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Thanks very much for that tip re tape adhesion, Joel.   I will certainly 
remember that.


Best regards.


Hazra C. Medica
Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters
Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
St. John's,  Antigua W.I.





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Test tape for adhesion to desired plastic bags or sheetings beforehand on a 
practice/Faux object throughout the whole process if materials(tape or bags)or 
cold treatment is new to you. Some tapes appear to stick well and can fail 
during the freeze/rest cycle. JTV






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Hi Todd

Regarding the thickness of the plastic wrap/bags, thicker garbage bags/sheet 
plastic is used mainly as it is stronger when handling and there is less 
moisture transmission through the film than with thinner films. As a rough guide
- disposable shopping bags/bin liners are about 1ml (you should double bag if 
using this type)
- ziplock-style sandwich bags are about 2ml (and some have a moisture barrier 
layer)
- 'tough' garbage/garden refuse bags may be 4-6ml. Many of these types of bags 
have reinforced layers that adds to their strength.

You're not creating an oxygen barrier so holes and tears aren't such an issue. 
If you find scrapes or tears just repair them with tape.

One more thing. When you're freezing a lot of items you may find water 
building-up under and between bags of frozen items. You can reduce this by 
using fans to keep air moving over the objects post freezing.

 Best wishes
Alex

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Hello Everyone,

Good thread- very informative.

Since the topic of freezing is going on here, I was wondering if I could pick 
your brains on a few things.  Hopefully this doesn't take us to far off topic.

1)  Does anyone here have strong opinions about the mil of plastic used in 
freezing treatments?  Is there a good "go to mil" that you like for freezing 
bags?  Is the only downside to a thinner mil its greater likelihood of tearing, 
or does it have a less desirable affect in other aspects of freezing too?

2)  How big of a problem is it, when loading a freezer, if a small scuff is 
made in the plastic?  If there is any hole/scuff in the plastic membrane (even 
a small fraction of an inch) does that compromise the object inside?  If the 
scuff is made only on the outer bag, and it is "double bagged", does that outer 
bag need to be taken off and "re-bagged"?

If anyone has opinions on these issues I would appreciate your feedback.

Thanks!
Todd Holmberg
Collection Maintenance Technician
Minneapolis Institute of Art

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Excellent idea, Joel!  Will save so me much time and tears.


Many thanks.


Hazra C. Medica
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Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
St. John's  Antigua W.I.



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   If you can make a small breech in the wrap without risking the pieces you 
could get the desiccant packets in without the hassle of unwrapping them and 
just tape up the slit.  JTV


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Joel,


Thank you for this bit of information.  I'll unwrap and re-wrap with the 
necessary precautions to avoid causing any unnecessary harm.


Best regards.


Hazra C. Medica
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Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
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If the RH inside the bags is 30% to 50% mold should not be an issue. Usually 
60% and above is where you run into problems. JTV






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Hi Alex,


Thank you so much for taking the time out to respond to my questions.  I've 
indeed been thinking freezing might be my best option.  I do have another 
question given your mention of the risk of  mould. How long is it safe to have 
these items bagged/wrapped tightly in plastic before we subject them to 
freezing?  I am trying my best to move rather quickly with this project but 
sometimes things go slow.


Best regards.


Hazra Medica

Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters
Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
St. John's, Antigua W.I.




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Hi Hazra
Bagging infested/suspect materials and freezing will be a great approach for 
treatment of the items.
Storing the (treated) materials up off the floor post freezing (i.e. on blocks 
or tables) will enable you to keep an eye out for further termite attack.
If you're dealing with drywood termites then even small wooden items can 
contain colonies, but again freezing would be a suitable approach (assuming 
items won't be damaged by freezing).
You could go down the low oxygen path for treatment, but it's much more 
expensive. One large bag could be used to treat the entire collection, or you 
could make several smaller bags. The small bag approach provides you with a 
stable storage environment for the collection while you work through 
cataloging, etc. Another major advantage is that you won't be facing a mould 
problem when it comes time to open the bags (a real risk when leaving items 
bagged in pe in poor conditions).
As for treatment of the termite infestation (if you're looking at staying in 
the same building) it will depend upon the species of termite that is 
attacking, building type and other factors. Assuming that they're subterranean 
termites then baiting may be suitable as it will allow you to destroy the 
colony, but you may also be able to locate and destroy the nest directly.
Best wishes
Alex

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Thank you so much for that note, Joel.  Admittedly, my main goal right now is  
attempting to ensure that we're left with something to preserve until I get the 
"go ahead" to have the items removed and the suitable expert brought in to 
safeguard this very valuable collection.


Hazra C. Medica
Advisor/Consultant on Cultural Matters
Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
St. John's,  Antigua W.I.




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Key note ..... wooden items would need to have a moisture content less than 19% 
in order for bag/isolation to be faster and a total guaranteed success 
depending of the extent and species of the termites. In case other are thinking 
this may work for all situations. JTV






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Hello,


Kindly permit me to intervene into this space to ask for safe, efficient, and 
cost-effective solutions for remedying severe termite infestations of artefacts 
and documentary heritage that are slated to become part of a special museum 
collection.  We have inherited a collection of artefacts and documents, many of 
which show clear signs of termite infestation or damage from said infestation 
and which are currently still being housed in a building suffering severe 
disrepair.  In an effort to curtail the spread of the infestation whilst the 
pieces are still in their unsuitable environment, I have taken to bagging 
(wrapping the wooden sculptures in plastic bags and sealing them with tape. I 
have also isolated documents in bags.  Removal from the premises is understood 
as a necessary step to ensure the rehabilitation of these items.  Also, 
freezing has been suggested as well as anoxia. Any advice you give will be 
greatly appreciated as this is very new territory for us.


Best regards


Hazra C. Medica
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Ministry of Trade, Industry, Commerce & Consumer Affairs
Ministry of Sports, Culture & National Festivals
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