Re: [GENERAL] [pgadmin-support] Help for Migration

2011-12-07 Thread Craig Ringer

On 12/07/2011 03:23 PM, mamatha_kagathi_c...@dell.com wrote:

Hi Alban/Craig,

Employeedetailinsert is procedure I have created in PostgreSQL. When I try to 
execute the procedure directly in Pgadmin as

EXEC Employeedetailinsert (parameters same as below) It works fine with desired 
result.
PgAdmin uses libpq directly. It must be translating the `EXEC' into 
something PostgreSQL can understand, because the psql command line tool 
(which also uses libpq) doesn't know what EXEC means.


regress= EXEC dummyfunction();
ERROR:  syntax error at or near EXEC
LINE 1: EXEC dummyfunction();


But When I call the procedure in Classic ASP I get the below error. I do not 
understand why the driver assumes it as function in the 1st place. I am using 
Postgres Native driver .
Since you're talking about ODBC, I presume you're *actually* using 
PsqlODBC as your database driver. AFAIK there's no such thing as 
postgres native driver.



In the call when I am using CALL as suggested below
OK, and since you're using ODBC the CALL gets translated to a 
server-side proc invocation, that should be no problem.


You're not actually showing your ODBC code or ODBC query string, which 
would be helpful.



Executing Procedure =EXEC employeedetailinsert( ' 
123','55','Mamatha','Chandrashekar','06','05','9886269427','mamatha...@dell.com','12/10/2010','','7','Active','','Bangalore','IG','906','Muralikrishna','TG-,'TPDBA01','TPDBA01-
 DBA Practice','No','','')
PostgreSQL Native Provider error '80040e14'

ERROR: function employeedetailinsert(unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, 
unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, 
unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, 
unknown, unknown, unknown) does not exist LINE 1: SELECT * FROM 
employeedetailinsert(' 123','55','Mamat... ^ HINT: No function matches the 
given name and argument types. You might need to add explicit type casts.


Possibilities:

- You might have defined your function with a double-quoted name, eg 
Employeedetailinsert. This makes it case sensitive. If that's the 
case, you'll see it with a capital letter when you run the \df command 
in psql or browse functions in PgAdmin;


- You've mucked up your argument list and it isn't really the same 
length as what you used in PgAdmin after all or you've got the wrong 
data types;


- You might need to specify explicit data types for your parameters in 
the ODBC call, eg 'Active'::text . Please show your function definition 
(at least the line with CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION ( parameters ) 
RETURNS ... on it) so we can see what you're actually trying to call;


- You've set a search_path that means that your ODBC call can't find the 
function because it's in a schema that isn't being searched;


-  ?


Please show your function definition.

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Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL DBA in SPAAAAAAAACE

2011-12-07 Thread Achilleas Mantzios
lol!

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 On 6 December 2011 20:33, Torello Querci tque...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  2011/12/6 Merlin Moncure mmonc...@gmail.com:
   On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Joe Miller joe.d.mil...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   You may have seen this, but RedGate software is sponsoring a contest
   to send a DBA on a suborbital space flight.
  
   And there is a PostgreSQL representativeme!
  
   https://www.dbainspace.com/finalists/joe-miller
  
   Voting is open for 7 days. Don't let one of those Oracle or SQL Server
   punks win :p
  
   so jealous -- I didn't make the cut.  Well, you'll have my vote.
  
 
  me too :)
 
 
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Re: [GENERAL] Installing different PostgreSQL versions in parallel

2011-12-07 Thread Rafael Ostertag
Hi John

On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 10:55:40PM -0800, John R Pierce wrote:
 afraid I don't have much int he way of suggestions for you to
 achieve that goal.I install my Solaris postgres builds into
 
 /opt/(mygroup)/pgsqlXX/
 
 and their lib and bins and everything are in that path, then when I
 launch them, I expressly put the data somewhere like
 /u02/pgsqlXX/data

Thanks a lot for your time and effort.

One solution for my problem would be adjusting the SONAME of the libraries. At
least for 8.X libraries, it is set to 'libname.so.M'. I could adjust the
SONAME to include the minor version as well, like 'libname.so.M.N', which
would allow me to have libraries of different pgsql versions in /opt/csw/lib
and make sure the binaries load the libraries matching their version.

However, there is a concern in the OpenCSW community against this approach.
Therefore, I would like to know what pgsql thinks about mixing binaries and
libraries of different pgsql versions. Maybe a developer could shed some light
on this issue?

Regards
Rafael 

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Re: [GENERAL] [pgadmin-support] Help for Migration

2011-12-07 Thread Alban Hertroys
On 7 December 2011 10:08,  mamatha_kagathi_c...@dell.com wrote:
 The procedure definition is
 CREATE OR REPLACE PROCEDURE

 -- So I am not calling a function but a procedure.

I don't think CREATE PROCEDURE is actually a valid command in
Postgres. The 9.0 documentation seems to confirm that
(http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/static/sql-commands.html).

In Postgres, procedures are void-returning functions - there's no
difference. It's just a naming convention.

Perhaps you're using some 3rd party code for MS-SQL compatibility? I
imagine CREATE PROCEDURE would then be a simple wrapper around CREATE
FUNCTION ... RETURNING void.

Heh, didn't know you could define DEFAULT argument values like that,
but it seems you can!
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[GENERAL] Queries take long long(10 sec.) time running

2011-12-07 Thread Andre Lopes
Hi,

I have a vertical database schema running with an webapp. I query
this database in the webapp rotating the vertical schema with a
view(something like a pivot view)

I know that this type of operation is very expensive, but I have the
webapp running with acceptable response time for 45 days(machine
uptime). Now the queries started to take much much time to execute. I
use a VPS with 512MB memory, and I have Apache2, PostgreSQL 8.4, MySQL
5. The webapp don't have high traffic, have about 700 visits per
day...

I've run top and I see that the server is using a lot of swap. I
have ordered the top to give me the used swap, the result is this:

[code]
top - 09:24:13 up 49 days, 22:44,  3 users,  load average: 0.15, 0.12, 0.13
Tasks: 123 total,   1 running, 122 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  0.0%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 96.6%id,  3.3%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Mem:500452k total,   490576k used, 9876k free,  496k buffers
Swap:   524284k total,   343664k used,   180620k free,32428k cached

  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  SWAP
COMMAND
 1881 mysql 20   0  929m 20240 S  0.0  0.4 142:11.73 927m
mysqld
11093 root  20   0  275m   560 S  0.0  0.0   0:03.46 275m
httpd
19462 apache20   0  280m 6704 1796 S  0.0  1.3   0:02.00 273m
httpd
11103 apache20   0  280m 7076 1740 S  0.0  1.4   0:07.80 273m
httpd
11095 apache20   0  280m 7544 1788 S  0.0  1.5   0:08.70 273m
httpd
11260 apache20   0  280m 7548 1548 S  0.0  1.5   0:07.94 273m
httpd
11096 apache20   0  280m 7728 1588 S  0.0  1.5   0:08.45 272m
httpd
12668 apache20   0  280m 7660 1804 S  0.0  1.5   0:07.30 272m
httpd
11293 apache20   0  280m 7908 1800 S  0.0  1.6   0:08.59 272m
httpd
12669 apache20   0  280m 8052 1860 S  0.0  1.6   0:07.69 272m
httpd
11099 apache20   0  277m 4940 1720 S  0.0  1.0   0:08.64 272m
httpd
11297 apache20   0  280m 8100 1884 S  0.0  1.6   0:09.00 272m
httpd
11102 apache20   0  280m 8148 1920 S  0.0  1.6   0:09.34 272m
httpd
12672 apache20   0  280m 8172 1804 S  0.0  1.6   0:07.62 272m
httpd
12113 apache20   0  280m 8220 1804 S  0.0  1.6   0:07.87 272m
httpd
11100 apache20   0  280m 8348 1940 S  0.0  1.7   0:08.70 272m
httpd
12663 apache20   0  278m 7188 1940 S  0.0  1.4   0:07.66 271m
httpd
19350 apache20   0  277m 6148 1936 S  0.0  1.2   0:07.23 271m
httpd
11105 apache20   0  280m 8928 2412 S  0.0  1.8   0:08.08 271m
httpd
 1960 apache20   0  279m 7912 2108 S  0.0  1.6   0:05.63 271m
httpd
11287 apache20   0  276m 5176 1936 S  0.0  1.0   0:08.66 271m
httpd
14813 apache20   0  280m 9336 2424 S  0.0  1.9   0:03.00 271m
httpd
 1729 root  20   0  242m  396  252 S  0.0  0.1   1:14.37 242m
rsyslogd
11304 postgres  20   0  218m  15m  15m S  0.0  3.2   1:34.18 203m
postmaster
11323 postgres  20   0  218m  20m  16m S  0.0  4.2   1:58.70 198m
postmaster
20149 postgres  20   0  218m  22m  17m S  0.0  4.7   0:07.35 195m
postmaster
11360 postgres  20   0  218m  23m  17m S  0.0  4.8   1:14.27 194m
postmaster
11604 postgres  20   0  218m  23m  17m S  0.0  4.9   1:43.92 194m
postmaster
11531 postgres  20   0  218m  24m  17m S  0.0  4.9   2:29.91 194m
postmaster
11628 postgres  20   0  218m  24m  17m S  0.0  5.0   2:46.56 194m
postmaster
11437 postgres  20   0  218m  24m  17m S  0.0  4.9   1:38.11 194m
postmaster
28295 postgres  20   0  188m 3364 2920 S  0.0  0.7   0:00.09 184m
postmaster
13465 postgres  20   0  184m  140   96 S  0.0  0.0  15:07.25 183m
postmaster
13466 postgres  20   0  184m  596  300 S  0.0  0.1   6:14.63 183m
postmaster
13460 postgres  20   0  184m  340  220 S  0.0  0.1   5:14.39 183m
postmaster
13555 postgres  20   0  218m  35m  17m S  0.0  7.3   1:28.89 183m
postmaster
13464 postgres  20   0  184m 3332 3168 S  0.3  0.7  16:38.80 180m
postmaster
11761 postgres  20   0  218m  37m  17m S  0.0  7.7   1:41.28 180m
postmaster
11560 postgres  20   0  218m  38m  17m S  0.0  7.8   1:37.13 180m
postmaster
12914 postgres  20   0  218m  39m  17m S  0.0  8.1   1:49.34 179m
postmaster
11305 postgres  20   0  202m  24m  17m S  0.0  5.0   1:31.30 178m
postmaster
29837 postgres  20   0  188m  10m 8332 S  0.0  2.1   0:01.42 178m
postmaster
12666 postgres  20   0  218m  40m  17m S  0.0  8.4   0:59.64 177m
postmaster
19639 postgres  20   0  216m  41m  17m S  0.0  8.5   1:38.68 175m
postmaster
11373 postgres  20   0  218m  44m  18m S  0.0  9.2   1:39.24 173m
postmaster
12196 postgres  20   0  195m  23m  16m S  0.0  4.8   1:15.28 172m
postmaster
 2313 postgres  20   0  202m  31m  18m S  0.0  6.4   1:09.09 171m
postmaster
14947 postgres  20   0  218m  47m  18m S  0.0  9.7   0:30.29 170m
postmaster
[/code]

This top result is ordered by swap.

This is enough information for some clues on how to increase the
response time in queries?


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Re: [GENERAL] Queries take long long(10 sec.) time running

2011-12-07 Thread Tomas Vondra
On 7 Prosinec 2011, 10:27, Andre Lopes wrote:
 Hi,

 I have a vertical database schema running with an webapp. I query
 this database in the webapp rotating the vertical schema with a
 view(something like a pivot view)

 I know that this type of operation is very expensive, but I have the
 webapp running with acceptable response time for 45 days(machine
 uptime). Now the queries started to take much much time to execute. I
 use a VPS with 512MB memory, and I have Apache2, PostgreSQL 8.4, MySQL
 5. The webapp don't have high traffic, have about 700 visits per
 day...

 I've run top and I see that the server is using a lot of swap. I
 have ordered the top to give me the used swap, the result is this:

The swap is probably the reason why it's so slow. Anyway top output is
rather useless in this case, especially when ordered by SWAP. We have no
clue which of the processes is the one running the query

Post vmstat output, e.g. 10 lines of vmstat 1 when the query is running.

Get rid of the swap and read this:
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Slow_Query_Questions

You should post at least EXPLAIN ANALYZE of the query and info about the
settings of the database (shared buffers etc.).

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Re: [GENERAL] Queries take long long(10 sec.) time running

2011-12-07 Thread John R Pierce

On 12/07/11 1:27 AM, Andre Lopes wrote:

This is enough information for some clues on how to increase the
response time in queries?


no.

to optimize queries, you generally need to know what the queries are, 
what the relations they are using look like, and get the output of 
`explain analyze your query;`


some random comments in passing...

 * whats mysql got to do with this?

 * a server running efficiently should be using zero swap.   the fact
   that you have 340MB of swap used implies you need at least twice as
   much physical memory as you have.

 * VPS?  as in virtual server?  so your disk IO is virtualized too?   
   this is usually bad news for getting decent database performance.




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Re: [GENERAL] [pgadmin-support] Help for Migration

2011-12-07 Thread Craig Ringer

On 12/07/2011 05:44 PM, mamatha_kagathi_c...@dell.com wrote:

I am using postgres 9.0.4


I don't think you are, actually, I think you're using EnterpriseDB 
Postgres Plus Advanced Server.


Please past the output of the SELECT version(); command.

Here's what happens if you try CREATE PROCEDURE on PostgreSQL:

$ psql regress
psql (9.1.1)
Type help for help.

regress= select version();
   version
-
 PostgreSQL 9.1.1 on x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, compiled by gcc (GCC) 
4.6.1 20110824 (Red Hat 4.6.1-8), 64-bit

(1 row)

regress= CREATE OR REPLACE PROCEDURE test () RETURNS void AS $$
regress$ BEGIN
regress$   RETURN;
regress$ END;
regress$ $$ LANGUAGE 'plpgsql';
ERROR:  syntax error at or near PROCEDURE
LINE 1: CREATE OR REPLACE PROCEDURE test () RETURNS void AS $$
  ^



I can actually use EXEC in psql which seem to be throwing some error in Craig's 
case.

That's because it seems you're not actually using PostgreSQL.

You need to contact EnterpriseDB technical support for assistance if you 
are using EnterpriseDB. If it's another product, please specify.


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Re: [GENERAL] Queries take long long(10 sec.) time running

2011-12-07 Thread Andre Lopes
Thanks for the replies.

I've done a vmstat 1, here is the result:

 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   in   cs us sy id wa st
 1  1 342728  21384264  34940   960  1428 0  616  275  1
0 92  7  0
 0  0 342728  15032312  4000800  5136 0  821  561  0
0 89 10  0
 0  0 342728  15048312  4007200 0 0   86   51  0
0 100  0  0
 0  0 342728  15792336  4027200   256 0  561  201  0
0 94  5  0
 0  0 342728  15808344  4030000 036   92   60  0
0 100  0  0
 0  0 342728  15800344  4030400 0 0  366  171  0
0 100  0  0
 0  0 342728  15800344  4030400 0 0   67   44  0
0 100  0  0
 0  0 342728  15800344  4030400 0 0  351  163  0
0 100  0  0
 0  0 342728  15800344  4030400 0 0   85   52  0
0 100  0  0
 0  1 342728  14808344  4087600   52840  459  200  0
0 96  4  0
 0  1 342728  14596356  41408   320   63688  217   80  0
0 95  5  0
 1  1 340184  10876356  41428 41440  4144 0 1155  715  0
0 82 17  0
 0  3 333176   5460316  38484 10312   28 1033632 2158 1474  3
1 75 21  0
 0  2 329480   6192148  31452 7688 1764  8000  1812 2140 1311  2
1 74 23  0
 1  1 329112   6452136  30836 4284 2268  5828  2296 1638  799  6
0 75 19  0
 0  3 328832   5972120  30356 3572 2312  5396  2316 1388  744  4
0 72 24  0
 1  5 331156   5204116  30656  764 2988  2136  3036  552  391  0
0 68 32  0
 1  0 329708   6524104  30100 2176  188  3256   192 1586  517  8
0 77 14  0
 0  1 330748   6580104  30840 1244 1764  5112  1764 1270  509  5
0 70 25  0
 1  1 330584   5888124  31204 1160 1180  2936  1184 1110  381  7
0 76 17  0
 1  1 332684   5660200  34564  936 2928 14252  3452 2812 1191  9
1 61 28  0
 1  2 332500   5916220  34216  860  580  2084  1160 1151  542  4
0 66 30  0
 0  2 332236   5596228  33712 1636 1088  2444  1132 1665  475 10
1 64 25  0
 1  1 332552   6232152  32580 1180 1192  4948  1192 1386  504  6
0 61 32  0
 1  0 332748   6496192  34380   32  204  2128   204 1804  363 13
0 78  9  0
 0  4 334712   6056244  34644  356 2072  4836  2168 1752  542  8
1 71 21  0
 0  2 335060   5792260  35132  100  372  1284   372  506  212  0
0 76 24  0
 1  0 335492   6572280  36352   96  480  2516   576  769  325  1
0 76 23  0
 0  0 335492   6568280  3643200 0 0  264  120  0
0 100  0  0

Seems my problem is SWAP/IO... I can only solve this putting more RAM
on the machine or it is possible to put down this values only
adjusting some settings?

Best Regards,




On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:52 AM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:
 On 12/07/11 1:27 AM, Andre Lopes wrote:

 This is enough information for some clues on how to increase the
 response time in queries?


 no.

 to optimize queries, you generally need to know what the queries are, what
 the relations they are using look like, and get the output of `explain
 analyze your query;`

 some random comments in passing...

  * whats mysql got to do with this?

  * a server running efficiently should be using zero swap.   the fact
   that you have 340MB of swap used implies you need at least twice as
   much physical memory as you have.

  * VPS?  as in virtual server?  so your disk IO is virtualized too?
  this is usually bad news for getting decent database performance.



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Re: [GENERAL] Queries take long long(10 sec.) time running

2011-12-07 Thread Tomas Vondra
On 7 Prosinec 2011, 11:28, Andre Lopes wrote:
 Thanks for the replies.

 Seems my problem is SWAP/IO... I can only solve this putting more RAM
 on the machine or it is possible to put down this values only
 adjusting some settings?

You can set PostgreSQL, MySQL etc. to use less memory - so that it fits
into the RAM. What are the basic config parameters, i.e. shared_buffers,
work_mem etc.?

The question is why it worked fine for 45 days and then it started to slow
down. My bet is that the database grew for some reason (users entering
data, bloat ...). This often triggers sudden performance degradation.

Tomas


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Re: [GENERAL] [pgadmin-support] Help for Migration

2011-12-07 Thread Craig Ringer

On 12/07/2011 06:57 PM, mamatha_kagathi_c...@dell.com wrote:

HI Craig,

Yes I am using EnterpriseDB Postgres Plus Advanced Server.
But does that mean Postgres 9.0 version from Postgres community and Postgres9.0 
version from EnterpriseDB works differently?
Yes! They're different things. EnterpriseDB adds an Oracle compatibility 
layer, stored procedures, and all sorts of other little extras. If they 
were the same, why would people pay for EnterpriseDB Advanced Server? 
They might pay for support, but not an up-front license fee for a 
product where they could download it for free...


You still haven't posted select version(). That is one of the first 
items in this page:


http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Guide_to_reporting_problems

... which I strongly suggest that you read, because following it 
would've saved all of us a lot of hassle and confusion.



And Postgres9.0 from community has a limitation for procedures?

Yes!

PostgreSQL (as of version 9.1 at least) has NO support for stored 
procedures. It supports user-defined stored functions in a variety of 
languages, but no stand-alone procedures. It emulates stored procedures 
by invoking a stored function stand-alone as, eg:


SELECT somefuncname();

but those functions can't do things like BEGIN/COMMIT, etc.


I can also get the same result if I execute it in pgadmin (version downloaded 
from postgres community) which is on a different client machine but connected 
to the server on enterpriseDB version
As EXEC proc.

If you're connected to EnterpriseDB, I'd expect that.

If you're connected to PostgreSQL, maybe PgAdmin is translating EXEC 
into a SELECT ?


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[GENERAL] is there example of update skript?

2011-12-07 Thread Pavel Stehule
Hello

I am playing with extensions implemented in plpgsql. I am checking update.

I have a simple extension

file gdlib--1.1.sql
CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION gdlib_version()
RETURNS numeric AS $$
  SELECT 1.1;
$$ LANGUAGE sql;

CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION hello(text)
RETURNS text AS $$
  SELECT 'Hello, ' || $1 || ' from gdlib ' || gdlib_version();
$$ LANGUAGE sql;

file gdlib--1.0.sql
CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION gdlib_version()
RETURNS numeric AS $$
  SELECT 1.0;
$$ LANGUAGE sql;

CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION hello(text)
RETURNS text AS $$
  SELECT 'Hello, ' || $1 || ' from gdlib ' || gdlib_version();
$$ LANGUAGE sql;

I created a empty update files (it's probably wrong)

postgres=# SELECT * FROM pg_extension_update_paths('gdlib');
 source | target |   path
++--
 1.0| 1.1| 1.0--1.1
 1.1| 1.0| 1.1--1.0
(2 rows)

Issue

After ALTER EXTENSION gdlib UPDATE TO '1.1'

I have 1.0 function still?

I expected a refresh 1.1 sql script, but it was newer loaded

What are correct steps?

Regards

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Re: [GENERAL] [pgadmin-support] Help for Migration

2011-12-07 Thread Guillaume Lelarge
On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 21:23 +0800, Craig Ringer wrote:
 On 12/07/2011 06:57 PM, mamatha_kagathi_c...@dell.com wrote:
 [...]
  I can also get the same result if I execute it in pgadmin (version 
  downloaded from postgres community) which is on a different client machine 
  but connected to the server on enterpriseDB version
  As EXEC proc.
 If you're connected to EnterpriseDB, I'd expect that.
 
 If you're connected to PostgreSQL, maybe PgAdmin is translating EXEC 
 into a SELECT ?
 

pgAdmin doesn't translate queries executed by the user. If EXEC works on
EDB AS, then pgadmin will fire it with success. If it doesn't, pgadmin
will fire it, and the result will be a failure.


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Re: [GENERAL] [pgadmin-support] Help for Migration

2011-12-07 Thread Guillaume Lelarge
On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 14:30 +0100, Guillaume Lelarge wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 21:23 +0800, Craig Ringer wrote:
  On 12/07/2011 06:57 PM, mamatha_kagathi_c...@dell.com wrote:
  [...]
   I can also get the same result if I execute it in pgadmin (version 
   downloaded from postgres community) which is on a different client 
   machine but connected to the server on enterpriseDB version
   As EXEC proc.
  If you're connected to EnterpriseDB, I'd expect that.
  
  If you're connected to PostgreSQL, maybe PgAdmin is translating EXEC 
  into a SELECT ?
  
 
 pgAdmin doesn't translate queries executed by the user. If EXEC works on
 EDB AS, then pgadmin will fire it with success. If it doesn't, pgadmin
 will fire it, and the result will be a failure.
 

BTW, pgAdmin allows to open the query tool with an EXEC script when the
user has selected a procedure (EDB AS object). So I guess EDB AS
supports the EXEC statement :)


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[GENERAL] postgres 9.0.4 Streaming relate question ..

2011-12-07 Thread akp geek
Hi All -

Need some help. We have been using postgres 9.0.4 for our
production environment for some time. Today we are going to restart the
Solaris servers.

We have streaming on . My question is how to handle the streaming
when we start the database on the servers.

 Can you please give me some steps. I have actually used the
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Streaming_Replication to set up the
replication.

Appreciate your help

Regards


[GENERAL] Convert / Migrate From Oracle 11gR2 To PostgreSQL ? On CentOS 5.7 x86_64

2011-12-07 Thread Gene Poole
This has to do with my personal home environment.

I'm running Oracle 11gR2 DBMS with 4 instances using a single home 
directory.  For each of the instances I'm using LVM file systems with 10 
logical volumes defined (/dbmsu00 used for the install and /dbmsu01 - u09 
for the required files created using the DBCA utility). A single LISTENER 
created using the NETCA utility.

I chose Oracle because back in the dark ages I was a Oracle DBA when 
Oracle 7.3 was current. I've been told that it's OK to download and use 
the Oracle DBMS in a noncommercial environment for a limited time - well 
it's reached the end of that time.  I can't use the free Oracle XE because 
the database size limitations (4 GB).

Based upon what I've read and seen, the best choice for me is PostgreSQL 
Community Edition. What I need is advice, documentation, and information 
on how to take the above and move it from Oracle to PostgreSQL along with 
updating my JBoss 6.0 environment so it has access to the PostgreSQL 
databases/instances?  Can someone supply me with some direction?
 
Thanks,
Gene Poole

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Re: [GENERAL] Convert / Migrate From Oracle 11gR2 To PostgreSQL ? On CentOS 5.7 x86_64

2011-12-07 Thread Tomas Vondra
On 7 Prosinec 2011, 15:13, Gene Poole wrote:
 This has to do with my personal home environment.

 I'm running Oracle 11gR2 DBMS with 4 instances using a single home
 directory.  For each of the instances I'm using LVM file systems with 10
 logical volumes defined (/dbmsu00 used for the install and /dbmsu01 - u09
 for the required files created using the DBCA utility). A single LISTENER
 created using the NETCA utility.

Not sure why you're doing this, but you can do something similar with
PostgreSQL. Running four clusters using the same set of binaries is not a
big deal.

 I chose Oracle because back in the dark ages I was a Oracle DBA when
 Oracle 7.3 was current. I've been told that it's OK to download and use
 the Oracle DBMS in a noncommercial environment for a limited time - well
 it's reached the end of that time.  I can't use the free Oracle XE because
 the database size limitations (4 GB).

Although this is a PostgreSQL list, I'll point out the limit is 11GB with
the current Oracle XE version (11g).

 Based upon what I've read and seen, the best choice for me is PostgreSQL
 Community Edition. What I need is advice, documentation, and information
 on how to take the above and move it from Oracle to PostgreSQL along with
 updating my JBoss 6.0 environment so it has access to the PostgreSQL
 databases/instances?  Can someone supply me with some direction?

PostgreSQL Community Edition? What is that? Do you mean sources that are
available for download from postgresql.org?

Switching the database in the AS is not a big deal - there's usually a
connection pool, so you need to add PostgreSQL JDBC driver and change the
config.

Porting the application is usually much harder, especially if you use
features that are available on Oracle only (or if you're hurt by some
Oracle-ism). If you're using native SQL, PL/SQL, etc. you'll have to
rewrite that. The complexity really depends on how your application is
coded, it's impossible to judge this.

Anyway, the simplest thing you can do is to give it a try. Install
PostgreSQL on a development environment and try to run the application.
It'll probably fail for some reason - fix the issue and repeat.

There are tools to make the switch easier - e.g. orafce package that
provides some compatibility features.

Tomas


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[GENERAL] making \pset pager off the default

2011-12-07 Thread Gauthier, Dave
Hi:

How can I make pager off the default when running psql ?

v8.3.4 and v9.0.1 on linux.


Re: [GENERAL] making \pset pager off the default

2011-12-07 Thread Adrian Klaver
On Wednesday, December 07, 2011 6:45:12 am Gauthier, Dave wrote:
 Hi:
 
 How can I make pager off the default when running psql ?
 
 v8.3.4 and v9.0.1 on linux.

Use a psqlrc file and add  \pset pager off:

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/interactive/app-psql.html


Files

Unless it is passed an -X or -c option, psql attempts to read and execute 
commands from the system-wide psqlrc file and the user's ~/.psqlrc file before 
starting up. (On Windows, the user's startup file is named 
%APPDATA%\postgresql\psqlrc.conf.) See PREFIX/share/psqlrc.sample for 
information on setting up the system-wide file. It could be used to set up the 
client or the server to taste (using the \set and SET commands).

Both the system-wide psqlrc file and the user's ~/.psqlrc file can be made 
version-specific by appending a dash and the PostgreSQL release number, for 
example ~/.psqlrc-9.0.6. A matching version-specific file will be read in 
preference to a non-version-specific file.

The command-line history is stored in the file ~/.psql_history, or 
%APPDATA%\postgresql\psql_history on Windows.
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[GENERAL] Expanding a VARCHAR on a large table that has inherited subtables ...

2011-12-07 Thread Paulo Correia

Hello,

I have a table that has several inherited sub-tables with a partition 
constraint restriction. All the sub-tables have the same structure and 
they are used to distribute load, each sub-table has typically more than 
6million records.


When I try to issue a

   ALTER TABLEtablename  ALTER COLUMNcolumnname  TYPE VARCHAR(16);

I receive a

   ERROR:  constraint must be added to child tables too


The main table, which has no data in it, has a constraint:

   constraintname CHECK (columnname  IS NULL OR substring(columnname::text, 
'^[a-zA-Z0-9_,. -]*$'::text) IS NOT NULL AND substring(

   columnname::text, '^[a-zA-Z0-9_,. -]*$'::text) =columnname::text)


This same constraint is on the subtables since they are created with:

   CREATE TABLEsubtablename  (LIKEtablename  INCLUDING ALL);

   ALTER TABLEsubtablename  INHERITtablename;


My question is:

1. Should I create a PL/PGSQL script to:
1. go to each sub-table
1. drop constraint from sub-table
2. remove inheritance of sub-table
3. alter column on sub-table
4. add constraint again to sub-table
2. drop constraint from main table
3. alter column on main table
4. add constraint to main table
5. go to each of previous sub-tables
1. set inheritance as before of sub-table to main table
2. drop the constraint on table and subtables, apply the alter table
   alter column and add the constraint again
3. any other way?

Best regards,
Paulo Correia




Re: [GENERAL] making \pset pager off the default

2011-12-07 Thread Gauthier, Dave
Like a charm.  Thanks!


-Original Message-
From: Adrian Klaver [mailto:adrian.kla...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:57 AM
To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Cc: Gauthier, Dave
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] making \pset pager off the default

On Wednesday, December 07, 2011 6:45:12 am Gauthier, Dave wrote:
 Hi:
 
 How can I make pager off the default when running psql ?
 
 v8.3.4 and v9.0.1 on linux.

Use a psqlrc file and add  \pset pager off:

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/interactive/app-psql.html


Files

Unless it is passed an -X or -c option, psql attempts to read and execute 
commands from the system-wide psqlrc file and the user's ~/.psqlrc file before 
starting up. (On Windows, the user's startup file is named 
%APPDATA%\postgresql\psqlrc.conf.) See PREFIX/share/psqlrc.sample for 
information on setting up the system-wide file. It could be used to set up the 
client or the server to taste (using the \set and SET commands).

Both the system-wide psqlrc file and the user's ~/.psqlrc file can be made 
version-specific by appending a dash and the PostgreSQL release number, for 
example ~/.psqlrc-9.0.6. A matching version-specific file will be read in 
preference to a non-version-specific file.

The command-line history is stored in the file ~/.psql_history, or 
%APPDATA%\postgresql\psql_history on Windows.
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Re: [GENERAL] is there example of update skript?

2011-12-07 Thread Cédric Villemain
Le 7 décembre 2011 14:26, Pavel Stehule pavel.steh...@gmail.com a écrit :
 Hello

 I am playing with extensions implemented in plpgsql. I am checking update.

 I have a simple extension

 file gdlib--1.1.sql
 CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION gdlib_version()
 RETURNS numeric AS $$
  SELECT 1.1;
 $$ LANGUAGE sql;

 CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION hello(text)
 RETURNS text AS $$
  SELECT 'Hello, ' || $1 || ' from gdlib ' || gdlib_version();
 $$ LANGUAGE sql;

 file gdlib--1.0.sql
 CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION gdlib_version()
 RETURNS numeric AS $$
  SELECT 1.0;
 $$ LANGUAGE sql;

 CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION hello(text)
 RETURNS text AS $$
  SELECT 'Hello, ' || $1 || ' from gdlib ' || gdlib_version();
 $$ LANGUAGE sql;

 I created a empty update files (it's probably wrong)

 postgres=# SELECT * FROM pg_extension_update_paths('gdlib');
  source | target |   path
 ++--
  1.0    | 1.1    | 1.0--1.1
  1.1    | 1.0    | 1.1--1.0
 (2 rows)

 Issue

 After ALTER EXTENSION gdlib UPDATE TO '1.1'

 I have 1.0 function still?

in the path, so you can run 1.1-1.0 if you provided a script for that.


 I expected a refresh 1.1 sql script, but it was newer loaded

 What are correct steps?

upgrade the schema/function from 1.0 to 1.1 in your
extension--last--new.sql file.
A blank file can be provided to just update the version number of the extension.

.so are *not* versionned so once you've install the new 1.1, the old
sql will access to it.
If you change sql API for your C extension, you need to run ALTER EXT
UPDATE, else it is not required. (expect to increase version number)



 Regards

 Pavel Stehule

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Re: [GENERAL] making \pset pager off the default

2011-12-07 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Gauthier, Dave dave.gauth...@intel.com wrote:
 Hi:



 How can I make pager off the default when running psql ?



 v8.3.4 and v9.0.1 on linux.

I'm sure there are more elegant ways, but:

postgres@ironton:~ export PAGER=/bin/cat
postgres@ironton:~ psql
postgres=# select * from a;
(output runs right off the bottom of the page...)

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[GENERAL] dblink performance

2011-12-07 Thread Alex Bible
Hello All,

I'm currently on a development team utilizing PostgreSQL and we are
looking into the possibility of using dblink to reference an external
database (read only). Our system administrator and DBA were concerned
about the performance impact that cross-database queries would have on a
production application. Are there any known performance issues or
anything of the like that I would need to know before pushing this issue
further? I have been using PostgreSQL for the past couple months but
this is my first time using dblink. I really just need an opinion from
someone who has used this technology before. Thanks!

 

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Re: [GENERAL] [pgadmin-support] Help for Migration

2011-12-07 Thread Mamatha_Kagathi_Chan
Hi Craig,

The procedure definition is
CREATE OR REPLACE PROCEDURE employeedetailinsert(dellbadgeid  character varying 
DEFAULT NULL::character varying, empid  character varying DEFAULT 
NULL::character varying, firstname  character varying DEFAULT NULL::character 
varying, lastname  character varying DEFAULT NULL::character varying, dob_day  
character varying DEFAULT NULL::character varying, dob_month  character varying 
DEFAULT NULL::character varying, contactno  character varying DEFAULT 
NULL::character varying, email  character varying DEFAULT NULL::character 
varying, hiredate  character varying DEFAULT NULL::character varying, 
rehiredate  character varying DEFAULT NULL::character varying, totalexp  
character varying DEFAULT NULL::character varying, statuscd  character varying 
DEFAULT NULL::character varying, costcenter  character varying DEFAULT 
NULL::character varying, location  character varying DEFAULT NULL::character 
varying, grade  character varying DEFAULT NULL::character varying, hrmgrid  
character varying DEFAULT NULL::character varying, hrorgmgr  character varying 
DEFAULT NULL::character varying, hrdepartment  character varying DEFAULT 
NULL::character varying, financedepartment  character varying DEFAULT 
NULL::character varying, financedepartmentdescription  character varying 
DEFAULT NULL::character varying, passport  character varying DEFAULT 
NULL::character varying, passvalidfrom  character varying DEFAULT 
NULL::character varying, passvalidupto  character varying DEFAULT 
NULL::character varying) AS...

-- So I am not calling a function but a procedure.

The ODBC string is:
conn.Open Provider=PGNP.1;Password=PGDBTest5;Persist Security Info=True;User 
ID=enterprisedb;Initial Catalog=edb;Data 
Source=ip_address;PORT=5444;SSL=allow;  

here IP address is replaced for discretion.

I have all reasons to believe that this connection string works as I am able to 
connect to other pages where the database-ASP page interaction is directly 
using select, insert and update statements rather than calling procedures.

Finally I have copy-pasted the exec proc form the error in Pgadmin and 
executed the same to get desirable results. So I doubt if the parameters have 
anything to do with this.

Hope I have provided all the information. Please let me know if I am still lost 
somewhere.

Thanks,
Mamatha

-Original Message-
From: Craig Ringer [mailto:ring...@ringerc.id.au] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 1:48 PM
To: Chan, Mamatha Kagathi
Cc: haram...@gmail.com; pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] [pgadmin-support] Help for Migration

On 12/07/2011 03:23 PM, mamatha_kagathi_c...@dell.com wrote:
 Hi Alban/Craig,

 Employeedetailinsert is procedure I have created in PostgreSQL. When I 
 try to execute the procedure directly in Pgadmin as

 EXEC Employeedetailinsert (parameters same as below) It works fine with 
 desired result.
PgAdmin uses libpq directly. It must be translating the `EXEC' into something 
PostgreSQL can understand, because the psql command line tool (which also uses 
libpq) doesn't know what EXEC means.

regress= EXEC dummyfunction();
ERROR:  syntax error at or near EXEC
LINE 1: EXEC dummyfunction();

 But When I call the procedure in Classic ASP I get the below error. I do not 
 understand why the driver assumes it as function in the 1st place. I am using 
 Postgres Native driver .
Since you're talking about ODBC, I presume you're *actually* using PsqlODBC as 
your database driver. AFAIK there's no such thing as postgres native driver.

 In the call when I am using CALL as suggested below
OK, and since you're using ODBC the CALL gets translated to a server-side proc 
invocation, that should be no problem.

You're not actually showing your ODBC code or ODBC query string, which would be 
helpful.

 Executing Procedure =EXEC employeedetailinsert( ' 
 123','55','Mamatha','Chandrashekar','06','05','9886269427','mamatha...@dell.com','12/10/2010','','7','Active','','Bangalore','IG','906','Muralikrishna','TG-,'TPDBA01','TPDBA01-
  DBA Practice','No','','') PostgreSQL Native Provider error '80040e14'

 ERROR: function employeedetailinsert(unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, 
 unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, 
 unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, 
 unknown, unknown, unknown) does not exist LINE 1: SELECT * FROM 
 employeedetailinsert(' 123','55','Mamat... ^ HINT: No function matches the 
 given name and argument types. You might need to add explicit type casts.

Possibilities:

- You might have defined your function with a double-quoted name, eg 
Employeedetailinsert. This makes it case sensitive. If that's the case, 
you'll see it with a capital letter when you run the \df command in psql or 
browse functions in PgAdmin;

- You've mucked up your argument list and it isn't really the same length as 
what you used in PgAdmin after all or you've got the wrong data types;

- You might need 

Re: [GENERAL] [pgadmin-support] Help for Migration

2011-12-07 Thread Mamatha_Kagathi_Chan
I am using postgres 9.0.4 . I can actually use EXEC in psql which seem to be 
throwing some error in Craig's case. Also I am able to create procedure and 
execute them in pgadmin and psql. This piece of code was migrated from Oracle 
database (MS-SQL to Oracle then Oracle to Postgres). Nevertheless I am able to 
create independently a procedure also. Only In the ASP environmnet I am facing 
issue.

Below is the piece of code which I executed in Psql.

edb=# EXEC employeedetailinsert( '529','55','Mamatha','Chandrashekar','0
9','03','9677756894','mamatha...@dell.com','12/10/2010','','7','Active','','Bang
alore','IG','206','Muralikrishna','TG-DBA','TPDB','TPDB','No','','');

EDB-SPL Procedure successfully completed

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From: Alban Hertroys [mailto:haram...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 2:56 PM
To: Chan, Mamatha Kagathi
Cc: ring...@ringerc.id.au; pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] [pgadmin-support] Help for Migration

On 7 December 2011 10:08,  mamatha_kagathi_c...@dell.com wrote:
 The procedure definition is
 CREATE OR REPLACE PROCEDURE

 -- So I am not calling a function but a procedure.

I don't think CREATE PROCEDURE is actually a valid command in Postgres. The 9.0 
documentation seems to confirm that 
(http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/static/sql-commands.html).

In Postgres, procedures are void-returning functions - there's no difference. 
It's just a naming convention.

Perhaps you're using some 3rd party code for MS-SQL compatibility? I imagine 
CREATE PROCEDURE would then be a simple wrapper around CREATE FUNCTION ... 
RETURNING void.

Heh, didn't know you could define DEFAULT argument values like that, but it 
seems you can!
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Re: [GENERAL] [pgadmin-support] Help for Migration

2011-12-07 Thread Mamatha_Kagathi_Chan
HI Craig,

Yes I am using EnterpriseDB Postgres Plus Advanced Server.
But does that mean Postgres 9.0 version from Postgres community and Postgres9.0 
version from EnterpriseDB works differently?
And Postgres9.0 from community has a limitation for procedures?

I actually changed the stored procedure to Function and now I can get the 
desired result from psql, pgadmin and ASP consistently. 

I can also get the same result if I execute it in pgadmin (version downloaded 
from postgres community) which is on a different client machine but connected 
to the server on enterpriseDB version
As EXEC proc.

Please let me know your thoughts so that I can understand the difference 
between the versions.

Thanks,
Mamatha

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From: Craig Ringer [mailto:ring...@ringerc.id.au] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 3:37 PM
To: Chan, Mamatha Kagathi
Cc: haram...@gmail.com; pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] [pgadmin-support] Help for Migration

On 12/07/2011 05:44 PM, mamatha_kagathi_c...@dell.com wrote:
 I am using postgres 9.0.4

I don't think you are, actually, I think you're using EnterpriseDB Postgres 
Plus Advanced Server.

Please past the output of the SELECT version(); command.

Here's what happens if you try CREATE PROCEDURE on PostgreSQL:

$ psql regress
psql (9.1.1)
Type help for help.

regress= select version();
version
-
  PostgreSQL 9.1.1 on x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, compiled by gcc (GCC)
4.6.1 20110824 (Red Hat 4.6.1-8), 64-bit
(1 row)

regress= CREATE OR REPLACE PROCEDURE test () RETURNS void AS $$ regress$ BEGIN
regress$   RETURN;
regress$ END;
regress$ $$ LANGUAGE 'plpgsql';
ERROR:  syntax error at or near PROCEDURE
LINE 1: CREATE OR REPLACE PROCEDURE test () RETURNS void AS $$
   ^


 I can actually use EXEC in psql which seem to be throwing some error in 
 Craig's case.
That's because it seems you're not actually using PostgreSQL.

You need to contact EnterpriseDB technical support for assistance if you are 
using EnterpriseDB. If it's another product, please specify.

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[GENERAL] Slow COMMIT statements

2011-12-07 Thread Felix Feinhals
Hello List,
 
2011-12-07 11:52:52 CET 8075 xxx [local]LOG:  duration: 1168.953 ms
statement: COMMIT
2011-12-07 11:52:52 CET 7327 xxx [local]LOG:  duration: 1116.119 ms
statement: COMMIT
2011-12-07 11:52:52 CET 31727 xxx  [local]LOG:  duration: 1131.044 ms
statement: COMMIT
2011-12-07 11:52:52 CET 25077 xxx [local]LOG:  duration: 1064.599 ms
statement: COMMIT
 
these messages show up in the postgresql logs at irregular intervals. We
got no slow queries before or after these statements. Checkpoint logging
is enabled also but these don't show up either, well they do but minutes
later ;).
I would like to debug these slow COMMITs but don't know what is causing
them.
The server itself is idling most of the time... with a load avg around
1-2(with 64 cores) and iowait around 0.5 - 1%.
 
Notable changes from default config:
 
log_min_duration_statement = 500
log_checkpoints = on
checkpoint_segments = 40

Regards,
 
Felix


[GENERAL] Fwd: postgres 9.0.4 Streaming related question ..

2011-12-07 Thread akp geek
Small Clarification. I have gone through the documentation. I did not find
any thing related to start ans stop replication after the replication is
setup

1. If I shutdown the primary
2. Shutdown the slave
3. start Primary
4. start slave

Will this automatically catch up the streaming. Can you please comment?

Regards

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Subject: postgres 9.0.4 Streaming relate question ..
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Hi All -

Need some help. We have been using postgres 9.0.4 for our
production environment for some time. Today we are going to restart the
Solaris servers.

We have streaming on . My question is how to handle the streaming
when we start the database on the servers.

 Can you please give me some steps. I have actually used the
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Streaming_Replication to set up the
replication.

Appreciate your help

Regards


Re: [GENERAL] Fwd: postgres 9.0.4 Streaming related question ..

2011-12-07 Thread Ben Chobot

On Dec 7, 2011, at 8:45 AM, akp geek wrote:

 Small Clarification. I have gone through the documentation. I did not find 
 any thing related to start ans stop replication after the replication is setup
 
 1. If I shutdown the primary
 2. Shutdown the slave
 3. start Primary
 4. start slave
 
 Will this automatically catch up the streaming. Can you please comment?

So long as you leave your recovery.conf file in place, and don't loose any 
needed wal files between steps 3 and 4 (or can recover them from an archive), 
then the answer is yes.
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[GENERAL] Tables creation date and time

2011-12-07 Thread Prashant Bharucha
Hello All

Could you please help me to find out of tables creation date and time in 
database ?

Thanks
P Bharucha


Re: [GENERAL] dblink performance

2011-12-07 Thread Merlin Moncure
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Alex Bible alex.bi...@ctg.com wrote:

 Hello All,

 I’m currently on a development team utilizing PostgreSQL and we are looking 
 into the possibility of using dblink to reference an external database (read 
 only). Our system administrator and DBA were concerned about the performance 
 impact that cross-database queries would have on a production application. 
 Are there any known performance issues or anything of the like that I would 
 need to know before pushing this issue further? I have been using PostgreSQL 
 for the past couple months but this is my first time using dblink. I really 
 just need an opinion from someone who has used this technology before. Thanks!

dblink is a very thin wrapper for libpq.  From the querying database,
the overhead is pretty light -- basically the query is fired and the
results are interpreted from text into whatever the database has in
the receiving result via the various typein functions.   For all
intents and purposes, this is pretty similar to sending in queries
over the regular sql interface.  One gotcha of course is that libpq
buffers the entire result in memory which can be dangerous, so be
advised.

To the receiving database, dblink queries are no different from any
other query, except that they are not parameterized.  Lack of
parameterization and access to the binary protocol are the major
downsides when using dblink.  IMNSHO, dblink needs a variable argument
call that uses the paramterized interface.  Also support for binary
transfer of data would be nice.

merlin

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Re: [GENERAL] Tables creation date and time

2011-12-07 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Prashant Bharucha
prashantbharu...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 Hello All

 Could you please help me to find out of tables creation date and time in 
 database ?

Generally speaking the easiest and simplest way is to log such
information and then go through the logs to find out.  Otherwise,
there's no way that this information is really stored in pgsql.

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Re: [GENERAL] dblink performance

2011-12-07 Thread Marc Mamin
 On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Alex Bible alex.bi...@ctg.com
wrote:
 
  Hello All,
 
  I'm currently on a development team utilizing PostgreSQL and we are
 looking into the possibility of using dblink to reference an external
 database (read only). Our system administrator and DBA were concerned
 about the performance impact that cross-database queries would have on
 a production application. Are there any known performance issues or
 anything of the like that I would need to know before pushing this
 issue further? I have been using PostgreSQL for the past couple months
 but this is my first time using dblink. I really just need an opinion
 from someone who has used this technology before. Thanks!
 
 dblink is a very thin wrapper for libpq.  From the querying database,
 the overhead is pretty light -- basically the query is fired and the
 results are interpreted from text into whatever the database has in
 the receiving result via the various typein functions.   For all
 intents and purposes, this is pretty similar to sending in queries
 over the regular sql interface.  One gotcha of course is that libpq
 buffers the entire result in memory which can be dangerous, so be
 advised.
 
 To the receiving database, dblink queries are no different from any
 other query, except that they are not parameterized.  Lack of
 parameterization and access to the binary protocol are the major
 downsides when using dblink.  IMNSHO, dblink needs a variable argument
 call that uses the paramterized interface.  Also support for binary
 transfer of data would be nice.
 
 merlin

I find dblink being a nice tool as long as the data volume to transfer
remains low.
I've evaluated it to implement a clustered Postgres environment, but
gave it up due to the poor performances.
Still waiting for the binary transfer before the next try ;-)

reagrds,

Marc Mamin

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Re: [GENERAL] dblink performance

2011-12-07 Thread Bruno Lavoie

Le 2011-12-07 11:14, Alex Bible a écrit :


Hello All,

I'm currently on a development team utilizing PostgreSQL and we are 
looking into the possibility of using dblink to reference an external 
database (read only). Our system administrator and DBA were concerned 
about the performance impact that cross-database queries would have on 
a production application. Are there any known performance issues or 
anything of the like that I would need to know before pushing this 
issue further? I have been using PostgreSQL for the past couple months 
but this is my first time using dblink. I really just need an opinion 
from someone who has used this technology before. Thanks!


Alexander E. Bible



Hello,

one problem is when you join local data with remote data. The optimizer 
falls short on this when finding good plans and executing. If you 
frequently need to join with non-volatile remote data, it's generally 
better to make a snapshot of remote tables. It all depends on volume and 
usage patterns of databases.


Interesting link:
http://www.postgresonline.com/journal/archives/44-Using-DbLink-to-access-other-PostgreSQL-Databases-and-Servers.html


hope that's help
Bruno Lavoie
b...@brunol.com
bruno.lav...@gmail.com


Re: [GENERAL] dblink performance

2011-12-07 Thread Merlin Moncure
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Marc Mamin m.ma...@intershop.de wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Alex Bible alex.bi...@ctg.com
 wrote:
 
  Hello All,
 
  I'm currently on a development team utilizing PostgreSQL and we are
 looking into the possibility of using dblink to reference an external
 database (read only). Our system administrator and DBA were concerned
 about the performance impact that cross-database queries would have on
 a production application. Are there any known performance issues or
 anything of the like that I would need to know before pushing this
 issue further? I have been using PostgreSQL for the past couple months
 but this is my first time using dblink. I really just need an opinion
 from someone who has used this technology before. Thanks!

 dblink is a very thin wrapper for libpq.  From the querying database,
 the overhead is pretty light -- basically the query is fired and the
 results are interpreted from text into whatever the database has in
 the receiving result via the various typein functions.   For all
 intents and purposes, this is pretty similar to sending in queries
 over the regular sql interface.  One gotcha of course is that libpq
 buffers the entire result in memory which can be dangerous, so be
 advised.

 To the receiving database, dblink queries are no different from any
 other query, except that they are not parameterized.  Lack of
 parameterization and access to the binary protocol are the major
 downsides when using dblink.  IMNSHO, dblink needs a variable argument
 call that uses the paramterized interface.  Also support for binary
 transfer of data would be nice.

 merlin

 I find dblink being a nice tool as long as the data volume to transfer
 remains low.
 I've evaluated it to implement a clustered Postgres environment, but
 gave it up due to the poor performances.
 Still waiting for the binary transfer before the next try ;-)

Binary transfer is not a super big deal in terms of performance
actually in the general case. It's only substantially faster in a few
cases like timestamp, geo types, and of course bytea.  Lack of
parameterization I find to be a bigger deal actually -- it's more of a
usability headache than a performance thing.

Also FYI binary dblink between databases is going to be problematic
for any non built in type unless the type oids are synchronized across
databases.

merlin

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Re: [GENERAL] dblink performance

2011-12-07 Thread Marc Mamin
 
  I find dblink being a nice tool as long as the data volume to
 transfer
  remains low.
  I've evaluated it to implement a clustered Postgres environment, but
  gave it up due to the poor performances.
  Still waiting for the binary transfer before the next try ;-)
 
 Binary transfer is not a super big deal in terms of performance
 actually in the general case. It's only substantially faster in a few
 cases like timestamp, geo types, and of course bytea.  Lack of
 parameterization I find to be a bigger deal actually -- it's more of a
 usability headache than a performance thing.
 
 Also FYI binary dblink between databases is going to be problematic
 for any non built in type unless the type oids are synchronized across
 databases.
 
 merlin

Thanks,
... so I don't really understand where all the time get lost in the
example I posted a few weeks ago:

http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2011-09/msg00436.php

Marc Mamin

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Re: [GENERAL] Tables creation date and time

2011-12-07 Thread Pavel Stehule
Hello

2011/12/7 Prashant Bharucha prashantbharu...@yahoo.ca

 Hello All

 Could you please help me to find out of tables creation date and time in
 database ?

 Thanks
 P Bharucha


If you have a PostgreSQL 9.1, you can use a security hooks and write own
custom extension, that will store a timestamp to somewhere. This task is
possible - I did it, but I can't to publish this work. There are no other
ways - you can find a some tips on net based on ctime of datafile - but
these values should be invalid.

Regards

Pavel


Re: [GENERAL] dblink performance

2011-12-07 Thread Merlin Moncure
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Marc Mamin m.ma...@intershop.de wrote:
 
  I find dblink being a nice tool as long as the data volume to
 transfer
  remains low.
  I've evaluated it to implement a clustered Postgres environment, but
  gave it up due to the poor performances.
  Still waiting for the binary transfer before the next try ;-)

 Binary transfer is not a super big deal in terms of performance
 actually in the general case. It's only substantially faster in a few
 cases like timestamp, geo types, and of course bytea.  Lack of
 parameterization I find to be a bigger deal actually -- it's more of a
 usability headache than a performance thing.

 Also FYI binary dblink between databases is going to be problematic
 for any non built in type unless the type oids are synchronized across
 databases.

 merlin

 Thanks,
 ... so I don't really understand where all the time get lost in the
 example I posted a few weeks ago:

 http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2011-09/msg00436.php

you wrote:
select count(*) from
(
select * from dblink('a','select * from test_cluster')as t1(a int)
union all
select * from dblink('a','select * from test_cluster')as t1(a int)
union all
select * from dblink('a','select * from test_cluster')as t1(a int)
)foo

is about 5 times slower than an equivalent query run locally.

working with asynchron. queries (dblink_send_query) does not bring much
benefit
so that much time seems to be spent for transfer and merge

it's not exactly fair to compare dblink to local query -- dblink
method requires having to marshal all the data over the protoocl and
un-marshal on the other end.  I was seeing 3-5x times difference vs
local query but this is to be expected.  note the 'union all' had
nothing to so with your performance problems.  Also the querying
server can do a very special trick for count(*) since it only needs to
check tuple visibility that can't be done when doing select count(*)
from (dblink_queries).

My point up thread is that dblink is going to be comparable to other
methods that involve querying the data off the server and doing the
processing on the client side.

merlin

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[GENERAL] Query Slowdown after upgrade from 9.1.1 to 9.1.2

2011-12-07 Thread Jason Long
I upgraded to v9.1.2 a couple of days ago.

Some of my queries are taking noticeably longer.  Some of the slower ones
would max out at about 45 seconds before.  Now they are maxing out at
almost 2 minutes.

The only change I made to postgresql.conf was geqo_effort = 10 and this was
long before this upgrade.

I can provide more info if necessary.  The queries involve join quite a few
tables and views together and also a window query for totals.

Any ideas?


[GENERAL] Hope for a new PostgreSQL era?

2011-12-07 Thread Rodrigo E . De León Plicet
http://www.dbms2.com/2011/11/23/hope-for-a-new-postgresql-era/

Some of the points mentioned:
- MySQL is narrowing the gap, but PostgreSQL is still ahead of MySQL
  in some ways.  (Database extensibility if nothing else.)
- Neither EnterpriseDB (which now calls itself “The enterprise
PostgreSQL
  company”) nor the PostgreSQL community leadership have covered
themselves
  with stewardship glory.
- PostgreSQL advancement is not dead.

Comments?

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Re: [GENERAL] Hope for a new PostgreSQL era?

2011-12-07 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Rodrigo E. De León Plicet
rdele...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.dbms2.com/2011/11/23/hope-for-a-new-postgresql-era/

 Some of the points mentioned:
 - MySQL is narrowing the gap, but PostgreSQL is still ahead of MySQL
  in some ways.  (Database extensibility if nothing else.)
 - Neither EnterpriseDB (which now calls itself “The enterprise
 PostgreSQL
  company”) nor the PostgreSQL community leadership have covered
 themselves
  with stewardship glory.
 - PostgreSQL advancement is not dead.

I'd like to see the author's thoughts filled out on these points.
they seem rather vague and overly simplistic, and  I wonder what
specific points he might have to make rather than this vague hand
wavy list he has so far.

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[GENERAL] pg crash shortly after 9.1.1 - 9.1.2 upgrade

2011-12-07 Thread Joseph Shraibman

All was fine until:

LOG:  statement: select _devel.cleanupEvent('10 minutes'::interval, 
'false'::boolean);

ERROR:  could not open file base/16406/2072097_fsm: Permission denied
STATEMENT:  select _devel.cleanupEvent('10 minutes'::interval, 
'false'::boolean);

WARNING:  AbortTransaction while in COMMIT state
PANIC:  cannot abort transaction 7108311, it was already committed
LOG:  unexpected EOF on client connection
LOG:  unexpected EOF on client connection
LOG:  unexpected EOF on client connection
LOG:  server process (PID 21090) was terminated by signal 6: Aborted
LOG:  terminating any other active server processes
WARNING:  terminating connection because of crash of another server process
DETAIL:  The postmaster has commanded this server process to roll back 
the current transaction and exit, because another server process exited 
abnormally and possibly corrupted shared memory.


...

DETAIL:  The postmaster has commanded this server process to roll back 
the current transaction and exit, because another server process exited 
abnormally and possibly corrupted shared memory.
HINT:  In a moment you should be able to reconnect to the database and 
repeat your command.

LOG:  all server processes terminated; reinitializing
LOG:  database system was interrupted; last known up at 2011-12-07 
14:51:37 EST
LOG:  database system was not properly shut down; automatic recovery in 
progress

LOG:  consistent recovery state reached at 5/C9A28BE4
LOG:  redo starts at 5/C9A26DBC
FATAL:  could not open file base/16406/2072097_fsm: Permission denied
CONTEXT:  xlog redo commit: 2011-12-07 14:56:04.305309-05; rels: 
base/16406/2072101 base/16406/2072100 base/16406/2072099 
base/16406/2072098 base/16406/2072097

LOG:  startup process (PID 25977) exited with exit code 1
LOG:  aborting startup due to startup process failure


I was unable to restart pg until I did a chmod u+rw on that file.  There 
was nothing interesting in the log before the crash, just a bunch of 
activity that was obviously slony.


version is:
PostgreSQL 9.1.2 on i686-pc-linux-gnu, compiled by gcc (GCC) 4.1.2 
20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-48), 32-bit


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Re: [GENERAL] Hope for a new PostgreSQL era?

2011-12-07 Thread Chris Travers
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Scott Marlowe scott.marl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'd like to see the author's thoughts filled out on these points.
 they seem rather vague and overly simplistic, and  I wonder what
 specific points he might have to make rather than this vague hand
 wavy list he has so far.


Additionally I am not entirely sure what he means by the last point.
If you look at the work that NTT along with EDB has put into
Postgres-XC, for example, it looks to me like the Postgres ecosystem
is growing by leaps and bounds and we are approaching an era where
Oracle is no longer ahead in any significant use case.

The thing I am personally worried about is the ability of one company
to dominate the framing of PostgreSQL service offerings.  For example
while in the US it hasn't caught on, a lot of people at MYGOSSCON
accepted EnterpriseDB's framing of the official PostgreSQL release as
the community edition.  If you have a single vendor which dominates
the dialogue that's a bad thing.   To be clear this isn't a criticism
of EDB.  I greatly appreciate the  substantial effort they have put
into building Pg awareness here in SE Asia.  However, it is a caution
about the recommendation that we need a corporate steward.  I argue
corporate stewardship would be a strong net negative because it would
be first and foremost a way to crowd everyone else out.  We have
stewardship.  It's the core committee, and it's the best kind of
stewardship we can have.

Here's a useful post that I was forwarded by another LSMB developer.
http://openlife.cc/blogs/2010/november/how-grow-your-open-source-project-10x-and-revenues-5x

Additionally, I would suggest that PostgreSQL has a lot of users
because we have a great---and open---community.  I think a new
PostgreSQL era is coming but I don't think it will happen the way that
blog poster implies.  There is a tremendous need for Pg skills in SE
Asia right now, and I expect this to continue to grow exponentially.

PostgreSQL advancement also by my view is also not merely not dead
but in fact accelerating.

Best Wishes,
Chris Travers

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Re: [GENERAL] pg crash shortly after 9.1.1 - 9.1.2 upgrade

2011-12-07 Thread Tom Lane
Joseph Shraibman j...@selectacast.net writes:
 All was fine until:
 LOG:  statement: select _devel.cleanupEvent('10 minutes'::interval, 
 'false'::boolean);
 ERROR:  could not open file base/16406/2072097_fsm: Permission denied

That's pretty weird.  What were the permissions on that file?  Was it
properly owned by the postgres user?

 WARNING:  AbortTransaction while in COMMIT state
 PANIC:  cannot abort transaction 7108311, it was already committed

And that's even weirder, since it implies that we tried to open the FSM
file during post-commit cleanup.  The commit-record printout suggests
that we probably were trying to delete the file due to a committed DROP
TABLE operation, but I don't understand why we tried to open the file
rather than just unlink it.

Can you reproduce this?  Can you show us what cleanupEvent() does?

regards, tom lane

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[GENERAL] Very slow table

2011-12-07 Thread Richard Weiss
Hi, I am using squeryl, which is based on jdbc, and I am trying to run the
following statement:
delete from Entry where (id = 0)
but the query never seems to finish. I have tried it in both the program I
am writing, and the above statement in pgadmin3, and both cases never
finish.
Other queries, like
delete from Entry where true
complete.

The table's initialization statement is:

CREATE TABLE Entry
(
  pID bigint NOT NULL,
  id bigint NOT NULL,
  r text NOT NULL,
  CONSTRAINT Entry_pkey PRIMARY KEY (id),
  CONSTRAINT EntryFK21 FOREIGN KEY (pID)
  REFERENCES PP (id) MATCH SIMPLE
  ON UPDATE NO ACTION ON DELETE NO ACTION
)
WITH (
  OIDS=FALSE
);
ALTER TABLE Entry OWNER TO riri;

CREATE INDEX idx2eda05d9
  ON Entry
  USING btree
  (id);

Other information:
Postgres Version: PostgreSQL 8.4.9 on i686-pc-linux-gnu, compiled by GCC
gcc-4.5.real (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.5.2-8ubuntu4) 4.5.2, 32-bit


Thanks, Richard Weiss.


Re: [GENERAL] [pgadmin-support] Help for Migration

2011-12-07 Thread Mamatha_Kagathi_Chan
Thanks everybody for helping me understand how postgres works with stored 
programs. I will remember in future to put certain information clearly as 
mentioned in the website suggested by Craig. Thanks for that as well.

From: Craig Ringer [mailto:ring...@ringerc.id.au]
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 6:53 PM
To: Chan, Mamatha Kagathi
Cc: haram...@gmail.com; pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] [pgadmin-support] Help for Migration

On 12/07/2011 06:57 PM, 
mamatha_kagathi_c...@dell.commailto:mamatha_kagathi_c...@dell.com wrote:

HI Craig,



Yes I am using EnterpriseDB Postgres Plus Advanced Server.

But does that mean Postgres 9.0 version from Postgres community and Postgres9.0 
version from EnterpriseDB works differently?
Yes! They're different things. EnterpriseDB adds an Oracle compatibility layer, 
stored procedures, and all sorts of other little extras. If they were the same, 
why would people pay for EnterpriseDB Advanced Server? They might pay for 
support, but not an up-front license fee for a product where they could 
download it for free...

You still haven't posted select version(). That is one of the first items in 
this page:

  http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Guide_to_reporting_problems

... which I strongly suggest that you read, because following it would've saved 
all of us a lot of hassle and confusion.



And Postgres9.0 from community has a limitation for procedures?
Yes!

PostgreSQL (as of version 9.1 at least) has NO support for stored procedures. 
It supports user-defined stored functions in a variety of languages, but no 
stand-alone procedures. It emulates stored procedures by invoking a stored 
function stand-alone as, eg:

SELECT somefuncname();

but those functions can't do things like BEGIN/COMMIT, etc.



I can also get the same result if I execute it in pgadmin (version downloaded 
from postgres community) which is on a different client machine but connected 
to the server on enterpriseDB version

As EXEC proc.
If you're connected to EnterpriseDB, I'd expect that.

If you're connected to PostgreSQL, maybe PgAdmin is translating EXEC into a 
SELECT ?

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Re: [GENERAL] pg crash shortly after 9.1.1 - 9.1.2 upgrade

2011-12-07 Thread Joseph Shraibman

On 12/08/2011 12:54 AM, Tom Lane wrote:

Joseph Shraibmanj...@selectacast.net  writes:

All was fine until:
LOG:  statement: select _devel.cleanupEvent('10 minutes'::interval,
'false'::boolean);
ERROR:  could not open file base/16406/2072097_fsm: Permission denied


That's pretty weird.  What were the permissions on that file?  Was it
properly owned by the postgres user?


It had no permissions at all

-- 1 postgres postgres 0 Feb 14  2005 2072097_fsm

I actually didn't notice the old date until now.  This was an 8.4.x 
database that I upgraded to 9.1.1 a while ago using pg_upgrade (using 
the hardlink option).  I still have a backup of the 8.4 database from 
when I did the upgrade, and that file doesn't appear in it.



WARNING:  AbortTransaction while in COMMIT state
PANIC:  cannot abort transaction 7108311, it was already committed


And that's even weirder, since it implies that we tried to open the FSM
file during post-commit cleanup.  The commit-record printout suggests
that we probably were trying to delete the file due to a committed DROP
TABLE operation, but I don't understand why we tried to open the file
rather than just unlink it.

Can you reproduce this?


No.  Nothing was going on at the time, and it hasn't happened again (yet).


 Can you show us what cleanupEvent() does?


It's from slony 2.0.7.  The server wasn't in heavy use at the time, and 
all that appeared in the logs as far back as I cared to look was slony 
activity.  That was that last line before the error.


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[GENERAL] Error while vacuuming table

2011-12-07 Thread Nikhil G. Daddikar

Hello,

When I run vacuum, I get:

vacuumdb: vacuuming of database pm50 failed: ERROR:  catalog is 
missing 1 attribute(s) for relid 4210163


How do I go about debugging this? I have googled around and tried a few 
things to no avail.


Any pointers will be appreciated.

Thanks.
Nikhil

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