Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-20 Thread Eduardo Morras
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 09:14:29 +0900
Michael Paquier michael.paqu...@gmail.com wrote:

 You should be careful not to give ideas away. There may be enough
 funds to really create a high-tech-funky suit like that :)
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Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-20 Thread Kenneth Buckler
Hello,

I rarely post in this group, but felt input would be important to chime in
here from a security aspect.

One of the primary challenges I've seen in the past with migrating to
PostgreSQL from Oracle is implementing DISA STIG compliance.  This may or
may not be a requirement in your environment.

While there is an Oracle STIG available, there is currently no PostgreSQL
STIG - so you will need to engineer much of the required settings/etc.
using the Generic Database STIG located at
http://iase.disa.mil/stigs/app_security/database/general.html

Fortunately, because PostgreSQL is secure by default many of the needed
settings are already in place by default. However, you still need
documentation to prove this to an auditor.

Thanks,
Ken Buckler
Caffeine Security


On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:19 AM, bobJobS russelljan...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I am currently working for the Government and there is a huge push to move
 our Oracle databases to a FOSS database solution. Right now, PostgreSQL is
 high on the list.

 What we need is a meeting/training session with the main contributors to
 Postgres to help facilitate solutions of some of the Oracle functionality
 to
 Postgres. This may be an opportunity to gather Government requirements for
 additional Postgres releases. The meeting would be in the Columbia area.

 Some of our needs:
 Package structure similar to Oracle
 Parallel queries
 Multi Master Replication

 Some of the names I've seen
 Tom Lane
 Robert Haas
 Greg Smith
 Simon Riggs

 Please let me know if a meeting is possible. There is another in-house
 meeting April 17th where I would like to pass on contact information or
 needs from the contributors.



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Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-19 Thread Andy Colson

On 3/19/2014 12:33 AM, Jayadevan M wrote:




On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 1:51 AM, Andy Colson a...@squeakycode.net
mailto:a...@squeakycode.net wrote:

On 3/14/2014 6:08 AM, Antman, Jason (CMG-Atlanta) wrote:

I'm not a high level committer, nor am I even a regular poster
to this
list.

not saying this post is true, but... If I'm reading between the
lines
correctly, this could make for quite a striking headline in the tech
news - NSA dumps Oracle proprietary database in favor of
PostgreSQL.


No no.  puts on tin foil hat bobJobS is from Oracle.  They are
tying to lure all the PG developers to a secret meeting  ...  where
they will all disappear.  Problem solved. :-)

-Andy




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I love that theory. You have been watching too many thrillers. But which
problem gets solved?


I dunno.  I'm new at conspiracy theories :-).  I hoped, by some stretch, 
Oracle was feeling the heat of competition from PG ... and decided to 
solve the problem.  See?


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Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-19 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Andy Colson escribió:

 I dunno.  I'm new at conspiracy theories :-).  I hoped, by some
 stretch, Oracle was feeling the heat of competition from PG ... and
 decided to solve the problem.  See?

If Oracle decided to solve the problem in these ways, I'm pretty sure
they would already have many hackers' home coordinates and could have
sent Iron Man after them long ago.  I wouldn't worry about this, really.

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Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-19 Thread Atri Sharma
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@2ndquadrant.comwrote:

 Andy Colson escribió:

  I dunno.  I'm new at conspiracy theories :-).  I hoped, by some
  stretch, Oracle was feeling the heat of competition from PG ... and
  decided to solve the problem.  See?

 If Oracle decided to solve the problem in these ways, I'm pretty sure
 they would already have many hackers' home coordinates and could have
 sent Iron Man after them long ago.  I wouldn't worry about this, really.




Do I hear Iron Man's thrusters outside your door? ;)

Regards,

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Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-19 Thread Michael Paquier
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Alvaro Herrera
alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com wrote:
 Andy Colson escribió:

 I dunno.  I'm new at conspiracy theories :-).  I hoped, by some
 stretch, Oracle was feeling the heat of competition from PG ... and
 decided to solve the problem.  See?

 If Oracle decided to solve the problem in these ways, I'm pretty sure
 they would already have many hackers' home coordinates and could have
 sent Iron Man after them long ago.  I wouldn't worry about this, really.
You should be careful not to give ideas away. There may be enough
funds to really create a high-tech-funky suit like that :)
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Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-18 Thread Simon Riggs
On 12 March 2014 15:19, bobJobS russelljan...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I am currently working for the Government and there is a huge push to move
 our Oracle databases to a FOSS database solution. Right now, PostgreSQL is
 high on the list.

 What we need is a meeting/training session with the main contributors to
 Postgres to help facilitate solutions of some of the Oracle functionality to
 Postgres. This may be an opportunity to gather Government requirements for
 additional Postgres releases. The meeting would be in the Columbia area.

 Some of our needs:
 Package structure similar to Oracle
 Parallel queries
 Multi Master Replication

 Some of the names I've seen
 Tom Lane
 Robert Haas
 Greg Smith
 Simon Riggs

 Please let me know if a meeting is possible. There is another in-house
 meeting April 17th where I would like to pass on contact information or
 needs from the contributors.

Thanks very much for mentioning my name in this context.

As PostgreSQL is community driven project and is not owned by any
single company, people who wish to sponsor development of major
features need to contact invidual developers or companies providing
such services, rather than making a general posting.

My company, 2ndQuadrant, has been contributing major features to
PostgreSQL for 10 full years now and we aim to accelerate the growth
of community development into the future. 2ndQuadrant guarantees that
all sponsored developments will be contractually bound to novate
copyright to the PostgreSQL Global Development Group and to release
all such code under The PostgreSQL Licence. In addition, wherever
possible, given community discussion, feedback and agreement the code
will be submitted as patches to core PostgreSQL and we will pursue
commit of those changes as well as longer term bug fixing.

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Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-18 Thread Jayadevan M
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 1:51 AM, Andy Colson a...@squeakycode.net wrote:

 On 3/14/2014 6:08 AM, Antman, Jason (CMG-Atlanta) wrote:

 I'm not a high level committer, nor am I even a regular poster to this
 list.

 not saying this post is true, but... If I'm reading between the lines
 correctly, this could make for quite a striking headline in the tech
 news - NSA dumps Oracle proprietary database in favor of PostgreSQL.


 No no.  puts on tin foil hat bobJobS is from Oracle.  They are tying to
 lure all the PG developers to a secret meeting  ...  where they will all
 disappear.  Problem solved. :-)

 -Andy




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I love that theory. You have been watching too many thrillers. But which
problem gets solved?


Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-14 Thread Antman, Jason (CMG-Atlanta)
I'm not a high level committer, nor am I even a regular poster to this 
list.

not saying this post is true, but... If I'm reading between the lines 
correctly, this could make for quite a striking headline in the tech 
news - NSA dumps Oracle proprietary database in favor of PostgreSQL.

I'd venture a guess that, whether he's legitimate or not, bobJobS 
mentioned the Columbia area referring to Columbia, MD, USA. The two 
biggest employers in the area that I can think of are the NSA and a 
bunch of DoD facilities... once again, not saying this is legitimate, 
but they are the types of operations that go for cloak-and-dagger we 
have something interesting to talk to you about, why don't you come down 
and meet some of our people in a hotel and sign reams of NDAs before we 
tell you who we are offers.

On 03/12/2014 01:13 PM, bobJobS wrote:
 Understood and I agree.

 I will check to see how much contact detail I can divulge in an open forum.



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Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-14 Thread Andy Colson

On 3/14/2014 6:08 AM, Antman, Jason (CMG-Atlanta) wrote:

I'm not a high level committer, nor am I even a regular poster to this
list.

not saying this post is true, but... If I'm reading between the lines
correctly, this could make for quite a striking headline in the tech
news - NSA dumps Oracle proprietary database in favor of PostgreSQL.



No no.  puts on tin foil hat bobJobS is from Oracle.  They are tying 
to lure all the PG developers to a secret meeting  ...  where they will 
all disappear.  Problem solved. :-)


-Andy



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[GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-12 Thread bobJobS
I am currently working for the Government and there is a huge push to move
our Oracle databases to a FOSS database solution. Right now, PostgreSQL is
high on the list.

What we need is a meeting/training session with the main contributors to
Postgres to help facilitate solutions of some of the Oracle functionality to
Postgres. This may be an opportunity to gather Government requirements for
additional Postgres releases. The meeting would be in the Columbia area.

Some of our needs:
Package structure similar to Oracle
Parallel queries
Multi Master Replication

Some of the names I've seen
Tom Lane
Robert Haas
Greg Smith
Simon Riggs

Please let me know if a meeting is possible. There is another in-house
meeting April 17th where I would like to pass on contact information or
needs from the contributors.



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Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-12 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:19 PM, bobJobS russelljan...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I am currently working for the Government and there is a huge push to move
 our Oracle databases to a FOSS database solution. Right now, PostgreSQL is
 high on the list.

 What we need is a meeting/training session with the main contributors to
 Postgres to help facilitate solutions of some of the Oracle functionality
 to
 Postgres. This may be an opportunity to gather Government requirements for
 additional Postgres releases. The meeting would be in the Columbia area.

 Some of our needs:
 Package structure similar to Oracle
 Parallel queries
 Multi Master Replication

 Some of the names I've seen
 Tom Lane
 Robert Haas
 Greg Smith
 Simon Riggs

 Please let me know if a meeting is possible. There is another in-house
 meeting April 17th where I would like to pass on contact information or
 needs from the contributors.



I would suggest you consider attending pgcon, as many of the major
developers will be there, including many committers (both those you have
mentioned and others). I'm sure several of these topics will already be
covered there, and there's also an unconference day that is open for any
topic.

See http://www.pgcon.org/2014/.

No, it's not in the Columbia area (any of them), but on the other hand,
there will be experts from all over the world there.

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Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-12 Thread Adrian Klaver

On 03/12/2014 08:19 AM, bobJobS wrote:

I am currently working for the Government and there is a huge push to move
our Oracle databases to a FOSS database solution. Right now, PostgreSQL is
high on the list.


What Government?



What we need is a meeting/training session with the main contributors to
Postgres to help facilitate solutions of some of the Oracle functionality to
Postgres. This may be an opportunity to gather Government requirements for
additional Postgres releases. The meeting would be in the Columbia area.


Columbia the country or the District?



Some of our needs:
Package structure similar to Oracle
Parallel queries
Multi Master Replication


You might to look at the below for companies that could help:

http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support/



Some of the names I've seen
Tom Lane
Robert Haas
Greg Smith
Simon Riggs

Please let me know if a meeting is possible. There is another in-house
meeting April 17th where I would like to pass on contact information or
needs from the contributors.


As it happens there is PgCon where you can meet a lot of these people 
and more:


http://www.pgcon.org/2014/




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Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-12 Thread David Boreham


On 3/12/2014 9:34 AM, Adrian Klaver wrote:


Columbia the country or the District?


There's also the river...






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Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-12 Thread Gary Chambers

Columbia the country or the District?


There's also the river...


And South Carolina...

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Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-12 Thread alexandros_e
It seems like spam to me. Where is the guy's name or credentials? If I would
request something, I would sign with my name, government email and
telephone.



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Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-12 Thread Adrian Klaver

On 03/12/2014 08:38 AM, David Boreham wrote:


On 3/12/2014 9:34 AM, Adrian Klaver wrote:


Columbia the country or the District?


There's also the river...


Yea, and here me living in Washington State.











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Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-12 Thread David Boreham


On 3/12/2014 9:49 AM, alexandros_e wrote:

It seems like spam to me. Where is the guy's name or credentials? If I would
request something, I would sign with my name, government email and
telephone.


Or it is a 20-day-early April 1 email.




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Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-12 Thread Adrian Klaver

On 03/12/2014 08:48 AM, Gary Chambers wrote:

Columbia the country or the District?


There's also the river...


And South Carolina...


Alright, I am going to go with the answer from Magnus:

.. in the Columbia area (any of them)..



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Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-12 Thread bobJobS
Two valid questions.
1. Columbia, Maryland
2. US Government

Attending PGCon does make sense, however I was asked specifically to see if
I could get someone for an onsite meeting.



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Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-12 Thread bobJobS
Your professional input is greatly appreciated.



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Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-12 Thread Adrian Klaver

On 03/12/2014 09:43 AM, bobJobS wrote:

Your professional input is greatly appreciated.


My guess is you will get more assistance if you are more forthcoming 
with information. There is also the issue of your email address, 
*@yahoo.com is sort of generic to be charitable. At the moment all we 
know is:


1) You are representing some unknown company/US government agency.

2) You want to migrate a US government Oracle database of unknown 
dimension and complexity to Postgres on an unknown time scale.


3) You and or other people would like to meet with Postgres developers 
to sound out ideas.


I would say you will need to fill in the details of the above in order 
to get a coherent response. My second guess is, that if you do share 
details, there are already companies on the list I shared earlier that 
can help you right now.




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Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-12 Thread bobJobS
Understood and I agree.

I will check to see how much contact detail I can divulge in an open forum.



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Re: [GENERAL] High Level Committers Wanted

2014-03-12 Thread John R Pierce

On 3/12/2014 8:19 AM, bobJobS wrote:

What we need is a meeting/training session with the main contributors to
Postgres to help facilitate solutions of some of the Oracle functionality to
Postgres. This may be an opportunity to gather Government requirements for
additional Postgres releases. The meeting would be in the Columbia area.

Some of our needs:
Package structure similar to Oracle
Parallel queries
Multi Master Replication



you likely would do better to put one of the postgresql development 
companies, like 2ndQuadrant, under retainer


some of your needs may be met by EnterpriseDB's PostgreSQL Advanced 
Server, which has extensive Oracle compatability added to it.


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