[HACKERS] Streaming solution and v3.1 protocol
Hello, Sorry for short introduction about this, and plese as far as possible, disconnet it from LOBs, as it on top of LOB. Idea of streaming is to reduce memory copy mainly during receiving and sending tuples. Currently receive works as follows 1. Read bytes of tuple (allocate x memory). 2. Eventually convert it to database encoding. 3. Use this data and create datum (which is little changed copy of 1 or 2) 4. Streaming will be allowed only in binary mode, and actually stream in/out will return binary data. Look for example at execution chain from textrecv. Idea is to add stream_in, stream_out columns pg_type. When value is to be serialized the sin/sout is called. Struct must pass len of data, and struct of stream (simillar to C FILE*). Caller should validate if all bytes has been consumed (expose simple methods for this) To implement(code API requirements): First stream is buffered socekt reader. Fast substreams - create fast stream limited to x bytes basing on other stream Skipping bytes + skipAll() Stream filtering - do fast (faster will be if conversion will occure in buffered chunks) encoding conversion. Support for direct PG printf() version. Linux has ability to create cookie streams and use it with fprintf(), so its greate advantage to format huge strings. Other system should buffer output. Problem is if Linux cookie will fail will it write something to output? Windows proxy will push value to temp buffer. Good idea may be to introduce new version of protocol reserving len field value (-2) for fixed size streams above 4GB (-3) for chunked streaming - actualy is innovative functionality and it's not required by any driver. In streaming it may be imagined that socket's fd will be passed to sin functions. Problems: during output - something failed while writing. Resolution, add some control flags for each n-bytes send to client. This will prevent sending of e.g. 4GB of data if first byte filed, You send only n-bytes and then abort is received - or send data in frames. Regards, Radek -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Streaming solution and v3.1 protocol
On 03.06.2011 19:19, Radosław Smogura wrote: Hello, Sorry for short introduction about this, and plese as far as possible, disconnet it from LOBs, as it on top of LOB. Idea of streaming is to reduce memory copy mainly during receiving and sending tuples. Currently receive works as follows 1. Read bytes of tuple (allocate x memory). 2. Eventually convert it to database encoding. 3. Use this data and create datum (which is little changed copy of 1 or 2) 4. Streaming will be allowed only in binary mode, and actually stream in/out will return binary data. Hmm, I was thinking that streaming would be a whole new mode, alongside the current text and binary mode. Look for example at execution chain from textrecv. Idea is to add stream_in, stream_out columns pg_type. When value is to be serialized the sin/sout is called. Struct must pass len of data, and struct of stream (simillar to C FILE*). Caller should validate if all bytes has been consumed (expose simple methods for this) To implement(code API requirements): First stream is buffered socekt reader. Fast substreams - create fast stream limited to x bytes basing on other stream Skipping bytes + skipAll() Stream filtering - do fast (faster will be if conversion will occure in buffered chunks) encoding conversion. Support for direct PG printf() version. Linux has ability to create cookie streams and use it with fprintf(), so its greate advantage to format huge strings. Other system should buffer output. Problem is if Linux cookie will fail will it write something to output? Windows proxy will push value to temp buffer. This is pretty low-level stuff, I think we should focus on the protocol changes and user-visible libpq API first. However, we don't want to use anything Linux-specific here, so that cookie streams are not an option. -- Heikki Linnakangas EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] Streaming solution and v3.1 protocol
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Heikki Linnakangas heikki.linnakan...@enterprisedb.com wrote: On 03.06.2011 19:19, Radosław Smogura wrote: Hello, Sorry for short introduction about this, and plese as far as possible, disconnet it from LOBs, as it on top of LOB. Idea of streaming is to reduce memory copy mainly during receiving and sending tuples. Currently receive works as follows 1. Read bytes of tuple (allocate x memory). 2. Eventually convert it to database encoding. 3. Use this data and create datum (which is little changed copy of 1 or 2) 4. Streaming will be allowed only in binary mode, and actually stream in/out will return binary data. Hmm, I was thinking that streaming would be a whole new mode, alongside the current text and binary mode. Look for example at execution chain from textrecv. Idea is to add stream_in, stream_out columns pg_type. When value is to be serialized the sin/sout is called. Struct must pass len of data, and struct of stream (simillar to C FILE*). Caller should validate if all bytes has been consumed (expose simple methods for this) To implement(code API requirements): First stream is buffered socekt reader. Fast substreams - create fast stream limited to x bytes basing on other stream Skipping bytes + skipAll() Stream filtering - do fast (faster will be if conversion will occure in buffered chunks) encoding conversion. Support for direct PG printf() version. Linux has ability to create cookie streams and use it with fprintf(), so its greate advantage to format huge strings. Other system should buffer output. Problem is if Linux cookie will fail will it write something to output? Windows proxy will push value to temp buffer. This is pretty low-level stuff, I think we should focus on the protocol changes and user-visible libpq API first. +1. in particular, I'd like to see the libpq api changes. merlin -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
