Re: [Phono-L] Decal success!!
Congratulations! I think it looks pretty good! Dave --- On Thu, 8/5/10, john robles john9...@pacbell.net wrote: From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net Subject: [Phono-L] Decal success!! To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 12:48 AM Ok, I tried again with the new set tonight, and based on my horrible experience with the first set, I adapted my method a bit (and used the correct solution first). The results were much happier than the first time. I have applied all left side decals except for the stripe that goes around the top of the bracket (where the elbow and tonearm meet). To see the result, cut and paste this link into our browser window and it will take you to my photobucket space. http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/?action=view¤t=VicIIBracketDecals.jpg There is some very very fine wrinkling, but I understand that the Micro Set will take care of it. John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Decal success!!
Hi John, Great job. It really looks great!! I suggest that you coat the back bracket with a couple of coats of Bullseye orange shellac. It gives the decals that orange look like aged decals. The coatings protect the decals, too. You can get Bullseye shellac at any good hardware store. Good luck and great job. Harvey Kravitz From: David Dazer dda...@sbcglobal.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 4:05:23 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Decal success!! Congratulations! I think it looks pretty good! Dave --- On Thu, 8/5/10, john robles john9...@pacbell.net wrote: From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net Subject: [Phono-L] Decal success!! To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 12:48 AM Ok, I tried again with the new set tonight, and based on my horrible experience with the first set, I adapted my method a bit (and used the correct solution first). The results were much happier than the first time. I have applied all left side decals except for the stripe that goes around the top of the bracket (where the elbow and tonearm meet). To see the result, cut and paste this link into our browser window and it will take you to my photobucket space. http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/?action=view¤t=VicIIBracketDecals.jpg There is some very very fine wrinkling, but I understand that the Micro Set will take care of it. John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Decal success!!
If you use bullseye the stabilizer in the stuff along with the alcohol will eat your decals right off. Use a high grade dewaxed shellac(lemon yellow works well) and an air brush for multiple very dry coats till you get some thickness then a damp coat to make it glossy. harvey kravitz wrote: Hi John, Great job. It really looks great!! I suggest that you coat the back bracket with a couple of coats of Bullseye orange shellac. It gives the decals that orange look like aged decals. The coatings protect the decals, too. You can get Bullseye shellac at any good hardware store. Good luck and great job. Harvey Kravitz From: David Dazer dda...@sbcglobal.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 4:05:23 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Decal success!! Congratulations! I think it looks pretty good! Dave --- On Thu, 8/5/10, john robles john9...@pacbell.net wrote: From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net Subject: [Phono-L] Decal success!! To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 12:48 AM Ok, I tried again with the new set tonight, and based on my horrible experience with the first set, I adapted my method a bit (and used the correct solution first). The results were much happier than the first time. I have applied all left side decals except for the stripe that goes around the top of the bracket (where the elbow and tonearm meet). To see the result, cut and paste this link into our browser window and it will take you to my photobucket space. http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/?action=view¤t=VicIIBracketDecals.jpg There is some very very fine wrinkling, but I understand that the Micro Set will take care of it. John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Decal success!!
I've been using Bullseye for ever 20 years and never had a problem with it. Harvey Kravitz From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 11:31:27 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Decal success!! If you use bullseye the stabilizer in the stuff along with the alcohol will eat your decals right off. Use a high grade dewaxed shellac(lemon yellow works well) and an air brush for multiple very dry coats till you get some thickness then a damp coat to make it glossy. harvey kravitz wrote: Hi John, Great job. It really looks great!! I suggest that you coat the back bracket with a couple of coats of Bullseye orange shellac. It gives the decals that orange look like aged decals. The coatings protect the decals, too. You can get Bullseye shellac at any good hardware store. Good luck and great job. Harvey Kravitz From: David Dazer dda...@sbcglobal.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 4:05:23 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Decal success!! Congratulations! I think it looks pretty good! Dave --- On Thu, 8/5/10, john robles john9...@pacbell.net wrote: From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net Subject: [Phono-L] Decal success!! To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 12:48 AM Ok, I tried again with the new set tonight, and based on my horrible experience with the first set, I adapted my method a bit (and used the correct solution first). The results were much happier than the first time. I have applied all left side decals except for the stripe that goes around the top of the bracket (where the elbow and tonearm meet). To see the result, cut and paste this link into our browser window and it will take you to my photobucket space. http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/?action=view¤t=VicIIBracketDecals.jpg g There is some very very fine wrinkling, but I understand that the Micro Set will take care of it. John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Decal success!!
If you put it on a fresh water set decal and it is brushed on without flowing on single light coats the decal lifts and crinkles. If you know how to do it then it very well can be done. As the individual who just applied the decal went through a deal of expense and angst to get them on. A casual application of bullseye with a brush is asking for a disaster. You can dust on that bullseye from a Foo-Foo can if you are careful though. harvey kravitz wrote: I've been using Bullseye for ever 20 years and never had a problem with it. Harvey Kravitz From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 11:31:27 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Decal success!! If you use bullseye the stabilizer in the stuff along with the alcohol will eat your decals right off. Use a high grade dewaxed shellac(lemon yellow works well) and an air brush for multiple very dry coats till you get some thickness then a damp coat to make it glossy. harvey kravitz wrote: Hi John, Great job. It really looks great!! I suggest that you coat the back bracket with a couple of coats of Bullseye orange shellac. It gives the decals that orange look like aged decals. The coatings protect the decals, too. You can get Bullseye shellac at any good hardware store. Good luck and great job. Harvey Kravitz From: David Dazer dda...@sbcglobal.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 4:05:23 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Decal success!! Congratulations! I think it looks pretty good! Dave --- On Thu, 8/5/10, john robles john9...@pacbell.net wrote: From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net Subject: [Phono-L] Decal success!! To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 12:48 AM Ok, I tried again with the new set tonight, and based on my horrible experience with the first set, I adapted my method a bit (and used the correct solution first). The results were much happier than the first time. I have applied all left side decals except for the stripe that goes around the top of the bracket (where the elbow and tonearm meet). To see the result, cut and paste this link into our browser window and it will take you to my photobucket space. http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/?action=view¤t=VicIIBracketDecals.jpg g There is some very very fine wrinkling, but I understand that the Micro Set will take care of it. John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Decal success!!
Hmmaybe I'll try Bullseye another time on some practice decals. I have plenty of striping left to practice with. --- On Thu, 8/5/10, Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com wrote: From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Decal success!! To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 1:55 PM If you put it on a fresh water set decal and it is brushed on without flowing on single light coats the decal lifts and crinkles. If you know how to do it then it very well can be done. As the individual who just applied the decal went through a deal of expense and angst to get them on. A casual application of bullseye with a brush is asking for a disaster. You can dust on that bullseye from a Foo-Foo can if you are careful though. harvey kravitz wrote: I've been using Bullseye for ever 20 years and never had a problem with it. Harvey Kravitz From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 11:31:27 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Decal success!! If you use bullseye the stabilizer in the stuff along with the alcohol will eat your decals right off. Use a high grade dewaxed shellac(lemon yellow works well) and an air brush for multiple very dry coats till you get some thickness then a damp coat to make it glossy. harvey kravitz wrote: Hi John, Great job. It really looks great!! I suggest that you coat the back bracket with a couple of coats of Bullseye orange shellac. It gives the decals that orange look like aged decals. The coatings protect the decals, too. You can get Bullseye shellac at any good hardware store. Good luck and great job. Harvey Kravitz From: David Dazer dda...@sbcglobal.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 4:05:23 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Decal success!! Congratulations! I think it looks pretty good! Dave --- On Thu, 8/5/10, john robles john9...@pacbell.net wrote: From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net Subject: [Phono-L] Decal success!! To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 12:48 AM Ok, I tried again with the new set tonight, and based on my horrible experience with the first set, I adapted my method a bit (and used the correct solution first). The results were much happier than the first time. I have applied all left side decals except for the stripe that goes around the top of the bracket (where the elbow and tonearm meet). To see the result, cut and paste this link into our browser window and it will take you to my photobucket space. http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/?action=view¤t=VicIIBracketDecals.jpg g There is some very very fine wrinkling, but I understand that the Micro Set will take care of it. John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Completed decals
Lacquer will eat them also. There is a decal clear overcoating material. Go to a good hobby shop that deals in large scale model RR or large RC planes and ask for the stuff. Once coated then you can overcoat that with lacquer or shellac. I think there are both flat and gloss overcoat materials. john robles wrote: The decals are complete on the bracket. I still have to add the Micro Sol to soften and flatten them and make the edges less noticeable. Then I will coat it with lacquer, either the orange as suggested or a clear. I like the idea of the orange. Thanks for all the comments! John http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/ ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Completed decals
The hobby shop where I got the Micro Set sold me a small can of Testor's flat clear overcoat, so maybe I already have the right stuff. It only came in flat or gloss. I took the bracket in and showed him what I was doing. He told me if I wanted a soft gloss to just 'kiss' the surface with the spray. John --- On Thu, 8/5/10, Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com wrote: From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Completed decals To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 3:05 PM Lacquer will eat them also. There is a decal clear overcoating material. Go to a good hobby shop that deals in large scale model RR or large RC planes and ask for the stuff. Once coated then you can overcoat that with lacquer or shellac. I think there are both flat and gloss overcoat materials. john robles wrote: The decals are complete on the bracket. I still have to add the Micro Sol to soften and flatten them and make the edges less noticeable. Then I will coat it with lacquer, either the orange as suggested or a clear. I like the idea of the orange. Thanks for all the comments! John http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/ ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Completed decals
That is the stuff. Couple of dust coats and then you can overcoat with shellac. john robles wrote: The hobby shop where I got the Micro Set sold me a small can of Testor's flat clear overcoat, so maybe I already have the right stuff. It only came in flat or gloss. I took the bracket in and showed him what I was doing. He told me if I wanted a soft gloss to just 'kiss' the surface with the spray. John --- On Thu, 8/5/10, Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com wrote: From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Completed decals To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 3:05 PM Lacquer will eat them also. There is a decal clear overcoating material. Go to a good hobby shop that deals in large scale model RR or large RC planes and ask for the stuff. Once coated then you can overcoat that with lacquer or shellac. I think there are both flat and gloss overcoat materials. john robles wrote: The decals are complete on the bracket. I still have to add the Micro Sol to soften and flatten them and make the edges less noticeable. Then I will coat it with lacquer, either the orange as suggested or a clear. I like the idea of the orange. Thanks for all the comments! John http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/ ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Completed decals
I knew it would look great once you got it done. It's a very tedious job, but the results are well worth the effort. Congrats. Curt Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 16:18:51 -0700 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Completed decals The hobby shop where I got the Micro Set sold me a small can of Testor's flat clear overcoat, so maybe I already have the right stuff. It only came in flat or gloss. I took the bracket in and showed him what I was doing. He told me if I wanted a soft gloss to just 'kiss' the surface with the spray. John --- On Thu, 8/5/10, Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com wrote: From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Completed decals To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 3:05 PM Lacquer will eat them also. There is a decal clear overcoating material. Go to a good hobby shop that deals in large scale model RR or large RC planes and ask for the stuff. Once coated then you can overcoat that with lacquer or shellac. I think there are both flat and gloss overcoat materials. john robles wrote: The decals are complete on the bracket. I still have to add the Micro Sol to soften and flatten them and make the edges less noticeable. Then I will coat it with lacquer, either the orange as suggested or a clear. I like the idea of the orange. Thanks for all the comments! John http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/ ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Decal success!!
When I did my Berliner, I brushed on orange shellac and waited for it to dry good. Then applied the decal and sprayed clear shellac over it. This made it disappear into the finish. Then I topcoated it with orange shellac and it looks great. Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 14:28:52 -0700 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Decal success!! Hmmaybe I'll try Bullseye another time on some practice decals. I have plenty of striping left to practice with. --- On Thu, 8/5/10, Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com wrote: From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Decal success!! To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 1:55 PM If you put it on a fresh water set decal and it is brushed on without flowing on single light coats the decal lifts and crinkles. If you know how to do it then it very well can be done. As the individual who just applied the decal went through a deal of expense and angst to get them on. A casual application of bullseye with a brush is asking for a disaster. You can dust on that bullseye from a Foo-Foo can if you are careful though. harvey kravitz wrote: I've been using Bullseye for ever 20 years and never had a problem with it. Harvey Kravitz From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 11:31:27 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Decal success!! If you use bullseye the stabilizer in the stuff along with the alcohol will eat your decals right off. Use a high grade dewaxed shellac(lemon yellow works well) and an air brush for multiple very dry coats till you get some thickness then a damp coat to make it glossy. harvey kravitz wrote: Hi John, Great job. It really looks great!! I suggest that you coat the back bracket with a couple of coats of Bullseye orange shellac. It gives the decals that orange look like aged decals. The coatings protect the decals, too. You can get Bullseye shellac at any good hardware store. Good luck and great job. Harvey Kravitz From: David Dazer dda...@sbcglobal.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 4:05:23 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Decal success!! Congratulations! I think it looks pretty good! Dave --- On Thu, 8/5/10, john robles john9...@pacbell.net wrote: From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net Subject: [Phono-L] Decal success!! To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 12:48 AM Ok, I tried again with the new set tonight, and based on my horrible experience with the first set, I adapted my method a bit (and used the correct solution first). The results were much happier than the first time. I have applied all left side decals except for the stripe that goes around the top of the bracket (where the elbow and tonearm meet). To see the result, cut and paste this link into our browser window and it will take you to my photobucket space. http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/?action=view¤t=VicIIBracketDecals.jpg g There is some very very fine wrinkling, but I understand that the Micro Set will take care of it. John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
