[Phono-L] The Sandblaster
Does anyone know who the sandblaster is who sells the sandblasted painted reproducers on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GORGEOUS-BRASS-EDISON-DIAMOND-DISC-REPRODUCER-COMPLETELY-REBUILT-FREE-WARRANTY-/280875848529 I like how he painted the reproducer with the stylus bar in place, you can see the paint on the bar, very good to allow for freedom of the stylus bar movement. I asked for the serial number on a bronze oxidized reproducer he was selling. These reproducers were made only for the Duncan Stop which he did not know. Edison made three MAIN different oxidized DD reproducers, the final one collectors call gun metal, Edison called it the Antique finish. The first is the copper oxidized which is like the Idelia finish, and the bronze was used for machines such as the W250 and it is always found with the setup for the Duncan Stop. Here is my communication with the sandblaster: Me: What is the serial number? SB: Have you purchased this item or bid on this item? HE KNEW I DID NOT. Me: No I have not purchased or bid on the item, do I have to purchase or bid to ask questions? HE THOUGHT THIS WAS A SMART REPLY, I THOUGHT IT WAS DUMB REPLY TO ASK A QUESTION YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO. SB: Vital information as such goes to the winner--so if you buy it, you get that information. Hey, what's your social? Do I have to know you to get that? Make smartass remarks and you will get them returned. I have time for serious inquiries only...not people trying to be nosy. IF ALL COLLECTORS WERE LIKE THE SANDBLASTER RESEARCH WOULD MUCH MORE DIFFICULT AND THERE WOULD BE A LOT LESS COLLECTORS AS 99.99% WOULD NOT BE COLLECTORS AS 99.99% ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. Me: You are clearly an idiot, serial numbers vital information? I SHOULD NOT HAVE SAID THIS, MY MISTAKE AND I DO FEEL BAD. You probably do not know where the serial number is or that the serial number begins with EM and this reproducer is found only on the machines with a Duncan stop. Do not write back, I wanted to see if the serial number was higher than the five of these I have. I collect based on serial numbers. SB: And if it's not vital, why do you want it? You're the idiot. Go home to your trailer and grab 'ya a tall one. DUNCAN STOP REPRODUCER WERE MADE WHEN DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE SLEEVE IN THE THROAT, THE EARLY ONES HAVE THE SLEEVE. EDISON CONTINUED TO IMPROVE THE DD REPRODUCER SO THE LATER ONES HAVE BETTER SOUND. DURING THE TIME WHEN THE DUNCAN STOP WAS BEING MADE ALL EDISON DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE BENT LIMIT PIN SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN THE DUNCAN STOPPED BEING MADE, IN THE B SERIES OF THE REGULAR DD REPRODUCER. ALL THIS INO I HAVE IS BASED ON PEOPLE SHARING SERIAL NUMBERS. THE ONES WITH THE SLEEVE DO NOT SOUND AS GOOD AS THE LATER ONES. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster
I enjoyed his description of the drying room where the freshly painted parts cure at room temp. Sounds a lot like my workshop, er, I mean drying room. Too bad he was so nasty to you. D From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org; phonol...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 6, 2012 8:18:05 AM Subject: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster Does anyone know who the sandblaster is who sells the sandblasted painted reproducers on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GORGEOUS-BRASS-EDISON-DIAMOND-DISC-REPRODUCER-COMPLETELY-REBUILT-FREE-WARRANTY-/280875848529 I like how he painted the reproducer with the stylus bar in place, you can see the paint on the bar, very good to allow for freedom of the stylus bar movement. I asked for the serial number on a bronze oxidized reproducer he was selling. These reproducers were made only for the Duncan Stop which he did not know. Edison made three MAIN different oxidized DD reproducers, the final one collectors call gun metal, Edison called it the Antique finish. The first is the copper oxidized which is like the Idelia finish, and the bronze was used for machines such as the W250 and it is always found with the setup for the Duncan Stop. Here is my communication with the sandblaster: Me: What is the serial number? SB: Have you purchased this item or bid on this item? HE KNEW I DID NOT. Me: No I have not purchased or bid on the item, do I have to purchase or bid to ask questions? HE THOUGHT THIS WAS A SMART REPLY, I THOUGHT IT WAS DUMB REPLY TO ASK A QUESTION YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO. SB: Vital information as such goes to the winner--so if you buy it, you get that information. Hey, what's your social? Do I have to know you to get that? Make smartass remarks and you will get them returned. I have time for serious inquiries only...not people trying to be nosy. IF ALL COLLECTORS WERE LIKE THE SANDBLASTER RESEARCH WOULD MUCH MORE DIFFICULT AND THERE WOULD BE A LOT LESS COLLECTORS AS 99.99% WOULD NOT BE COLLECTORS AS 99.99% ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. Me: You are clearly an idiot, serial numbers vital information? I SHOULD NOT HAVE SAID THIS, MY MISTAKE AND I DO FEEL BAD. You probably do not know where the serial number is or that the serial number begins with EM and this reproducer is found only on the machines with a Duncan stop. Do not write back, I wanted to see if the serial number was higher than the five of these I have. I collect based on serial numbers. SB: And if it's not vital, why do you want it? You're the idiot. Go home to your trailer and grab 'ya a tall one. DUNCAN STOP REPRODUCER WERE MADE WHEN DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE SLEEVE IN THE THROAT, THE EARLY ONES HAVE THE SLEEVE. EDISON CONTINUED TO IMPROVE THE DD REPRODUCER SO THE LATER ONES HAVE BETTER SOUND. DURING THE TIME WHEN THE DUNCAN STOP WAS BEING MADE ALL EDISON DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE BENT LIMIT PIN SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN THE DUNCAN STOPPED BEING MADE, IN THE B SERIES OF THE REGULAR DD REPRODUCER. ALL THIS INO I HAVE IS BASED ON PEOPLE SHARING SERIAL NUMBERS. THE ONES WITH THE SLEEVE DO NOT SOUND AS GOOD AS THE LATER ONES. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller
Not sure my original email was received, but wanted to update all regarding the Lithuanian fraudulent seller. Paypal returned my money, and the Lithuanian con man came up empty with the radar from paypal and ebay on the lookout for him. One of the helpful contributing factors was the help I received from this phono email connection. I mentioned to paypal that I was in contact with other collectors on this email site that they were aware of a Lithuanian conman with the same MO on eaby. Because I had alerted them on the day I purchased the item, they withheld the funds until verified. He has no money and we have his number! Thanks again to everyone, this connection has been of great service and a support for an emotional roller coaster ride. Randy Larson On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:23 AM, The Farmers g...@usfamily.net wrote: USPS money orders are the ONLY type of money order I accept, and I take them immediately to the post office where they will verify them and cash them. Once I have the cash, I'll ship the item. Does anyone know if all Wells Fargo banks can immediately verify if a Wells Fargo money order is good and then cash it for you free of charge? Greg Farmer - Original Message - From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller If you request a USPS money order you can go to the post office and actually check that the MO is valid and not a phony. Othe MOs may or may not be capable of being verified. On 05/01/2012 08:50 AM, john robles wrote: Actually it is totally understandable why she wouldn't take a money order. There is a huge amount of scamming on Craigslist involving people who claim to be interested in your item and who want to pay by cashier's check or money order. These money orders and cashier's checks are stolen from banks and are altered. Craigslist has a warning about this and about accepting those types of payment. When yuo get them and you send the item off, you find out that the money order or cashier's check is no good and you are stuck. So the seller was probably afraid that this was one of those scams. They are so widespread on Craigslist that I get several offers when I am selling something there. They always begin with a note from the would-be buyer asking if the item is still available. They never state what the item is - like they don;t say Is the phonograph still available? When you answer and say yes, you get another email, usually from a different person, stating Thakn you for your swift reply. I am busy and so cannot come to pick up the ite,m, but will pay you (soe additional sum of money) for your trouble. I will send payment by certified bank check (or money order) and upon receipt I will arrange for my shipper to pick up th item. That is usually how it goes. When anyone asks me it the item is still available, I say yes, but not if you want to pay by certified check or money order. Then I usually don't hear back, or more often I hear Thank you for your response. I will send payment blah blah blah. It's like they never read my response. So this lady was probably afraid it was a counterfeit money order scam. Paypal or cash on pickup is the best way to go to complete the deal. Speaking of scams, though how do you know if you send cash that you will ever get your item? John Robles From: Vinyl Visionsvinyl.visions@live.**com vinyl.visi...@live.com Date: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 8:18 pm Subject: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller To:phono-l@oldcrank.org Another scam related incident - I just won a music box that was a replica of a Thorens machine for the minimum bid of $15.00 - parts missing, it really wasn't worth much more. The seller cancelled the transaction because he/she said that he/she was not comfortable accepting a Wells Fargo money order for payment... like he/she was taking a risk - on $15.00? I was the one taking the risk attempting to send a cash equivalent payment without first receiving the item... I don't get it, except that was a way to get out of the sale. Fortunately, in all of the transactions I have made in the US and Europe, I only got scammed once, even though I have sent cash for payments... just lucky, I guess, except most collectors are honest. __**_ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org __**_ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org __**_ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Victor Junior Reproducer and Other Parts Needed!
It never fails! For three years I held on to a Victor Junior reproducer, thinking I would some day find a machine to put the reproducer on. As this did not materialize, I sold the reproducer a couple of years ago on e-bay. Guess what? I just picked up a beautiful little Victor Junior. Wouldn't ya know it? It had a Brunswick reproducer rigged on it! So..., if any one has a Victor Junior reproducer that they would part with, (name your price). Also looking for a crank escutcheon that would work for a Victor-V. Please contact me off line. jeff...@prevea.com There is a great story behind picking up this small collection in Iowa. Maybe in another post down the road? Regards! Jeff Wisconsin From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org on behalf of David Dazer Sent: Sun 5/6/2012 9:36 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster I enjoyed his description of the drying room where the freshly painted parts cure at room temp. Sounds a lot like my workshop, er, I mean drying room. Too bad he was so nasty to you. D From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org; phonol...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 6, 2012 8:18:05 AM Subject: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster Does anyone know who the sandblaster is who sells the sandblasted painted reproducers on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GORGEOUS-BRASS-EDISON-DIAMOND-DISC-REPRODUCER-COMPLETELY-REBUILT-FREE-WARRANTY-/280875848529 I like how he painted the reproducer with the stylus bar in place, you can see the paint on the bar, very good to allow for freedom of the stylus bar movement. I asked for the serial number on a bronze oxidized reproducer he was selling. These reproducers were made only for the Duncan Stop which he did not know. Edison made three MAIN different oxidized DD reproducers, the final one collectors call gun metal, Edison called it the Antique finish. The first is the copper oxidized which is like the Idelia finish, and the bronze was used for machines such as the W250 and it is always found with the setup for the Duncan Stop. Here is my communication with the sandblaster: Me: What is the serial number? SB: Have you purchased this item or bid on this item? HE KNEW I DID NOT. Me: No I have not purchased or bid on the item, do I have to purchase or bid to ask questions? HE THOUGHT THIS WAS A SMART REPLY, I THOUGHT IT WAS DUMB REPLY TO ASK A QUESTION YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO. SB: Vital information as such goes to the winner--so if you buy it, you get that information. Hey, what's your social? Do I have to know you to get that? Make smartass remarks and you will get them returned. I have time for serious inquiries only...not people trying to be nosy. IF ALL COLLECTORS WERE LIKE THE SANDBLASTER RESEARCH WOULD MUCH MORE DIFFICULT AND THERE WOULD BE A LOT LESS COLLECTORS AS 99.99% WOULD NOT BE COLLECTORS AS 99.99% ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. Me: You are clearly an idiot, serial numbers vital information? I SHOULD NOT HAVE SAID THIS, MY MISTAKE AND I DO FEEL BAD. You probably do not know where the serial number is or that the serial number begins with EM and this reproducer is found only on the machines with a Duncan stop. Do not write back, I wanted to see if the serial number was higher than the five of these I have. I collect based on serial numbers. SB: And if it's not vital, why do you want it? You're the idiot. Go home to your trailer and grab 'ya a tall one. DUNCAN STOP REPRODUCER WERE MADE WHEN DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE SLEEVE IN THE THROAT, THE EARLY ONES HAVE THE SLEEVE. EDISON CONTINUED TO IMPROVE THE DD REPRODUCER SO THE LATER ONES HAVE BETTER SOUND. DURING THE TIME WHEN THE DUNCAN STOP WAS BEING MADE ALL EDISON DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE BENT LIMIT PIN SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN THE DUNCAN STOPPED BEING MADE, IN THE B SERIES OF THE REGULAR DD REPRODUCER. ALL THIS INO I HAVE IS BASED ON PEOPLE SHARING SERIAL NUMBERS. THE ONES WITH THE SLEEVE DO NOT SOUND AS GOOD AS THE LATER ONES. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org http://phono-l.org/ ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org http://phono-l.org/ ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster
Thanks, Dave. I just wondered if he was a collector or an outside 'expert'. Over the years collectors have been wonderful. Steve Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 07:36:29 -0700 From: dda...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster I enjoyed his description of the drying room where the freshly painted parts cure at room temp. Sounds a lot like my workshop, er, I mean drying room. Too bad he was so nasty to you. D From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org; phonol...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 6, 2012 8:18:05 AM Subject: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster Does anyone know who the sandblaster is who sells the sandblasted painted reproducers on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GORGEOUS-BRASS-EDISON-DIAMOND-DISC-REPRODUCER-COMPLETELY-REBUILT-FREE-WARRANTY-/280875848529 I like how he painted the reproducer with the stylus bar in place, you can see the paint on the bar, very good to allow for freedom of the stylus bar movement. I asked for the serial number on a bronze oxidized reproducer he was selling. These reproducers were made only for the Duncan Stop which he did not know. Edison made three MAIN different oxidized DD reproducers, the final one collectors call gun metal, Edison called it the Antique finish. The first is the copper oxidized which is like the Idelia finish, and the bronze was used for machines such as the W250 and it is always found with the setup for the Duncan Stop. Here is my communication with the sandblaster: Me: What is the serial number? SB: Have you purchased this item or bid on this item? HE KNEW I DID NOT. Me: No I have not purchased or bid on the item, do I have to purchase or bid to ask questions? HE THOUGHT THIS WAS A SMART REPLY, I THOUGHT IT WAS DUMB REPLY TO ASK A QUESTION YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO. SB: Vital information as such goes to the winner--so if you buy it, you get that information. Hey, what's your social? Do I have to know you to get that? Make smartass remarks and you will get them returned. I have time for serious inquiries only...not people trying to be nosy. IF ALL COLLECTORS WERE LIKE THE SANDBLASTER RESEARCH WOULD MUCH MORE DIFFICULT AND THERE WOULD BE A LOT LESS COLLECTORS AS 99.99% WOULD NOT BE COLLECTORS AS 99.99% ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. Me: You are clearly an idiot, serial numbers vital information? I SHOULD NOT HAVE SAID THIS, MY MISTAKE AND I DO FEEL BAD. You probably do not know where the serial number is or that the serial number begins with EM and this reproducer is found only on the machines with a Duncan stop. Do not write back, I wanted to see if the serial number was higher than the five of these I have. I collect based on serial numbers. SB: And if it's not vital, why do you want it? You're the idiot. Go home to your trailer and grab 'ya a tall one. DUNCAN STOP REPRODUCER WERE MADE WHEN DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE SLEEVE IN THE THROAT, THE EARLY ONES HAVE THE SLEEVE. EDISON CONTINUED TO IMPROVE THE DD REPRODUCER SO THE LATER ONES HAVE BETTER SOUND. DURING THE TIME WHEN THE DUNCAN STOP WAS BEING MADE ALL EDISON DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE BENT LIMIT PIN SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN THE DUNCAN STOPPED BEING MADE, IN THE B SERIES OF THE REGULAR DD REPRODUCER. ALL THIS INO I HAVE IS BASED ON PEOPLE SHARING SERIAL NUMBERS. THE ONES WITH THE SLEEVE DO NOT SOUND AS GOOD AS THE LATER ONES. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster
Those auctions are amusing - however, I feel sorry for the individuals who are sucked in by his 'salesmanship'. I found his auction for an Edison 'E' key to be particularly entertaining. The key had of course been sandblasted and painted. In his description he stated 'they don't turn up like this'. No, they certainly do not. :-) Dave -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Steven Medved Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 1:02 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster Thanks, Dave. I just wondered if he was a collector or an outside 'expert'. Over the years collectors have been wonderful. Steve Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 07:36:29 -0700 From: dda...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster I enjoyed his description of the drying room where the freshly painted parts cure at room temp. Sounds a lot like my workshop, er, I mean drying room. Too bad he was so nasty to you. D From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org; phonol...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, May 6, 2012 8:18:05 AM Subject: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster Does anyone know who the sandblaster is who sells the sandblasted painted reproducers on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GORGEOUS-BRASS-EDISON-DIAMOND-DISC-REPRODUCER- COMPLETELY-REBUILT-FREE-WARRANTY-/280875848529 I like how he painted the reproducer with the stylus bar in place, you can see the paint on the bar, very good to allow for freedom of the stylus bar movement. I asked for the serial number on a bronze oxidized reproducer he was selling. These reproducers were made only for the Duncan Stop which he did not know. Edison made three MAIN different oxidized DD reproducers, the final one collectors call gun metal, Edison called it the Antique finish. The first is the copper oxidized which is like the Idelia finish, and the bronze was used for machines such as the W250 and it is always found with the setup for the Duncan Stop. Here is my communication with the sandblaster: Me: What is the serial number? SB: Have you purchased this item or bid on this item? HE KNEW I DID NOT. Me: No I have not purchased or bid on the item, do I have to purchase or bid to ask questions? HE THOUGHT THIS WAS A SMART REPLY, I THOUGHT IT WAS DUMB REPLY TO ASK A QUESTION YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO. SB: Vital information as such goes to the winner--so if you buy it, you get that information. Hey, what's your social? Do I have to know you to get that? Make smartass remarks and you will get them returned. I have time for serious inquiries only...not people trying to be nosy. IF ALL COLLECTORS WERE LIKE THE SANDBLASTER RESEARCH WOULD MUCH MORE DIFFICULT AND THERE WOULD BE A LOT LESS COLLECTORS AS 99.99% WOULD NOT BE COLLECTORS AS 99.99% ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. Me: You are clearly an idiot, serial numbers vital information? I SHOULD NOT HAVE SAID THIS, MY MISTAKE AND I DO FEEL BAD. You probably do not know where the serial number is or that the serial number begins with EM and this reproducer is found only on the machines with a Duncan stop. Do not write back, I wanted to see if the serial number was higher than the five of these I have. I collect based on serial numbers. SB: And if it's not vital, why do you want it? You're the idiot. Go home to your trailer and grab 'ya a tall one. DUNCAN STOP REPRODUCER WERE MADE WHEN DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE SLEEVE IN THE THROAT, THE EARLY ONES HAVE THE SLEEVE. EDISON CONTINUED TO IMPROVE THE DD REPRODUCER SO THE LATER ONES HAVE BETTER SOUND. DURING THE TIME WHEN THE DUNCAN STOP WAS BEING MADE ALL EDISON DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE BENT LIMIT PIN SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN THE DUNCAN STOPPED BEING MADE, IN THE B SERIES OF THE REGULAR DD REPRODUCER. ALL THIS INO I HAVE IS BASED ON PEOPLE SHARING SERIAL NUMBERS. THE ONES WITH THE SLEEVE DO NOT SOUND AS GOOD AS THE LATER ONES. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
