Re: [Phono-L] The New His Master's Voice Instrument
The HMV 162 (and others) had a sheet metal saxophone horn - it ran down to the bottom of the cabinet then back up to the horn grille. There's a photo on this page: http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2t=2906start=10 ... The 203 Re-Entrant horn was also made of sheet metal, which gave it a high-frequency response advantage over the rough wooden Victor Orthophonic type horns. If you can access YooToob, search for the different model numbers you should find some demonstrations. Most seem to have had the No.4 reproducer, so they won't be quite up to the Orthophonic standard. - Original Message - From: Jim Cartwright jim...@earthlink.net Was looking at a couple of HMV record sleeves that promote the just introduced electrical recordings (though the term isn't used) the statement Listen to the bass! but instruments illustrated on one of the sleeves are in rather small cabinets with horn openings no larger than pre-Orthophonic Victrolas in comparable sized cabinets, especially the Table Grand Model (No. 127) but also the Cabinet Grand Model (No. 162). Could these have had somewhat larger folded horns that could come anywhere near to reproducing the bass response of the earliest electrical recordings? If not, how could the listener, Listen to the Bass! as the copy writer admonished?(The other sleeve shows a large 'Re-Entrant' Model (No. 203) with horn opening filling the entire front of the cabinet which would probably be the HMV equivalent of the Victrola Orthophonic Credenza.) What kind of horns, tonearms soundboxes were embodied in the HMV No. 127 162 how do these perform when playing earliest electrical recordings? ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] The New His Master's Voice Instrument
The No.4 reproducer was made for those who could not afford to update to the new Orthophonic machines so they could buy and enjoy the electrically recorded records. From: ediso...@verizon.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 05:10:01 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The New His Master's Voice Instrument The HMV 162 (and others) had a sheet metal saxophone horn - it ran down to the bottom of the cabinet then back up to the horn grille. There's a photo on this page: http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2t=2906start=10 ... The 203 Re-Entrant horn was also made of sheet metal, which gave it a high-frequency response advantage over the rough wooden Victor Orthophonic type horns. If you can access YooToob, search for the different model numbers you should find some demonstrations. Most seem to have had the No.4 reproducer, so they won't be quite up to the Orthophonic standard. - Original Message - From: Jim Cartwright jim...@earthlink.net Was looking at a couple of HMV record sleeves that promote the just introduced electrical recordings (though the term isn't used) the statement Listen to the bass! but instruments illustrated on one of the sleeves are in rather small cabinets with horn openings no larger than pre-Orthophonic Victrolas in comparable sized cabinets, especially the Table Grand Model (No. 127) but also the Cabinet Grand Model (No. 162). Could these have had somewhat larger folded horns that could come anywhere near to reproducing the bass response of the earliest electrical recordings? If not, how could the listener, Listen to the Bass! as the copy writer admonished? (The other sleeve shows a large 'Re-Entrant' Model (No. 203) with horn opening filling the entire front of the cabinet which would probably be the HMV equivalent of the Victrola Orthophonic Credenza.) What kind of horns, tonearms soundboxes were embodied in the HMV No. 127 162 how do these perform when playing earliest electrical recordings? ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Questions about Edison Standard machine
Recently I saw a working Edison Standard (model B I think) machine at the Dewitt County Museum. It has a few odd things about it: It has a carriage that has no lift lever. This carriage has teeth on the bottom which engage a spring-loaded rack that's bolted to the carriage-rest. When the rack is moved via its button, the carriage lifts and drops back a couple of grooves. Is this the language-teaching setup? What's odd about it is that there's no way to rest the carriage in the up position, which makes changing records a real hassle. This machine has an end gate, and it also has 2/4 gearing although I can't get it to budge so far out of the 2M gearing. It only has a model H reproducer, which the museum is using to play Gold Moulded 2M records! This machine has the funky early half-a-gearcase-cover So, is this carriage perhaps just missing its left lever? Seems to me that the rack assembly might need to be removed from the carriage rest, and maybe a different carriage substituted, (one that has a lift lever or the button). I am quite familiar with the Standard model D, but those earlier ones such as this one the museum has, are sort of new to me. It has the speed adjustment on the top of the bedplate. Any ideas about what the best thing to do might be to get that carriage so that it can at least rest in the up position? Thanks, Chuck Richards $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Questions about Edison Standard machine
Sounds like an ICS language machine. I have a couple of them. Dave From: chuck richards chuc...@all2easy.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 8:52 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Questions about Edison Standard machine Recently I saw a working Edison Standard (model B I think) machine at the Dewitt County Museum. It has a few odd things about it: It has a carriage that has no lift lever. This carriage has teeth on the bottom which engage a spring-loaded rack that's bolted to the carriage-rest. When the rack is moved via its button, the carriage lifts and drops back a couple of grooves. Is this the language-teaching setup? What's odd about it is that there's no way to rest the carriage in the up position, which makes changing records a real hassle. This machine has an end gate, and it also has 2/4 gearing although I can't get it to budge so far out of the 2M gearing. It only has a model H reproducer, which the museum is using to play Gold Moulded 2M records! This machine has the funky early half-a-gearcase-cover So, is this carriage perhaps just missing its left lever? Seems to me that the rack assembly might need to be removed from the carriage rest, and maybe a different carriage substituted, (one that has a lift lever or the button). I am quite familiar with the Standard model D, but those earlier ones such as this one the museum has, are sort of new to me. It has the speed adjustment on the top of the bedplate. Any ideas about what the best thing to do might be to get that carriage so that it can at least rest in the up position? Thanks, Chuck Richards $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Questions about Edison Standard machine
I also have an Edison ICS phonograph (has white International Correspondence School nameplate on the front). It's an Edison Standard Model C. It has the toothed lever for moving the reproducer back a few grooves. It also has a lift lever on the left side, held onto the carriage with a screw. If you do a Google search for ICS Edison Phonograph you'll see number of Edison Standards with the levers on either the left or right side. Jim Nichol On Aug 1, 2013, at 9:44 PM, David Dazer dda...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Sounds like an ICS language machine. I have a couple of them. Dave From: chuck richards chuc...@all2easy.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 8:52 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Questions about Edison Standard machine Recently I saw a working Edison Standard (model B I think) machine at the Dewitt County Museum. It has a few odd things about it: It has a carriage that has no lift lever. This carriage has teeth on the bottom which engage a spring-loaded rack that's bolted to the carriage-rest. When the rack is moved via its button, the carriage lifts and drops back a couple of grooves. Is this the language-teaching setup? What's odd about it is that there's no way to rest the carriage in the up position, which makes changing records a real hassle. This machine has an end gate, and it also has 2/4 gearing although I can't get it to budge so far out of the 2M gearing. It only has a model H reproducer, which the museum is using to play Gold Moulded 2M records! This machine has the funky early half-a-gearcase-cover So, is this carriage perhaps just missing its left lever? Seems to me that the rack assembly might need to be removed from the carriage rest, and maybe a different carriage substituted, (one that has a lift lever or the button). I am quite familiar with the Standard model D, but those earlier ones such as this one the museum has, are sort of new to me. It has the speed adjustment on the top of the bedplate. Any ideas about what the best thing to do might be to get that carriage so that it can at least rest in the up position? Thanks, Chuck Richards $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
