Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard

2017-04-14 Thread Randy Larson via Phono-L 
West Salem Wisconsin, thanks
Randy

On Apr 14, 2017 7:42 PM, "Ward Sandstrom via Phono-L" 
wrote:

Where is the machine located
Thanks

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On Apr 14, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Randy Larson via Phono-L 
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I sincerely apologize for my poor eyesight, I was convinced this was an E,
but putting my flashlight on it, it was clearly an FYI, I'm so sorry for
the controversy. Here are the serial numbers and Model number, the flash of
my camera making it clearer.

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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Standard

2017-04-14 Thread Ward Sandstrom via Phono-L 
Where is the machine located
Thanks

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> On Apr 14, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Randy Larson via Phono-L  
> wrote:
> 
> I sincerely apologize for my poor eyesight, I was convinced this was an E, 
> but putting my flashlight on it, it was clearly an FYI, I'm so sorry for the 
> controversy. Here are the serial numbers and Model number, the flash of my 
> camera making it clearer. 
> 
> <20170414_102201.jpg>
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison E

2017-04-14 Thread SN Medved via Phono-L 
I thought it would be an F, Edison used the F to get rid of a lot of left over 
parts.  I have seen a Home with a Triumph ID plate and a Home serial number, 
and during 1908 for a period of time Edison made the B, C and D all at the same 
time so you see a lot of variety.  I have seen a Standard D with a B ID plate 
and the tall B case, a maroon Gem with the block GEM decal, along with other 
variety and factory defects.



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I re-looked at my standard with the changed ID tag.  It now appears that the 
letter which looked like an "E"on further inspection is actually an "F".  The 
machine has a small top-mount reproducer ring. This fits with the 2/4 gearing 
and cygnet horn.  One wonders if original buyers were ever sophisticated enough 
to recognize the differences between models with all the factory changes. 
However, I would assume they would have known what they wanted given the 
options of 2 and 4 minute reproduction.
Art Heller


In a message dated 4/13/2017 10:09:50 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, 
phono-l@oldcrank.org writes:
The picture that Randy posted looks identical to the Model F pictured in the 
Frow book.  It says the E had a side mount carriage arm with large opening for 
a Model N reproducer, whereas the F had top mount carriage arm with a small 
opening for C, H, R, or S reproducers. It says the Model E had a straight 
paneled horn with a front mount crane, whereas the Model F had a cygnet horn 
with a back mount crane bracket.

Also, the Standard Models D, E, and F all had both 2 and 4 minute gearing. 
HOWEVER, on the Model E, the mechanism was blocked to keep it in 4-minute mode 
all the time. If Randy found it was stuck in 4-minute mode, this would support 
the E nameplate.  Otherwise, everything else points to a Model F. Of course, 
you never know what really happened at the Edison factory.

Jim Nichol

On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:29 PM, harvey kravitz via Phono-L  
wrote:

It's probably a Model D Standard. These were 2.4 min. The model E was strictly 
a  4 min. machine.
Harvey Kravitz



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I’d love to get the cylinder cabinet but tricky to get to Australia.
Jamie


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Subject: [Phono-L] Edison E

I'm selling this for a lady that recently lost her house in a fire with no 
insurance. This was in storage and spared. It's an Standard E . It has the 2&4 
conversion and a new H reproducer. The motor was cleaned and new spring 
installed in 2004. The base of the Cygnet horn has been restored. This comes 
with a cylinder cabinet, all in excellent condition (except for the upper half 
of the horn). All proceeds go to helping this lady get back on her feet. The
chrome Cygnet horn support is also new. It plays beautifully. I can send more 
pics upon request. A phono friend thought it would go between 7 to 900 dollars. 
Let me know if interested. Thanks
Randy Larson

Re: [Phono-L] Edison E

2017-04-14 Thread harvey kravitz via Phono-L 
OK, That makes sense. George Frow's book really explains the differences.


  From: Randy Larson via Phono-L 
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Sorry for the mix up, but I took a picture of the serial plate, and what looked 
to me as an E is an F model. 
On Apr 13, 2017 11:59 PM, "Randy Larson"  wrote:

It has an H with a small reproducer
On Apr 13, 2017 10:01 PM, "harvey kravitz via Phono-L"  
wrote:

Does it have an N reproducer and a large carriage?

  From: Randy Larson via Phono-L 
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It states on the ID plate it's an E. 
On Apr 13, 2017 8:43 PM, "Bob via Phono-L"  wrote:

Where is it located? Thanks In a message dated 4/13/2017 9:36:18 P.M. Eastern 
Daylight Time, phono-l@oldcrank.org writes:
  It's probably a Model D Standard. These were 2.4 min. The model E was 
strictly a  4 min. machine. Harvey Kravitz 

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I’d love to get the cylinder cabinet but tricky to get to Australia. Jamie  
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Subject: [Phono-L] Edison E    I'm selling this for a lady that recently lost 
her house in a fire with no insurance. This was in storage and spared. It's an 
Standard E . It has the 2&4 conversion and a new H reproducer. The motor was 
cleaned and new spring installed in 2004. The base of the Cygnet horn has been 
restored. This comes with a cylinder cabinet, all in excellent condition 
(except for the upper half of the horn). All proceeds go to helping this lady 
get back on her feet. The    chrome Cygnet horn support is also new. It plays 
beautifully. I can send more pics upon request. A phono friend thought it would 
go between 7 to 900 dollars. Let me know if interested. Thanks  Randy Larson   
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison E

2017-04-14 Thread Randy Larson via Phono-L 
Sorry for the mix up, but I took a picture of the serial plate, and what
looked to me as an E is an F model.

On Apr 13, 2017 11:59 PM, "Randy Larson"  wrote:

> It has an H with a small reproducer
>
> On Apr 13, 2017 10:01 PM, "harvey kravitz via Phono-L" <
> phono-l@oldcrank.org> wrote:
>
>> Does it have an N reproducer and a large carriage?
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Randy Larson via Phono-L 
>> *To:* Antique Phonograph List 
>> *Cc:* Randy Larson 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 7:29 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Edison E
>>
>> It states on the ID plate it's an E.
>>
>> On Apr 13, 2017 8:43 PM, "Bob via Phono-L"  wrote:
>>
>> Where is it located? Thanks
>>
>> In a message dated 4/13/2017 9:36:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> phono-l@oldcrank.org writes:
>>
>> It's probably a Model D Standard. These were 2.4 min. The model E was
>> strictly a  4 min. machine.
>> Harvey Kravitz
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Jamie Kelly via Phono-L 
>> *To:* 'Antique Phonograph List' 
>> *Cc:* Jamie Kelly 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 13, 2017 6:24 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Edison E
>>
>> I’d love to get the cylinder cabinet but tricky to get to Australia.
>> Jamie
>>
>>
>> *From:* Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-bounces@ oldcrank.org
>> ] *On Behalf Of *Randy Larson via Phono-L
>> *Sent:* Friday, 14 April 2017 10:27 AM
>> *To:* Antique Phonograph List 
>> *Cc:* Randy Larson 
>> *Subject:* [Phono-L] Edison E
>>
>> I'm selling this for a lady that recently lost her house in a fire with
>> no insurance. This was in storage and spared. It's an Standard E . It has
>> the 2&4 conversion and a new H reproducer. The motor was cleaned and new
>> spring installed in 2004. The base of the Cygnet horn has been restored.
>> This comes with a cylinder cabinet, all in excellent condition (except for
>> the upper half of the horn). All proceeds go to helping this lady get back
>> on her feet. Thechrome Cygnet horn support is also new. It plays
>> beautifully. I can send more pics upon request. A phono friend thought it
>> would go between 7 to 900 dollars. Let me know if interested. Thanks
>> Randy Larson
>>
>> [image:
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