Re: [Phono-L] Fairy Phonograph Lamp - Endlessgraph Co.-Update on Progress
Has anyone on the list ever found a source for odd-sized paper record sleeves? I collect home acetate recordings and the common sizes are 6.5 and 8. The common sizes for commercial releases as you know are 10, 7 and 12 so everything I seem to be able to find is too big or too small. Any suggestions? Short of cutting and gluing them myself? -- Thatcher Graham Senior Field Engineer Mediaguide ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] RARE Model Triumph - and reproducers
to brass to pot metal to brass. The B to K shared serial numbers so just over 2.12 million were made. The dome top recorder shared serial numbers so just over 612,000 were made. Up to at least 10,000 the recorder diaphragm was glass, the first recorder stylus holder was aluminum with tiny arms, it went to small wings, then to the common shape. The common shape went to copper, then nickel plated copper. The final two minute recorder has the same holder as the four minute. The recessed top recorders, reproducers, and speakers shared serial numbers and just over 212,000 were made. Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 17:59:38 -0800 From: onatorr...@yahoo.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] RARE Model Triumph - LOL, LOL What model Triumph is it? The model F would have come with a Oak Music Master cygnet horn but from what I have seen and read about the earlier model's D and E came with 11 panel Cygnet horns. They Horn looks great as does the machine. Kenneth From: Vinyl Visionsvinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 8:29 PM Subject: [Phono-L] RARE Model Triumph - LOL, LOL Only $5,250 for this RARE model Triumph... https://www.solvangantiques.com/store/products-page/phonographs/rare-model-triumph-phonograph/ ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org -- Thatcher Graham Senior Field Engineer ph. 610-578-0800 x214 cell: 484-354-6918 fx. 610-578-0804 Mediaguide 640 Freedom Business Ctr. STE 305 King of Prussia, PA 19406 http://protocol.by/Thatcher ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] frozen Edison Home pot metal bearing
Sulfuric acid reacts with most metals and definitely iron. Sounds dubious. On 7/6/2011 2:01 PM, Ron L'Herault wrote: I read somewhere about a technique involving sulfuric acid dripped into the oil hole to dissolve the pot metal. The acid is not supposed to bother paint or cast iron if I remember correctly. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of mdsor...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:16 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] frozen Edison Home pot metal bearing Here is another issue I am dealing with again. Who has the best idea for freeing up a frozen bearing on an Edison Home Model D without messing up the mandrel, the mandrel shaft, gearing, etc.? I have asked this before, and have received all sorts of answers--from heating with a blow torch to freezing in the freezer. I have a tough one right now that I don't want to mess up. How about it friends? Who can come up with the best way to get that bearing out? Thanks for any suggestions! Mike Sorter Riverside, CA ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- Thatcher Graham Senior Field Engineer ph. 610-578-0800 x214 cell: 484-354-6918 fx. 610-578-0804 Mediaguide 640 Freedom Business Ctr. STE 305 King of Prussia, PA 19406 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle?
Greg, I have to point out that while $3,00 sounds like a lot, that cash is off set by paying the equivalent of about $1 a gallon for gas. For example: I gas up once a week, at a cost of about $30. That's over $1,500 the first year, a total of $4,680 in 3 years. Even if the batteries all die in 3 years, I came out ahead. But granted. 3 grand is a helluva tune up. Greg Bogantz wrote: The elephant in the room that NOBODY ever talks about with these hybrid cars is the cost to replace the battery pack. Anybody who has ever owned a rechargeable anything knows that the battery is only good for about 3 years, advertising claims to the contrary. The published cost of the battery pack for the Toyota Prius is about $3,000. Anyone who has any thought of buying a used Prius had better be prepared to shuck out another 3 grand very quickly to actually keep the thing on the road. And the estimated battery cost of the new Chebby Volt is about 8 GRAND! No wonder the car is set to retail for 40 grand. Until there is an economical way to lease or trade in these battery packs, the whole economical, money saving baloney about operating one of these cars is just a pipe dream. It makes good advertising malarkey, but owners of these cars are in for a rude awakening sooner rather than later. Greg Bogantz - Original Message - From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle? Are there charging stations for these types of cars? I don't know how long they take to charge, but I would imagine at some point there will need to be places where they can be charged publicly. 100 miles is not a lot of ground to cover when you are scouring the countryside for phonographs! John --- On Mon, 3/8/10, DanKj ediso...@verizon.net wrote: From: DanKj ediso...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle? To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 10:57 AM They say 100 miles under ideal conditions. That's more than I drive each week, so such a car would suit me - except that I have no driveway so no place to plug it in ! The 'LEAF doesn't look Victrola-sized, either - Original Message - From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle? I just saw a commercial last night for Nissan's new all-electric vehicle. I wonder how far you get on a charge.. John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- Thatcher Graham Senior Field Engineer ph. 610-578-0800 x214 cell: 484-354-6918 fx. 610-578-0804 Mediaguide 640 Freedom Business Ctr. STE 305 King of Prussia, PA 19406 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle?
If you're going to gripe about lead, remember that the iron, steel and aluminum in all cars also mined, shipped and assembled and all leave a big dirty crater behind like all modern electronic and mechanical devices. I think the last clean machine on earth may be the old crank phonograph. Tom Jordan wrote: Do some reading on the environmental impact of producing the batteries for these cars. The raw materials that are taken from the planet leave the surrounding area a toxic waste dump. Those materials are then shipped to the opposite side of the world in ships where the batteries are built. Then they are shipped back to the United States in the same ships to be put into the cars. What do we do with the spent batteries once they are replaced? Landfills? No savings is realized whatsoever and the planet is ravaged in the process. I put my hopes into REALLY energy efficient gas or diesel vehicles or hydrogen. They are possible, but manufacturers aren't motivated to make them as consumers continue to buy the old technology. Consumers simply need to stop purchasing vehicles that pollute and vote with their pocketbooks. Greedy corporations will come around when their bottom lines are ravaged. It's the only way to grab their attention and get real change. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Thatcher Graham Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 7:06 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle? Greg, I have to point out that while $3,00 sounds like a lot, that cash is off set by paying the equivalent of about $1 a gallon for gas. For example: I gas up once a week, at a cost of about $30. That's over $1,500 the first year, a total of $4,680 in 3 years. Even if the batteries all die in 3 years, I came out ahead. But granted. 3 grand is a helluva tune up. Greg Bogantz wrote: The elephant in the room that NOBODY ever talks about with these hybrid cars is the cost to replace the battery pack. Anybody who has ever owned a rechargeable anything knows that the battery is only good for about 3 years, advertising claims to the contrary. The published cost of the battery pack for the Toyota Prius is about $3,000. Anyone who has any thought of buying a used Prius had better be prepared to shuck out another 3 grand very quickly to actually keep the thing on the road. And the estimated battery cost of the new Chebby Volt is about 8 GRAND! No wonder the car is set to retail for 40 grand. Until there is an economical way to lease or trade in these battery packs, the whole economical, money saving baloney about operating one of these cars is just a pipe dream. It makes good advertising malarkey, but owners of these cars are in for a rude awakening sooner rather than later. Greg Bogantz - Original Message - From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle? Are there charging stations for these types of cars? I don't know how long they take to charge, but I would imagine at some point there will need to be places where they can be charged publicly. 100 miles is not a lot of ground to cover when you are scouring the countryside for phonographs! John --- On Mon, 3/8/10, DanKj ediso...@verizon.net wrote: From: DanKj ediso...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle? To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 10:57 AM They say 100 miles under ideal conditions. That's more than I drive each week, so such a car would suit me - except that I have no driveway so no place to plug it in ! The 'LEAF doesn't look Victrola-sized, either - Original Message - From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle? I just saw a commercial last night for Nissan's new all-electric vehicle. I wonder how far you get on a charge.. John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Hawaiian Music
I have a lot of Hawaiian but no DD --Thatcher john9...@pacbell.net wrote: I do, but selected titles, not just anything that's Hawai'ian. Thanks! John Robles --Original Message-- From: Bruce Mercer Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: Antique Phonograph List ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Hawaiian Music Sent: Jan 28, 2010 8:31 AM Do either of you guys collect Hawaiian on DD? I can round up a bunch of it, even 52000 series. Bruce ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Hawaiian Music
78s 45s as well. john9...@pacbell.net wrote: Cylinders or 78s? John --Original Message-- From: Thatcher Graham Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: Antique Phonograph List ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Hawaiian Music Sent: Jan 28, 2010 12:43 PM I have a lot of Hawaiian but no DD --Thatcher john9...@pacbell.net wrote: I do, but selected titles, not just anything that's Hawai'ian. Thanks! John Robles --Original Message-- From: Bruce Mercer Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: Antique Phonograph List ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Hawaiian Music Sent: Jan 28, 2010 8:31 AM Do either of you guys collect Hawaiian on DD? I can round up a bunch of it, even 52000 series. Bruce ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- Thatcher Graham Senior Field Engineer ph. 610-578-0800 x214 cell: 484-354-6918 fx. 610-578-0804 Mediaguide 640 Freedom Business Ctr. STE 305 King of Prussia, PA 19406 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] transcriptions discs
Anyone here ever hire out to transfer an old transcription disc? I've got one here that'll need a lot of work. -- Thatcher ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] transcriptions discs
Robert Wright volunteered to help me out with this first one. He reacted to the story about the same as I did so I'll share with the group. The short version of the story is that I recently acquired a transcription recording of a pair of country yodelers, the Miccolis sisters from 1940 on KMOX. I did a little research and found out that one of the sisters is still alive. I contacted her and she told me that sad story that her 78s had broken, and she no longer even had a copy of her own music. I told her I'd find a way to help her out. So, I want to make a copy of the transcription I have, then try to track down the four 78s she put out on DeLuxe. That's her whole catalog. It's a small project for an obscure musician but her story really appealed to me. -- Thatcher zucc...@comcast.net wrote: I have the facility to transfer up to 18 lateral and vertical transcriptions. What do mean ... that'll need a lot of work? What kind of disc is it? What size? Shellac, lacquer aluminum, lacquer glass, home recording, vinyl? Regards, Bill Zucca - Original Message - From: Thatcher Graham thatcher@ mediaguide .com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 10:32:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Phono-L] transcriptions discs Anyone here ever hire out to transfer an old transcription disc? I've got one here that'll need a lot of work. -- Thatcher ___ Phono-L mailing list http ://phono-l. oldcrank .org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs
My experience with UPS is that they wont pay out any insurance claim unless they impale it with a forklift. They smashed a Micropoise tone arm on me a few months back. I never got a dollar from that even though the box had been flattened. And yes, the forklift example is real. -Thatcher The Farmers wrote: I agree with this too. Although I'm not sure that it's easier to collect from FedEx since I've never had any damage from them to find out. FedEx also has much shorter lines to stand in for some strange reason. Greg Farmer - Original Message - From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: phonolist phonol...@yahoogroups.com; Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 3:35 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs I highly recommend if anyone purchases a phono that the seller says will be sent UPS, ask them to send it Fed Ex ground. I have had 2 triumphs and an order of auto parts damaged by UPS. UPS is wonderful for small, light parts, but larger ones seem to get dropper or crushed by their automatic alligator mouth sorting system. Save a phono, use Fed Ex. Also Fed Ex is much easier to collect from if there is an accident. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html --- ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Rek-O-Kut Question
I'm looking for a gear recommendation. I recently picked up a rek-O-Kut Rondine Jr-37 with the intention of using it to rip some of my 78s to FLAC. I already have a phono pre-amp and the turntable is in decent working order. But I need to put in an appropriate cartridge. I intend to rip both shellac 78s, the later vinylite 78s and hopefully... some of my more delicate transcription discs. I am pretty sure those will be different cartridges. can anyone recommend something? -- Thatcher ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] mystery record
I bought a box of 45s in Canada, in it was a 7-inch one-sided 78rpm record. image here: http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o13/josefritz/img113.jpg I can easily find references to Victor 2995, recorded July 13, 1904. But this is labeled GRAM-O-PHONE... clearly a different record. Can anyone fill me in on this? -- Thatcher
[Phono-L] mystery record
a subsidiary company, His Master's Voice, introduced the 216000 series, devoted to Canadian recordings. Later, an exclusively French-Canadian series was initiated in the HMV 263000 series. By 1920, the majority of the Berliner Gram-o-phone Company's records was recorded and pressed in Canada. Victor was vexed by this situation and asserted what must have been considerable pressure to displace Herbert Berliner from his position of control. How it was achieved will remain a mystery but, in 1921, Herbert Berliner resigned from the Berliner Gram-o-phone Company and departed for the Compo Company in Lachine, Quebec, which he had established independently in 1918 to manufacture records for other recording labels. His younger brother Edgar undertook the presidency and management of Berliner; the HMV series was phased out and replaced with Victor recordings. In 1924, Victor acquired controlling interest in the Berliner Gram-o-phone Company, changing its name to the Victor Talking Machine Company of Canada. Edgar remained president but the other directors were also active directors of the American company. http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/obj/m2/f1/nlc006573-v6.jpg http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/obj/m2/f1/nlc006573-v6.jpg Source http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/gramophone/m2-150-e.php?uid=m2-nlc006573uidc=recKey http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/obj/m2/f1/nlc004286-v6.jpg http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/obj/m2/f1/nlc004286-v6.jpg Source http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/gramophone/m2-150-e.php?uid=m2-nlc004286uidc=recKey Advertisment for The Compo Company's new record pressing plant in Lachine, Quebec, /Canadian Music Trades Journal/, October 1919 Edgar Berliner, circa 1921 Even the formidable Victor Co. could not stand against the increasing predominance of radio in the sound recording business and, in 1929, RCA (Radio Corporation of America) merged with Victor, including the Victor Talking Machine of Canada, to create RCA Victor. Emile Berliner died the same year, at the age of 78, and the following year Edgar Berliner resigned from the presidency of Victor of Canada, severing the family's last tie to the company, and effectively ending the first era of recorded sound in Canada. 1 http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/gramophone/m2-3005-e.html#bb The whereabouts of the original cylinder, made on September 11, 1888, are unknown, but a re-recording was made in 1935. It's only a deal if it's where /you/ want to go. Find your travel deal *here* http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547. It's only a deal if it's where /you/ want to go. Find your travel deal *here* http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547. -- Thatcher Graham Senior Field Engineer ph. 610-578-0800 x214 cell: 484-354-6918 fx. 610-578-0804 Mediaguide 640 Freedom Business Ctr. STE 305 King of Prussia, PA 19406
[Phono-L] not a restorationist, more like a blacksmith/butcher...
I found his struggle kind of inspiring. To take on the project at that level will be educational if nothing else. My understanding is that the box shown is temporary, while he repairs the motor. He intends to build a new cabinet from scratch. My Grafanola only needed two small parts replaced. I really learned nothing about it in the process. Bob wrote: This guy obviously has no clue. He's spending all kind of time to restore parts that are relatively easy and cheap plus he built a case that will not enhance what he has already done. He could have bought a complete working Columbia flat top, which I assume is what he is building, for about $100. If any of you know him I think you should gently educate him. RMV - Original Message - From: Peter Fraser pjfraser at alamedanet.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l at oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 2:20 AM Subject: [Phono-L] not a restorationist, more like a blacksmith/butcher... ...with too much time on his hands! On May 12, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Thatcher Graham wrote: I can recommend this as a fine read. A gentleman I know is attempting to build a phonograph starting from a box of parts. He's not a restorationist, but he's a good carpenter. http://strudelandshotguns.blogspot.com/ ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- Thatcher Graham Senior Field Engineer ph. 610-578-0800 x214 cell: 484-354-6918 fx. 610-578-0804 Mediaguide 1000 Chesterbrook Blvd. STE 150 Berwyn, PA 19312
[Phono-L] edisonic vs. dance?
I can recommend this as a fine read. A gentleman I know is attempting to build a phonograph starting from a box of parts. He's not a restorationist, but he's a good carpenter. http://strudelandshotguns.blogspot.com/
[Phono-L] threaded needles
Sorry about that, I could have been more specific. A sabot could be employed to fit together parts (needle to needle bar etc) and would avoid the problems of the threaded needle, the delicate nature of fine threads, cross threading.. etc. There's a couple different ways to implement, I'm sure. But there are engineers here with more practical experience that might have already disregarded the idea. It has short comings. For example the vibrations /might /shake loose any sabot no matter how tightly fitted. That's really beyond my competence and experience in fabrication . -Thatcher wilenz...@bellsouth.net wrote: Yes it is. Google sabot and go to Wikipedia for detailed description. Then you can figure out how it might apply to a needle holder. Ray - Original Message - From: Ron L lhera...@bu.edu To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 4:01 PM Subject: RE: [Phono-L] threaded needles Isn't sabot a French word for boot? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Thatcher Graham Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:17 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] threaded needles As an engineer I could not help but to fixate on this threaded needle idea. I agree that threading needles solves the mass issue hence the instinctive appeal, but the difficult manufacture is equally discouraging. As an alternative, have you considered a sabot? -Thatcher Jon Noring wrote: Greg wrote: Threading the needle shank and having it screw into the needle bar is an option. I hadn't considered that before, but it would pretty well solve the extra mass problem. But it would make the needles pretty involved to manufacture. I'll keep it in mind. Yes, it would be involved if all the needles are threaded by hand or in small numbers, especially at the diameter being considered. It is intriguing to consider using a very fine threaded rod, if even manufactured in the desired material(s). One would have to grind and polish to create the tip geometry. Which brings up the idea that if a needle is to be especially manufactured, one could consider tipping it with a different material that can be specially shaped (such as spherical or elliptical with no sharp edges at all. It is my understanding that most damage to grooves is due to a tip which is no longer smooth. Maybe the tip could be made from a material of the same hardness as the grit used in shellac discs (is it corundum?) to wear down the needle. Just thinking outside the box... Jon ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] open question
I have a number of 78s that are not shellac or at least do not appear to be. In many cases (depending on brand) their labels indicate they are made of Metrolite I've read that Mercury used Merco Plastic MGM used Mercolite and Savoy used Sav-o-Flex. Do these have the same resilience as my shellac 78s? I am concerned that normal play will wear them more quickly. If they are made of a a PVC/ENR blend that is probably the case. -- Thatcher Metrolite, Merco Plastic, and Sav-o-flex! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] OT - Ebay rebellion
I got a notice from ebay a week or so ago about the impending changes. It looks like I may want to curb my ebay selling. The idea that buyers could be immune from bad feedback is ridiculous and the new fees will be brutal. -Thatcher john robles wrote: I have left negative feedback for buyers - has something changed?? Albert cen...@comcast.net wrote: wondered about this too. What is Ebays rationale for not allowing sellers to leave negative feed back on buyers? can somebody comment? Al Menashe - Original Message - From: Eric Boyles 66p...@cox.net To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 4:40 PM Subject: [Phono-L] OT - Ebay rebellion Looks like there is a big push back on the upcoming Ebay changes.. http://money.cnn.com/2008/01/31/smbusiness/ebay_fee_hike.fsb/index.htm?postversion=2008013116 It appears there is a orchestrated event asking sellers not to list and buyers not to bid during the week of Feb 20-27. It may get interesting.. Eric ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/955 - Release Date: 8/15/2007 4:55 PM
