Re: [Phono-L] New collector in Los Angeles

[charles smith via Phono-L]

Hi Steve- Please give him this email address. It would be a pleasure to 
correspond with him. Charlie

On Sat, 5/25/19, SN Medved via Phono-L  wrote:

 Subject: [Phono-L] New collector in Los Angeles
 To: "phono-l@oldcrank.org" 
 Cc: "SN Medved" , "phonolist" 
 Date: Saturday, May 25, 2019, 8:35 PM
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 Greeting,
 
 
 
 
 
 There is a young man (around 30) who lives in Los Angeles
 who is interested in phonographs.  He has an Amberola
 30, I just rebuilt his reproducer.  Is anyone in the
 area interested in meeting with him?  If so send me an
 email off list.  He is interested in
  meeting other collectors and hopefully he will join APS.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Steve Medved
 
 
 
 
 
 steve_nor...@msn.com
 
 
 
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Re: [Phono-L] C-4 DD stylus

[charles smith via Phono-L]

Ron- I think the electric pick up Edison reproducers have a stylus cross bar 
that has a hole in the center of it to accept a steel needle. Charlie 

On Fri, 2/16/18, Ron L'Herault via Phono-L  wrote:

 Subject: [Phono-L] C-4 DD stylus
 To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com, "'Antique Phonograph List'" 

 Cc: "Ron L'Herault" 
 Date: Friday, February 16, 2018, 3:20 PM
 
 Could the stylus in the
 attached image be for an Edison C-4 to allow it to play
 Diamond Discs?
  Ron
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Re: [Phono-L] looking for a few cylinders

[charles smith via Phono-L]

Please send me your list. I may be able to help. Charlie

On Mon, 9/11/17, Richard Rubin via Phono-L  wrote:

 Subject: [Phono-L] looking for a few cylinders
 To: "phono-l@oldcrank.org" 
 Cc: "Richard Rubin" 
 Date: Monday, September 11, 2017, 10:50 AM
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 Hi, everyone.  I'm looking for a few specific
 cylinders to replace some that have broken. If you think you
 might be able to help me out, please email me directly and I
 will share the titles. Thank you!
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Hinges

[charles smith via Phono-L]

Try the "Old House Parts company", in Maine. 

On Tue, 5/2/17, John Selph via Phono-L  wrote:

 Subject: [Phono-L] Hinges
 To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" 
 Cc: "John Selph" 
 Date: Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 5:59 PM
 
 I have another phonograph,
 and Artophone, 4 door, Console that I am working on and
 I’d like to get some reproduction, or good
 functioning, hinges to replace the broken ones I have.Does anyone have ideas or
 recommendations as to where I can find the hardware in the
 attached photo?Thanks,John  "Once in the wilds of Afghanistan
 I lost my corkscrew, and we were forced to live on nothing
 but food and water for days."  W. C.
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Electric Diamond Discs

[charles smith via Phono-L]

Hi Tom- Do you have any 52,000 series Billy Murray titles in there?? Charlie.

On Fri, 2/26/16, Hawthorn's Antique Audio via Phono-L  
wrote:

 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Electric Diamond Discs
 To: "Maillist Phono-L" 
 Cc: "Hawthorn's Antique Audio" 
 Date: Friday, February 26, 2016, 7:28 PM

 Two of the most desirable electric
 Diamond Discs are going on ebay today:

 52646 - West End Blues/Have You Ever Felt That Way - Eva
 Taylor.  Edison's only blues record.

 52651 - Oh Susanna/Honey - Vaughn De Leath.  The last
 Diamond Disc issued.

 These are both from an Edison dealer's new/old stock, and
 have never been played.  They are truly in mint
 condition.  More unplayed Diamond Discs will follow in
 the next few weeks.

 My ebay name: hawthornsantiqueaudio.  Or, you can go to
 my website below for a direct link to my current ebay
 listings.  Please contact me if you have any
 questions.

 Tom Hawthorn
 hawth...@thoseoldrecords.com
 www.thoseoldrecords.com

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Re: [Phono-L] Diamond Disc Stylus Rebuild

[charles smith via Phono-L]

Hi- And I would sincerely add to the comments of John Robles. I have known 
Steve Medved since 2007.He has rebuilt at least four Edison reproducers for me. 
In every rebuild, the reproducer came back cleaner and sounded MUCH better than 
before Steve worked on it. Steve is one of those rare people that repairs 
someone else's items just as good as if it were his. That is beyond my opinion, 
that is a fact.His goal is to have the reproducer look and sound it's best.He 
is my first choice, and I would recommend him to anyone. Charlie.


On Thursday, December 31, 2015 2:26 PM, John Robles via Phono-L 
 wrote:


 Hi!
Steve Medved in Kissimmee, Florida is the number one reproducer rebuilder, and 
his prices are reasonable. I send him a lot of work and always get the 
reproducers back sounding (and in many cases looking) like new.  Send me a 
private email and I will give you his email address.
John Robles


  From: rkruz--- via Phono-L 
 To: Antique Phonograph List 
Cc: rk...@cox.net
 Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 11:20 AM
 Subject: [Phono-L] Diamond Disc Stylus Rebuild

I have a saphire stylus for a Diamond Disk W19.  I think the saphire is worn 
down becuase it seems to cause a lot of drag when playing a record.  In anycase 
its close to 100 years old and Id like to have someone rebuild it.

Do you have recommendations where I can send the head for a rebuild and saphire 
replacement?

Thank you for the input.
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison C1 and C2 diamonds for playing DD records

[charles smith via Phono-L]

Hi Everybody- Steve used a Bruce Diamond in my Amberola Diamond "C" reproducer. 
That one part, included in the rebuild,expertly installed by Steve, made a 
world of difference in B.A. playback. Tone and volume was impressive !  
~Charlie~



 On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:55 PM, SN Medved via Phono-L 
 wrote:


 
ch...@myvintagetv.com

I had a small number of Bruce diamonds made for the electric pickups in the C-2 
phonograph, if you are interested in having a new diamond installed you may 
contact Chuck Azzalina at the email above.

The one person I know who got one was very pleased with the rebuild and the 
diamond.  The diamonds were thoroughly tested out and measured to ensure the 
angle and the tip radius were correct, they were.  This was a long process that 
took months.

If you have any questions please let me know.

Steve

Re: [Phono-L] Steve Medved Repair

[charles smith]

Hi John: Steve has rebuilt two Diamond C one N and one N56 for me. He did the 
same work for me always too shelf ! Happy Easter to one and all !  -Charlie-


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On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 3:23 PM EDT john robles wrote:

Hello all
Just wanted to tell you (as if I had to) of the marvelous repair Steve Medved 
did on my Edison Model O reproducer.  It sounded fine from the time I got it 
on ebay, but the stem broke free from the stylus bar assembly, and it turned 
out it had been repaired before (badly).  Steve recognized the reproducer by 
its number 9he told me he records serial numbered reproducers that appear on 
ebay) and it had been auctioned by a man who told Steve that he had completely 
rebuilt it. Whoever bought it from him put it back on ebay 6 months later, 
which is when I bought it.  I suspect they did the bad repair and were trying 
to get rid of it. 
Steve took a new stem made by (Is it public knowledge, Steve?) which is just 
like the original, and made the repair, which involved much more than just 
gluing it in.  He also salvaged the original indicator knob and pointer from 
my original O and applied that to it!  He polished the diaphragm, which gleams 
like new, and made it airtight, which it was not before.

The reproducer sounds excellent, works just like new.  Thanks Steve, for 
another high quality repair.  I give you 5 stars!   
John Robles
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Re: [Phono-L] Why our hobby is completely incomprehensible to youth

[charles smith]

Thanks Peter !  I wonder what their reactions would be with one of my tinfoil 
machines !! Charlie.



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On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 7:23 PM EDT Peter Fraser wrote:

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Re: [Phono-L] Why our hobby is completely incomprehensible to youth

[charles smith]

Hi Curt: I'm scheduled to bring one of my S-A machines to demonstrate for my 
Daughter Samantha's 3rd grade class. The kids marvel the most when I carefully 
remove the foil and let them have it.They are so mesmerized that there isn't 
electricity,headphones or other externals to accomplish this.


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On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 8:09 PM EDT Vinyl Visions wrote:

Easy to imagine, Charlie...Curt

 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 16:40:06 -0700
 From: c.l.smith5...@sbcglobal.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Why our hobby is completely incomprehensible to youth
 
 
 Thanks Peter !  I wonder what their reactions would be with one of my 
 tinfoil machines !! Charlie.
 
 
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Victrola 8-4 (VV 8-4)

[charles smith]

Hi Men: I don't post a lot but DO enjoy the dialogue. Regarding this post, many 
acoustic phonographs tonal output can be custom tailored with different styli. 
A lot can be accomplished by experimenting with soft, medium, tungs tone or 
fiber/bamboo designs. Charlie.


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On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 4:58 PM PDT DanKj wrote:

   All of my acoustic records sound dandy on my Orthophonics - the whiny, 
nasal blast of early Victor band records is smoothed-out, and the latent 
bass notes on Columbias is brought-out.  Just don't pay too much, and you 
can't go wrong.



- Original Message - 
From: Richard richard_ru...@hotmail.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:02 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Victrola 8-4 (VV 8-4)


I've been offered a Victrola 8-4 (VV 8-4), and I'm wondering what to do. I 
haven't seen it in person yet, so I don't know if it has any pot metal 
issues; does this particular model tend to develop those? And if so, where? 
Just the tone arm mount, or the tone arm itself? How about the reproducer? 
And just as important, how do these machines sound? I've never owned an 
orthophonic before (see other post) -- just earlier acoustic machines, and 
electric machines from the late 1920's on. Do acoustic records sound best on 
acoustic machines? And do later records (say, 1926 and later) sound better 
on orthophonic machines, or electric? I know this is a matter of personal 
preference, but I'd be very interested to hear your opinion. And does anyone 
out there own an actual VV 8-4? If so, how does it sound compared to, say, a 
Credenza, or a high-end Columbia Viva-Tonal? (I've seen the videos on 
YouTube, but it's hard to get a sense of how they actually sound that way.) 
If I want to add an
 orthophonic to my collection at some point, would I be much better off with 
a Credenza or some comparable machine? And what would be a fair price for an 
8-4 in decent condition, assuming it doesn't need any work?

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Re: [Phono-L] [78-L] Edison Special Amberols discussion

[charles smith]

Hi Ron: Dubs are weird! I have some that are as loud and clear as live 
recordings but most aren't! 


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On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:39 AM PST Ron L'Herault wrote:

You are quite correct, Charlie.   The degradation in sound is from the
dubbing.

Ron.

-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of charles smith
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 12:07 AM
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] [78-L] Edison Special Amberols discussion


Hi Ron: My two cents. Some of the beveled ended BA's sound just as good as
the flat tops.Namely all of them up to about 2470 which are still live.
There were also some live recordings released sporadically from when
dubbing took over until 1928. One Special recording ( the Peerless Minstrels
one,I think it's Special H) was re released around 1927 as An old time
minstrel show! I always enjoy the posts! Best,Charlie.



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On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 2:02 PM PST Ron L'Herault wrote:

It's my understanding that a flat top Blue Amberol was pressed from a 
black Amberol master.  They generally sound better bevel top ones.

Ron L

-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org 
[mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Peter Fraser
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:33 PM
To: ronald dethlefson; phono-l List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] [78-L] Edison Special Amberols discussion

Excellent!  Any ideas on why some are flat and some beveled?  I'll dive 
into the EPMs for clues as well. Did you touch on them in any of your
books?

Thanks. Great to hear from you.

Also CCing to the list. 

Sent from my iPhone

-- Peter
pjfra...@mac.com

 On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:29 PM, ronald dethlefson r2d...@pacbell.net wrote:
 
 Peter, Please see Wendell Moore's Edison Phonograph Monthly Vol Viii 
 1910. The 24 Special Edison Amberol Series D Promotion records are 
 listed there with catalog numbers and content comments. Six of these 
 records were to be given to a person who brought in a customer who 
 bought a new Edison phonograph. This plan was introduced in July 
 1910. No
more than 24 cylinders were released for this plan, so I assume that it 
was not a success. Neither were these special Blue Amberol selections 
issued in the regular catalog. So they are quite rare and seldom found
today.
 
 Best regards, Ron
 On Nov 8, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Peter Fraser wrote:
 
 This is an interesting discussion going on, over on That Other List.
 
 Note especially the links to great scans of an Edison promo leaflet 
 for
the Special Amberols, directly below.
 
 They are cool and unique...indeed, special.  I have assembled a set 
 of
the blue versions, and note that some are beveled and some are flat ended.
This seems to indicate they stayed in production for a long time.
 
 Are there any facts available on that?  Do they appear in any catalogs?
 
 (Including Ron Dethlefson, because I bet he knows!!)
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 -- Peter
 pjfra...@mac.com
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Darrell Lehman nickja...@gmail.com
 Date: November 8, 2013 at 1:05:44 AM PST
 To: 78-L Mail List 7...@klickitat.78online.com
 Subject: Re: [78-L] SPECIAL B. Blue Amberol Cylinder??
 Reply-To: 78-L Mail List 7...@klickitat.78online.com
 
 If anyone's interested...
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/461/SpecialAmberola01.jpg
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/461/SpecialAmberola02.jpg
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/461/SpecialAmberola03.jpg
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/461/SpecialAmberola04.jpg
 
 =
 Ron L'Herault wrote:
 I believe that you could also get some special records as a reward 
 for recommending a friend to an Edison dealer.  If the friend bought 
 a machine, you got records as a reward.
 
 Ron L
 
 -Original Message-
 From: 78-l-boun...@klickitat.78online.com
 [mailto:78-l-boun...@klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Darrell 
 Lehman
 Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:45 PM
 To: 78-L Mail List
 Subject: Re: [78-L] SPECIAL B. Blue Amberol Cylinder??
 
 The titles were the same - different labeling on the boxes and lids 
 though - Amberol and Blue Amberol.
 
 
 Michael Biel wrote:
 When the wax Amberol cylinder came out in 1908 and again  when the 
 Blue Amberol came out in 1912, Edison gave the purchasers of new 
 machines or converting kits a set of 10 or 12 cylinders that were 
 available only that way.  They were numbered Special A, Special 
 B, etc.  I don't think the two sets were the same recordings.  My 
 reference books are too low in the pile to check.
 
 Mike Biel  mb...@mbiel.com
 
  Original Message 
 Subject: [78-L] SPECIAL B. Blue Amberol Cylinder??
 From: Clifford Bolling 78reco...@cdbpdx.com
 Date: Thu, November 07, 2013 9:06 pm
 To: 78-l Online 7...@78online.com
 
 I'm recording some Blue Amberol cylinders I got from a 2nd hand 
 store in La

Re: [Phono-L] [78-L] Edison Special Amberols discussion

[charles smith]

Hi Ron: My two cents. Some of the beveled ended BA's sound just as good as the 
flat tops.Namely all of them up to about 2470 which are still live. There 
were also some live recordings released sporadically from when dubbing took 
over until 1928. One Special recording ( the Peerless Minstrels one,I think 
it's Special H) was re released around 1927 as An old time minstrel show! I 
always enjoy the posts! Best,Charlie.



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On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 2:02 PM PST Ron L'Herault wrote:

It's my understanding that a flat top Blue Amberol was pressed from a black
Amberol master.  They generally sound better bevel top ones.

Ron L

-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Peter Fraser
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:33 PM
To: ronald dethlefson; phono-l List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] [78-L] Edison Special Amberols discussion

Excellent!  Any ideas on why some are flat and some beveled?  I'll dive into
the EPMs for clues as well. Did you touch on them in any of your books?

Thanks. Great to hear from you.

Also CCing to the list. 

Sent from my iPhone

-- Peter
pjfra...@mac.com

 On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:29 PM, ronald dethlefson r2d...@pacbell.net wrote:
 
 Peter, Please see Wendell Moore's Edison Phonograph Monthly Vol Viii 
 1910. The 24 Special Edison Amberol Series D Promotion records are 
 listed there with catalog numbers and content comments. Six of these 
 records were to be given to a person who brought in a customer who 
 bought a new Edison phonograph. This plan was introduced in July 1910. No
more than 24 cylinders were released for this plan, so I assume that it was
not a success. Neither were these special Blue Amberol selections issued in
the regular catalog. So they are quite rare and seldom found today.
 
 Best regards, Ron
 On Nov 8, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Peter Fraser wrote:
 
 This is an interesting discussion going on, over on That Other List.
 
 Note especially the links to great scans of an Edison promo leaflet for
the Special Amberols, directly below.
 
 They are cool and unique...indeed, special.  I have assembled a set of
the blue versions, and note that some are beveled and some are flat ended.
This seems to indicate they stayed in production for a long time.
 
 Are there any facts available on that?  Do they appear in any catalogs?
 
 (Including Ron Dethlefson, because I bet he knows!!)
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 -- Peter
 pjfra...@mac.com
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Darrell Lehman nickja...@gmail.com
 Date: November 8, 2013 at 1:05:44 AM PST
 To: 78-L Mail List 7...@klickitat.78online.com
 Subject: Re: [78-L] SPECIAL B. Blue Amberol Cylinder??
 Reply-To: 78-L Mail List 7...@klickitat.78online.com
 
 If anyone's interested...
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/461/SpecialAmberola01.jpg
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/461/SpecialAmberola02.jpg
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/461/SpecialAmberola03.jpg
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/461/SpecialAmberola04.jpg
 
 =
 Ron L'Herault wrote:
 I believe that you could also get some special records as a reward 
 for recommending a friend to an Edison dealer.  If the friend 
 bought a machine, you got records as a reward.
 
 Ron L
 
 -Original Message-
 From: 78-l-boun...@klickitat.78online.com
 [mailto:78-l-boun...@klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Darrell 
 Lehman
 Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:45 PM
 To: 78-L Mail List
 Subject: Re: [78-L] SPECIAL B. Blue Amberol Cylinder??
 
 The titles were the same - different labeling on the boxes and lids 
 though - Amberol and Blue Amberol.
 
 
 Michael Biel wrote:
 When the wax Amberol cylinder came out in 1908 and again  when the 
 Blue Amberol came out in 1912, Edison gave the purchasers of new 
 machines or converting kits a set of 10 or 12 cylinders that were 
 available only that way.  They were numbered Special A, Special 
 B, etc.  I don't think the two sets were the same recordings.  My 
 reference books are too low in the pile to check.
 
 Mike Biel  mb...@mbiel.com
 
  Original Message 
 Subject: [78-L] SPECIAL B. Blue Amberol Cylinder??
 From: Clifford Bolling 78reco...@cdbpdx.com
 Date: Thu, November 07, 2013 9:06 pm
 To: 78-l Online 7...@78online.com
 
 I'm recording some Blue Amberol cylinders I got from a 2nd hand 
 store in La Grande, OR and one of them does not have a catalog 
 number, instead it says 'SPECIAL B.'
 
 The title is FATHER'S ECCENTRICITIES by HILL
 
 What is a SPECIAL B.?
 
 http://pdx78s.cdbpdx.com/CYL/SpB/tn-400_Label_BLUE-AMBEROL_SPECIAL
 -B.JPG
 
 
 Thanks!  Cliff
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Re: [Phono-L] Amberola Spring Re-greasing question

[charles smith]

Hi John: Slowly wind the spring and watch the barrel. You should see a approx. 
dime sized threaded projection with a flat headed screwdriver slot on the 
barrel part facing you.Wind the spring fully and so you can see the opening and 
inject about a teaspoon of grease/oil mixture. Replace the screw and wind the 
motor up and let wind down 2-3 times. It should thin the previously applied 
grease and quiet it down. Try 1 teaspoon#x27;s worth the first time don#x27;t 
be tempted to use too much or it could come out. Place paper towels underneath 
for several days in case it drips. Charlie.
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Re: [Phono-L] Attn: Steve Medved, re: original hinge block

[charles smith]

I know Steve.He's a follower of The Lord.You will not find a more honest or 
caring person.He is that rare guy that gives 110%!
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Re: [Phono-L] Attn: Steve Medved, re: original hinge block

[charles smith]

I saw his link in there. His brown wax will soon be moldy like his clouded 
mental judgement.
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Re: [Phono-L] Attn: Steve Medved, re: original hinge block

[charles smith]

Is this Bill Bill Floyd ?
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Re: [Phono-L] Little Known Facts About Edison :) with special regards to Joan Rolfs

[charles smith]

Thanks Steve!
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Re: [Phono-L] AMAZING COLLECTION!!!

[charles smith]

Thanks Curt ! I moved and my main computer crashed but we'll keep in touch! 
Hope to have things on track soon !
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Re: [Phono-L] Cylinder Reproducer INFO Needed...

[charles smith]

Thanks !!





From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Sun, January 8, 2012 9:19:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Cylinder Reproducer INFO Needed...


Hello Curt, I have replied off list with photos.  This reproducer was made to 
play the 2 minute celluloid records the Indestructible company made.  All the 
ones I have seen have an aluminum stylus bar with a two minute stylus.  I am 
not 
sure when they were made but I have seen them sell from $99 to $231.  They are 
not commonly found, the earliest serial number I have seen is 37, the highest 
is 
4663.  I assume the weight weighs around 1.2 ounces and has the spring to 
increase volume. The last lead allow weight Model B reproducer has a 2.2 ounce 
weight and is a bit louder than the 1.2 to 1.3 ounce weight Model C.   I hope 
my 
reply will encourage more participation. Steve
 From: vinyl.visi...@live.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:42:12 -0500
 Subject: [Phono-L] Cylinder Reproducer INFO Needed...
 
 
 
 Today, I ran across an unusual reproducer for Edison machines. It is made by 
the Indestructible Phonographic Record Co. and plays 2M or 4M indestructibles 
or 
blue Amberols. It plays very loud and has a spring mechanism to put tension on 
the needle, instead of a weight. The question is/are - when was this made, is 
it 
rare and how many might have been produced? Any info would be greatly 
appreciated.
 Curt
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Re: [Phono-L] Amberola B-VIII

[charles smith]

  Thanks !





From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com; phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Sat, January 7, 2012 4:07:19 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Amberola B-VIII





Hello, Does anyone know what month the B-VIII was introduced and if it shared 
serial numbers with the A model?  How many seemed to have survived? Steve 
  

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[Phono-L] Edison's Son Not a Chip off the Old Block..Subjectwas RE: Phono-L and Censorship

[charles smith]

Hi Doug.If you have a modern turntable with a lateral/vertical switch Expert 
Stylus in England makes a great .0037 full conical stylus that really works! 
It's made just for diamond discs.If you need more info. on it,feel free to drop 
me a line.Charlie.

Douglas Houston cdh...@earthlink.net wrote:  Remember that Edison was a 
telegrapher, and that he specialized in the
mechanical aspects of the inventions. He was not schooled in electrical
technology, and though he did discover the thermionic (Edison) effect, he
had no idea what to do with or about it. It took another guy to add the
grid to control plate current in this thermionic thingamajig. Edison
understood the effect of causing a carbon filament to glow, and he had a
good grasp on materials and their properties, but he was not an engineer,
especially an electrical engineer. For a guy who was just about stone deaf,
it'samazing that he was able to get a recording-playback system going that
was ahead of those of so many others. I've always wondered what the outcome
might have been if he'd adopted lateral recording. The big reason that I
shy away from diamond discs is that in order to play them properly, you
need an Edison phonograph. I have too much stuff hereabouts without having
another system and equipment in here. I think that old Tom's unspoken (and
unaware) principle was: Non Comprendum Pugilarium (If you don't
understand it, fight it). He was washed asore by technology that he had to
swim with, and sadly too late, had his kid take care of it. It was a sad
ending to a great era. 

Doug Houston 


 [Original Message]
 From: Walt Sommers 
 To: Antique Phonograph List 

 Date: 9/18/2006 3:26:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison's Son Not a Chip off the Old
Block..Subjectwas RE: Phono-L and Censorship

 Randy,

 I like those points. You wrote: Edison should have stepped aside sooner.
 Yes, I think I agree as I consider that what if brainstorming.

 I realize that there is abundant writing by a variety of people who
 hypothetically consider many of the if only Edison would have...
scenarios
 (and the same is done concerning Victor, Columbia, Silvertone, etc.), but
I
 am of the opinion that the future of Victor, Edison, Columbia, and so on
(at
 least as I consider them as phonograph companies) was written on the wall
 way back about 1906 or so (maybe as early as ). I say 1906 because that
is
 when De Forest added that 3rd, almost magical, electrode (i.e. the Audion
or
 triode) to Mr. Flemings variation of yet another original Edison
invention,
 the vacuum tube. Of course, we need to mention Alexander Graham Bell's
1876
 fame with the first usable telephone whose principles would stimulate the
 invention of the first electrical pickup. I think Eldridge Johnson was
keen
 to the writing on the wall, but not Edison.

 When I think about Edison's use of a vacuum tube in the invention of the
 light bulb I always wonder why on he didn't go on to invent the first
 oscillator (Fleming did) and then to ponder how in blue blazes can a rich
 spoiled liberal like Lee De Forest (and not Edison) invent the triode.
After
 all, these guys all referred to the space charge of electrons between the
 electrodes as The Edison Effect. So, why didn't Edison advance his own
 inventions? I think I have part of the answer.

 History marks Thomas Edison as chiefly being an inventor; a guy who seems
to
 have pulled revolutionary technology right out of thin air (at least back
in
 his day it probably seemed that way to the average horse ridin', candle
 burnin', horrible piano playin' Joe). These things weren't mere paradigm
 shifts like we tend to see in technology today, his inventions were
radical.

 I tend to think that he [Edison] invented the balls, so to speak, and
always
 purposefully left the rolling of them to someone else. Even way back, it
 seems to me, and I am no historian whatsoever on the subject, that Thomas
 Edison had little or no desire to glance ahead at the time line of
 technology as to what could be. I suppose he was such a brass tacks
 fundamentalist engineer that he was primarily concerned with today and
not
 so much about tomorrow... You gotta love the guy for what he did (and
 didn't) do. But I have to admit that I for one am glad that his son
 apparently did not inherit daddy's tone deaf chromosomes.

 What ultimately killed the reign of the phonograph as the only game in
town
 was of course the radio. Although it is widely thought and published that
 records sales were severely impacted by The Great Depression, I maintain
 that technology, and not economy, are at the root. Think about it:
Eldridge
 Johnson invited the boys from RCA in a long time before the RCA takeover.
 Johnson surely saw something of the future in that move and he understood
 how to survive in business. Now for Edison, the poor dear: It is one thing
 for an old fart (can I say that here Loran?) to allow his own flesh and
 blood son to have some say over recording technology, but can 

[Phono-L] Indestructible 4-m boxes

[charles smith]

Hello.Does anyone have Indestructible,Oxford,Columbia four-minute boxes for 
sale?Thanks,Charlie.

allena...@aol.com wrote:  Hi,

Anything interesting turning up at the Show tomorrow? Does anyone need an 
oak case for an Edison/North American Class M (battery) phono? Or a motor for 
a Columbia N (Bijou)?

Allen
www.phonoboks.com

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[Phono-L] records I'm aloud to play

[charles smith]

Hi Jerry.I see from the list and e-mail you sell blue amberols.Is there a way I 
can get a list? Thanks,Charlie.

DeeDee Blais deedeebl...@yahoo.com wrote:  Hello Kevan, You can play any 
4-min Blue Amberol
(Edison) or Columbia 4-min Indestructible as well as a
few other brands. It might be easier to say that you
can't play an Edison 4-min wax Amberol. To the best
of my knowledge, Edison made the only 4-min wax
records (flat on the edge) and they should not be
played on your Amberola. Enjoy your machine and
contact me off list if you need more cylinders. I
have a good selection of Blue Amberol cylinders for
sale at $5 each. Happy Collecting, Jerry Blais

--- Kevan Ellis wrote:

 I have an Amberola 30. I was told I can play
 anything with a 4m mark on the 
 cylinder and BA's. Is this true? I would like to
 purchase some 
 Oxford/Columbia 4 minute records. Can I play them?
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