Re: [Phono-L] Amberola III saga on EBay - an update with a twist
I believe it's back on eBay? http://r.ebay.com/THp5oe If this is it, I take it eBay didn't mind her canceling the won part auctions? On 3/25/13 2:42 PM, Peter Fraser pjfra...@mac.com wrote: Well since it's already disassembled, the buyer will hopefully make sure it gets shipped that way! She originally told me (in all caps - i thought canucks are polite?) that she was parting it out because shipping the whole thing was too complicated. Disassembly has hopefully eased that. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Mar 25, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Jim Nichol jnic...@fuse.net wrote: I also assume that the phono will be severely damaged in shipment, due to lack of concern of the seller. Jim Nichol On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Andrew Baron a...@popyrus.com wrote: I was afraid of this. I understood Al's intention in notifying the seller of what they were doing -- no one could have anticipated that this seller wouldn't honor the seller/buyer contracts -- but I was instantly worried that the seller, once alerted to the true value, would do something underhanded, again. Greed unfortunately rarely has boundaries. If there's a silver lining, it may be that the machine is put back together and sold intact. I can already picture the damaged screw slots and dings in the wood from the slip of a screwdriver. Andrew Baron Santa Fe On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:37 AM, Anil Menon wrote: I know this has been an emotional and heated issue for many of us on this board and on the ATM forum. Some of you know that after discussions with Al, George and Rene, I decided to save the Amberola. After several efforts to buy the machine outright and offering and getting rebuffed on a 3,500 dollar offer in my second effort, I decided to go after all 7 items. The seller, Leilani Gillard from Peachland, BC, said to me what she told others on this forum, namely, if you win all items, I will give you the cabinet and everything else that came with the machine. Well, I won 5 of the items, lost the horn to a bidder from Australia, and the lid went unsold. I offered to buy the lid and pay for the rest. The seller came back with a new offer of an additional 500 dollars for the cabinet. I replied firmly no way and asked her to meet her commitment. And, well, in the catgegory of a never ending saga, here is a new twist on the Amberoa III. Now, she has come back saying that she is canceling all of the 7 bids and relisting as entire machine...see her principled stance below! What a scream! I guess she wants to get a higher return than what she got...this is adding stupidity on top of greed? Enjoy the read below:-) Anil Dear I am going to cancel all the auction you won and realist the machine as one unite. I hope you understand . I already told the guy who won the horn i wasn't going to sell it. I will give you your refund back. I hope you understand i am just doing the right thing. It not about the money now. Regards Lelani - peachland250 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola III saga on EBay - an update with a twist
What's with the strange pattern on the mandrel? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Arvin Casas Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 7:56 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola III saga on EBay - an update with a twist I believe it's back on eBay? http://r.ebay.com/THp5oe If this is it, I take it eBay didn't mind her canceling the won part auctions? On 3/25/13 2:42 PM, Peter Fraser pjfra...@mac.com wrote: Well since it's already disassembled, the buyer will hopefully make sure it gets shipped that way! She originally told me (in all caps - i thought canucks are polite?) that she was parting it out because shipping the whole thing was too complicated. Disassembly has hopefully eased that. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Mar 25, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Jim Nichol jnic...@fuse.net wrote: I also assume that the phono will be severely damaged in shipment, due to lack of concern of the seller. Jim Nichol On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Andrew Baron a...@popyrus.com wrote: I was afraid of this. I understood Al's intention in notifying the seller of what they were doing -- no one could have anticipated that this seller wouldn't honor the seller/buyer contracts -- but I was instantly worried that the seller, once alerted to the true value, would do something underhanded, again. Greed unfortunately rarely has boundaries. If there's a silver lining, it may be that the machine is put back together and sold intact. I can already picture the damaged screw slots and dings in the wood from the slip of a screwdriver. Andrew Baron Santa Fe On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:37 AM, Anil Menon wrote: I know this has been an emotional and heated issue for many of us on this board and on the ATM forum. Some of you know that after discussions with Al, George and Rene, I decided to save the Amberola. After several efforts to buy the machine outright and offering and getting rebuffed on a 3,500 dollar offer in my second effort, I decided to go after all 7 items. The seller, Leilani Gillard from Peachland, BC, said to me what she told others on this forum, namely, if you win all items, I will give you the cabinet and everything else that came with the machine. Well, I won 5 of the items, lost the horn to a bidder from Australia, and the lid went unsold. I offered to buy the lid and pay for the rest. The seller came back with a new offer of an additional 500 dollars for the cabinet. I replied firmly no way and asked her to meet her commitment. And, well, in the catgegory of a never ending saga, here is a new twist on the Amberoa III. Now, she has come back saying that she is canceling all of the 7 bids and relisting as entire machine...see her principled stance below! What a scream! I guess she wants to get a higher return than what she got...this is adding stupidity on top of greed? Enjoy the read below:-) Anil Dear I am going to cancel all the auction you won and realist the machine as one unite. I hope you understand . I already told the guy who won the horn i wasn't going to sell it. I will give you your refund back. I hope you understand i am just doing the right thing. It not about the money now. Regards Lelani - peachland250 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola III saga on EBay - an update with a twist
Wow, what a zoo! The mandrel looks all gouged up. Horrors! Taken apart, and put back together by someone who obviously has no clue. What a shame. Better than parting it out though, but still evil. Chuck Original Message From: it...@arvincasas.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola III saga on EBay - an update with a twist Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 19:56:08 -0400 I believe it's back on eBay? http://r.ebay.com/THp5oe If this is it, I take it eBay didn't mind her canceling the won part auctions? On 3/25/13 2:42 PM, Peter Fraser pjfra...@mac.com wrote: Well since it's already disassembled, the buyer will hopefully make sure it gets shipped that way! She originally told me (in all caps - i thought canucks are polite?) that she was parting it out because shipping the whole thing was too complicated. Disassembly has hopefully eased that. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Mar 25, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Jim Nichol jnic...@fuse.net wrote: I also assume that the phono will be severely damaged in shipment, due to lack of concern of the seller. Jim Nichol On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Andrew Baron a...@popyrus.com wrote: I was afraid of this. I understood Al's intention in notifying the seller of what they were doing -- no one could have anticipated that this seller wouldn't honor the seller/buyer contracts -- but I was instantly worried that the seller, once alerted to the true value, would do something underhanded, again. Greed unfortunately rarely has boundaries. If there's a silver lining, it may be that the machine is put back together and sold intact. I can already picture the damaged screw slots and dings in the wood from the slip of a screwdriver. Andrew Baron Santa Fe On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:37 AM, Anil Menon wrote: I know this has been an emotional and heated issue for many of us on this board and on the ATM forum. Some of you know that after discussions with Al, George and Rene, I decided to save the Amberola. After several efforts to buy the machine outright and offering and getting rebuffed on a 3,500 dollar offer in my second effort, I decided to go after all 7 items. The seller, Leilani Gillard from Peachland, BC, said to me what she told others on this forum, namely, if you win all items, I will give you the cabinet and everything else that came with the machine. Well, I won 5 of the items, lost the horn to a bidder from Australia, and the lid went unsold. I offered to buy the lid and pay for the rest. The seller came back with a new offer of an additional 500 dollars for the cabinet. I replied firmly no way and asked her to meet her commitment. And, well, in the catgegory of a never ending saga, here is a new twist on the Amberoa III. Now, she has come back saying that she is canceling all of the 7 bids and relisting as entire machine...see her principled stance below! What a scream! I guess she wants to get a higher return than what she got...this is adding stupidity on top of greed? Enjoy the read below:-) Anil Dear I am going to cancel all the auction you won and realist the machine as one unite. I hope you understand . I already told the guy who won the horn i wasn't going to sell it. I will give you your refund back. I hope you understand i am just doing the right thing. It not about the money now. Regards Lelani - peachland250 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Amberola III saga on EBay - an update with a twist
I know this has been an emotional and heated issue for many of us on this board and on the ATM forum. Some of you know that after discussions with Al, George and Rene, I decided to save the Amberola. After several efforts to buy the machine outright and offering and getting rebuffed on a 3,500 dollar offer in my second effort, I decided to go after all 7 items. The seller, Leilani Gillard from Peachland, BC, said to me what she told others on this forum, namely, if you win all items, I will give you the cabinet and everything else that came with the machine. Well, I won 5 of the items, lost the horn to a bidder from Australia, and the lid went unsold. I offered to buy the lid and pay for the rest. The seller came back with a new offer of an additional 500 dollars for the cabinet. I replied firmly no way and asked her to meet her commitment. And, well, in the catgegory of a never ending saga, here is a new twist on the Amberoa III. Now, she has come back saying that she is canceling all of the 7 bids and relisting as entire machine...see her principled stance below! What a scream! I guess she wants to get a higher return than what she got...this is adding stupidity on top of greed? Enjoy the read below:-) Anil Dear I am going to cancel all the auction you won and realist the machine as one unite. I hope you understand . I already told the guy who won the horn i wasn't going to sell it. I will give you your refund back. I hope you understand i am just doing the right thing. It not about the money now. Regards Lelani - peachland250 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola III saga on EBay - an update with a twist
I would report her to ebay as she has broken the sales contract. She agreed to sell when she listed it, and by winning the parts you agreed to buy. Ebay is specific in these things. John Robles Sent from my i la la la On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:37 AM, Anil Menon phonomen...@yahoo.com wrote: I know this has been an emotional and heated issue for many of us on this board and on the ATM forum. Some of you know that after discussions with Al, George and Rene, I decided to save the Amberola. After several efforts to buy the machine outright and offering and getting rebuffed on a 3,500 dollar offer in my second effort, I decided to go after all 7 items. The seller, Leilani Gillard from Peachland, BC, said to me what she told others on this forum, namely, if you win all items, I will give you the cabinet and everything else that came with the machine. Well, I won 5 of the items, lost the horn to a bidder from Australia, and the lid went unsold. I offered to buy the lid and pay for the rest. The seller came back with a new offer of an additional 500 dollars for the cabinet. I replied firmly no way and asked her to meet her commitment. And, well, in the catgegory of a never ending saga, here is a new twist on the Amberoa III. Now, she has come back saying that she is canceling all of the 7 bids and relisting as entire machine...see her principled stance below! What a scream! I guess she wants to get a higher return than what she got...this is adding stupidity on top of greed? Enjoy the read below:-) Anil Dear I am going to cancel all the auction you won and realist the machine as one unite. I hope you understand . I already told the guy who won the horn i wasn't going to sell it. I will give you your refund back. I hope you understand i am just doing the right thing. It not about the money now. Regards Lelani - peachland250 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola III saga on EBay - an update with a twist
This is what happens when a seller decides to disassemble an item and peddle the parts. I see this a lot on flea-bay and it is almost always a looser for the seller but these sellers do not care as all they are after is the $$$. You see them at auctions bidding on items to sell with absolutely no idea what they are or what they may be worth. They are just another human equivalent of the cockroach. On 03/25/2013 03:37 AM, Anil Menon wrote: I know this has been an emotional and heated issue for many of us on this board and on the ATM forum. Some of you know that after discussions with Al, George and Rene, I decided to save the Amberola. After several efforts to buy the machine outright and offering and getting rebuffed on a 3,500 dollar offer in my second effort, I decided to go after all 7 items. The seller, Leilani Gillard from Peachland, BC, said to me what she told others on this forum, namely, if you win all items, I will give you the cabinet and everything else that came with the machine. Well, I won 5 of the items, lost the horn to a bidder from Australia, and the lid went unsold. I offered to buy the lid and pay for the rest. The seller came back with a new offer of an additional 500 dollars for the cabinet. I replied firmly no way and asked her to meet her commitment. And, well, in the catgegory of a never ending saga, here is a new twist on the Amberoa III. Now, she has come back saying that she is canceling all of the 7 bids and relisting as entire machine...see her principled stance below! What a scream! I guess she wants to get a higher return than what she got...this is adding stupidity on top of greed? Enjoy the read below:-) Anil Dear I am going to cancel all the auction you won and realist the machine as one unite. I hope you understand . I already told the guy who won the horn i wasn't going to sell it. I will give you your refund back. I hope you understand i am just doing the right thing. It not about the money now. Regards Lelani - peachland250 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola III saga on EBay - an update with a twist
I also assume that the phono will be severely damaged in shipment, due to lack of concern of the seller. Jim Nichol On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Andrew Baron a...@popyrus.com wrote: I was afraid of this. I understood Al's intention in notifying the seller of what they were doing -- no one could have anticipated that this seller wouldn't honor the seller/buyer contracts -- but I was instantly worried that the seller, once alerted to the true value, would do something underhanded, again. Greed unfortunately rarely has boundaries. If there's a silver lining, it may be that the machine is put back together and sold intact. I can already picture the damaged screw slots and dings in the wood from the slip of a screwdriver. Andrew Baron Santa Fe On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:37 AM, Anil Menon wrote: I know this has been an emotional and heated issue for many of us on this board and on the ATM forum. Some of you know that after discussions with Al, George and Rene, I decided to save the Amberola. After several efforts to buy the machine outright and offering and getting rebuffed on a 3,500 dollar offer in my second effort, I decided to go after all 7 items. The seller, Leilani Gillard from Peachland, BC, said to me what she told others on this forum, namely, if you win all items, I will give you the cabinet and everything else that came with the machine. Well, I won 5 of the items, lost the horn to a bidder from Australia, and the lid went unsold. I offered to buy the lid and pay for the rest. The seller came back with a new offer of an additional 500 dollars for the cabinet. I replied firmly no way and asked her to meet her commitment. And, well, in the catgegory of a never ending saga, here is a new twist on the Amberoa III. Now, she has come back saying that she is canceling all of the 7 bids and relisting as entire machine...see her principled stance below! What a scream! I guess she wants to get a higher return than what she got...this is adding stupidity on top of greed? Enjoy the read below:-) Anil Dear I am going to cancel all the auction you won and realist the machine as one unite. I hope you understand . I already told the guy who won the horn i wasn't going to sell it. I will give you your refund back. I hope you understand i am just doing the right thing. It not about the money now. Regards Lelani - peachland250 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola III saga on EBay - an update with a twist
Well since it's already disassembled, the buyer will hopefully make sure it gets shipped that way! She originally told me (in all caps - i thought canucks are polite?) that she was parting it out because shipping the whole thing was too complicated. Disassembly has hopefully eased that. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Mar 25, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Jim Nichol jnic...@fuse.net wrote: I also assume that the phono will be severely damaged in shipment, due to lack of concern of the seller. Jim Nichol On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Andrew Baron a...@popyrus.com wrote: I was afraid of this. I understood Al's intention in notifying the seller of what they were doing -- no one could have anticipated that this seller wouldn't honor the seller/buyer contracts -- but I was instantly worried that the seller, once alerted to the true value, would do something underhanded, again. Greed unfortunately rarely has boundaries. If there's a silver lining, it may be that the machine is put back together and sold intact. I can already picture the damaged screw slots and dings in the wood from the slip of a screwdriver. Andrew Baron Santa Fe On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:37 AM, Anil Menon wrote: I know this has been an emotional and heated issue for many of us on this board and on the ATM forum. Some of you know that after discussions with Al, George and Rene, I decided to save the Amberola. After several efforts to buy the machine outright and offering and getting rebuffed on a 3,500 dollar offer in my second effort, I decided to go after all 7 items. The seller, Leilani Gillard from Peachland, BC, said to me what she told others on this forum, namely, if you win all items, I will give you the cabinet and everything else that came with the machine. Well, I won 5 of the items, lost the horn to a bidder from Australia, and the lid went unsold. I offered to buy the lid and pay for the rest. The seller came back with a new offer of an additional 500 dollars for the cabinet. I replied firmly no way and asked her to meet her commitment. And, well, in the catgegory of a never ending saga, here is a new twist on the Amberoa III. Now, she has come back saying that she is canceling all of the 7 bids and relisting as entire machine...see her principled stance below! What a scream! I guess she wants to get a higher return than what she got...this is adding stupidity on top of greed? Enjoy the read below:-) Anil Dear I am going to cancel all the auction you won and realist the machine as one unite. I hope you understand . I already told the guy who won the horn i wasn't going to sell it. I will give you your refund back. I hope you understand i am just doing the right thing. It not about the money now. Regards Lelani - peachland250 ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org