[Phono-L] The Sandblaster

2012-05-06 Thread Steven Medved




Does anyone know who the sandblaster is who sells the sandblasted painted 
reproducers on eBay: 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GORGEOUS-BRASS-EDISON-DIAMOND-DISC-REPRODUCER-COMPLETELY-REBUILT-FREE-WARRANTY-/280875848529
 I like how he painted the reproducer with the stylus bar in place, you can see 
the paint on the bar, very good to allow for freedom of the stylus bar 
movement.   I asked for the serial number on a bronze oxidized reproducer he 
was selling.  These reproducers were made only for the Duncan Stop which he did 
not know.  Edison made three MAIN different oxidized DD reproducers, the final 
one collectors call gun metal, Edison called it the Antique finish.  The first 
is the copper oxidized which is like the Idelia finish, and the bronze was used 
for machines such as the W250 and it is always found with the setup for the 
Duncan Stop.   Here is my communication with the sandblaster: Me: What is the 
serial number?
SB: Have you purchased this item or bid on this item?  HE KNEW I DID NOT. Me: 
No I have not purchased or bid on the item, do I have to purchase or bid to ask 
questions?  HE THOUGHT THIS WAS A SMART REPLY, I THOUGHT IT WAS DUMB REPLY TO 
ASK A QUESTION YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO.
 SB: Vital information as such goes to the winner--so if you buy it, you get 
that information. Hey, what's your social? Do I have to know you to get that? 
Make smartass remarks and you will get them returned. I have time for serious 
inquiries only...not people trying to be nosy.  IF ALL COLLECTORS WERE LIKE THE 
SANDBLASTER RESEARCH WOULD MUCH MORE DIFFICULT AND THERE WOULD BE A LOT LESS 
COLLECTORS AS 99.99% WOULD NOT BE COLLECTORS AS 99.99% ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. 
Me: You are clearly an idiot, serial numbers vital information?  I SHOULD NOT 
HAVE SAID THIS, MY MISTAKE AND I DO FEEL BAD.
You probably do not know where the serial number is or that the serial number 
begins with EM and this reproducer is found only on the machines with a Duncan 
stop.  Do not write back, I wanted to see if the serial number was higher than 
the five of these I have.  I collect based on serial numbers.
SB: And if it's not vital, why do you want it? You're the idiot. Go home to 
your trailer and grab 'ya a tall one.   DUNCAN STOP REPRODUCER WERE MADE WHEN 
DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE SLEEVE IN THE THROAT, THE EARLY ONES HAVE THE SLEEVE.  
EDISON CONTINUED TO IMPROVE THE DD REPRODUCER SO THE LATER ONES HAVE BETTER 
SOUND.  DURING THE TIME WHEN THE DUNCAN STOP WAS BEING MADE ALL EDISON DD 
REPRODUCERS HAVE THE BENT LIMIT PIN SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN THE DUNCAN 
STOPPED BEING MADE, IN THE B SERIES OF THE REGULAR DD REPRODUCER.  ALL THIS INO 
I HAVE IS BASED ON PEOPLE SHARING SERIAL NUMBERS.   THE ONES WITH THE SLEEVE DO 
NOT SOUND AS GOOD AS THE LATER ONES.
 
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Re: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster

2012-05-06 Thread David Dazer
I enjoyed his description of the drying room where the freshly painted parts 
cure at room temp.  Sounds a lot like my workshop, er, I mean drying room.  Too 
bad he was so nasty to you.  

D





From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org; phonol...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, May 6, 2012 8:18:05 AM
Subject: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster





Does anyone know who the sandblaster is who sells the sandblasted painted 
reproducers on eBay: 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GORGEOUS-BRASS-EDISON-DIAMOND-DISC-REPRODUCER-COMPLETELY-REBUILT-FREE-WARRANTY-/280875848529
 I like how he painted the reproducer with the stylus bar in place, you can see 
the paint on the bar, very good to allow for freedom of the stylus bar 
movement.  I asked for the serial number on a bronze oxidized reproducer he was 
selling.  These reproducers were made only for the Duncan Stop which he did not 
know.  Edison made three MAIN different oxidized DD reproducers, the final one 
collectors call gun metal, Edison called it the Antique finish.  The first is 
the copper oxidized which is like the Idelia finish, and the bronze was used 
for 
machines such as the W250 and it is always found with the setup for the Duncan 
Stop.  Here is my communication with the sandblaster: Me: What is the serial 
number?
SB: Have you purchased this item or bid on this item?  HE KNEW I DID NOT. Me: 
No 
I have not purchased or bid on the item, do I have to purchase or bid to ask 
questions?  HE THOUGHT THIS WAS A SMART REPLY, I THOUGHT IT WAS DUMB REPLY TO 
ASK A QUESTION YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO.
SB: Vital information as such goes to the winner--so if you buy it, you get 
that 
information. Hey, what's your social? Do I have to know you to get that? Make 
smartass remarks and you will get them returned. I have time for serious 
inquiries only...not people trying to be nosy.  IF ALL COLLECTORS WERE LIKE THE 
SANDBLASTER RESEARCH WOULD MUCH MORE DIFFICULT AND THERE WOULD BE A LOT LESS 
COLLECTORS AS 99.99% WOULD NOT BE COLLECTORS AS 99.99% ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. 
Me: 
You are clearly an idiot, serial numbers vital information?  I SHOULD NOT HAVE 
SAID THIS, MY MISTAKE AND I DO FEEL BAD.
You probably do not know where the serial number is or that the serial number 
begins with EM and this reproducer is found only on the machines with a Duncan 
stop.  Do not write back, I wanted to see if the serial number was higher than 
the five of these I have.  I collect based on serial numbers.
SB: And if it's not vital, why do you want it? You're the idiot. Go home to 
your 
trailer and grab 'ya a tall one.  DUNCAN STOP REPRODUCER WERE MADE WHEN DD 
REPRODUCERS HAVE THE SLEEVE IN THE THROAT, THE EARLY ONES HAVE THE SLEEVE.  
EDISON CONTINUED TO IMPROVE THE DD REPRODUCER SO THE LATER ONES HAVE BETTER 
SOUND.  DURING THE TIME WHEN THE DUNCAN STOP WAS BEING MADE ALL EDISON DD 
REPRODUCERS HAVE THE BENT LIMIT PIN SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN THE DUNCAN 
STOPPED BEING MADE, IN THE B SERIES OF THE REGULAR DD REPRODUCER.  ALL THIS INO 
I HAVE IS BASED ON PEOPLE SHARING SERIAL NUMBERS.  THE ONES WITH THE SLEEVE DO 
NOT SOUND AS GOOD AS THE LATER ONES.                            

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Re: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster

2012-05-06 Thread Steven Medved

Thanks, Dave.  I just wondered if he was a collector or an outside 'expert'.  
Over the years collectors have been wonderful. Steve
  Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 07:36:29 -0700
 From: dda...@sbcglobal.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster
 
 I enjoyed his description of the drying room where the freshly painted 
 parts 
 cure at room temp.  Sounds a lot like my workshop, er, I mean drying room.  
 Too 
 bad he was so nasty to you.  
 
 D
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org; phonol...@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sun, May 6, 2012 8:18:05 AM
 Subject: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster
 
 
 
 
 
 Does anyone know who the sandblaster is who sells the sandblasted painted 
 reproducers on eBay: 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/GORGEOUS-BRASS-EDISON-DIAMOND-DISC-REPRODUCER-COMPLETELY-REBUILT-FREE-WARRANTY-/280875848529
  I like how he painted the reproducer with the stylus bar in place, you can 
 see 
 the paint on the bar, very good to allow for freedom of the stylus bar 
 movement.  I asked for the serial number on a bronze oxidized reproducer he 
 was 
 selling.  These reproducers were made only for the Duncan Stop which he did 
 not 
 know.  Edison made three MAIN different oxidized DD reproducers, the final 
 one 
 collectors call gun metal, Edison called it the Antique finish.  The first is 
 the copper oxidized which is like the Idelia finish, and the bronze was used 
 for 
 machines such as the W250 and it is always found with the setup for the 
 Duncan 
 Stop.  Here is my communication with the sandblaster: Me: What is the serial 
 number?
 SB: Have you purchased this item or bid on this item?  HE KNEW I DID NOT. Me: 
 No 
 I have not purchased or bid on the item, do I have to purchase or bid to ask 
 questions?  HE THOUGHT THIS WAS A SMART REPLY, I THOUGHT IT WAS DUMB REPLY TO 
 ASK A QUESTION YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO.
 SB: Vital information as such goes to the winner--so if you buy it, you get 
 that 
 information. Hey, what's your social? Do I have to know you to get that? Make 
 smartass remarks and you will get them returned. I have time for serious 
 inquiries only...not people trying to be nosy.  IF ALL COLLECTORS WERE LIKE 
 THE 
 SANDBLASTER RESEARCH WOULD MUCH MORE DIFFICULT AND THERE WOULD BE A LOT LESS 
 COLLECTORS AS 99.99% WOULD NOT BE COLLECTORS AS 99.99% ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. 
 Me: 
 You are clearly an idiot, serial numbers vital information?  I SHOULD NOT 
 HAVE 
 SAID THIS, MY MISTAKE AND I DO FEEL BAD.
 You probably do not know where the serial number is or that the serial number 
 begins with EM and this reproducer is found only on the machines with a 
 Duncan 
 stop.  Do not write back, I wanted to see if the serial number was higher 
 than 
 the five of these I have.  I collect based on serial numbers.
 SB: And if it's not vital, why do you want it? You're the idiot. Go home to 
 your 
 trailer and grab 'ya a tall one.  DUNCAN STOP REPRODUCER WERE MADE WHEN DD 
 REPRODUCERS HAVE THE SLEEVE IN THE THROAT, THE EARLY ONES HAVE THE SLEEVE.  
 EDISON CONTINUED TO IMPROVE THE DD REPRODUCER SO THE LATER ONES HAVE BETTER 
 SOUND.  DURING THE TIME WHEN THE DUNCAN STOP WAS BEING MADE ALL EDISON DD 
 REPRODUCERS HAVE THE BENT LIMIT PIN SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN THE DUNCAN 
 STOPPED BEING MADE, IN THE B SERIES OF THE REGULAR DD REPRODUCER.  ALL THIS 
 INO 
 I HAVE IS BASED ON PEOPLE SHARING SERIAL NUMBERS.  THE ONES WITH THE SLEEVE 
 DO 
 NOT SOUND AS GOOD AS THE LATER ONES.
 
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Re: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster

2012-05-06 Thread David White
Those auctions are amusing - however, I feel sorry for the individuals who
are sucked in by his 'salesmanship'.

I found his auction for an Edison 'E' key to be particularly entertaining.
The key had of course been sandblasted and painted. In his description he
stated 'they don't turn up like this'. No, they certainly do not. :-)

Dave

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Thanks, Dave.  I just wondered if he was a collector or an outside 'expert'.
Over the years collectors have been wonderful. Steve   Date: Sun, 6 May
2012 07:36:29 -0700
 From: dda...@sbcglobal.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster
 
 I enjoyed his description of the drying room where the freshly 
 painted parts cure at room temp.  Sounds a lot like my workshop, er, I 
 mean drying room.  Too bad he was so nasty to you.
 
 D
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org; phonol...@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sun, May 6, 2012 8:18:05 AM
 Subject: [Phono-L] The Sandblaster
 
 
 
 
 
 Does anyone know who the sandblaster is who sells the sandblasted 
 painted reproducers on eBay:
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/GORGEOUS-BRASS-EDISON-DIAMOND-DISC-REPRODUCER-
 COMPLETELY-REBUILT-FREE-WARRANTY-/280875848529
  I like how he painted the reproducer with the stylus bar in place, 
 you can see the paint on the bar, very good to allow for freedom of 
 the stylus bar movement.  I asked for the serial number on a bronze 
 oxidized reproducer he was selling.  These reproducers were made only 
 for the Duncan Stop which he did not know.  Edison made three MAIN 
 different oxidized DD reproducers, the final one collectors call gun 
 metal, Edison called it the Antique finish.  The first is the copper 
 oxidized which is like the Idelia finish, and the bronze was used for 
 machines such as the W250 and it is always found with the setup for 
 the Duncan Stop.  Here is my communication with the sandblaster: Me: What
is the serial number?
 SB: Have you purchased this item or bid on this item?  HE KNEW I DID 
 NOT. Me: No I have not purchased or bid on the item, do I have to 
 purchase or bid to ask questions?  HE THOUGHT THIS WAS A SMART REPLY, 
 I THOUGHT IT WAS DUMB REPLY TO ASK A QUESTION YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER
TO.
 SB: Vital information as such goes to the winner--so if you buy it, 
 you get that information. Hey, what's your social? Do I have to know 
 you to get that? Make smartass remarks and you will get them returned. 
 I have time for serious inquiries only...not people trying to be nosy.  
 IF ALL COLLECTORS WERE LIKE THE SANDBLASTER RESEARCH WOULD MUCH MORE 
 DIFFICULT AND THERE WOULD BE A LOT LESS COLLECTORS AS 99.99% WOULD NOT BE
COLLECTORS AS 99.99% ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. Me:
 You are clearly an idiot, serial numbers vital information?  I SHOULD 
 NOT HAVE SAID THIS, MY MISTAKE AND I DO FEEL BAD.
 You probably do not know where the serial number is or that the serial 
 number begins with EM and this reproducer is found only on the 
 machines with a Duncan stop.  Do not write back, I wanted to see if 
 the serial number was higher than the five of these I have.  I collect
based on serial numbers.
 SB: And if it's not vital, why do you want it? You're the idiot. Go 
 home to your trailer and grab 'ya a tall one.  DUNCAN STOP REPRODUCER 
 WERE MADE WHEN DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE SLEEVE IN THE THROAT, THE EARLY
ONES HAVE THE SLEEVE.
 EDISON CONTINUED TO IMPROVE THE DD REPRODUCER SO THE LATER ONES HAVE 
 BETTER SOUND.  DURING THE TIME WHEN THE DUNCAN STOP WAS BEING MADE ALL 
 EDISON DD REPRODUCERS HAVE THE BENT LIMIT PIN SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF 
 WHEN THE DUNCAN STOPPED BEING MADE, IN THE B SERIES OF THE REGULAR DD 
 REPRODUCER.  ALL THIS INO I HAVE IS BASED ON PEOPLE SHARING SERIAL
NUMBERS.  THE ONES WITH THE SLEEVE DO
 NOT SOUND AS GOOD AS THE LATER ONES.
 
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