Re: [PHP] framework or not
On 13-10-24 09:41 PM, Larry Garfield wrote: On 10/23/2013 08:51 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] a bitter rant[/snip] Dang Larry - bad night? That wasn't a bitter rant. You haven't seen me bitter. :-) That was tough love to the OP. I don't see a reason to pussyfoot around the original question, which is one that comes up about once a month. The answer is always the same: How much is your time worth? Basic math... Life: finite Time: infinite finite / infinite = 0 *sniffle* Oh wait... you meant in the smaller scheme of things :) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] framework or not
On 13-10-22 05:38 PM, Larry Garfield wrote: If you need more convincing, I will cite Fred Brooks: http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~cah/G51ISS/Documents/NoSilverBullet.html Excellent article, thanks for the pointer. So many assertions have stood the test of time thus far. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Static utility class?
On 13-09-04 09:06 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: Hi Rodrigo, thanks for the help, I really appreciate it! On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Rodrigo Santos rodrigos.santo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, first, sorry for the bad English. Not bad at all! Very clear and well written reply (heck, it's better than my native English writing), so thank you! :) Yes, at least, as far as I know, this is the perfect way to do what you want to do. Think like this: when you instanciate a class, you are allocating memory. If you don't need any information stored, then you don't need to allocate memory, right? So, it's is logic to have a class that you will call only one fragment when you need it, rather than load the entire class just for one method. Interesting! That makes a lot of sense. Now you've piqued my interests! :) I was going to head down a different path, but you've inspired me to further explore the use of static methods/properties/variables/other. A part of me just wants to learn more about PHP OOP, and using static members is something I've not explored much. Seems like a simple functional utility class would be a good time to play and learn more. :D Just be careful to organize your utility methods by by meaning. Don't put a method that make dating stuff and a method that write a random string in the same class. By doing so, you are breaking the object orientation purpose. Excellent tip! Thank you Rodrigo! I really appreciate the tips/advice and inspiration. :) I'll second Rodrigo's opinion, but would like to comment that the name of the class is misleading since it's called Singleton. The singleton pattern is used when you only ever want one instantiation of a class. In your case you are using static methods, the object never needs to be instantiated and so it doesn't fit this pattern. What you are creating is far more consistent with the utility pattern. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Static utility class?
On 13-09-05 02:27 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: I'll second Rodrigo's opinion, but would like to comment that the name of the class is misleading since it's called Singleton. The singleton pattern is used when you only ever want one instantiation of a class. In your case you are using static methods, the object never needs to be instantiated and so it doesn't fit this pattern. What you are creating is far more consistent with the utility pattern. Ahhh, thanks so much for the clarification and details! That's very helpful. I've updated my gist to reflect the pattern name: https://gist.github.com/mhulse/6441525 Much appreciated. :) Probably sufficient (and easier for typing) to just call it Utility since it follows the pattern but isn't the pattern itself :) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] exec and system do not work
On 13-08-25 11:41 PM, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
Dear List -
I'm lost on this one -
This works -
$out = system(ls -l ,$retvals);
printf(%s, $out);
This does -
echo exec(ls -l);
This does not -
if( !file_exists(/var/www/orders.txt));
{
$out = system(touch /var/www/orders.txt, $ret);
$out2 = system(chmod 766 /var/www/orders.txt, $ret);
echo 'file2br /';
echo file_exists(/var/www/orders.txt);
}
and this does not -
if( !file_exists(/var/www/orders.txt));
{
exec(touch /var/www/orders.txt);
exec(chmod 766 /var/www/orders.txt);
echo 'file2br /';
echo file_exists(/var/www/orders.txt);
}
Ethan
Hi Ethan,
Is there a reason you're using shell commands to achieve the following:
?php
$path = '/var/www/orders.txt';
if( !file_exists( $path ) )
{
if( !touch( $path ) )
{
echo 'Failed to touch file into existence: '.$path.\n;
}
else
{
if( !chmod( $path, 0766 ) )
{
echo 'Failed to update file permissions: '.$path.\n;
}
}
}
?
Also, why are you setting the executable bit on a text file? :)
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] How can I submit more than 2000 items of data?
On 13-08-19 11:32 AM, Stuart Dallas wrote: On 19 Aug 2013, at 16:24, Matijn Woudt tijn...@gmail.com wrote: You might want to explain how you convert form data to JSON without javascript? PHP can do it. Ruby can do it. .NET can do it. Just because you want to use JSON in a web browser where Javascript is the go-to method, doesn't mean JSON requires Javascript. -Stuart Yes, of course they can do it, but then you first need to submit the POST data (which he could not do because of the above). Javascript is more or less the only way to do it (yes I know Flash….) I wasn't speaking to his specific issue as that was solved by an earlier response. I was just commenting that the implied intrinsic link between JSON and Javascript in what he had said does not exist. Your post didn't in anyway indicate that your response had nothing to do with his problem: I know you've had the right answer, but I think it's worth pointing out that use of JSON in no way requires Javascript, despite its name. As such, given the requirement of POSTing over HTTP(S) and that JavaScript is almost certainly more frequently used than ActionScript, I think a JSON based solution was at least 50% linked to JavaScript. :) Cheers, Rob -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Finally....
On 13-08-16 11:58 AM, Marc Guay wrote: Those Belgacom emails were the only thing keeping me from a crushing loneliness - undo! *sniffle* Another friend bites the dust *sniffle*. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] POST action
On 13-08-01 05:14 PM, Paul M Foster wrote: On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 02:35:04PM -0500, Larry Garfield wrote: [snip] So you're writing your own form tags for each specific time you need a form, or you wrote your own form builder API that is writing the form tags for you? Unless my wife creates the form in Dreamweaver, I write the HTML for the form fields. Even when she does, I add the proper code to validate each field and the form overall, using my field validation class, etc. Because if the former, I claim it's insecure. The development process is insecure, so you will screw up sooner or later. You're only human. A-ha! That's where you're wrong, Matey! For I am SUPER-CODER! Faster than a speeding 300 baud modem! More powerful than a teletype! Able to leap tall procedural functions at a single bound! With my pocket protector and trusty slide rule, I defend the indefensible and champion the cause of spaghetti code! So there! ;-P I often get paid to fix such code... keep up the questionable methodologies ;) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] POST action
On 13-07-28 01:14 PM, iccsi wrote: form action=action.php method=post pYour name: input type=text name=name //p pYour age: input type=text name=age //p pinput type=submit //p /formIn the PHP tutorial manual, it says that we can have post action to the form itself just like above coding.I would like to know in the real projects, can we have action to the same PHP file, since that we only need have one filebut not 2 files foe POST request,Your help and information is great appreciated,regards,Iccsi, From my experience, I would suggest that you ALWAYS post back to the same URL. All forms I've seen that post to a different target have issues when validation fails and they suddenly need to go back to the original form-- they tend to implement weird and not so wonderful techniques to get back to that form while preserving the posted data in the session or something. If they try to go back at all... some just say fail and tell you to hit your browser's back button. Leaving the action attribute empty should cause the browser to post back to the same URL without you needing to re-iterate it programmatically in the action attribute. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] POST action
On 13-07-28 01:51 PM, Jim Giner wrote: On 7/28/2013 1:38 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 13:37 -0400, Jim Giner wrote: On 7/28/2013 1:26 PM, Larry Garfield wrote: On 07/28/2013 12:14 PM, iccsi wrote: form action=action.php method=post pYour name: input type=text name=name //p pYour age: input type=text name=age //p pinput type=submit //p /formIn the PHP tutorial manual, it says that we can have post action to the form itself just like above coding.I would like to know in the real projects, can we have action to the same PHP file, since that we only need have one filebut not 2 files foe POST request,Your help and information is great appreciated,regards,Iccsi, Real projects to all kinds of things. Which is best depends on who you ask. :-) I would argue that there's 3 good approaches, both of which are viable: 1) Define your form abstractly via an API, and have the API detect the presence of POST request and then process the form after it's built. That means you do submit back to the same URL. (Drupal 7 and earlier do this.) 2) Put 2 separate request handlers / controllers at the same path, one for GET and one for POST. So you submit back to the same URL but an entirely different piece of code responds to it. (This requires a good routing system that can differentiate between GET and POST.) 3) Every form is defined as its own object somewhere with a unique ID. All forms post to the same URL but include the form ID. Code at that URL looks up the form object by ID and maps the submitted data to it to know what to do with it. Note that in all 3 cases you're defining a form via an API of some kind. You are not writing form tags yourself. Don't do that. Ever. I promise you that you will have a security hole or six if you do. Use a good form handling API for building forms. That's what good Real projects do. There are a lot out there. Most fullstack frameworks or CMSes have one built in (I know Drupal and Code Ignighter do, although they're quite different), and there are reasonably stand-alone components available in both Symfony2 Components and Zend Framework. Please don't write your own. There are too many good ones (and even more bad ones, of course) already out there that have been security hardened. --Larry Garfield Never write your own form? I'm guilty - oh, so guilty. What exactly is a 'security hardened' form? IN answer to OP - yes you can use a single script to handle your from return. I do that too! I start by recognizing my first time thru and send out a form/page. I process the submit back from that page, doing something based on the label of the submit button that I detect. I may then do some more processing and produce a newer version of the same form/page and repeat. Or I may end it all at that point. Depends on what the overall appl is doing. And now I'll watch and see how much I'm doing wrong. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with writing your own form processing code, as long as you understand what's going on. Many frameworks do make this a lot easier though, but sometimes I find it encourages you to ignore some of the details (like security) because you know the framework handles that stuff. I would say code forms on your own first, as a learning experience, then use frameworks once you know what you're doing. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk I dont' know that i'll ever use a framework. Strictly an ex-professional here doing my own website stuff. As you say 'code your own forms first as a learning experience'. Well, once I've coded them (aside: I think you mean 'process', not code) and learned how to do it right, why should I give up that task and pick up a framework? Chances are, once you've done this yourself and abstracted away the implementation details, you have your own framework for performing this generally tedious task :) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] From 24/7/2013 to 2013-07-24
On 13-07-26 11:42 AM, jomali wrote:
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 5:18 AM, Karl-Arne Gjersøyen karlar...@gmail.comwrote:
Below is something I try that ofcourse not work because of rsosort.
Here is my code:
---
$lagret_dato = $_POST['lagret_dato'];
foreach($lagret_dato as $dag){
$dag = explode(/, $dag);
rsort($dag);
$dag = implode(-, $dag);
var_dump($dag);
What I want is a way to rewrite contents of a variable like this:
From 24/7/2013 to 2013-07-24
Is there a way in PHP to do this?
Thank you very much.
Karl
$conv_date = str_replace('/', '-','24/7/2013');
echo date('Y-m-d', strtotime($conv_date));
Result: 2013-07-24
It would be better if you reformatted first since this is ambiguous when
you have the following date:
6/7/2013
Here's a completely unambiguous solution:
?php
$old = '24/7/2013';
$paddy = function( $bit ){ return str_pad( $bit, 2, '0',
STR_PAD_LEFT ); };
$new = implode( '-', array_map( $paddy, array_reverse( explode(
'/', $old ) ) ) );
echo $new.\n;
?
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] From 24/7/2013 to 2013-07-24
On 13-07-26 04:38 PM, jomali wrote:
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.comwrote:
On 13-07-26 11:42 AM, jomali wrote:
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 5:18 AM, Karl-Arne Gjersøyen karlar...@gmail.com
wrote:
Below is something I try that ofcourse not work because of rsosort.
Here is my code:
---
$lagret_dato = $_POST['lagret_dato'];
foreach($lagret_dato as $dag){
$dag = explode(/, $dag);
rsort($dag);
$dag = implode(-, $dag);
var_dump($dag);
What I want is a way to rewrite contents of a variable like this:
From 24/7/2013 to 2013-07-24
Is there a way in PHP to do this?
Thank you very much.
Karl
$conv_date = str_replace('/', '-','24/7/2013');
echo date('Y-m-d', strtotime($conv_date));
Result: 2013-07-24
It would be better if you reformatted first since this is ambiguous when
you have the following date:
6/7/2013
Here's a completely unambiguous solution:
?php
$old = '24/7/2013';
$paddy = function( $bit ){ return str_pad( $bit, 2, '0', STR_PAD_LEFT
); };
$new = implode( '-', array_map( $paddy, array_reverse( explode( '/',
$old ) ) ) );
echo $new.\n;
?
Cheers,
Rob.
The original question was about reformatting a European (Day/Month/Year)
date. Your solution does not address this problem. Mine assumes the
European date format explicitly.
Jomali,
Your solution is broken. The original poster requested the following:
What I want is a way to rewrite contents of a variable like this:
From 24/7/2013 to 2013-07-24
Your solution makes use of the strtodate(). A useful strategy EXCEPT (as
you have already noted) the date follows the European formatting rules
of dd/mm/ since the 24 as the first number makes that obvious.
HOWEVER, you failed to realize the following (from the PHP online manual):
Dates in the m/d/y or d-m-y formats are disambiguated by looking
at the separator between the various components: if the separator
is a slash (/), then the American m/d/y is assumed; whereas if
the separator is a dash (-) or a dot (.), then the European d-m-y
format is assumed.
And so, as soon as an abiguous date arises, the solution will be
incorrect because strtotime() will presume an American format due to the
appearance of the slash instead of the hyphen. It is dangerous to rely
on magical functions like strtotime() unless you completely understand
how ambiguity is resolved.
Another solution that was posted only re-ordered the elements and you
likely noticed that there is a single digit 7 in the source date and in
the response date it has been 0 padded to conform to the standard
-mm-dd date format. The other solution does not do this and so it is
also incorrect.
And so it follows, that my solution, thus far, is the only solution
posted that actually meets the requirements. Why you think my solution
does not perform is beyond me since a simple run of the code would
output the correct answer (yes I did test)-- mine also presumes the
European ordering for all input with components separated by a slash.
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] From 24/7/2013 to 2013-07-24
On 13-07-26 05:33 PM, Jim Giner wrote: On 7/26/2013 5:29 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: And so it follows, that my solution, thus far, is the only solution posted that actually meets the requirements. Why you think my solution does not perform is beyond me since a simple run of the code would output the correct answer (yes I did test)-- mine also presumes the European ordering for all input with components separated by a slash. Cheers, Rob. And my solution doesn't work? I don't see any padding happening in your solution. Your solution produced: 2013-7-24 The required solution is: 2013-07-24 :) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Programmers and developers needed
On 12-09-19 06:07 AM, Matijn Woudt wrote: On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:53 AM, German Geek geek...@gmail.com wrote: See below. On 19 September 2012 04:45, Matijn Woudt tijn...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:52 AM, agbo onyador onya...@gmail.com wrote: The growing power of the internet and global networks. (on the world’s politics, economies and even on daily life of ordinary people) Programmers and developers needed: Thanks I still cannot figure out if this is a joke or if you're really looking for world peace.. If you're serious, you might want to stop and take a look at Newton's third law, I quote from wikipedia: When a first body exerts a force F1 on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force F2 = −F1 on the first body. This means that F1 and F2 are equal in magnitude and opposite in direction., or simplified To every action there is always an equal and opposite reaction. It fits also easily on humans, take one step into peace, and it will have an effect in opposite direction elsewhere. Also, why do you think you can make a better social network than the already existing ones? Even the big internet giant Google can't seem to make it's social network a big success, and you (without even an concrete idea) can do that better? You might as well just open a simple website with a 'Like' button and ask everyone to like that page, so we end up with peace!:) Seems like an interesting point. But who says that good and evil are always cancelling each other out? To me good and evil depend on the point of view. So, what's good for A could be good for B too but bad for C, and therefore what's good for C is bad for both A and B? Not necessarily (following a implies b is not equivalent to b implies a). It gets complicated very quickly with more parties and we have more than 6 billion! One cannot really say that an action is good or bad for everyone following your argument. However, world peace, less pollution and equal or less diverse wealth would be good for everyone, because of less crime and less risk of loosing everything. Maybe it would trigger something bad at the other end of the universe, but the universe is pretty big (so I've heard :-), so what do we care? I vote for world peace in that sense. Do I hear a vote for communism? That didn't really work out in the past, so why would it now? Not to say I'm all in for communism... but communism failed for the same reason capitalism is failing. Corruption! Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Programmers and developers needed
On 12-09-18 02:12 PM, Matijn Woudt wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Matijn Woudt [mailto:tijn...@gmail.com] You're missing the most important aspect of social networks.. Advertising. Please tell me that is said sarcastically. Advertising is the cancer of the internet. There was a time when there weren't ad banners, interstitials, pop-ups, pop-unders, spam, and all the other bullshit you have to sift through on a daily basis. No, I was not meant to be sarcastic. You might find advertising to be the cancer of the internet, think again. The internet would be pretty much dead without ads, or would you rather pay $0.01 per Google search query? $0.01 for each e-mail send, $0.01 for each news article you want to read, etc, etc? (or more related, $0.01 for each facebook message you want to send/read?) In the end, good advertising means success, take the drop of facebook shares because of the investors being worried about facebooks' advertising possibilities. History suggests the internet would be here without advertising since it originated without advertising, originally grew without advertising, and finally evolved into this mixed blessing we have today. There's plenty of greatness on the internet, there's also plenty of steaming piles of manure. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Programmers and developers needed
On 12-09-18 02:38 PM, Jeff Burcher wrote: -Original Message- From: Robert Cummings [mailto:rob...@interjinn.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 2:22 PM To: Matijn Woudt Cc: Daevid Vincent; PHP-General Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Programmers and developers needed On 12-09-18 02:12 PM, Matijn Woudt wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Daevid Vincent dae...@daevid.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Matijn Woudt [mailto:tijn...@gmail.com] You're missing the most important aspect of social networks.. Advertising. Please tell me that is said sarcastically. Advertising is the cancer of the internet. There was a time when there weren't ad banners, interstitials, pop- ups, pop-unders, spam, and all the other bullshit you have to sift through on a daily basis. No, I was not meant to be sarcastic. You might find advertising to be the cancer of the internet, think again. The internet would be pretty much dead without ads, or would you rather pay $0.01 per Google search query? $0.01 for each e-mail send, $0.01 for each news article you want to read, etc, etc? (or more related, $0.01 for each facebook message you want to send/read?) In the end, good advertising means success, take the drop of facebook shares because of the investors being worried about facebooks' advertising possibilities. History suggests the internet would be here without advertising since it originated without advertising, originally grew without advertising, and finally evolved into this mixed blessing we have today. There's plenty of greatness on the internet, there's also plenty of steaming piles of manure. Cheers, Rob. Yeah, it grew out of government funding before advertising via educational institutions and the military. Would you rather have a free economy supported internet or a government controlled internet? Also, for those of us who are old enough to remember posting to text based bulletin boards, the influx of corporate money has greatly increased the infrastructure and functionality of the internet and has helped to make it a global phenomenon, which a government supported internet may have never become. Money makes all things possible. If you don't think so, try building a server farm and hooking up to a trunk line without it. My two cents. Now, I'm broke. You're making me wax philosophical... Money doesn't make all things possible. Time and energy make all things possible. Money is just a convenient placeholder for time and energy. At any rate, you're making the assumption that advertising was a necessary ingredient. It was not... nor does it's absence guarantee a government controlled internet. You have a logical fallacy in your argument above, but I'm too lazy to look up which one (or which ones), but I can smell it (them) ;) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Programmers and developers needed
On 12-09-13 06:10 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 16:48 -0400, Tedd Sperling wrote: On Sep 13, 2012, at 3:45 AM, agbo onyador onya...@gmail.com wrote: Hello there! We are looking for programmers and developers to create a world wide system. Your comments are welcome. Wow! I'm looking for world wide money. tedd Join the queue... There's a queue? Bah humbug... I've been waiting for delivery all this time. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Programmers and developers needed
On 12-09-13 08:44 AM, Matijn Woudt wrote: On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Steven Staples sstap...@mnsi.net wrote: From: Tim Dunphy [mailto:bluethu...@gmail.com] Sent: September 13, 2012 7:26 AM We are looking for programmers and developers to create a world wide system. Is it bigger than a bread box? Will it blend? Sure, if you find a big enough blender ;) There's a big one at the center of our galaxy :D Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] extract Occurrences AFTER ... and before -30-
On 12-08-21 12:32 AM, John Taylor-Johnston wrote:
This is usually a first-year CS programming problem (word frequency
counts) complicated a little bit by needing to extract the text.
You've started off fine, stripping tags, converting to lower case,
you'll want to either convert or strip HTML entities as well, deciding
what you want to do with plurals and words like you're, Charlie's,
it's, etc, also whether something like RFC822 is a word or not
(mixed letters and numbers).
When you've arranged all that, splitting on white space is trivial:
$words = preg_split('/[[:space:]]+/',$text);
and then you just run through the words building an associative array
by incrementing the count of each word as the key to the array:
foreach ($words as $word) {
$freq[$word]++;
}
For output, you may want to sort the array:
ksort($freq);
That's awesome. Thanks!
Let me start with my first problem:
I want to extract All Occurrences of text AFTER News Releases and
before -30-.
http://www.cegepsherbrooke.qc.ca/~languesmodernes/test/test.html
How do I do that?
Yeah, I am still asking first year questions :)) Every project brings
new challenges.
You can use strpos() to find the location of News Releases then you
can again use strpos() to find the location of -- 30 -- but you will
want to feed strpos() an offset for matching -- 30 -- (specifically
the position found for News Releases). This ensures that you only
match on -- 30 -- when it comes after News Releases. Once you have
your beginning and start offsets you can use substr() to create a
substring of the interesting excerpt. Once you have the excerpt in hand
you can go back to JTJ's recommendation above.
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] extract Occurrences AFTER ... and before -30-
On 12-08-21 01:11 AM, Robert Cummings wrote:
On 12-08-21 12:32 AM, John Taylor-Johnston wrote:
This is usually a first-year CS programming problem (word frequency
counts) complicated a little bit by needing to extract the text.
You've started off fine, stripping tags, converting to lower case,
you'll want to either convert or strip HTML entities as well, deciding
what you want to do with plurals and words like you're, Charlie's,
it's, etc, also whether something like RFC822 is a word or not
(mixed letters and numbers).
When you've arranged all that, splitting on white space is trivial:
$words = preg_split('/[[:space:]]+/',$text);
and then you just run through the words building an associative array
by incrementing the count of each word as the key to the array:
foreach ($words as $word) {
$freq[$word]++;
}
For output, you may want to sort the array:
ksort($freq);
That's awesome. Thanks!
Let me start with my first problem:
I want to extract All Occurrences of text AFTER News Releases and
before -30-.
http://www.cegepsherbrooke.qc.ca/~languesmodernes/test/test.html
How do I do that?
Yeah, I am still asking first year questions :)) Every project brings
new challenges.
You can use strpos() to find the location of News Releases then you
can again use strpos() to find the location of -- 30 -- but you will
want to feed strpos() an offset for matching -- 30 -- (specifically
the position found for News Releases). This ensures that you only
match on -- 30 -- when it comes after News Releases. Once you have
your beginning and start offsets you can use substr() to create a
substring of the interesting excerpt. Once you have the excerpt in hand
you can go back to JTJ's recommendation above.
Sorry... *YOU* are JTJ, but you trimmed the post including the
responder's name (which you should leave intact when trimming). I defer
(I think) to tamouse's recommendation above.
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] APC expunge notices
On 12-08-17 05:22 PM, Nathan Nobbe wrote: Hi everyone, I'd like to see what other folks think about the idea of having APC provide a E_WARNING or E_NOTICE when it has to expunge the cache. Ideally, this would include the amount of memory allocated in the error message. The idea here is to provide system admins with information that A. The cache had to be expunged B. The amount of memory allocated when the cache had to be expunged Right now, unless a close eye is kept, how is one to garner this information. Maybe, if the idea is interesting, it could be expanded to allow a user defined callback method where custom behavior could be implemented. Your feedback appreciated, I like all of these ideas :) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Need to have form protection techniques
On 12-08-17 10:15 AM, Tedd Sperling wrote: On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Ansry User 01 yrsna.res...@gmail.com wrote: I need to know the forms validity techniques for Php. This will probably take a while to absorb, so you may need to revisit this page several times: http://oidk.net/php/know-the-forms-validity-techniques-for.php No tedd, I'm sorry but the info in the link above is pretty much perfect. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Need to have form protection techniques
On 12-08-17 11:14 AM, Tedd Sperling wrote: On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Ansry User 01 yrsna.res...@gmail.com wrote: I need to know the forms validity techniques for Php. This will probably take a while to absorb, so you may need to revisit this page several times: http://oidk.net/php/know-the-forms-validity-techniques-for.php No tedd, I'm sorry but the info in the link above is pretty much perfect. Cheers, Rob. Oh, to be serious on this list on Fridays is lost cause. I keep forgetting Fridays are like April 1. :D Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Need to have form protection techniques
On 12-08-17 10:59 AM, Al wrote: On 8/17/2012 10:42 AM, Robert Cummings wrote: On 12-08-17 10:15 AM, Tedd Sperling wrote: On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Daniel Brown danbr...@php.net wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Ansry User 01 yrsna.res...@gmail.com wrote: I need to know the forms validity techniques for Php. This will probably take a while to absorb, so you may need to revisit this page several times: http://oidk.net/php/know-the-forms-validity-techniques-for.php No tedd, I'm sorry but the info in the link above is pretty much perfect. Cheers, Rob. Looks to me as if it's been hacked. I thought it was some intentional Friday entertainment! Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP session variables
On 12-08-15 03:19 PM, Tedd Sperling wrote: Rob: Again thanks. Sorry, I totally missed your point. In my defense I commonly use the value returned from microtime() as a string and not as a float. The code that followed my microtime( false ); demo broke the string and recombined it into a float. So, when you said: Please see the current signature for microtime(): mixed microtime ([ bool $get_as_float = false ] ) I looked at that and said to myself, Oh, I need to define it as 'false' because I was using it as a sting. I completely overlooked your point that microtime() could return a float and thus no need to work with it as a string -- duh! The demo is fixed (I think): http://www.webbytedd.com/b/timed1/ Thanks, tedd I only pointed it out because I used to do exactly the same thing :) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP session variables
On 12-08-14 10:41 AM, Tedd Sperling wrote: On Aug 13, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: On 12-08-10 04:42 PM, Tedd Sperling wrote: On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Ege Sertçetin sertce...@itu.edu.tr wrote: Hi. My question will maybe out of topic, I'm sorry. How can you know that one way will be much slower than other one? I mean, how can I learn which function is faster before I test it? Ege: No your question is on topic. This question should be asked on the list, so I'll present Q:A instead of answering privately http://www.webbytedd.com/b/timed1/ The code is there -- if you have questions, please post them to the list. Ted, Please see the current signature for microtime(): mixed microtime ([ bool $get_as_float = false ] ) The optional paramter was added in PHP 5.0.0. I think it's safe to update your habits :) Cheers, Rob. Rob: Fixed. Thanks -- my habits are always in a state of being updated -- just ask my wife. I'm not sure if you're making a joke, but your changes have no effect. You've merely explicitly stated the optional parameter's default value. What I had meant was to change the following: ?php $starttime = microtime(); $startarray = explode( , $starttime); $starttime = $startarray[1] + $startarray[0]; ? To the following :) ?php $starttime = microtime( true ); ? Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Repeated New Object Requests
On 12-08-10 02:24 PM, Al wrote: Off the subject a bit. What does PHP do with repeated new classes, e.g. $mime = new Mail_mime Are they simply ignored or are additional new instances created. PHP won't let you duplicate function names. Hi Al, New isn't defining a class, it's a request for an instance of a defined class. Thus it will create a new instance over and over again for every time the new request is made. The equivalent to won't let you duplicate function names is won't let you duplicate class names. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP session variables
On 12-08-10 04:42 PM, Tedd Sperling wrote: On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Ege Sertçetin sertce...@itu.edu.tr wrote: Hi. My question will maybe out of topic, I'm sorry. How can you know that one way will be much slower than other one? I mean, how can I learn which function is faster before I test it? Ege: No your question is on topic. This question should be asked on the list, so I'll present Q:A instead of answering privately http://www.webbytedd.com/b/timed1/ The code is there -- if you have questions, please post them to the list. Ted, Please see the current signature for microtime(): mixed microtime ([ bool $get_as_float = false ] ) The optional paramter was added in PHP 5.0.0. I think it's safe to update your habits :) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Reading class variable value always returns NULL
On 12-08-12 08:32 AM, Reto Kaiser wrote:
Hi,
So I have this strange situation where I assign a classvariable a
value, but when I read the value it is NULL.
The class has one variable declared:
=
class A {
private $_cookies;
}
=
That is a private instance variable NOT a class variable.
To declare a class variable you would do the following:
?php
class A
{
private static $_cookies;
}
?
In a method of this class I assign this classvariable plus an
undeclared classvariable and a local variable the value 1:
=
$this-_cookies = 1;
$this-_cookies2 = 1;
$cookies3 = 1;
=
When I now read the values of those variables, the classvariables are
NULL while the local variable is 1:
=
$logEntry .= 'cookies: ' . var_export($this-_cookies, true) . PHP_EOL;
$logEntry .= 'cookies2: ' . var_export($this-_cookies2, true) . PHP_EOL;
$logEntry .= 'cookies3: ' . var_export($cookies3, true) . PHP_EOL;
=
cookies: NULL
cookies2: NULL
cookies3: 1
=
But when reading the whole object, the classvariables are 1:
=
$logEntry .= var_export($this, true) . PHP_EOL;
=
A::__set_state(array(
'_cookies' = 1,
'_cookies2' = 1,
))
=
This happens periodically on a busy webserver. It seems that when it
happens, all classvariables cannot be read anymore (return NULL).
After restarting Apache it does not happen anymore, just to happen
again after some minutes.
The system is current Debian Squeeze:
Linux: linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64
Apache: apache2-mpm-prefork 2.2.16-6+squeeze7
PHP: PHP 5.3.3-7+squeeze13 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Jun 10
2012 07:31:32)
php -m:
https://raw.github.com/gist/3331641/2f7e80bd03abfb728b659634d3f4bac0131f4d6a/gistfile1.txt
php -i:
https://raw.github.com/gist/3331651/bcf6e3654bf391482627505447848de173d0bbab/gistfile1.txt
Does anyone have an idea what could cause this, or how to further debug?
I can't really speak to your specific problem (unless you're using two
different instances of the class), just thought I'd clear up the
difference between class variables and instance variables.
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] Too many open files
On 12-08-09 08:01 PM, Al wrote: Getting Too many open files error when processing an email batch process. The batch size is actually rather small and the email text is small likewise. I've looked extensively and can't find more than about 100 files that could be open. All my fetching is with get_file_contents(); I can't find a way to see what files could be open or what the limit is. Site is on a shared server, cPanel. ^ THIS is probably your problem. Too many open files indicates that either the user OR the OS has reached its limit of allowed open file handles. Open files are those used by the OS and every user on the shared server. The setting can be changed but you'll need an administrator to increase the number of allowed open files. I suspect it's at the OS level if indeed you only have 100 files open (though you likely have more due to files opened for you by the OS or whatnot. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Too many open files
On 12-08-10 02:49 AM, Matijn Woudt wrote:
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote:
On 8/9/2012 5:01 PM, Al wrote:
Getting Too many open files error when processing an email batch
process.
I've looked extensively and can't find more than about 100 files that
could be open. All my fetching is with get_file_contents();
Why not use fopen() and other related functions to open/grap/close your
batch of files?
You could replace a call like this:
$data = file_get_contents($filename);
with this:
if ( $fh = fopen($filename, 'r') ) {
$data = fread($fh, filesize($filename));
fclose($fh);
}
This should take care of your issue.
Jim Lucas
Why on earth would you want to reinvent the wheel? There's no point in
saying that fopen/fread/fclose is better, in fact, let me quote from
the manual page of file_get_contents:
file_get_contents() is the preferred way to read the contents of a
file into a string. It will use memory mapping techniques if supported
by your OS to enhance performance.
If your solution would fix the problem (I doubt, but ok), then you
should report a bug to the PHP devs that file_get_contents is broken.
It wouldn't fix the problem. Performing fopen/fread/fclose in PHP is
slower than the same process implemented in C in the PHP engine. Thus
the file will spend more time in the open state thus exacerbating the
problem.
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] XML/PHP web service
Hi Philip, Tell them they can POST submissions to: https://www.acme.com/xml-submission Then tell them what fields are supported. Presumably you will support the following POST fields as a minimum (as if they were on a form): username password xml Your handler should also provide some feedback about whether the submission was successful of not. You can simply return output of a 1 for success, a 0 for failure, or if you want to go whole hog you can output an XML response for which you can have much greater granularity for the response. Cheers, Rob. On 12-08-08 06:57 PM, Phillip Baker wrote: I was wondering how that would work and if it might be that simple. How would I inform the client to hit the page (script)? Blessed Be Phillip In the Jim Crow South, for example, government failed and indeed refused to protect blacks from extra-legal violence. Given our history, it's stunning we fail to question those who would force upon us a total reliance on the state for defense. -- Robert J. Cottrol On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.ukwrote: Phillip Baker phil...@freewolf.net wrote: Greetings all, I am looking for some options here. I am in need of creating a service on our web server that will always be available and automated. It will accept an XML file. I will be checking to see if the XML file is valid and then passing it on to another server. But I need to accept this file without using a submit form. I have never done anything like this and looking for ideas. I am using a lamp environment and looking for suggestions. I am looking to set this up so that our vendors can set up scripts to automatically post XML files to our servers. Blessed Be Phillip In the Jim Crow South, for example, government failed and indeed refused to protect blacks from extra-legal violence. Given our history, it's stunning we fail to question those who would force upon us a total reliance on the state for defense. -- Robert J. Cottrol Just set up your php script as if it were accepting input from a form submission. All you're doing is not showing the form. Imagine it like a form set up on someone else's server with the action attribute pointing to your script. Ashley Sheridan http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] why is (intval('444-44444') == '444-44444') EQUAL??!
On 12-06-21 10:27 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote:
Huh? Why is this equal??!
php $id = '444-4';
php var_dump($id, intval($id));
string(9) 444-4
int(444)
php if (intval($id) == $id) echo 'equal'; else echo 'not equal';
equal
or in other words:
php if (intval('444-4') == '444-4') echo 'equal'; else
echo 'not equal';
equal
I would expect PHP to be evaluating string 444-4 against integer 444
(or string either way)
however, just for giggles, using === works...
php if ($id === intval($id)) echo 'equal'; else echo 'not equal';
not equal
Using === will always fail because on the left you have a string and on
the right you have an integer which fails exact comparison based on
datatype mismatch.
When comparing a string to an integer using == PHP performs type
juggling and converts the string to an integer first.
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] Function size
On 12-05-29 07:17 AM, Stuart Dallas wrote: I wasn't going to respond to this thread because I think it's a largely ridiculous topic, but some of the responses have scared me. Sir Cummings (hopefully) sarcastic response about using a 5px font size demonstrated how daft it is to base function size on how much code you can see on the screen at once. Guilty as charged ;) One time I was helping a friend of mine do his Java homework at Cornell and when he got the assignment back he scored 24 out of 25 and I was like What?!. The marker subtracted a point for a function that spanned more than one printed page. What a dork! I guess he didn't like my brace style since if I'd used a less vertically consumptive style then it would have printed cleanly on one page *lol*. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Function size
On 12-05-23 12:15 PM, Tedd Sperling wrote: On May 23, 2012, at 11:49 AM, shiplu wrote: On May 21, 2012, at 8:32 PM, tamouse mailing lists wrote: When number of lines becomes the criteria of function size? Wouldn't it depends on the task the function is doing? You missed the point. Of course, the difficulty of the task of a specific function will directly contribute to the number of lines of code for that function, but that's not what I was talking about. What I was talking about was that what we can grasp in one view, we can understand better. If the code lies outside of our view, then we understand it less. I can support this claim with numerous articles/books/studies of human visual limits vs short-term memory. I am only bringing this forward for us to consider in our writing code. If we know why we do things, then we can better understand what we do. That's why I code in 5px font. On my huge monitor I sometimes find the code is shaped like a tiger, or a dragon, I swear I even saw Piccolo. It really does help to see the big picture :B Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] To ? or not to ?
On 12-04-04 01:14 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: [snip] Could using ob_start and ob_end_flush eliminate the ambiguity of whether or not to use '?'? In the generally recommended case of don't use them at the end of your file... where's the ambiguity? http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.include.php http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.basic-syntax.phpmode.php Those seem to suggest to use them... thus the ambiguity. From an age long gone when I asked the exact same question and Big Daddy answered: http://marc.info/?l=php-internalsm=106896382030183w=2 Then again a couple of years later: http://marc.info/?l=php-internalsm=112537775409619w=2 And in the manual itself (see the note): http://ca.php.net/basic-syntax.instruction-separation Zend Framework and Drupal are examples of large codebases that have adopted the omission as a best practice. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] To ? or not to ?
On 12-04-04 02:42 PM, Lester Caine wrote: Tedd Sperling wrote: Let me start a religious war -- should one end their scripts with ? or not? Just as long as no one proposes making leaving out compulsory ;) While I can sort of understand the logic when the file is all php and just has an opening?php, but when it's part of a file that has numerous opening and closing tags AND using?= then leaving one segment un-terminated just seems totally wrong? These kinds of files don't generally have issues with trailing whitespace though :) I certainly close the tags in these cases. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] To ? or not to ?
On 12-04-04 04:40 PM, Lester Caine wrote: ( forget email addres :( ) Robert Cummings wrote: On 12-04-04 02:42 PM, Lester Caine wrote: Tedd Sperling wrote: Let me start a religious war -- should one end their scripts with ? or not? Just as long as no one proposes making leaving out compulsory ;) While I can sort of understand the logic when the file is all php and just has an opening?php, but when it's part of a file that has numerous opening and closing tags AND using?= then leaving one segment un-terminated just seems totally wrong? These kinds of files don't generally have issues with trailing whitespace though :) I certainly close the tags in these cases. I'm not alone then :) But I prefer EVERY tag to be closed ... perhaps that would change if the IDE's faked a closing tag when it's missing so they don't get flagged as an error :( IDE? Get off my lawn!! ;) I develop in JOE. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] To ? or not to ?
On 12-04-03 05:29 PM, Tedd Sperling wrote: Hi gang: Let me start a religious war -- should one end their scripts with ? or not? After years of never having a problem with ending any of my scripts with ?, I found that several students in my class had scripts that did not produce the desired result even after they were given the scripts via highlight_file() to cut and paste. As it turned out, several students copy/pasted the script with an addition whitespace after the ending ? and as such the scripts did not run as expected. You see, the scripts created image but apparently the image delivery method objected to the additional whitespace. Does anyone have more examples of where scripts will fail IF they end with ? (note the additional space)? It's standard practice to NOT include the closing ? on anything remotely resembling a class or lib source file. As has been mentioned on this list and originally on PHP internals on several occasions, the optionality of the closing tag is intentional :) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] To ? or not to ?
On 12-04-03 11:39 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: Stuart Dallas wrote: [snip] Usually when setting headers after such a script has been included when output buffering is turned off. Personally I never put the closing ? in if it's at the end of the file because it's unnecessary and can cause issues if it's present, but it's personal preference more than anything else. Ultimately you have to consider that there's a reason it's optional - things like that don't generally happen by accident. I remember Rasmus commenting on this style issue a few years back so a search of the archives should find an official position. -Stuart Could using ob_start and ob_end_flush eliminate the ambiguity of whether or not to use '?'? In the generally recommended case of don't use them at the end of your file... where's the ambiguity? Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-04-02 04:36 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
function getTiersJson( $company )
{
$tiers = getTiers( $company );
$json = JSON_encode( $tiers );
}
$tiersJson = getTiersJson( 1 );
?
This will output JSON with the following structure:
[/snip]
OK, now I know I am being dense - but don't I have to add return $json; to
getTiersJson() ?
yeah, *lol* in my testing I had a print_r() in the getTiersJson() so
didn't notice I wasn't returning since I didn't do anything with the
captured value (null without a proper return).
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-27 11:11 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]On 3/27/2012 12:21 AM, Robert Cummings wrote:
[-- SNIP --]
Essentially, entries at the root and entries for the children are just
auto indexed array items but the actual entries in those arrays retain
the associative index structure for retrieval of the specific
information. let me know and I can probably whip you up something.
Robert that looks correct. Here is an example of the JSON that the guy
provided for me -
var json = {
id: node02,
name: 0.2,
data: {},
children: [{
id: node13,
name: 1.3,
data: {},
children: [{
id: node24,
name: 2.4,
data: {},
children: [{
id: node35,
name: 3.5,
data: {},
children: [{
id: node46,
name: 4.6,
data: {},
children: []
}]
}, {
id: node37,
name: 3.7,
data: {},
children: [{
id: node48,
name: 4.8,
data: {},
children: []
}, {
id: node49,
name: 4.9,
data: {},
children: []
}, {
id: node410,
name: 4.10,
data: {},
children: []
}, {
id: node411,
name: 4.11,
data: {},
children: []
}]
},
Of course he properly closes up the JSON. I inserted id's (just an
auto-incrementing number) and the data portion where needed. The name:
is the part that has been the result of what you did before.
Here's the code... I did a bit of shuffling and actually tested against
a test db table:
?mysql :)
DROP TABLE IF EXISTS tiers;
CREATE TABLE tiers
(
company INT NOT NULL,
tier1 VARCHAR( 32 ) NOT NULLDEFAULT '',
tier2 VARCHAR( 32 ) NOT NULLDEFAULT '',
tier3 VARCHAR( 32 ) NOT NULLDEFAULT '',
tier4 VARCHAR( 32 ) NOT NULLDEFAULT '',
tier5 VARCHAR( 32 ) NOT NULLDEFAULT '',
tier6 VARCHAR( 32 ) NOT NULLDEFAULT '',
tier7 VARCHAR( 32 ) NOT NULLDEFAULT '',
tier8 VARCHAR( 32 ) NOT NULLDEFAULT '',
tier9 VARCHAR( 32 ) NOT NULLDEFAULT '',
tier10 VARCHAR( 32 ) NOT NULLDEFAULT '',
tier11 VARCHAR( 32 ) NOT NULLDEFAULT '',
tier12 VARCHAR( 32 ) NOT NULLDEFAULT '',
tier13 VARCHAR( 32 ) NOT NULLDEFAULT '',
tier14 VARCHAR( 32 ) NOT NULLDEFAULT ''
);
INSERT INTO tiers (company, tier1, tier2, tier3) VALUES
(1, 'exec-001','sub-exec-011','sub-sub-exec-111'),
(1, 'exec-001','sub-exec-011','sub-sub-exec-112'),
(1, 'exec-001','sub-exec-012','sub-sub-exec-121'),
(1, 'exec-001','sub-exec-012','sub-sub-exec-122'),
(1, 'exec-002','sub-exec-021','sub-sub-exec-211'),
(1, 'exec-002','sub-exec-021','sub-sub-exec-212'),
(1, 'exec-002','sub-exec-022','sub-sub-exec-221'),
(1, 'exec-002','sub-exec-022','sub-sub-exec-222');
?
And here's the code:
?php
function getTiers( $company )
{
//
// Establish the root.
//
$sDb = ijinn_getServiceRef( 'dbManager' );
$db = $sDb-getConnectionRef();
$query =
SELECT DISTINCT
. *
.FROM
. tiers
.WHERE
. company = {$company} ;
$root = array();
if( $db-query( $query ) )
{
while( ($row = $db-fetchRow()) )
{
$focus = $root;
for( $i = 1; $i = 14; $i++ )
{
$name = trim( $row['tier'.$i] );
if( $name === '' )
{
break;
}
if( !isset( $focus[$name] ) )
{
$focus[$name] = array
(
'name' = $name,
'children' = array(),
);
}
$focus = $focus[$name]['children'];
}
}
}
$wrapper = array
(
'children' = $root
);
postProcessTiers( $wrapper );
return $root;
}
function postProcessTiers( $root )
{
$root['children'] = array_values( $root['children'] );
foreach( array_keys( $root
Re: [PHP] Need PHP Web Developer in So Cal
On 12-03-28 12:20 PM, Paul Scott wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 28/03/2012 18:04, Michael Frankel wrote: Hi - I am looking for a reliable, experienced PHP / Web developer or development company to assist me with one of my long-time clients. I need someone who has experience with all the following technologies working in a hosted environment: [snip] - Can be responsive to client emergencies - NOTE: this is the MOST important quality Translates to we will be phoning you at 2am and you are expected to be there with a smile on your face for the client Am I right? Yeah, I know I am... ;) I always have a smile on my face... yeah, I'm smiling right now!! :D Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-26 02:12 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] This is one of those projects. It is apparently going to be trying every step of the way. [/snip] I was proven right this morning after all of Robert's good work and what I had added to make this work. It turns out that the one service who was anxious to consume the JSON output expects that the JSON be a certain format. When I run their format through jslint it does not validate unless I add quotes around the name portion of the name:value pairs. In addition they use (perfectly valid) square brackets around the children groups that the output from json_encode() does not contain. I am ready to take a loss on this one but I really didn't lose - Robert gave me a great way to retrieve the data with one query and create valid JSON from it. Thanks again Robert! *lol* No worries... it's all about solving problems :) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-26 05:14 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] *lol* No worries... it's all about solving problems :) [/snip] the other folks who needed to consume the JSON have all done so successfully today - just this one. The guy who runs it was plenty arrogant when I discussed with him. He is the one who wanted me to remove the extra array name. I cooked up some regex to do that but then all of the opening/closing curlies were out of whack. If I had kept going it would have been maddening. I told him he needed to fix his JSON parsing. He said I needed to add the square brackets. Programmer stand-off. Did you end up with a satisfactory output? It's not overly difficult to generate an array instead of an object. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-26 06:52 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] Did you end up with a satisfactory output? It's not overly difficult to generate an array instead of an object. [/snip] I did for all but this one instance. Are you saying that it would be easy to make of the children arrays? I thought they were already - am I missing something? They are arrays... but JSON_encode is creating objects. You can create arrays by traversing the array structure recursively and outputing your own JavaScript code to build a JavaScript array. I don't know if that would serve the purpose, but you would end up with an array. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-26 07:05 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] On Mar 26, 2012, at 5:58 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: On 12-03-26 06:52 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] Did you end up with a satisfactory output? It's not overly difficult to generate an array instead of an object. [/snip] I did for all but this one instance. Are you saying that it would be easy to make of the children arrays? I thought they were already - am I missing something? They are arrays... but JSON_encode is creating objects. You can create arrays by traversing the array structure recursively and outputing your own JavaScript code to build a JavaScript array. I don't know if that would serve the purpose, but you would end up with an array. [/snip] I'm listening - so could this be added to the code that you just wrote? Or do I need to recurse the output from json_encode()? I think you need two things... the recursive post processor that removes the string indexes for the children. And then a function that creates a JavaScript array expression from an object or array. The question I have for you... is given the following array structure that might be generated from my previous code: ?php array ( 'exec-001' = array ( 'name' = 'exec-001', 'children' = array ( 'sub-exec-011' = array ( 'name' = 'sub-exec-011', 'children' = array ( 'sub-sub-exec-111' = array ( 'name' = 'sub-sub-exec-111', 'children' = array() ), 'sub-sub-exec-112' = array ( 'name' = 'sub-sub-exec-112', 'children' = array() ) ) ), 'sub-exec-012' = array ( 'name' = 'sub-exec-012', 'children' = array ( 'sub-sub-exec-121' = array ( 'name' = 'sub-sub-exec-121', 'children' = array() ), 'sub-sub-exec-122' = array ( 'name' = 'sub-sub-exec-122', 'children' = array() ) ) ) ) ), 'exec-002' = array ( 'name' = 'exec-002', 'children' = array ( 'sub-exec-021' = array ( 'name' = 'sub-exec-021', 'children' = array ( 'sub-sub-exec-211' = array ( 'name' = 'sub-sub-exec-211', 'children' = array() ), 'sub-sub-exec-212' = array ( 'name' = 'sub-sub-exec-212', 'children' = array() ) ) ), 'sub-exec-022' = array ( 'name' = 'sub-exec-022', 'children' = array ( 'sub-sub-exec-221' = array ( 'name' = 'sub-sub-exec-221', 'children' = array() ), 'sub-sub-exec-222' = array ( 'name' = 'sub-sub-exec-222', 'children' = array() ) ) ) ) ) ); ? On first blush, I think you want the following structure (from your recent posts): ?php array ( 0 = array ( 'name' = 'exec-001', 'children' = array ( 0 = array ( 'name' = 'sub-exec-011', 'children' = array ( 0 = array ( 'name' = 'sub-sub-exec-111', 'children' = array() ), 1 = array ( 'name' = 'sub-sub-exec-112', 'children' = array() ) ) ), 1 = array ( 'name' = 'sub-exec-012', 'children' = array ( 0 = array ( 'name' = 'sub-sub-exec-121', 'children' = array() ), 1 = array ( 'name' = 'sub-sub-exec-122', 'children' = array() ) ) ) ) ), 1 = array ( 'name' = 'exec-002', 'children' = array ( 0 = array
Re: [PHP] foreach weirdness
On 12-03-24 11:15 AM, Al wrote: On 3/23/2012 10:11 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: On 12-03-23 06:30 PM, Simon Schick wrote: 2012/3/23 Robert Cummingsrob...@interjinn.com On 12-03-23 11:16 AM, Arno Kuhl wrote: it still does not produce the correct result: 0 1 3 6 10 15 21 0 1 3 6 10 15 15 This looks like a bug... the last row should be the same. What version of PHP are you using? Have you checked the online bug reports? Hi, Robert Does not seem like a bug to me ... http://schlueters.de/blog/archives/141-References-and-foreach.html What you should do to get the expected result: Unset the variable after you don't need this reference any longer. Ah yes... that clued me in. I disagree with the article's generalization with respect to references since references accomplish some things that cannot be accomplished otherwise, but even I missed the fact that the second loop was using a variable that was a reference to the last element of the array as created in the first loop *lol*. The user's very act of checking their results was confounding the result... I love it :) Cheers, Rob. Re, your ...that cannot be accomplished otherwise,... Can you provide some examples? The only ones I've found are when using create_function() and the arguments for callback functions. I can't even remember or find in my code an example of my foreach()loops needed it. Seems, I recall earlier versions of PHP [4? ]required references for variables. After I submitted ...that cannot be accomplished otherwise,..., I realized it was a patently false statement (a turing machine is a turing machine :). The intent of the statement though was to indicate the greater difficulty in achieving something relatively simple with references. See the other thread Thinking out loud - continuation. My post dated 2012-03-24 00:24 shows a process that is cumbersome and inefficient to implement in another fashion. References are like pointers... very powerful but with cautions for the unwary. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-24 08:41 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
On Mar 23, 2012, at 11:24 PM, Robert Cummings wrote:
On 12-03-23 05:41 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
[-- DELETED GARBAGE --] :)
I just realized... I've been stuck in a thinking rut. I latched onto one
solution that works well in some case but didn't fully examine the nuances of
your own scenario. Given the way you are creating your hierarchy you will
ultimately retrieve all rows. As such the following simple solution will do
what you need:
?php
$company = 1;
$query =
SELECT DISTINCT
. *
.FROM
. tiers
.WHERE
. company = {$company} ;
$root = array();
if( $db-query( $query ) )
{
while( ($row = $db-fetchRow()) )
{
$focus =$root;
for( $i = 1; $i= 14; $i++ )
{
$name = $row['tier'.$i];
if( !isset( $focus[$name] ) )
{
$focus[$name] = array();
}
$focus =$focus[$name];
}
}
}
$json = JSON_encode( $root );
?
The crux of it is:
$focus = $focus[$name];
because it facilitates moving deeper and deeper into the array.
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-24 01:09 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]The crux of it is:
$focus =$focus[$name];
[/snip]
It works as I expect so far. All I have to do is figure out how to make the
element a name: element in the JSON. for instance an element would look like
this
{
name: Bob,
children: []
}
So the PHP array would have to look like this -
$json = array (
name = Bob,
children = array (
name = Angie
)
)
and so on. This is for one of the services that will consume the JSON.
A little tweak here... a little tweak there:
?php
//
// Establish the root.
//
$company = 1;
$query =
SELECT DISTINCT
. *
.FROM
. tiers
.WHERE
. company = {$company} ;
$root = array();
if( $db-query( $query ) )
{
while( ($row = $db-fetchRow()) )
{
$focus = $root;
for( $i = 1; $i = 14; $i++ )
{
$name = $row['tier'.$i];
if( !isset( $focus[$name] ) )
{
$focus[$name] = array
(
'name' = $name,
'children' = array(),
);
}
$focus = $focus[$name]['children'];
}
}
}
$json = JSON_encode( $root );
?
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Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-24 04:11 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
One more little tweak may be required. The JSON looks like this
{Executives and Management:{name:Executives and Management,children:{
The first part {Executives and Management: needs to be removed. I think I
know what to do.
[/snip]
It has become painfully obvious that I do not know what to do. Ready to call it
a day. Besides I just burned my finger setting up the smoker for the ribs.
It's a necessary part of building the structure. It can be removed but
only as a post process. Why does it have to be removed? You can loop
through the structure in JavaScript without paying heed to the key's value.
If it absolutely must go... you need to recurse through the final
structure replacing each children entry with the results of passing it
through array_values().
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] foreach weirdness
On 12-03-23 11:16 AM, Arno Kuhl wrote:
The following snippet is copied from the php manual:
foreach ($arr as $key = $value) {
echo Key: $key; Value: $valuebr /\n;
}
I've always used the foreach loop that way.
But recently I started hitting some really odd problems.
See this following example that illustrates the problem:
$array = array(0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6);
foreach ($array as $index=$value) {
if ( ($index+1) count($array) ) {
$array[$index+1] += $value;
}
echo $value. ;
}
echo br /;
foreach ($array as $index=$value) {
echo $value. ;
}
You'd expect the output to be:
0 1 3 6 10 15 21
0 1 3 6 10 15 21
But it's actually:
0 1 2 3 4 5 6
0 1 3 5 7 9 11
This is what I would expect since the value is a copy. As such, one
would expect it to be the value before you made modifications to the array.
If you assign the $value by reference in the first loop as someone pointed
out (and confirmed by the manual: As of PHP 5, you can easily modify
array's elements by preceding $value with. This will assign reference
instead of copying the value)
$array = array(0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6);
foreach ($array as $index=$value) {//- assign $value by reference
if ( ($index+1) count($array) ) {
$array[$index+1] += $value;
}
echo $value. ;
}
echo br /;
foreach ($array as $index=$value) {
echo $value. ;
}
it still does not produce the correct result:
0 1 3 6 10 15 21
0 1 3 6 10 15 15
This looks like a bug... the last row should be the same. What version
of PHP are you using? Have you checked the online bug reports?
If I watch the $array in a debugger I see odd behaviour for the last element
$array[6] when stepping through the second foreach loop.
Just before entering the second loop $array[6] == 21 which is correct.
When I move to the next line (echo $value. ;) $array[6] changes to 0 !!
As I step through the second loop $array[6] keeps on changing for each
iteration, with the following values:
0, 1, 3, 6, 10, 15, 15
And once I've left the second loop $array[6] is permanently changed from 21
to 15, even though there's no code in the second loop to change $array[6].
So what's going on here?
I confirm this by echoing $array[6] in each iteration in the second loop:
$array = array(0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6);
foreach ($array as $index=$value) {
if ( ($index+1) count($array) ) {
$array[$index+1] += $value;
}
echo $value. ;
}
echo br /;
foreach ($array as $index=$value) {
echo $array[6]. ;
}
echo br /;
echo $array[6];
the result is:
0 1 3 6 10 15 21
0 1 3 6 10 15 15
15
Note that $array[6] is still 15 even after completing the second foreach
loop.
If you break out of the second loop then $array[6] will be at whatever value
it was at the time you break out (ouch!)
If you assign the $value by reference in the second loop as well:
$array = array(0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6);
foreach ($array as $index=$value) {
if ( ($index+1) count($array) ) {
$array[$index+1] += $value;
}
echo $value. ;
}
echo br /;
foreach ($array as $index=$value) {//- assign $value by reference
echo $array[6]. ;
}
echo br /;
echo $array[6];
you finally get the correct result:
0 1 3 6 10 15 21
21 21 21 21 21 21 21
21
You can test this with multiple foreach loops and get the same results. If
you modify the array in the first foreach loop, then use an assign $value by
reference in the next 9 foreach loops to get the correct values (without
modifying the array), and then in the 10th foreach loop you don't use an
assign $value by reference (without modifying the array), the array becomes
corrupted.
I sort of understand the need to assign the $value by reference in the first
loop, but why is it also required in every subsequent loop where the array
is not being modified? Especially since all the examples in the manual show
it's not needed? It would appear that once you've modified an array's
elements in a foreach loop you always have to assign $value by reference in
any subsequent foreach loop using that array. And if you don't, not only
will you get the wrong results but the array itself is actually altered,
even if there's no code in the loop to alter it. Is that correct or is it a
bug? At what stage can you start using the array in the normal way again?
That could create hair-pulling havoc for anyone maintaining code if they
haven't noticed that somewhere previously there was code that modified the
array in a foreach loop. Maybe the answer is to always assign $value by
reference in a foreach loop regardless of what you do in that loop, but I'm
not sure what the implications are.
Here's how you should do it (IMHO) to avoid all sorts of side effects,
magic behaviour, and unnecessary complications:
?php
$array = array( 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 );
foreach( array_keys( $array ) as $index )
{
if( ($index + 1) count( $array ) )
{
Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-23 02:08 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] Your data structure doesn't appear to be very ummm normalized... Nonetheless, the following should do it: [/snip] You're absolutely correct. Unfortunately I am not the designer and cannot really do anything about it. I just have to work with what I have. Thank you very much for this - I will test it out this afternoon and let you know how it all goes. I figured it was something you had been given... just thought I'd point out the obvious :D Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-23 03:17 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
$json = JSON_encode( $root );
[/snip]
Update on my test. This works perfectly Robert - thank you very much! But there
is one small problem that I am trouble-shooting: it only goes one layer and
doesn't progress any further. I suspect it is on this section of code that I am
going to add some stuff to to see what is happening.
if( !($parents =$children) ){
break;
}
I didn't actually test it... if you have trouble figuring out the
problem feel free to send me a copy of your table (in private) and I'll
debug :)
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-23 03:22 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
$json = JSON_encode( $root );
[/snip]
Update on my test. This works perfectly Robert - thank you very much! But there
is one small problem that I am trouble-shooting: it only goes one layer and
doesn't progress any further. I suspect it is on this section of code that I am
going to add some stuff to to see what is happening.
if( !($parents =$children) ){
break;
}
It would appear that both arrays are empty on the next cycle through so the
break occurs.
Did you get any results form the database on the second run through the
query loop?
Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] foreach weirdness
On 12-03-23 02:04 PM, Arno Kuhl wrote: Hi Rob I'm using php 5.3.5. What result do you get when you run this code? I haven't checked any bug reports, I'll google to see where I would do that. Your code gets round the problem, but I was specifically referring to the use of foreach with its unexpected side-effects. I know... but when I first started doing things like what you tried to do, there were no references for foreach values and so I've just naturally been in the habit of explicitly accessing the values in the array by index. Apparently that will serve me well since my stuff won't blow up with this bug ;) There are a few different designs like look-ahead where it seemed the obvious way to go. I know I've used this type of foreach coding in the past, and have this nagging feeling there's a whole bunch of code just waiting to explode. I always just assumed it worked because it's pretty simple. I'd previously been caught out forgetting the assign by reference in the foreach loop that modified the array but I always caught it long before it went live, but I never considered having to also use assign by reference in subsequent foreach loops because it so obviously wasn't necessary. Now I'm searching through my scripts to see if there are any potential problems caused by this (already found one), and wondering what else I've done where I no longer have access to the sources. BTW I'm told on another forum this issue has been discussed multiple times on this mailing list - did I miss it? Was there a resolution? I must have missed it too... but then I've not been very active in the past year or so :) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-23 03:28 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
On Mar 23, 2012, at 2:25 PM, Robert Cummings wrote:
On 12-03-23 03:17 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
$json = JSON_encode( $root );
[/snip]
Update on my test. This works perfectly Robert - thank you very much! But there
is one small problem that I am trouble-shooting: it only goes one layer and
doesn't progress any further. I suspect it is on this section of code that I am
going to add some stuff to to see what is happening.
if( !($parents =$children) ){
break;
}
I didn't actually test it... if you have trouble figuring out the problem feel
free to send me a copy of your table (in private) and I'll debug :)
I had it backwards. Both arrays are empty and the break should not occur
because they are equal to each other. Let me send you a portion of the table
Robert.
No, I'm performing assignment... intentionally. Parent's becomes the
previous children to move down a level. The following:
if( !($parents = $children) )
performs assignment and an empty array check in one statement.
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-23 03:52 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
SELECT DISTINCT `TIER3DATA` AS id, `TIER2DATA` AS parentId FROM
`POSITION_SETUP` WHERE `COMPANY_ID` = '3' AND `TIER2DATA` IN ('Executives and
Management','Professionals','Technicians','Craft
Workers-Skilled','Operatives','Contractor','Sales Workers','Laborers and
Helpers','Admin Support')
and it is empty.
[/snip]
I figured out part of the problem - the for loop starts at tier2 instead of
tier1
It's meant to since outside the loop we address tier 1 when we generate
the root and first set of parents (These have no parent ID so they are a
special case).
Once I made that change I get the following error:
Fatal error: Cannot use string offset as an array in
/home/orcadept/public_html/poschart/json_chart.php on line 139
Line 139 is $item['children'][$id] =$child;
$item['children'] should be an array, somehow a string has been assigned :/
Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] foreach weirdness
On 12-03-23 06:30 PM, Simon Schick wrote: 2012/3/23 Robert Cummingsrob...@interjinn.com On 12-03-23 11:16 AM, Arno Kuhl wrote: it still does not produce the correct result: 0 1 3 6 10 15 21 0 1 3 6 10 15 15 This looks like a bug... the last row should be the same. What version of PHP are you using? Have you checked the online bug reports? Hi, Robert Does not seem like a bug to me ... http://schlueters.de/blog/archives/141-References-and-foreach.html What you should do to get the expected result: Unset the variable after you don't need this reference any longer. Ah yes... that clued me in. I disagree with the article's generalization with respect to references since references accomplish some things that cannot be accomplished otherwise, but even I missed the fact that the second loop was using a variable that was a reference to the last element of the array as created in the first loop *lol*. The user's very act of checking their results was confounding the result... I love it :) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-23 05:41 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
[-- DELETED GARBAGE --] :)
I just realized... I've been stuck in a thinking rut. I latched onto one
solution that works well in some case but didn't fully examine the
nuances of your own scenario. Given the way you are creating your
hierarchy you will ultimately retrieve all rows. As such the following
simple solution will do what you need:
?php
$company = 1;
$query =
SELECT DISTINCT
. *
.FROM
. tiers
.WHERE
. company = {$company} ;
$root = array();
if( $db-query( $query ) )
{
while( ($row = $db-fetchRow()) )
{
$focus = $root;
for( $i = 1; $i = 14; $i++ )
{
$name = $row['tier'.$i];
if( !isset( $focus[$name] ) )
{
$focus[$name] = array();
}
$focus = $focus[$name];
}
}
}
$json = JSON_encode( $root );
?
Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-22 11:28 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
...stuff...
[/snip]
Here is the explanation for what I have done and what I am trying to do
- (based on the customer's request).
A week or so ago I took a set of queries from one table and made them
into an unordered list. This will be pseudo-code so that you get idea.
SELECT DISTINCT column1 FROM table
WHERE company = '1'
while($column1 = mysql_fetch_array($query1results)){
SELECT DISTINCT column2 FROM table
WHERE company = '1'
AND column1 = $column1[0]
while($column2 = mysql_fetch_array($query2results)){
SELECT DISTINCT column3 FROM table
WHERE company = '1'
AND column2 = $column2[0]
}
}
This continues for up to 14 columns of data. I'm not worried about the
recursive data retrieval, I have that part and like I said - I can
output a nested unordered list from it quite handily.
Now the customer wants JSON as the output. The JSON must reflect the
children properly.
So I have two choices, a multidimensional array that I can use
json_encode() on or output a string that ultimately forms the JSON. We
have all agreed that doing an array would be the best thing but I cannot
wrap my head around it.
If you have more questions fire away - I'd love to get this solved and
off of my plate.
Fix this code... I've come across codebases that did this specific type
of nested querying and it resulted in 1 queries to the database on
every page. Instead, create a layered approach:
1. Select your root elements.
2. Loop over in PHP and create an array of child IDs.
3. Select the children from the database.
4. Go to step 2.
This way you will only every perform depth number of queries.
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-22 11:58 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
Fix this code... I've come across codebases that did this specific
type of nested querying and it resulted in 1 queries to the
database on every page. Instead, create a layered approach:
1. Select your root elements.
2. Loop over in PHP and create an array of child IDs.
3. Select the children from the database.
4. Go to step 2.
This way you will only every perform depth number of queries.
[/snip]
I see what you're saying but I don't know that this reduces the number
of queries - it just handles them in a different order. How do I get to
the output that I need?
It definitely reduces the queries... your current method gets all the
first level nodes in one query, then performs a query for every single
parent node. Mine only performs a query for each level in the tree. If
you have 5 nodes at the first level you will perform 6 queries. Mine
will perform 2.
To generate the nesting structure at each level you track the level
members. Something like the following (untested pseudoish):
?php
$parents = query_for_first_level();
$root = $parents;
while( $parents )
{
$parentIds = array();
foreach( $parents as $parent )
{
$parentIds[$parent['id']] = $parent['id'];
}
$children = query_for_children( $parentIds );
foreach( $children as $child )
{
$parents[$child['parentId']]['children'][] = $child;
}
$parents = $children;
}
$jsonData = JSON_encode( $root );
?
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-22 11:58 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] Fix this code... I've come across codebases that did this specific type of nested querying and it resulted in 1 queries to the database on every page. Instead, create a layered approach: 1. Select your root elements. 2. Loop over in PHP and create an array of parent IDs. 3. Select the children from the database. 4. Go to step 2. This way you will only every perform depth number of queries. [/snip] I see what you're saying but I don't know that this reduces the number of queries - it just handles them in a different order. How do I get to the output that I need? Sorry, I just realized I didn't make the optimization explicitly obvious... when I say Select the children I mean to select them using an IN( id1, id2, id3 ) clause instead of a query for each. This is why we build the array of parent IDs (also I wrote build an array of child IDs, it should have read parent IDs and has been fixed above :). Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-22 12:34 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] Sorry, I just realized I didn't make the optimization explicitly obvious... when I say Select the children I mean to select them using an IN( id1, id2, id3 ) clause instead of a query for each. This is why we build the array of parent IDs (also I wrote build an array of child IDs, it should have read parent IDs and has been fixed above :). [/snip] SELECT DISTINCT children FROM table WHERE column1 IN(id1, id2, id3) ? I am sure I am not following you now. Maybe I didn't explain clearly? What's the field for which you are selecting data? I've written this up as a parent/child relationship but it works for data/sub-data relationships also. SELECT itemId, otherData FROM table WHERE some condition; SELECT itemId, subData FROM otherTable WHERE itemId IN (id1, id2, ...); Then just link up the sub-data to the primary data in a loop and finally generate your JSON. Does that clarify? Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-22 01:06 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote: On 3/22/2012 11:40 AM, Robert Cummings wrote: What's the field for which you are selecting data? I've written this up as a parent/child relationship but it works for data/sub-data relationships also. SELECT itemId, otherData FROM table WHERE some condition; SELECT itemId, subData FROM otherTable WHERE itemId IN (id1, id2, ...); Then just link up the sub-data to the primary data in a loop and finally generate your JSON. Does that clarify? [/snip] I must confess that the raging sinus headache and my general confusion makes this really unclear for me today. Maybe I should just set it aside for a day or so. I am super dense today. Rest might do you well on a number of levels :) For each level I am selecting for each parent in the level above. Let's say that level 2 contains 8 people. Level 3 contains 14 people. Only some of the 14 belong to the 8 and must be associated properly. So how can I, with one query, associate level 3' 8th, 9th and 10th people with level 2's 6th person keeping in mind that the 9th person might also belong to level 2's 4th person. At one point you indicated all the data was coming from one table. Can you send me the table fields and indicate which fields are used to determine parent child relationship? Also 2 sample rows of data which have a relationship would be helpful. Just link up the sub-data? Place this array into a child array of the parent array? Again I apologize - maybe I should push away and let the customer know that it'll be a couple of more days. Yeah... child array... 'children' :) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-22 03:54 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
At one point you indicated all the data was coming from one table. Can you send
me the table fields and indicate which fields are used to determine parent
child relationship? Also 2 sample rows of data which have a relationship would
be helpful.
[/snip]
Columns - tier1, tier2, tier3, tier4 etc. (ends with tier14)
Children of tier1 are tier2 -
select distinct tier2 from table where tier1 = foo and company = 1
select distinct tier2 from table where tier1 = bar and company = 1
etc.
Children of tier2 are tier3, etc.
tier1 tier2 tier3
1, executive, ceo,ceo
1, executive, vp-ops, vp-ops
1, executive, vp-admin, vp-admin mgr
1, executive, vp-admin, vp-admin ops mgr
1, executive, vp-admin, vp-admin mgr
1, executive, vp-admin, vp-admin clerk
1, professionalpro-mgr pro-admin
1, professionalpro-IT pro-dev
1, professionalpro-IT pro-infra
1, professionalpro-IT pro-dev
1, technician tech-admin tech-admin mgr
1, technician tech-opstech-ops mgr
Thanks for all of your help. I know I am being a PITA.
Your data structure doesn't appear to be very ummm normalized...
Nonetheless, the following should do it:
?php
//
// Establish the root.
//
$company = 1;
$query =
SELECT DISTINCT
. tier1 AS id
.FROM
. tiers
.WHERE
. company = {$company} ;
$root = array();
$children = array();
if( $db-query( $query ) )
{
while( ($row = $db-fetchRow()) )
{
$id = $row['id'];
unset( $child );
$child = array
(
'id' = $id,
'parentId' = false,
'children' = array();
);
$root[$id] = $child;
$children[$id][] = $child;
}
}
//
// Establish the nested levels.
//
for( $tier = 2; $tier = 14; $tier++ )
{
if( !($parents = $children) )
{
break;
}
$parentTier = $tier - 1;
$parentIds = array();
foreach( array_keys( $parents ) as $parentId )
{
$parentIds[$parentId] = $db-quote( $parentId );
}
$query =
SELECT DISTINCT
. tier{$tier} AS id,
. tier{$parentTier} AS parentId
.FROM
. tiers
.WHERE
. company = {$company}
. AND
. tier{$parentTier} IN (.implode( ',', $parentIds ).) ;
if( $db-query( $query ) )
{
unset( $children );
$children = array();
while( ($row = $db-fetchRow()) )
{
$id = $row['id'];
$pid = $row['parentId'];
unset( $child );
$child = array
(
'id' = $id,
'parentId' = $pid,
'children' = array();
);
$children[$id][] = $child;
foreach( $parents[$pid] as $items )
{
foreach( $items as $item )
{
$item['children'][$id] = $child;
}
}
}
}
}
$json = JSON_encode( $root );
?
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] set_error_handler() only triggering every Nth time
On 12-03-22 03:57 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote: Resending since I didn't get a single reply. Maybe it got lost? -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 5:58 PM I am implementing a custom error handler and started noticing some bizarre behavior. Every Nth time I refresh the page, I see the error/output. Have you tried sending headers that disable caching? Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-21 03:52 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] I would, yes, but that's not the point. Is Anna single? I'm ready to trade Debs in for a newer model. [/snip] I'm thinking that Debs would upset your array if you traded her in. Anyhow, I have spent the last hour trying to output valid JSON but the whole thing is making me barking mad. I may try create a multidimensional array here in a little bit. After I go for a walk. Hi Jay, Why are you trying to create the JSON structure in parts? When I have nesting like this i build the full nested structure as PHP, then export to JSON. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thinking out loud - a continuation...
On 12-03-21 04:42 PM, Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] Why are you trying to create the JSON structure in parts? When I have nesting like this i build the full nested structure as PHP, then export to JSON. [/snip] As PHP? An array? Yeah sorry... you know what I meant ;) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] CMS identification
On 12-03-18 06:42 PM, Stuart Dallas wrote: On 18 Mar 2012, at 22:32, Alain Roger wrote: ok so here it is: http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd277/alainroger/cms-login.png Pass, not one I'm familiar with and a Google Image search for cms login doesn't show anything similar. If I were you I'd tell him to give me access to it so I can have a look for myself. On google image search click on the camera icon... then paste in the URL with the screen shot. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Arrays: Comma at end?
On 12-02-07 02:50 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: Was there ever a time when having a comma at the end of the last array element was not acceptable in PHP? I just did a few quick tests: https://gist.github.com/1761490 ... and it looks like having that comma ain't no big deal. I can't believe that I always thought that having the trailing comma was a no-no in PHP (maybe I picked that up from my C++ classes in college? I just don't remember where I picked up this (bad) habit). I would prefer to have the trailing comma... I just can't believe I have avoided using it for all these years. JavaScript in Internet Crapsplorer spanks you on the bottom every time you have a trailing comma in a JS array. That may be where you picked up the aversion. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Arrays: Comma at end?
On 12-02-08 01:12 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Robert Cummingsrob...@interjinn.com wrote: JavaScript in Internet Crapsplorer spanks you on the bottom every time you have a trailing comma in a JS array. That may be where you picked up the aversion. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Micky Hulsergmi...@gmail.com wrote: I am just surprised that there wasn't an older version of PHP that did not allow this... I must have picked up this habit via my JS coding knowledge. :D Jinx! You owe me a Coke!!! :) The timestamps above clearly show I was first ;) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Long Live GOTO
On 12-02-06 04:07 AM, Tim Streater wrote: On 06 Feb 2012 at 07:47, Adam Richardsonsimples...@gmail.com wrote: While not purely focused on PHP, I toss this out to the group because I believe there are some novel, interesting points regarding the potential benefits of using the goto construct as implemented in PHP: http://adamjonrichardson.com/2012/02/06/long-live-the-goto-statement/ Your val_nested() function looks like a straw-man to me. I've not used a goto since I stopped writing in FORTRAN in 1978, and not missed it [1]. Neither do I ever have deeply nested if-then-else - these are a good source of bugs. I suppose the rest of your article might have been dealing with simplifying val_nested() but TBH I wasn't interested enough to find out. [1] Not quite true - a Pascal compiler I once had to use in 1983 lacked a return statement, so I had to fake it by putting a 999: label at the end of the function and goto-ing to that. Goto has it's uses, demonizing it due to the poor implementation and misuse of it's same-named historical counterparts is an exercise in closed-mindedness. Goto can really shine in parsers and various other scenarios. While the example shown may be contrived it doesn't miss the point. Since goto cannot jump out of the function nor jump into the function it is well constrained to provide readability while eliminating complexity. Additionally, it is quite likely that it is more optimal. A single jump target versus one or more state variables to control nested conditionals or loops results in faster execution (also important for parsers). I've had a strong opinion on goto for a very long time. I was one of the proponents who argued on internals for its inclusion several years ago. I stand by its utility and refer the reader to the fact that many open source projects, especially ones that use some kind of parser, have goto hidden within their implementation. You can find it in the C code for the PHP, MySQL, and Apache to name a few easily recognizable projects. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Long Live GOTO
On 12-02-06 11:58 AM, Tim Streater wrote:
On 06 Feb 2012 at 09:48, Adam Richardsonsimples...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 4:25 AM, Adam Richardsonsimples...@gmail.comwrote:
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Tim Streatert...@clothears.org.uk wrote:
I disagree that the nested function is a straw-man. I (just as the other
authors I'd linked to describing the arrow pattern of code) have seen
plenty of examples of similar code.
I guess what I meant was, that I'd never have written it that way in the first
place, so as an example it felt contrived. Amateurs or people with no training
(in particular physicists at CERN 40 years ago) should be kept well clear of
the goto. I'd probably write your function like this:
function val_nested ($name = null, $value = null, $is_mutable = false)
{
static $values = array();
static $mutables = array();
if ($name===null) return $values;
if ($value===null) return isset($values[$name]) ? $values[$name] : null;
[-- SNIPP --]
I always add blank lines for clarity. Remove those and the above is 30% shorter
than yours - as far as I could tell, none of the else clauses was required.
My approach is:
1) deal with the trivial and error cases first
Some say you should never return early from a function... I too think
that early returns can improve the readability of a function--
especially if they are short snippets of logic that clearly indicate the
reason for an early exit (usually edge case constraints).
:)
Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] Re: Long Live GOTO
On 12-02-06 11:35 AM, Alain Williams wrote: On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 09:28:10AM -0700, Larry Martell wrote: On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Alain Williamsa...@phcomp.co.uk wrote: If I survey my code I find that I use one GOTO in about 4,000 lines of code - that I do not find excessive. There are, however, people who consider any GOTO as communion with the devil. IMHO: not so - if used sparingly. Just for another data point, the FAA does not allow gotos in any code that goes into an airplane. And your point is ? It just means that someone in the FAA does not like GOTO. If you can come up with their reasoned argument for the ban I will look at it, but without that the data point does not have much value - IMHO. The date for when the ban was imposed might be interesting too... perhaps it hasn't been revisited since the 70s. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Reading only RGB portion of an image, file_get_conents minus file headers etc
On 12-01-23 01:32 PM, Alex Nikitin wrote: If you don't mind me asking, if you want performance, which is kind of essential if you are processing a large number of files, why are you doing it in PHP? -- The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it’s too late. ~Seymour Cray Hi Alex, If you're processing a large number of files, the bottleneck could just as likely be the hard drive read/write and not so much PHP. And what's a large number of files? 50? 100? 1000? 100? Remember, PHP internal functions are usually wrappers around compiled C code... the shuffling around in the PHP engine itself can be quite tiny. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Reading only RGB portion of an image, file_get_conents minus file headers etc
On 12-01-23 09:29 PM, Alex Nikitin wrote: Have you done image processing? In my experience, with image generation, photography and processing, typically you are bound by resources when processing large amount of files than your connection, or sometimes even disk io. It really depends on what you're doing with images, if it's intensive processing that's already implemented in the gd or imagick library to which you can just punt, then how much overhead do you think PHP is really going to add since these are C implemented libraries? Sure, if you are manipulating pixels one by one within your PHP code you may be running into resource issues, but for scaling images, or cropping, or even clipping and overlaying... you're not usually doing a whole lot within PHP itself. The love is happening in the C code in these cases. This is why when working with these libs you get a resource handle and not a string. The resource handle almost certainly maps to a native GD or imagick structure. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] number_format
On 11-12-19 11:08 AM, Bastien Koert wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Floyd Reslerfres...@adex-intl.com wrote: In the previous version of PHP we were using, I could pass a string to number_format and it would just change it to a 0 without complaint. With 5.3.6 I get an expects double error. I don't suppose there's a way to make it work like it used to??? I'm dealing with really old code that wasn't very well structured. Thanks! Floyd -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Could you check it before formatting? Or if the data is coming from the db, force it to 0 if null? $var = (is_double($number_var)) ? $number_var : 0; Or possibly: ?php number_format( (float)$your_input, 2 ); ? Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Preferred Syntax
On 11-12-17 09:42 AM, Eric Butera wrote: Hi Adam, Thanks for the reply, noted! I was coming from the angle that I've had to deal with a lot of code that is 2000 lines of php/html/javascript inside heredocs, mixed quote escaping, etc. I was hoping to prevent that from becoming a new thing in this persons code if that was the case. Apologies for assuming. I understand that point of view, but your overarching statement of using full separation of presentation and logic at all times is wrong in the general case. Sometimes a 10 line script of mixed logic and presentation is just what the doctor ordered... but that might happen more often when doing small concise command-line scripts :) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Preferred Syntax
On 11-12-15 02:50 AM, Ross McKay wrote: On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:59:46 -0500, Rick Dwyer wrote: Can someone tell me which of the following is preferred and why? echo a style='text-align:left;size:14;font-weight:bold' href='/ mypage.php/$page_id'$page_name/abr; echo a style='text-align:left;size:14;font-weight:bold' href='/ mypage.php/.$page_id.'.$page_name./abr; [...] Just to throw in yet another possibility: echoHTML a style=text-align:left;size:14;font-weight:bold href=/mypage.php/$page_id$page_name/abr HTML; I love HEREDOC for slabs of HTML, sometimes SQL, email bodies, etc. because they allow you to drop your variables into the output text without crufting up the formatting with string concatenation, AND they allow you to use double quotes which can be important for HTML attributes that may contain single quotes. So whilst either above option is fine for the specific context, I prefer HEREDOC when there's attributes like href. But what is preferred is rather dependent on the preferrer. Heredoc and Nowdoc are nice but I hate the way they muck up my indentation aesthetics. As such when I use them I use as minimalist a terminator as possible: ?php echo _ a href=foo.htmlBlah blah blah/a _; ? Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Preferred Syntax
On 11-12-14 01:10 PM, David Harkness wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Rick Dwyerrpdw...@earthlink.net wrote: Can someone tell me which of the following is preferred and why? echo a style='text-align:left;size:**14;font-weight:bold' href='/mypage.php/$page_id'$**page_name/abr; echo a style='text-align:left;size:**14;font-weight:bold' href='/mypage.php/.$page_id.**'.$page_name./abr; On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Peter Fordp...@justcroft.com wrote: Horses for courses. I use whatever I feel like at the time, and mix various styles, as long as it's readable! I agree with Peter here. I would bet that the string with embedded variables is parsed once when the file is loaded and turned into the same bytecode as the second form. If you are going to use the second style above, I would at least switch the quotes around so you can use the double-quotes in the HTML as that to me reads nicer and avoids the minor cost of scanning the string for embedded code. I also put spaces around the dots to make the variable concatenation easier to spot when skimming it. echo 'a style=text-align:left;size:**14;font-weight:bold href=/mypage.php/' . $page_id . '' . $page_name .'/abr'; +1 on the use of single quotes instead of double quotes. With a bytecode cache it's not really going to make a lick of difference, but using double quotes for HTML seems far more palatable to me. I too like to pull the variable out into code space. I also like to format my attributes for easy reading and commenting: echo 'a' .' style=text-align:left;size:**14;font-weight:bold' .' href=/mypage.php/'.$page_id.'' .'' .$page_name .'/a' .'br /'; Although, I usually only do the above for tags that have lots of attributes. Otherwise the following is more likely: echo 'div class=some-class' .'Something something' .'/div'; As I said before though, a bytecode cache with any degree of optimization should make any particular style have zero impact on runtime (beyond original parse) by optimizing the strings into a minimal set of operations. For instance 'foo'.'fee' would be coverted to 'foofee' by the bytecode engine. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] How to use a variable variable with an array
On 11-12-14 01:11 AM, Laruence wrote:
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Nils Leidecknils.leid...@leidex.net wrote:
Hi Al,
many thanks for your feedback. Unfortunately I don’t know the deepness of the
array so I can’t use the nested foreach() idea :-( Let me try to simplify my
question (which also helps myself to clarify my process ;-)
I have a variable where the value is a string that is exactly the path to the
array value:
[code]
$arrayPath = ['user_interface’][‘design']['my_colors']['item_number_one’]”;
[/code]
And I have an array that has all the details:
[code]
$myArray = coolFunction(‘getArray’);
[/code]
The question is, how can I use these both informations to return a value from
the $myArray?
Examples I tried unsuccessfully:
[code]
[...]
echo $myArray$arrayPath;
echo $myArray{$arrayPath};
echo $myArray${arrayPath};
echo $myArray${$arrayPath};
echo $myArray.$arrayPath;
echo $myArray.$arrayPath;
[...]
[/code]
etc...
your feedback is much much much appreciated!!!
Cheers, Nils
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for you quesion, try eval:
?php
$arr = array(a=array(b=array(c)));
$key = ['a']'['b];
$value = eval(return \$arr. $key .;);
?
ps: your requirement is a little odd :)
If the solution is to use eval() then you've almost certainly come up
with the wrong answer.
To get the desired answer you can either use recursion to recursively
index the array as necessitated by the path or you can use references
to incremententally step through the array. Example:
?php
$path = 'path/to/data/in/my/arbitrarily/deep/array';
$array = $someBigFatArray;
$focus = $array();
foreach( explode( '/', $path ) as $step )
{
if( isset( $focus[$step] ) )
{
$focus = $focus[$step];
}
else
{
unset( $focus );
$focus = null;
break;
}
}
echo $focus;
?
You can wrap this puppy in a function too... and it will be faster than
the recursive version someone else wrote because it doesn't incur the
overhead of multiple function calls (for depths greater than 1).
Recursion is great, recursion is elegant, computer science professors
love recursion, but it can also be a resource pig and PHP doesn't do
tail recursion :)
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] inotify
Not to my knowledge. On 11-12-08 10:52 AM, Floyd Resler wrote: Is there any way to get who moved a file, deleted a file, etc. from inotify? I search and couldn't find a way but thought someone on the list might know. Thanks! Floyd -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Sniping on the List
On 11-11-19 03:14 AM, Lester Caine wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: It's Friday... traditionally content anal-ness has been somewhat disregarded on this day. Need one go through the archives to see if you're being a tad hypocritical? Although it only seems to be this latest thread that seems to have got totally OTT even for a Friday. And I think 'Friday Distraction' is a fairly recent development that was never every Friday ... I have the archive since 2004 on-line here and it sort of started on 09, but there were only a few each year - usually over the summer? And most of them were realistic tangential discussions rather than totally anal. Personally, this last one has become irritating and obviously others find the same thing? I don't know... I haven't heard from many on the list and there seems to be as many responding as wishing it would stop. That said, why re-hash it on a Saturday (or as the case may be... so close to Saturday). Were you hoping to continue it over the weekend? Also, you say it seems to have started around 2009... that's almost 3 years. I consider that a fairly long standing trend and not quite as recent as you make it sound. I've been on this list in one form or another since 2000... I'd say for the most part these kinds of conversations crop up with fair regularity. I'm not saying every day, but often enough that I don't understand the sudden whining-- and as I've also pointed out, there's likely a degree of hypocrisy afoot. Either way, I'm done with the thread, enjoy your weekend. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Sniping on the List
On 11-11-18 05:15 AM, Tim Streater wrote: On 18 Nov 2011 at 05:40, Robert Cummingsrob...@interjinn.com wrote: without a proof it's just farts in the wind :) No more valid than a theory of creation or the big ass spaghetti thingy majingy dude. Folded The theory of creation is not a theory. It's a hypothesis, as is scientific creationism. From Merriam-Webster's online dictionary: Hypothesis - Synonyms: theory, proposition, supposition, thesis http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypothesis Thus before the big bang is perfectly valid whether we could perceive it or not. Not really. It's as meaningless as asking what's north of the North Pole. No, this is a false analogy. Again from Merriam-Webster: north pole: the northernmost point of the earth As such, by definition there can be no further north than the north pole. No such equivalent exists for the big bang event. Beginning of the universe? YES. Beginning of time? NO! Given the discussion, I think the following is in order: BAZINGA * 2 Thank you, I won't be here all day! Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Sniping on the List
On 11-11-18 10:03 AM, Curtis Maurand wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: Given the discussion, I think the following is in order: BAZINGA * 2 And what does any of this have to do with PHP? It's time to end this thread. It's Friday... traditionally content anal-ness has been somewhat disregarded on this day. Need one go through the archives to see if you're being a tad hypocritical? Cheese, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Sniping on the List
On 11-11-17 11:33 AM, HallMarc Websites wrote: To all: Okay, so now that we have had people reply, here's my take. The Unix timestamp started on 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 + -- and that was a Thursday. The second before (i.e., 31 December, 1969 23:59:59:59 + ) was null, which was Wednesday. I take issue with this. The second before was -1 seconds from the epoch. Null is the absence of a value, so you can't get to null by simple arithmetic. I learnt about negative numbers from the Greeks. And no, I'm not going to comment on their current mathematical difficulties. Hmm. D'oh! But the point still stands: -1 !== null. -Stuart What if we were to throw in quantum duality in here? Null and !Null at the same time False Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Sniping on the List
On 11-11-17 06:24 PM, Fredric L. Rice wrote: Consider this -- do you think the second before the Big Bang was negative or null? I don't know. There's no point concerning ourselves with unanswerable questions. The question itself is a logical absurdity since there was no time prior to the Big Bang. The advent of time began when the dimention we perceive as the passage of time froze out of folded reality during the expansion phases's symmertry breaking period, there is not only no answer to what happened before, even suggesting there *was* a before is not possible. It's another nail in the coffin of deity constructors. By you're reasoning since I did not exist before 1974 then time itself could not possibly have existed before then either since I was not in existence to perceive it. That's as ludicrous as suggesting time did not exist before the big bang (presuming this model is correct). Also, them's some fancy shmancy words you're slinging about up there, but without a proof it's just farts in the wind :) No more valid than a theory of creation or the big ass spaghetti thingy majingy dude. Folded shmeality and phases of whatsyamacallit may well be true, but provability of the non-existence of time before the big bang theory is not provable by this model. However, what is valid is to take a point of reference in time and infer a period before it. Thus before the big bang is perfectly valid whether we could perceive it or not. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Sniping on the List
On 11-11-18 12:40 AM, Robert Cummings wrote: On 11-11-17 06:24 PM, Fredric L. Rice wrote: Consider this -- do you think the second before the Big Bang was negative or null? I don't know. There's no point concerning ourselves with unanswerable questions. The question itself is a logical absurdity since there was no time prior to the Big Bang. The advent of time began when the dimention we perceive as the passage of time froze out of folded reality during the expansion phases's symmertry breaking period, there is not only no answer to what happened before, even suggesting there *was* a before is not possible. It's another nail in the coffin of deity constructors. By you're reasoning since I did not exist before 1974 then time itself could not possibly have existed before then either since I was not in existence to perceive it. That's as ludicrous as suggesting time did not exist before the big bang (presuming this model is correct). Also, them's some fancy shmancy words you're slinging about up there, but without a proof it's just farts in the wind :) No more valid than a theory of creation or the big ass spaghetti thingy majingy dude. Folded shmeality and phases of whatsyamacallit may well be true, but provability of the non-existence of time before the big bang theory is not provable by this model. However, what is valid is to take a point of reference in time and infer a period before it. Thus before the big bang is perfectly valid whether we could perceive it or not. The following pretty much sums up the entire argument: http://shorl.com/tebrakefesahe Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] {} forms
On 11-11-16 09:27 AM, Richard Quadling wrote:
On 16 November 2011 13:56, Tim Streatert...@clothears.org.uk wrote:
I'm looking at the source of a web sockets server and I see these various forms:
ws://{$host}{$path}
HTTP/1.1 ${status}\r\n
Are these simply equivalent to:
ws:// . $host . $path
HTTP/1.1 . $status . \r\n;
and if so, is there any particular benefit to using that form? Or if not, what
do they mean?
(I've read up about variable variables).
If you want to embed $array[CONSTANT], then the {} is used.
I use {} out of habit for non arrays. Not sure if there is an impact.
The braces are also used when the characters following the variable are
also valid variable name characters :)
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] Variable question
On 11-10-01 02:03 PM, Mike Mackintosh wrote:
On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Ron Piggott wrote:
If $correct_answer has a value of 3 what is the correct syntax needed to use
echo to display the value of $trivia_answer_3?
I know this is incorrect, but along the lines of what I am wanting to do:
echo $trivia_answer_$correct_answer;
$trivia_answer_1 = “1,000”;
$trivia_answer_2 = “1,250”;
$trivia_answer_3 = “2,500”;
$trivia_answer_4 = “5,000”;
Ron
www.TheVerseOfTheDay.info
Best bet would to toss this into either an object or array for simplification,
otherwise that type of syntax would need the use of eval.
example: eval('echo $trivia_answer_'.$correct_answer.';');
best bet would be to..
$trivia_answer = array();
$trivia_answer[1] = 1000;
$trivia_answer[2] = 1250;
$trivia_answer[3] = 2500;
$trivia_answer[4] = 5000;
echo $trivia_answer[$correct_answer];
Agreed the OP's value list isn't optimal, but eval is not needed to
address the solution:
?php
$trivia_answer_1 = 1,000;
$trivia_answer_2 = 1,250;
$trivia_answer_3 = 2,500;
$trivia_answer_4 = 5,000;
$answer
= isset( ${'trivia_answer_'.$correct_answer} )
? ${'trivia_answer_'.$correct_answer}
: 'Not found';
echo $answer.\n;
?
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Rob.
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Re: [PHP] Re: Repetitive answers . . .
On 11-09-15 09:31 PM, Joshua Stoutenburg wrote:
class baboon
{
$ammo = '';
public __construct($ammo)
{
$this-ammo = $ammo;
}
public function flingAt($target)
{
$target-flingAlert($this-ammo);
}
}
$me = new baboon($information);
$you = new baboon();
$me-flingAt($you);
I'm sorry, but this is unnacceptably ambiguous. Due to the poor design I
don't know whether to duck or open my mouth for a treat. Let's make the
program a bit more flexible and useful...
?php
class baboon extends mammal
{
public function fling( $something, $target )
{
$target-flingAlert( $something, $target );
}
public function openMouth()
{
echo Aaah\n;
}
public function evade()
{
if( rand( 1, 100 ) = 70 )
{
echo Pheeew! That was close.\n;
}
else
{
echo SPLAT!\n;
}
}
public function flingAlert( $something, $target )
{
switch( $something )
{
case 'treat':
{
$this-openMouth();
break;
}
default:
{
$this-evade();
break;
}
}
}
}
$me = new baboon();
$you = new baboon();
$me-fling( 'scooby snack', $you );
$me-fling( 'poo', $you );
?
I love Friday :)
Cheers,
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Re: [PHP] Episode 2 - All The Cool Kids Use Ruby
On 11-09-16 02:30 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GpOfwbFRcs LOLercopter That's just fantastic! Have a great weekend. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] What would you like to see in most in a text editor?
On 11-09-13 03:56 PM, Brad Huskins wrote: Hello all you php coders out there, I'm doing an Open Source text editor (just a hobby) that's designed for PHP developers and is accessible through the web. This has been stewing for a while, and has gotten to the point where I can use it for my own work. I would like any feedback on things that people really like/dislike about their current editors, as I believe some of these things could be resolved in mine. I currently have username/password protection (with Salted-Hash passwords), a file-system browser, file loading/saving, and syntax highlighting -- and these things seem to work reasonably well. As well, most things about the editor are scriptable with JavaScript. This would seem to imply that in a few weeks I would have something useful. So I would like to get some feedback on what features people would most want, since I am still at a very flexible stage in development. If you would like to see what I have, you can go to un1tware.wordpress.com. You can also peruse the code at github.com/bhus/scriptr. In particular, the README on github gives a little bit better rationality for why something like this might be useful, and how things are currently structured. I'm a big fan of editors that work in the terminal. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Repetitive answers . . .
On 11-09-09 02:19 PM, Joshua Stoutenburg wrote: Is there a way to reconfigure gmail settings to prevent this? Yes, just filter all PHP mail to junk. But in all reality, I can't imagine an email filter, short of genius AI, that could determine that one message was the best answer and then automatically remove all others that follow. Cheers, Rob -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Repetitive answers . . .
On 11-09-09 02:24 PM, George Langley wrote: On 2011-09-09, at 11:34 AM, Marc Guay wrote: That low-hanging fruit is too hard for some to resist... --- Phishing is a art. Did anyone notice it's Friday? Oblig: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUntx0pe_qI Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Code should be selv-maintaining!
On 11-08-31 08:20 PM, Tedd Sperling wrote: On Aug 30, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: On 11-08-30 11:36 AM, Richard Quadling wrote: On 30 August 2011 15:04, Tedd Sperlingtedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote: To all: I prefer the Whitesmiths style: http://rebel.lcc.edu/sperlt/citw229/brace-styles.php But style is really up to the individual -- what works best for you is the best (unless it's a team effort or the clients demand). Cheers, tedd At last Someone's code I could read without having to reformat it every bloody time!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indent_style#Whitesmiths_style You're just saying that so Tedd will be your friend!! Come now, let's be honest with everyone... Whitesmith's is -GLEE! ;) Cheers, Rob. No, not indenting braces is T LYY. Make things uniform -- a condition followed by indented code located between equally indented braces makes sense to me. How people read other code styles is a mystery to me. Come now Tedd! It's only Thursday and yet you jest so!! :) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Code should be selv-maintaining!
On 11-09-01 01:44 AM, Ross McKay wrote: On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:04:54 -0400, Tedd Sperling wrote: I prefer the Whitesmiths style: http://rebel.lcc.edu/sperlt/citw229/brace-styles.php But style is really up to the individual -- what works best for you is the best (unless it's a team effort or the clients demand). I note on your page that you prefer Whitesmiths (truly ugly!) style even for JavaScript. I'd strongly recommend against that, and also Allman style, due to semicolon insertion. e.g. (randomly selected from Google) http://encosia.com/in-javascript-curly-brace-placement-matters-an-example/ http://robertnyman.com/2008/10/16/beware-of-javascript-semicolon-insertion/ Sure, instances of the problem are minimal, but if you're in the habit of Dangerous Open Brace Placement then you just might fall afoul of it. Besides, my editor (Geany) folds code mostly neatly with KR :) That's because JavaScript is broken in some ways. As much as I like JavaScript, some parts of the language were thrown together by flinging crap at a fan and seeing what sticks to the wall... this being a prime example. Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Code should be selv-maintaining!
On 11-09-01 02:39 AM, Ross McKay wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: That's because JavaScript is broken in some ways. As much as I like JavaScript, some parts of the language were thrown together by flinging crap at a fan and seeing what sticks to the wall... this being a prime example. Sounds a lot like PHP :) which I must add I love dearly, though it certainly resembles your remark much more closely than JavaScript. But on-topic, novices using a coding style and feeling their way around a new language would be better served by the 1TB style than anything that easily allows statement insertion (either by them, or by silly language defects like JavaScript's semicolon insertion). Oh for sure, it's necessary that novices have something towards which they can evolve. If they start with Allman's then how could they improve their brace style :) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Code should be selv-maintaining!
On 11-08-30 11:36 AM, Richard Quadling wrote: On 30 August 2011 15:04, Tedd Sperlingtedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote: To all: I prefer the Whitesmiths style: http://rebel.lcc.edu/sperlt/citw229/brace-styles.php But style is really up to the individual -- what works best for you is the best (unless it's a team effort or the clients demand). Cheers, tedd At last Someone's code I could read without having to reformat it every bloody time!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indent_style#Whitesmiths_style You're just saying that so Tedd will be your friend!! Come now, let's be honest with everyone... Whitesmith's is -GLEE! ;) Cheers, Rob. -- E-Mail Disclaimer: Information contained in this message and any attached documents is considered confidential and legally protected. This message is intended solely for the addressee(s). Disclosure, copying, and distribution are prohibited unless authorized. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
