Re: PilCon yesterday - the screen share hassle

2021-09-22 Thread pd
Hello,

I don't have a stablished opinion because don't know so much about current
platforms and services. So I really don't care while enjoying good service
during the meeting.

As far as I know, twitch deletes video recordings after a while and this
may be an advantage or an inconvenient

I think the better platform would be that on which Alex feel more
comfortable.

I still think it should be a good idea to record the meetings and publish
them in a video repository such as youtube, vimeo or a similar one.  I've
done a test recording a meeting and publishing it in vimeo and I see it's
possible, the problem is I cannot attend every meeting, it would be great
having several people who could cover the recording.

One problem is the duration of the meeting that ends in a long video file,
difficult to upload, in my tests it exceed the length allowed by youtube.
You always can remaster the video changing quality or size or even cutting
it in pieces but all this is quite tedious.

greets.


On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 11:49 AM O.Hamann  wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> would be great to have shared Tmux via SSH again in PilCon meetings!
>
> It would be no problem to provide a payed Zoom Meeting Room without the
> need of reconnecting after 40minutes, but I'm not sure what the
> community thinks about not using the selfhosted (many thanks to
> beneroth!) Jitsi server.
>
> What do others think?
>
> Or could it be a way, to announce certain 'screenshare-required PilCon
> Session taking place on ... ...' if necessary, but in general continue
> with jitsi and ssh terminal?
>
> What about other (commercial) solutions, which promise more data
> security, like www.teamviewer.com/en/meeting ?
>
> I can't technically judge, what teamviewer claims (see below), but in
> general European or Germamny based companies have to obey more rules
> concerning data and privacy awareness, I think.
>
> They say:
> "Unlike other online meeting tools, TeamViewer Meeting provides a GDPR
> and HIPAA compliant platform with RSA 4096 public/private key exchange
> and 256-bit end-to-end encrypted videoconference calls, designed to
> protect sensitive, highly confidential information. Lock meetings and
> add meeting passwords to keep uninvited guests out of private discussions"
>
>
> For me it would be worth a few bucks per month to provide a stable
> screen sharing session for our PilCon Meetings, but I also would like to
> *not* exclude anyone because of choosing inacceptable tools.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Olaf
>
>
> On 21.09.21 11:27, Alexander Burger wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > yesterday's PilCon was a bit chaotic. Sorry for that!
> >
> > I found out why the shared Tmux via SSH did not work. It was a file
> permission
> > problem. Should be OK next time.
> >
> > Screen share in Jitsi is a persistent hassle. It locks up for some
> clients, and
> > sharing from my Android phone sometimes does not work at all, and
> sometimes gets
> > incredibly slow. Any ideas?
> >
> > Please send me questions for the next PilCon a few days earlier, so that
> I can
> > search for examples and use cases!
> >
> > ☺/ A!ex
> >
>
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Re: Autumn Lisp Game Jam 2021

2021-09-22 Thread Mike
September 21, 2021 6:57 PM, "Jean-Christophe Helary" 

wrote:

> It might be off-topic here, if so, let me know, I won't do it again :-)
> 
> "Autumn Lisp Game Jam 2021"
> https://itch.io/jam/autumn-lisp-game-jam-2021
> 

I already have several games in my collection:
o) 2048
o) greed autoplay
https://rosettacode.org/wiki/Greed#PicoLisp
https://asciinema.org/a/369181

(mike)

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Re: PilCon yesterday

2021-09-22 Thread dexen deVries
>   1. Mobile App (Android)
>   2. Screen sharing

both work fine.

there's also website with full functionality and a desktop app (an electron
app); both for desktop users. in my limited experience the whole ecosystem
is faster and lighter weight than Slack.


Re: PilCon yesterday

2021-09-22 Thread Alexander Burger
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 11:55:08AM +0200, dexen deVries wrote:
> Discord would be a good option - streaming at 720p is free, and people can
> join through website, skipping registration or app installation, if they
> wish so.
> 
> Also multiple people can stream for the same audience, when need be.

Cool! My main concern is

   1. Mobile App (Android)
   2. Screen sharing

How is this on Discord?

☺/ A!ex

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Re: PilCon yesterday - the screen share hassle

2021-09-22 Thread Alexander Burger
Hi Olaf,

> It would be no problem to provide a payed Zoom Meeting Room without the
> ...
> What do others think?

Or, as we tried yesterday, we could use Google Meet. I has a timeout of 40
minutes. We could post the session in #picolisp IRC (and thus accessible by
everyone not in IRC via https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/picolisp) and
perhaps even re-connect after that time.

I really liked the screen sharing of GMeet, worked like a charm.

☺/ A!ex

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Re: PilCon yesterday

2021-09-22 Thread dexen deVries
Discord would be a good option - streaming at 720p is free, and people can
join through website, skipping registration or app installation, if they
wish so.

Also multiple people can stream for the same audience, when need be.


Re: PilCon yesterday - the screen share hassle

2021-09-22 Thread O.Hamann
Hi Alex,

would be great to have shared Tmux via SSH again in PilCon meetings!

It would be no problem to provide a payed Zoom Meeting Room without the
need of reconnecting after 40minutes, but I'm not sure what the
community thinks about not using the selfhosted (many thanks to
beneroth!) Jitsi server.

What do others think?

Or could it be a way, to announce certain 'screenshare-required PilCon
Session taking place on ... ...' if necessary, but in general continue
with jitsi and ssh terminal?

What about other (commercial) solutions, which promise more data
security, like www.teamviewer.com/en/meeting ?

I can't technically judge, what teamviewer claims (see below), but in
general European or Germamny based companies have to obey more rules
concerning data and privacy awareness, I think.

They say:
"Unlike other online meeting tools, TeamViewer Meeting provides a GDPR
and HIPAA compliant platform with RSA 4096 public/private key exchange
and 256-bit end-to-end encrypted videoconference calls, designed to
protect sensitive, highly confidential information. Lock meetings and
add meeting passwords to keep uninvited guests out of private discussions."


For me it would be worth a few bucks per month to provide a stable
screen sharing session for our PilCon Meetings, but I also would like to
*not* exclude anyone because of choosing inacceptable tools.

What do you think?

Kind Regards,

Olaf


On 21.09.21 11:27, Alexander Burger wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> yesterday's PilCon was a bit chaotic. Sorry for that!
>
> I found out why the shared Tmux via SSH did not work. It was a file permission
> problem. Should be OK next time.
>
> Screen share in Jitsi is a persistent hassle. It locks up for some clients, 
> and
> sharing from my Android phone sometimes does not work at all, and sometimes 
> gets
> incredibly slow. Any ideas?
>
> Please send me questions for the next PilCon a few days earlier, so that I can
> search for examples and use cases!
>
> ☺/ A!ex
>

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