Re: picolisp at last ?

[Mike]

July 14, 2018 1:36 PM, "O.Hamann"  wrote:

> Outdated thread, but just to keep my promise:
> 
> - dusty rasp has 64bit picolisp running, examined by (== 64 64) ==> T
> 
> - *CPU shows 'emu'
> 
> Os is a 64bit archlinux.

archlinux should work out of box, what i would do:

# install archlinux
# pacman -Sy reflector
# reflector --latest 10 --protocol https --sort rate --save 
/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
# pacman -Syu
# reboot 

pil32:
# wget http://software-lab.de/picoLisp.tgz
# gunzip picoLisp.tgz
# tar xf picoLisp.tar
# cd picoLisp/src
# make
# cd ../bin
# vim pil -> "change path to picoLisp"
# head -1 pil
   #!/home/mpech/picoLisp/bin/picolisp /home/mpech/picoLisp/lib.l

# add picoLisp/bin dir to $PATH inside your shell
# pil +
: (version)
18.7.14 C
-> (18 7 14)
: (== 1 1)
-> NIL
: *OS
-> "Linux"
# pil "@lib/test.l" +
OK

pil64 after it:
# cd picoLisp/src64
# make
# pil +
 (version)
18.7.14
-> (18 7 14)
: (== 1 1)
-> T
: *OS
-> "Linux"
# pil "@lib/test.l" +
OK



compile pil64 without pil32:
# cd picoLisp/src64
# make clean
# cd ../
# wget http://software-lab.de/x86-64.linux.tgz
# gunzip x86-64.linux.tgz
# tar xf x86-64.linux.tar
# cd src64/
# make
# pil +
: (version)
18.7.14
-> (18 7 14)
: (== 1 1)
-> T
: *OS
-> "Linux"
: 

Happy coding,

(mike)

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Re: picolisp at last ?

[Alexander Burger]

Hi Olaf,

> Outdated thread, but just to keep my promise:
> - dusty rasp has 64bit picolisp running, examined by (== 64 64) ==> T
> - *CPU shows 'emu'
> Os is a 64bit archlinux.

I see. So it built emu as it could not find a matching Makefile entry.

A native version would be preferrable if possible. 64 bit Linux on
an Arm64 I would think.

—Alex

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Re: picolisp at last ?

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

Thank you !

I've managed to run picolisp on my old RP and sshed to it. :)
Thank you for getting back to the thread !

Jean-Christophe 

> On Jul 14, 2018, at 19:28, O.Hamann  wrote:
> 
> Outdated thread, but just to keep my promise:
> 
> - dusty rasp has 64bit picolisp running, examined by (== 64 64) ==> T
> 
> - *CPU shows 'emu'
> 
> Os is a 64bit archlinux.
> 
> Regards, Olaf
> 
> 
> On 14.06.2018 15:15, O.Hamann wrote:
>> [...] - if I will find a 64bit picolisp on the dusty raspberry at home,
>> 
>> I will report.
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> Olaf
>> 
>> 
>> On 14.06.2018 08:39, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
>>> Now, I'm thinking, what if I get a Raspberry 3 (64bit arm processor) ? I'd 
>>> have a dedicated machine, no virtualization overhead and I'd just need to 
>>> ssh to it from the Mac to access picolisp.
>>> 
>>> Anybody has run picolisp in such an environment?
>>> 
>>> Jean-Christophe


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Re: picolisp at last ?

[O.Hamann]

Outdated thread, but just to keep my promise:

- dusty rasp has 64bit picolisp running, examined by (== 64 64) ==> T

- *CPU shows 'emu'

Os is a 64bit archlinux.

Regards, Olaf


On 14.06.2018 15:15, O.Hamann wrote:

[...] - if I will find a 64bit picolisp on the dusty raspberry at home,

I will report.

Greetings,

Olaf


On 14.06.2018 08:39, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
Now, I'm thinking, what if I get a Raspberry 3 (64bit arm processor) 
? I'd have a dedicated machine, no virtualization overhead and I'd 
just need to ssh to it from the Mac to access picolisp.


Anybody has run picolisp in such an environment?

Jean-Christophe






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Re: picolisp at last ?

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

> On Jun 16, 2018, at 20:46, Alexander Williams  wrote:
> 
> JC: wasn't your goal to use PicoLisp 64-bit? ;)

No the goal was to run it on the Mac, which *happens* to be 64bit :)

> I also have an RPi2, and can power it from the MacBook but there's always a 
> spinning rainbow in the top left corner of the display (low power). If you're 
> not connecting external USB disks, it should be fine.

You're right, that's probably not the best idea. I'm checking external 
batteries at the moment. Fascinating the amount of accessories there are for 
the RP...

JC
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Re: picolisp at last ?

[Alexander Williams]

JC: wasn't your goal to use PicoLisp 64-bit? ;)

I'm actually using a ROCK64 (arm64) daily, and of course run PicoLisp 
64-bit on here. In terms of specs, it's **much** better than RPi3, but 
support is...


I also have an RPi2, and can power it from the MacBook but there's always 
a spinning rainbow in the top left corner of the display (low power). If 
you're not connecting external USB disks, it should be fine.



AW

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:




On Jun 14, 2018, at 22:55, Jean-Christophe Helary  wrote:


On Jun 14, 2018, at 22:15, O.Hamann mailto:o.ham...@gmx.net>> wrote:

I'm no really sure at the moment about 64bit picolisp,

but for 32bit  I  did that several years ago.


Now that I think about it, I do have an old 32bit RP that's gathering dust. 
It's probably a RP 1 so it runs on ARM 6 and...
The appropriate version of Raspian does have picolisp :)


Ok, after dusting off the unit and installing the latest raspbian, I managed to 
install picolisp, but not the most recent version, for that I need to 
reconfigure the keymap so that I can type properly with that usb Japanese 
keyboard :) Once I get the most recent repositories referenced, I'll have 1.7.. 
Then configure ssh and I'll be able to run the thing directly connected to the 
router. Pretty exciting :) I'm even wondering if I can't power the thing 
directly from the MacBookPro's usb port...


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Re: picolisp at last ?

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

> On Jun 14, 2018, at 22:55, Jean-Christophe Helary  
> wrote:
> 
>> On Jun 14, 2018, at 22:15, O.Hamann > > wrote:
>> 
>> I'm no really sure at the moment about 64bit picolisp,
>> 
>> but for 32bit  I  did that several years ago.
> 
> Now that I think about it, I do have an old 32bit RP that's gathering dust. 
> It's probably a RP 1 so it runs on ARM 6 and...
> The appropriate version of Raspian does have picolisp :)

Ok, after dusting off the unit and installing the latest raspbian, I managed to 
install picolisp, but not the most recent version, for that I need to 
reconfigure the keymap so that I can type properly with that usb Japanese 
keyboard :) Once I get the most recent repositories referenced, I'll have 1.7.. 
Then configure ssh and I'll be able to run the thing directly connected to the 
router. Pretty exciting :) I'm even wondering if I can't power the thing 
directly from the MacBookPro's usb port...


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---
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Re: picolisp at last ?

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

> On Jun 14, 2018, at 22:15, O.Hamann  wrote:
> 
> I'm no really sure at the moment about 64bit picolisp,
> 
> but for 32bit  I  did that several years ago.

Now that I think about it, I do have an old 32bit RP that's gathering dust. 
It's probably a RP 1 so it runs on ARM 6 and...
The appropriate version of Raspian does have picolisp :)

I'll try that later this month...

Jean-Christophe Helary
---
http://mac4translators.blogspot.com @brandelune

Re: picolisp at last ?

[O.Hamann]

I'm no really sure at the moment about 64bit picolisp,

but for 32bit  I  did that several years ago.

Was archlinux for that platform and compiled picolisp by myself.

Worked nearly out of the box with a few compiler settings,

which were documented in the picolisp section of mail-archive.com

https://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=raspberry=picolisp%40software-lab.de

These all talk about 32bit picolisp, I think - if I will find a 64bit 
picolisp on the dusty raspberry at home,


I will report.

Greetings,

Olaf


On 14.06.2018 08:39, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
Now, I'm thinking, what if I get a Raspberry 3 (64bit arm processor) ? 
I'd have a dedicated machine, no virtualization overhead and I'd just 
need to ssh to it from the Mac to access picolisp.


Anybody has run picolisp in such an environment?

Jean-Christophe



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Re: picolisp at last ?

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

Now, I'm thinking, what if I get a Raspberry 3 (64bit arm processor) ? I'd have 
a dedicated machine, no virtualization overhead and I'd just need to ssh to it 
from the Mac to access picolisp.

Anybody has run picolisp in such an environment?

Jean-Christophe 

> On Jun 14, 2018, at 15:20, Jean-Christophe Helary  
> wrote:
> 
> Alexander,
> 
> What I'm finding is interesting. When I start pil and just stay inactive, 
> TinyCore uses about 5-6% of the cpu on qemu, while Debian works at about 
> 3-4%. In both cases I only installed a minimal system and I work on the CLI.
> 
> Jean-Christophe 
> 
>> On Jun 14, 2018, at 1:26, Alexander Williams > > wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry for the late reply.
>> 
>> JC I think you probably downloaded TinyCore 32-bit (x86) by accident. You 
>> need the 64-bit version: http://www.tinycorelinux.net/9.x/x86_64/release/ 
>> 
>> 
>> Get the ISO file "TinyCorePure64-9.0.iso" (27MB) and boot your VM from that. 
>> If you only want "headless" (no X), then you can try the 
>> "CorePure64-9.0.iso" (14MB).
>> 
>> Another option, if you don't mind paying, you can rent a VPS server for US 
>> $5/mo from Linode (or maybe OVH?). I was connecting to that over SSH for my 
>> 64-bit PicoLisp development (Debian 64-bit).
>> 
>> 
>> AW
>> 
>> On Tue, 12 Jun 2018, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 12, 2018, at 18:42, Jean-Christophe Helary >>> > wrote:
> The only issue with this setting is that to run picolisp I have an 
> overhead of ~5% cpu use just to run VB headless.
 
 Trying to do everything again in qemu, to see the total cpu use...
>>> 
>>> Ok, debian is *super slow* to install under qemu. The positive thing is 
>>> that the cpu overhead seems to hover around 3% and there is no need to 
>>> access the headless machine via rdp (which adds yet another overhead + a 
>>> messed up keyboard layout once the machine is available in Xquartz).
>>> 
>>> I so wish picolisp were running on macos directly, but I guess that will do 
>>> for now...
>>> 
>>> Jean-Christophe Helary
>>> ---
>>> http://mac4translators.blogspot.com  
>>> @brandelune
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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> @brandelune
> 
> 

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Re: picolisp at last ?

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

Alexander,

What I'm finding is interesting. When I start pil and just stay inactive, 
TinyCore uses about 5-6% of the cpu on qemu, while Debian works at about 3-4%. 
In both cases I only installed a minimal system and I work on the CLI.

Jean-Christophe 

> On Jun 14, 2018, at 1:26, Alexander Williams  wrote:
> 
> Sorry for the late reply.
> 
> JC I think you probably downloaded TinyCore 32-bit (x86) by accident. You 
> need the 64-bit version: http://www.tinycorelinux.net/9.x/x86_64/release/
> 
> Get the ISO file "TinyCorePure64-9.0.iso" (27MB) and boot your VM from that. 
> If you only want "headless" (no X), then you can try the "CorePure64-9.0.iso" 
> (14MB).
> 
> Another option, if you don't mind paying, you can rent a VPS server for US 
> $5/mo from Linode (or maybe OVH?). I was connecting to that over SSH for my 
> 64-bit PicoLisp development (Debian 64-bit).
> 
> 
> AW
> 
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2018, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 12, 2018, at 18:42, Jean-Christophe Helary  
>>> wrote:
 The only issue with this setting is that to run picolisp I have an 
 overhead of ~5% cpu use just to run VB headless.
>>> 
>>> Trying to do everything again in qemu, to see the total cpu use...
>> 
>> Ok, debian is *super slow* to install under qemu. The positive thing is that 
>> the cpu overhead seems to hover around 3% and there is no need to access the 
>> headless machine via rdp (which adds yet another overhead + a messed up 
>> keyboard layout once the machine is available in Xquartz).
>> 
>> I so wish picolisp were running on macos directly, but I guess that will do 
>> for now...
>> 
>> Jean-Christophe Helary
>> ---
>> http://mac4translators.blogspot.com @brandelune
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: picolisp at last ?

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

Alexander, thank you very much for getting back to me !

I'll try that with Qemu later (probably faster to install than even a minimum 
Debian install :)

JC

> On Jun 14, 2018, at 1:26, Alexander Williams  wrote:
> 
> Sorry for the late reply.
> 
> JC I think you probably downloaded TinyCore 32-bit (x86) by accident. You 
> need the 64-bit version: http://www.tinycorelinux.net/9.x/x86_64/release/
> 
> Get the ISO file "TinyCorePure64-9.0.iso" (27MB) and boot your VM from that. 
> If you only want "headless" (no X), then you can try the "CorePure64-9.0.iso" 
> (14MB).
> 
> Another option, if you don't mind paying, you can rent a VPS server for US 
> $5/mo from Linode (or maybe OVH?). I was connecting to that over SSH for my 
> 64-bit PicoLisp development (Debian 64-bit).
> 
> 
> AW
> 
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2018, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 12, 2018, at 18:42, Jean-Christophe Helary  
>>> wrote:
 The only issue with this setting is that to run picolisp I have an 
 overhead of ~5% cpu use just to run VB headless.
>>> 
>>> Trying to do everything again in qemu, to see the total cpu use...
>> 
>> Ok, debian is *super slow* to install under qemu. The positive thing is that 
>> the cpu overhead seems to hover around 3% and there is no need to access the 
>> headless machine via rdp (which adds yet another overhead + a messed up 
>> keyboard layout once the machine is available in Xquartz).
>> 
>> I so wish picolisp were running on macos directly, but I guess that will do 
>> for now...
>> 
>> Jean-Christophe Helary
>> ---
>> http://mac4translators.blogspot.com @brandelune
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: picolisp at last ?

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

> On Jun 12, 2018, at 18:42, Jean-Christophe Helary  
> wrote:
>> The only issue with this setting is that to run picolisp I have an overhead 
>> of ~5% cpu use just to run VB headless.
> 
> Trying to do everything again in qemu, to see the total cpu use...

Ok, debian is *super slow* to install under qemu. The positive thing is that 
the cpu overhead seems to hover around 3% and there is no need to access the 
headless machine via rdp (which adds yet another overhead + a messed up 
keyboard layout once the machine is available in Xquartz).

I so wish picolisp were running on macos directly, but I guess that will do for 
now...

Jean-Christophe Helary
---
http://mac4translators.blogspot.com @brandelune

Re: picolisp at last ?

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

> On Jun 12, 2018, at 18:12, Jean-Christophe Helary  
> wrote:
> 
> Ok, I re-installed Debian in VirtualBox, installed only the basic utilities 
> and am accessing the thing headless to connect to my account and run 
> picolisp. It must be the first time I find some use for XQuartz :)
> 
> The only issue with this setting is that to run picolisp I have an overhead 
> of ~5% cpu use just to run VB headless.
> 
> Wondering if there is a virtual solution that uses less CPU, because I can 
> let this run on battery...

Trying to do everything again in qemu, to see the total cpu use...


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---
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Re: picolisp at last ?

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

Ok, I re-installed Debian in VirtualBox, installed only the basic utilities and 
am accessing the thing headless to connect to my account and run picolisp. It 
must be the first time I find some use for XQuartz :)

The only issue with this setting is that to run picolisp I have an overhead of 
~5% cpu use just to run VB headless.

Wondering if there is a virtual solution that uses less CPU, because I can let 
this run on battery...

JC

> On Jun 12, 2018, at 15:28, Arie van Wingerden  wrote:
> 
> OK.
> My WSL installation is Ubuntu based.
> Could you try e.g. Lubuntu in a VM?
> 
> I got a recent version of PicoLisp just installing it using apt, and it works 
> well ...
> 
> Op ma 11 jun. 2018 23:31 schreef Jean-Christophe Helary  >:
> 
> 
>> On Jun 12, 2018, at 2:36, Arie van Wingerden > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jean-Christophe,
>> 
>> what host system are you using?
> 
> macOS. I was brandelune on IRC :)
> 
> JC
> 
>> If on Windows 10 with the last april update WSL is really stable!
>> And PicoLisp works just fine.
>> There are a few "limits" in that some features do not exist in WSL, e.g. 
>> there is no /etc/passwd file and such.
>> For the rest all works OK.
>> 
>> Best,
>>Arie
>> 
>> 2018-06-11 16:55 GMT+02:00 Jean-Christophe Helary > >:
>> Does anybody has better results with tinycorelinux ?
>> 
>> JC
>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 22:25, Jean-Christophe Helary >> > wrote:
>>> 
 On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:28, Alexander Williams >>> > wrote:
 
 +1 TinyCore,
 
 I use it for most of my work and testing Linux applications.
 
 I'm also the "maintainer" of PicoLisp on TinyCore (64-bit only), so you
 can install it (v17.12) with:
 
  tce-load -wi picolisp picolisp-lib picolisp-doc
>>> 
>>> I'm having a 404 error on the main tinycorelinux repository... :(

Re: picolisp at last ?

[Arie van Wingerden]

OK. Good to hear you succeeded :)

2018-06-12 9:36 GMT+02:00 Jean-Christophe Helary :

>
>
> On Jun 12, 2018, at 15:28, Arie van Wingerden  wrote:
>
> OK.
> My WSL installation is Ubuntu based.
> Could you try e.g. Lubuntu in a VM?
>
>
> Actually I got it working under Debian the other day. I thought that Tiny
> Core Linux was more lightweight since I'd only use Virtual box for that...
> :)
> What I'll do is just install the CL interface and install picolisp from
> there.
> Thank you for the advice.
>
>
>
> Jean-Christophe Helary
> ---
> http://mac4translators.blogspot.com @brandelune
>
>
>

Re: picolisp at last ?

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

> On Jun 12, 2018, at 15:28, Arie van Wingerden  wrote:
> 
> OK.
> My WSL installation is Ubuntu based.
> Could you try e.g. Lubuntu in a VM?

Actually I got it working under Debian the other day. I thought that Tiny Core 
Linux was more lightweight since I'd only use Virtual box for that... :)
What I'll do is just install the CL interface and install picolisp from there.
Thank you for the advice.



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---
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Re: picolisp at last ?

[Arie van Wingerden]

OK.
My WSL installation is Ubuntu based.
Could you try e.g. Lubuntu in a VM?

I got a recent version of PicoLisp just installing it using apt, and it
works well ...

Op ma 11 jun. 2018 23:31 schreef Jean-Christophe Helary <
brandel...@gmail.com>:

>
>
> On Jun 12, 2018, at 2:36, Arie van Wingerden  wrote:
>
> Hi Jean-Christophe,
>
> what host system are you using?
>
>
> macOS. I was brandelune on IRC :)
>
> JC
>
> If on Windows 10 with the last april update WSL is really stable!
> And PicoLisp works just fine.
> There are a few "limits" in that some features do not exist in WSL, e.g.
> there is no /etc/passwd file and such.
> For the rest all works OK.
>
> Best,
>Arie
>
> 2018-06-11 16:55 GMT+02:00 Jean-Christophe Helary :
>
>> Does anybody has better results with tinycorelinux ?
>>
>> JC
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 22:25, Jean-Christophe Helary 
>> wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:28, Alexander Williams 
>> wrote:
>>
>> +1 TinyCore,
>>
>> I use it for most of my work and testing Linux applications.
>>
>> I'm also the "maintainer" of PicoLisp on TinyCore (64-bit only), so you
>> can install it (v17.12) with:
>>
>>  tce-load -wi picolisp picolisp-lib picolisp-doc
>>
>>
>> I'm having a 404 error on the main tinycorelinux repository... :(
>>
>>

Re: picolisp at last ?

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

> On Jun 12, 2018, at 2:36, Arie van Wingerden  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jean-Christophe,
> 
> what host system are you using?

macOS. I was brandelune on IRC :)

JC

> If on Windows 10 with the last april update WSL is really stable!
> And PicoLisp works just fine.
> There are a few "limits" in that some features do not exist in WSL, e.g. 
> there is no /etc/passwd file and such.
> For the rest all works OK.
> 
> Best,
>Arie
> 
> 2018-06-11 16:55 GMT+02:00 Jean-Christophe Helary  >:
> Does anybody has better results with tinycorelinux ?
> 
> JC
> 
>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 22:25, Jean-Christophe Helary > > wrote:
>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:28, Alexander Williams >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> +1 TinyCore,
>>> 
>>> I use it for most of my work and testing Linux applications.
>>> 
>>> I'm also the "maintainer" of PicoLisp on TinyCore (64-bit only), so you
>>> can install it (v17.12) with:
>>> 
>>>  tce-load -wi picolisp picolisp-lib picolisp-doc
>> 
>> I'm having a 404 error on the main tinycorelinux repository... :(

Re: picolisp at last ?

[Arie van Wingerden]

Hi Jean-Christophe,

what host system are you using?
If on Windows 10 with the last april update WSL is really stable!
And PicoLisp works just fine.
There are a few "limits" in that some features do not exist in WSL, e.g.
there is no /etc/passwd file and such.
For the rest all works OK.

Best,
   Arie

2018-06-11 16:55 GMT+02:00 Jean-Christophe Helary :

> Does anybody has better results with tinycorelinux ?
>
> JC
>
>
> On Jun 7, 2018, at 22:25, Jean-Christophe Helary 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:28, Alexander Williams 
> wrote:
>
> +1 TinyCore,
>
> I use it for most of my work and testing Linux applications.
>
> I'm also the "maintainer" of PicoLisp on TinyCore (64-bit only), so you
> can install it (v17.12) with:
>
>  tce-load -wi picolisp picolisp-lib picolisp-doc
>
>
> I'm having a 404 error on the main tinycorelinux repository... :(
>
>
> Jean-Christophe Helary
> ---
> http://mac4translators.blogspot.com @brandelune
>
>

Re: picolisp at last ?

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

Does anybody has better results with tinycorelinux ?

JC

> On Jun 7, 2018, at 22:25, Jean-Christophe Helary  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:28, Alexander Williams > > wrote:
>> 
>> +1 TinyCore,
>> 
>> I use it for most of my work and testing Linux applications.
>> 
>> I'm also the "maintainer" of PicoLisp on TinyCore (64-bit only), so you
>> can install it (v17.12) with:
>> 
>>  tce-load -wi picolisp picolisp-lib picolisp-doc
> 
> I'm having a 404 error on the main tinycorelinux repository... :(
> 
> 
> Jean-Christophe Helary
> ---
> http://mac4translators.blogspot.com  
> @brandelune

Re: picolisp at last ?

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:28, Alexander Williams  wrote:
> 
> +1 TinyCore,
> 
> I use it for most of my work and testing Linux applications.
> 
> I'm also the "maintainer" of PicoLisp on TinyCore (64-bit only), so you
> can install it (v17.12) with:
> 
>  tce-load -wi picolisp picolisp-lib picolisp-doc

I'm having a 404 error on the main tinycorelinux repository... :(


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[Jean-Christophe Helary]

Excellent news !

Jean-Christophe 

> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:28, Alexander Williams  wrote:
> 
> +1 TinyCore,
> 
> I use it for most of my work and testing Linux applications.
> 
> I'm also the "maintainer" of PicoLisp on TinyCore (64-bit only), so you
> can install it (v17.12) with:
> 
>  tce-load -wi picolisp picolisp-lib picolisp-doc
> 
> AW
> 
> On 06/06/2018 05:01 PM, think live wrote:
>> TinyCore is a nice little virtual environment I have used to sandbox
>> picolisp projects. I use it with virtual box and run them headless.
>> Easy to mount external filesystems, ssh in, etc.
> 

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[Alexander Williams]

+1 TinyCore,

I use it for most of my work and testing Linux applications.

I'm also the "maintainer" of PicoLisp on TinyCore (64-bit only), so you
can install it (v17.12) with:

  tce-load -wi picolisp picolisp-lib picolisp-doc


AW

On 06/06/2018 05:01 PM, think live wrote:
> TinyCore is a nice little virtual environment I have used to sandbox
> picolisp projects. I use it with virtual box and run them headless.
> Easy to mount external filesystems, ssh in, etc.



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[Jean-Christophe Helary]

> On Jun 6, 2018, at 23:07, Alexander Burger  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jun 06, 2018 at 10:43:39PM +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
>> Btw, it is PL 1.6 that is in the Debian repositories.
> 
> Hmm, there was never a version 1.6 - perhaps 16.2?

Sorry that's what I meant :)

> Both the testing (buster) and unstable (sid) versions of Debian now have
> PicoLisp 17.12+20180218-1 (the December version with an update of February).

I'll check those repositories too. Thank you for the reminder.

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[Jean-Christophe Helary]

Nice suggestion! I'll give it a try. Thank you.

> On Jun 7, 2018, at 2:01, think live  wrote:
> 
> http://tinycorelinux.net/ 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_Core_Linux 
>   
> 
> TinyCore is a nice little virtual environment I have used to sandbox picolisp 
> projects. I use it with virtual box and run them headless.
> Easy to mount external filesystems, ssh in, etc.
> 
> /Lindsay
> 
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 5:51 AM, Jean-Christophe Helary  > wrote:
> Ok, I gave up :)
> I installed Debian in a virtual environment and then picolisp.
> I'm going to remove all the cruft to only keep a terminal and the like.


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Re: picolisp at last ?

[think live]

http://tinycorelinux.net/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_Core_Linux

TinyCore is a nice little virtual environment I have used to sandbox
picolisp projects. I use it with virtual box and run them headless.
Easy to mount external filesystems, ssh in, etc.

/Lindsay

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 5:51 AM, Jean-Christophe Helary  wrote:

> Ok, I gave up :)
> I installed Debian in a virtual environment and then picolisp.
> I'm going to remove all the cruft to only keep a terminal and the like.
>
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[Alexander Burger]

On Wed, Jun 06, 2018 at 10:43:39PM +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
> Btw, it is PL 1.6 that is in the Debian repositories.

Hmm, there was never a version 1.6 - perhaps 16.2? In any case, it looks like
you installed an ancient (means: stable) Debian.

Both the testing (buster) and unstable (sid) versions of Debian now have
PicoLisp 17.12+20180218-1 (the December version with an update of February).

♪♫ Alex

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[Jean-Christophe Helary]

> On Jun 6, 2018, at 22:01, Alexander Burger  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jean-Christophe,
> 
>> I installed Debian in a virtual environment and then picolisp.
>> I'm going to remove all the cruft to only keep a terminal and the like.
> 
> This (Debian in a VM) is probably the best way. Thanks for the info!

Btw, it is PL 1.6 that is in the Debian repositories.

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Re: picolisp at last ?

[Alexander Burger]

Hi Jean-Christophe,

> I installed Debian in a virtual environment and then picolisp.
> I'm going to remove all the cruft to only keep a terminal and the like.

This (Debian in a VM) is probably the best way. Thanks for the info!
♪♫ Alex

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[Jean-Christophe Helary]

Ok, I gave up :)
I installed Debian in a virtual environment and then picolisp.
I'm going to remove all the cruft to only keep a terminal and the like.

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