Re: [pinhole-discussion] Some New Pictures
Dirleton is near Myrtle Beach- about 10 miles south. Myrtle Beach is very close to the border with North Carolina. Most plantations are privately owned, but Dirleton was deeded to the state, and now what formerly was rice plantations are now wildlife management areas. On Wednesday 12 December 2001 09:53 pm, you wrote: Nice photos! Where is Dirleton in relation to Hilton Head? (went to the site, couldn't find which county Dirleton was in) I'll be in HH in July again, would like to do some plantation sightseeing and photography. ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Some New Pictures
Nice photos! Where is Dirleton in relation to Hilton Head? (went to the site, couldn't find which county Dirleton was in) I'll be in HH in July again, would like to do some plantation sightseeing and photography.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Some New Pictures
Jeff Your pinhole photographs were extraordinary! I totally enjoyed them. Thanks for sharing. Christine
[pinhole-discussion] Some New Pictures
Some new pictures from a recent trip to South Carolina. Dirleton Plantation: http://server1.hiddenworld.net:81/pinhole/index.php?cmd=maxstart=12pic=direleton.jpg to find out about the history of Dirleton, click here: http://www.lowcountry-sc.com/dirleton/ Sunrise on Garden City (with shrimboat on horizon): http://server1.hiddenworld.net:81/pinhole/index.php?cmd=maxstart=12pic=sunrise-garden.jpg The second shot was so bright, looking right into the sun, that I only did a 3 second exposure on TMAX 100 asa film! Joy. Rock Island State Park, near McMinnville Tennessee: http://server1.hiddenworld.net:81/pinhole/index.php?cmd=maxstart=12pic=rockisland2.jpg
Re: [pinhole-discussion] pinholing underwater
In a message dated 12/12/01 2:32:21 PM, pen...@rogers.com writes: That'd be a pee-ing camera! A zoneplate or a pinhole made à la zoneplate would prevent a stream of water coming out all the time through the pinhole. I guess there would be some compression of the image due to the different refraction index of water and air. Worth to try, indeed. See Eric Renners pickel jar camera. leezy
Re: [pinhole-discussion] pinholing underwater
In a message dated 12/12/01 11:57:05 AM, aschm...@warwick.net writes: btw...have you tried shooting on land with the camera full of water? neat! or developer (during shooting) leezy
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Home made 4x5 pinhole camera ?
In a message dated 12/11/01 6:27:17 PM, garfinkeldes...@aol.com writes: I have seen the black board paint (it is a spray paint) at Home Depot. But I am sure a smaller hardware shop would have it too. Thank you, Wendy. Thank you everyone. Happy Holiday! leezy
RE: [pinhole-discussion] pinholing underwater
I wonder if anything would come out of a .015 PH. Surface tension might just hold it in... andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of G.Penate Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:37 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] pinholing underwater - Original Message - From: Andy Schmitt aschm...@warwick.net ok Jim...I have to try it...Here I was thinking that I had to keep the film dry..silly me!! No need to pre-wet the film before processing, that's a bonus! btw...have you tried shooting on land with the camera full of water? That'd be a pee-ing camera! A zoneplate or a pinhole made à la zoneplate would prevent a stream of water coming out all the time through the pinhole. I guess there would be some compression of the image due to the different refraction index of water and air. Worth to try, indeed. Guillermo ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] pinholing underwater
- Original Message - From: Andy Schmitt aschm...@warwick.net ok Jim...I have to try it...Here I was thinking that I had to keep the film dry..silly me!! No need to pre-wet the film before processing, that's a bonus! btw...have you tried shooting on land with the camera full of water? That'd be a pee-ing camera! A zoneplate or a pinhole made à la zoneplate would prevent a stream of water coming out all the time through the pinhole. I guess there would be some compression of the image due to the different refraction index of water and air. Worth to try, indeed. Guillermo
RE: [pinhole-discussion] pinholing underwater
ok Jim...I have to try it...Here I was thinking that I had to keep the film dry..silly me!! thanks andy btw...have you tried shooting on land with the camera full of water? -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Kosinski Family Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:40 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] pinholing underwater I've been experimenting with underwater a bit using the paintcan cameras because the plastic coating allows them to be filled with water and other liquids (even bw photo chemicals, you can develop the prints right in the paintcan)... after loading securing a black tape shutter over the pinhole I fill the camera with water to keep pool, lake or stream water from entering the camera during exposure... some problems you encounter: - exposures are longer underwater - visibility is limited, you need to shoot pretty close to the subject - there is a lot of motion in water, which can shift the camera advantages: really great patterns light abstractions plus lots of fun getting wet Jim K - Original Message - From: Daniel Donnelly danieldonne...@yahoo.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 4:51 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Pinhole-Discussion digest, Vol 1 #557 - 16 msgs Has anyone any info on underwater pinhole? am interested in any examples, tips etc cheers __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] pinholing underwater
I've been experimenting with underwater a bit using the paintcan cameras because the plastic coating allows them to be filled with water and other liquids (even bw photo chemicals, you can develop the prints right in the paintcan)... after loading securing a black tape shutter over the pinhole I fill the camera with water to keep pool, lake or stream water from entering the camera during exposure... some problems you encounter: - exposures are longer underwater - visibility is limited, you need to shoot pretty close to the subject - there is a lot of motion in water, which can shift the camera advantages: really great patterns light abstractions plus lots of fun getting wet Jim K - Original Message - From: Daniel Donnelly danieldonne...@yahoo.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 4:51 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Pinhole-Discussion digest, Vol 1 #557 - 16 msgs Has anyone any info on underwater pinhole? am interested in any examples, tips etc cheers __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] estimating 'view' with homebrew pinhole cameras
I saw a pinhole camera on the Internet somewhere (Australia?) that had a wireframe 'viewfinder' on top and side. I guessed the manufacturer figured out how big to make the rectangular 'viewfinders' by trial and error. No need for trial and error. Make the front wire frame the same size as the negative and put a small viewing hole behind it the same distance as the focal length.
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Pinhole-Discussion digest, Vol 1 #557 - 16 msgs
See eric renners description in his book. - Original Message - From: Daniel Donnelly danieldonne...@yahoo.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:51 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Pinhole-Discussion digest, Vol 1 #557 - 16 msgs Has anyone any info on underwater pinhole? am interested in any examples, tips etc cheers __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] estimating 'view' with homebrew pinhole cameras
- Original Message - From: Uptown Gallery gall...@uptowngallery.org Or do we all just develop a realtionship with a particular camera from experience? Some of that is desirable of course. With my 35 mm pinhole, I used the meter on the converted camera, and pre-viewed my composition thru another SLR with the zoom set to approximate the f.l. of the 35 mm pinhole camera. I'm just not confortable 'blindly' pointing and shooting and hoping I'm not too close, not too far. That's a good method. If you are using an SLR and the pinhole is mounted on a camera body cap, you don't need a second SLR. Just mount the camera on a tripod, compose with your glass lens a expose with your pinhole one. Can an analogy be drawn between a 'normal' perspective focal length on two different formats? Say, a 50 mm f.l. lens on a 35 mm camera is about the same (whatever same means) as an 85 mm lens on a 120 / 2-1/4 camera. Yes, you can find that analogue lens based on image circle, in other words, based on finding the focal length that would give you similar angle of view for the diagonal of your format. Or, you can do it by finding the focal length that'd give you similar horizontal or vertical angle of view (that or is exclusive). This latter method is technically speaking less accurate when comparing formats having different ratios width/length. The above involves some math, more on that upon request. In your example, a 50mm lens on a 35mm format compared to 2 1/4 square format (6x6), the analogue lens based on image circle would be 98mm. Based on horizontal (landscape) angle of view it'd be 83mm and finally, based on vertical angle of view 125mm. I saw a pinhole camera on the Internet somewhere (Australia?) that had a wireframe 'viewfinder' on top and side. I guessed the manufacturer figured out how big to make the rectangular 'viewfinders' by trial and error. No need for trial an error when geometry would tell you that for a simple viewfinder, the rectangle should be exactly the same as the format size and the eye let (is this what it is called?) should be exactly one focal length distance from the rectangle. Guillermo
[pinhole-discussion] Re: Pinhole-Discussion digest, Vol 1 #557 - 16 msgs
Has anyone any info on underwater pinhole? am interested in any examples, tips etc cheers __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com
[pinhole-discussion] estimating 'view' with homebrew pinhole cameras
Hello: I know some of you will tell me to just experiment, but I am wondering if there is a way to estimate how close/far to be with a pinhole camera of a given format and focal length to estimate composition? Or do we all just develop a realtionship with a particular camera from experience? With my 35 mm pinhole, I used the meter on the converted camera, and pre-viewed my composition thru another SLR with the zoom set to approximate the f.l. of the 35 mm pinhole camera. I'm just not confortable 'blindly' pointing and shooting and hoping I'm not too close, not too far. Can an analogy be drawn between a 'normal' perspective focal length on two different formats? Say, a 50 mm f.l. lens on a 35 mm camera is about the same (whatever same means) as an 85 mm lens on a 120 / 2-1/4 camera. I saw a pinhole camera on the Internet somewhere (Australia?) that had a wireframe 'viewfinder' on top and side. I guessed the manufacturer figured out how big to make the rectangular 'viewfinders' by trial and error. Thanks Murray
