Re: [pinhole-discussion] (OT) Enlarger help?

2002-08-12 Thread Richard Heather
I use a Beseler 23cII (bought new in 1980) with a Zone VI cold light. Good
up to 6x9. I also have a huge Kodak 5x7 ( actually can do up to 7x9) floor
standing monster complete with smokestack.
Richard Heather

 Hey everyone,

 I know another off topic post, but it's kind of on topic, right? i mean,
 enlargers are often times used with pinholed negs! anyway, my question is,
 can anyone give me some advice regarding enlargers? i'm building a
darkroom
 in my basement. I'm not exactly sure where to begin when it comes to
 enlargers. i will be enlarging both color and black and white 35mm, 120,
 and hopefully other medium format negs. can anyone let me know what their
 favorites are. i am on somewhat of a budget, but i can afford a semi
 expensive piece of equiptment.

 thanks in advance,

 Steve


 --- Steve Bell






Re: [pinhole-discussion] Lith film and development

2002-08-12 Thread Scott Walker
We use lith film in the non-silver classes at UB. You can achieve normal
tonal range with very diluted dektol. Normal dilution paper developer will
not provide a full tonal range but will produce a greatly compressed tonal
scale. i've had good results with 1:5 dilutions, but i have seen people get
better results with 1:8 even 1:10. the weaken the solution the more gray
scale you'll get, but the longer you have to leave it in the developer.

I can elaborate if you want. (P:

Scott.

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Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Lith film and development



 Does anyone have info on lith film?  It looks alot cheaper than reg (trix
or
 tmax) film in 8x10.  I've heard it is devoped in paper developer.  Does
this
 work?  Is it like a normal neg in contrast?  Is this the same as orto
film?
 Thanks for the input.


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[pinhole-discussion] (OT) Enlarger help?

2002-08-12 Thread Steve Bell
Hey everyone,

I know another off topic post, but it's kind of on topic, right? i mean,
enlargers are often times used with pinholed negs! anyway, my question is,
can anyone give me some advice regarding enlargers? i'm building a darkroom
in my basement. I'm not exactly sure where to begin when it comes to
enlargers. i will be enlarging both color and black and white 35mm, 120,
and hopefully other medium format negs. can anyone let me know what their
favorites are. i am on somewhat of a budget, but i can afford a semi
expensive piece of equiptment.

thanks in advance,

Steve


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions

2002-08-12 Thread Mark Beauchamp
William Erickson wrote:

 The rolls are just in there loose, with a pressure plate that tends to push
 them out of position. The lid seems to be engineered so closely that it does
 hang up when you try to put it on. Worse than trying to load a Leica. You
 need good vision to see the numbers on the back of the film because the hole
 is so small and deep.

Hi

I have the Zero Image 2000 (6X6 version) and I find it fairly easy to load.
Place the feed spool on the brass knob, pull out some of the paper leader, feed
it into the slot on the take-up spool, give it a turn, place the take up spool
on the brass knob.  Now use two fingers to create tension between the two
spools and slide on the back.  Creating tension stops the paper from buckling
and catching on the back.  Place the top on the camera and turn the winding
knob until it lines up with the groove on the take-up spool and it falls into
place.  Tighten the lock down knob and you are ready to advance to first
frame.  Hopefully this makes some sense, though I do work as a motion picture
camera assistant and compared to some movie camera loading and threading  still
cameras don't pose much of a challenge.

I do agree that it is sometimes difficult to read the number especially in low
light due to the hole being so deep, but hey it's made of wood.

I do like this camera but do find it too fast (if this makes sense) in bright
sunlight.  You need 50 ASA film  or you find yourself with less than one second
exposures.

--Mark




Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions

2002-08-12 Thread Fox, Robert
William,

Thanks for the feedback -- can you tell me why the 6x9 multi format Zero was
so hard to load? I've heard there can be some difficulty in getting the lid
on over the film rolls. The results I've seen from this camera have been
very nice, although 5x4 beckons!

R.J.
R.J. Fox
Member Reference Team
Member Communications Mgmt.
(202) 434-3429; r...@aarp.org



Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions

2002-08-12 Thread William Erickson
I just spent a week helping a friend load his new multiformat zero etc. What
a pain! As for 4x5 vs 8x10, 4x5 gives you a lot more choices. 8x10 satisfies
the purist. Look at choices at www.pinholeresource.com.
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From: Fox, Robert r...@aarp.org
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Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:20 AM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions


 Short introduction:  I'm an amateur photographer in the Washington DC area
 shooting mostly medium format on-location portraits and architectural
stuff.
 I shoot mostly BW print, but also use transparencies (usually Fuji Provia
 100). I am fascinated by the potential of pinhole photography and am
looking
 to buy a pre-made camera after seeing the beautiful examples on the
resource
 page. I use mostly all-manual cameras, so getting into pinhole feels
pretty
 natural. I hate the way modern electronics can get in the way of the image
 making process.

 Are there any practical reasons to shoot at 4x5 rather than 8x10?  I
suppose
 it would be easy enough to do both, but I'm wondering about people's
 preferences for architectural and portrait work. The multi-format Zero2000
 looks like a good starter as well given the choice of formats for standard
 roll film.

 I must say I am blown away by the quality and creativeness of the images I
 have seen on the April 28 pinhole day gallery -- really inspiring! One of
 the best photographic events I've ever seen -- simple and powerful.

 Anyway, I'm here to learn and am glad to participate.

 R.J.









RE: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions

2002-08-12 Thread Fox, Robert
George,

Thanks your the links and information -- your images are outstanding. Your
comments about the extra costs of doing 8x10 are definitely a big issue. I
don't think I'll jump into alternative processes to get started, so roll
film should be fine for now. I'm looking forward to a new way of seeing the
world!

R.J.


-Original Message-
From: George L Smyth [mailto:glsm...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:43 AM
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions



--- Fox, Robert r...@aarp.org wrote:
[clip]
 Are there any practical reasons to shoot at 4x5 rather than 8x10?  I
suppose
 it would be easy enough to do both, but I'm wondering about people's
 preferences for architectural and portrait work. The multi-format Zero2000
 looks like a good starter as well given the choice of formats for standard
 roll film.

8X10 film is four times more expensive than 4X5 film (makes sense).  The
bulk
of an 8X10 camera, along with the slide holders, make things much more
difficult to work with.  Then again, if you are going to use an alternative
process to print, then you will probably want a larger negative to work
with. 
I've got some examples at
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/Projects/BearSkins/BearSkins.htm if you
would like to take a look.

An alternative to regular 8X10 film is to use halftone film of that size,
which
costs considerably less.  The image Jimmy (found at
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/Pinhole/Images/PinholeImages.htm) was
made
with this film.

I would also direct you to the Pinhole FAQ located at
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/Pinhole/Articles/FAQ/pin_faq.htm.  There
you
will find enough information to get you going in the right direction.

Cheers -

george

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DRiP Investing - http://DRiPInvesting.org




Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions

2002-08-12 Thread G.Penate
- Original Message -
From: Fox, Robert r...@aarp.org


 Are there any practical reasons to shoot at 4x5 rather than 8x10?

4x5 is more, well, practical: smaller, less costly to operate, easier to carry
and you don't have to get a second mortage to buy an enlarger (if you wanted
larger than 8x10 prints, and eventually you would), 4x5 enlargers are readily
available.  Also, you could buy an inexpensive real 4x5 camera and use it for
pinhole work, i.e.: grey calumet, super graphic, any of the other graphic press
cameras, etc.

  I suppose it would be easy enough to do both

That's right.   My first 8x10 was a cardboard box.

 but I'm wondering about people's
 preferences for architectural and portrait work. The multi-format Zero2000
 looks like a good starter as well given the choice of formats for standard
 roll film.

You can't go wrong with a Zero2000 they are truly functional pieces of art!

Welcome to the list.

Guillermo






Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions

2002-08-12 Thread George L Smyth
--- Fox, Robert r...@aarp.org wrote:
[clip]
 Are there any practical reasons to shoot at 4x5 rather than 8x10?  I suppose
 it would be easy enough to do both, but I'm wondering about people's
 preferences for architectural and portrait work. The multi-format Zero2000
 looks like a good starter as well given the choice of formats for standard
 roll film.

8X10 film is four times more expensive than 4X5 film (makes sense).  The bulk
of an 8X10 camera, along with the slide holders, make things much more
difficult to work with.  Then again, if you are going to use an alternative
process to print, then you will probably want a larger negative to work with. 
I've got some examples at
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/Projects/BearSkins/BearSkins.htm if you
would like to take a look.

An alternative to regular 8X10 film is to use halftone film of that size, which
costs considerably less.  The image Jimmy (found at
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/Pinhole/Images/PinholeImages.htm) was made
with this film.

I would also direct you to the Pinhole FAQ located at
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/Pinhole/Articles/FAQ/pin_faq.htm.  There you
will find enough information to get you going in the right direction.

Cheers -

george

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DRiP Investing - http://DRiPInvesting.org

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