Re: [pinhole-discussion] (OT) Enlarger help?
I use a Beseler 23cII (bought new in 1980) with a Zone VI cold light. Good up to 6x9. I also have a huge Kodak 5x7 ( actually can do up to 7x9) floor standing monster complete with smokestack. Richard Heather Hey everyone, I know another off topic post, but it's kind of on topic, right? i mean, enlargers are often times used with pinholed negs! anyway, my question is, can anyone give me some advice regarding enlargers? i'm building a darkroom in my basement. I'm not exactly sure where to begin when it comes to enlargers. i will be enlarging both color and black and white 35mm, 120, and hopefully other medium format negs. can anyone let me know what their favorites are. i am on somewhat of a budget, but i can afford a semi expensive piece of equiptment. thanks in advance, Steve --- Steve Bell
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Lith film and development
We use lith film in the non-silver classes at UB. You can achieve normal tonal range with very diluted dektol. Normal dilution paper developer will not provide a full tonal range but will produce a greatly compressed tonal scale. i've had good results with 1:5 dilutions, but i have seen people get better results with 1:8 even 1:10. the weaken the solution the more gray scale you'll get, but the longer you have to leave it in the developer. I can elaborate if you want. (P: Scott. - Original Message - From: Leonard Peterson lrp...@hotmail.com To: Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Lith film and development Does anyone have info on lith film? It looks alot cheaper than reg (trix or tmax) film in 8x10. I've heard it is devoped in paper developer. Does this work? Is it like a normal neg in contrast? Is this the same as orto film? Thanks for the input. _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
[pinhole-discussion] (OT) Enlarger help?
Hey everyone, I know another off topic post, but it's kind of on topic, right? i mean, enlargers are often times used with pinholed negs! anyway, my question is, can anyone give me some advice regarding enlargers? i'm building a darkroom in my basement. I'm not exactly sure where to begin when it comes to enlargers. i will be enlarging both color and black and white 35mm, 120, and hopefully other medium format negs. can anyone let me know what their favorites are. i am on somewhat of a budget, but i can afford a semi expensive piece of equiptment. thanks in advance, Steve --- Steve Bell --- veracity...@earthlink.net --- http://www.unbeknownst.org/~insurrective / http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/insurrection --- In fact, rock, rather than being an example of how freedom can be achieved within the capitalist structure, is an example of how capitalism can, almost without a conscious effort, deceive those whom it oppresses...So effective has the rock industry been in encouraging the spirit of optimistic youth take-over that rock's truly hard political edge, it's constant exploration of the varieties of youthful frustration, has been ignored and softened. --Michael Lydon
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions
William Erickson wrote: The rolls are just in there loose, with a pressure plate that tends to push them out of position. The lid seems to be engineered so closely that it does hang up when you try to put it on. Worse than trying to load a Leica. You need good vision to see the numbers on the back of the film because the hole is so small and deep. Hi I have the Zero Image 2000 (6X6 version) and I find it fairly easy to load. Place the feed spool on the brass knob, pull out some of the paper leader, feed it into the slot on the take-up spool, give it a turn, place the take up spool on the brass knob. Now use two fingers to create tension between the two spools and slide on the back. Creating tension stops the paper from buckling and catching on the back. Place the top on the camera and turn the winding knob until it lines up with the groove on the take-up spool and it falls into place. Tighten the lock down knob and you are ready to advance to first frame. Hopefully this makes some sense, though I do work as a motion picture camera assistant and compared to some movie camera loading and threading still cameras don't pose much of a challenge. I do agree that it is sometimes difficult to read the number especially in low light due to the hole being so deep, but hey it's made of wood. I do like this camera but do find it too fast (if this makes sense) in bright sunlight. You need 50 ASA film or you find yourself with less than one second exposures. --Mark
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions
William, Thanks for the feedback -- can you tell me why the 6x9 multi format Zero was so hard to load? I've heard there can be some difficulty in getting the lid on over the film rolls. The results I've seen from this camera have been very nice, although 5x4 beckons! R.J. R.J. Fox Member Reference Team Member Communications Mgmt. (202) 434-3429; r...@aarp.org
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions
I just spent a week helping a friend load his new multiformat zero etc. What a pain! As for 4x5 vs 8x10, 4x5 gives you a lot more choices. 8x10 satisfies the purist. Look at choices at www.pinholeresource.com. - Original Message - From: Fox, Robert r...@aarp.org To: Pinhole List (E-mail) pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:20 AM Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions Short introduction: I'm an amateur photographer in the Washington DC area shooting mostly medium format on-location portraits and architectural stuff. I shoot mostly BW print, but also use transparencies (usually Fuji Provia 100). I am fascinated by the potential of pinhole photography and am looking to buy a pre-made camera after seeing the beautiful examples on the resource page. I use mostly all-manual cameras, so getting into pinhole feels pretty natural. I hate the way modern electronics can get in the way of the image making process. Are there any practical reasons to shoot at 4x5 rather than 8x10? I suppose it would be easy enough to do both, but I'm wondering about people's preferences for architectural and portrait work. The multi-format Zero2000 looks like a good starter as well given the choice of formats for standard roll film. I must say I am blown away by the quality and creativeness of the images I have seen on the April 28 pinhole day gallery -- really inspiring! One of the best photographic events I've ever seen -- simple and powerful. Anyway, I'm here to learn and am glad to participate. R.J.
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions
George, Thanks your the links and information -- your images are outstanding. Your comments about the extra costs of doing 8x10 are definitely a big issue. I don't think I'll jump into alternative processes to get started, so roll film should be fine for now. I'm looking forward to a new way of seeing the world! R.J. -Original Message- From: George L Smyth [mailto:glsm...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:43 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions --- Fox, Robert r...@aarp.org wrote: [clip] Are there any practical reasons to shoot at 4x5 rather than 8x10? I suppose it would be easy enough to do both, but I'm wondering about people's preferences for architectural and portrait work. The multi-format Zero2000 looks like a good starter as well given the choice of formats for standard roll film. 8X10 film is four times more expensive than 4X5 film (makes sense). The bulk of an 8X10 camera, along with the slide holders, make things much more difficult to work with. Then again, if you are going to use an alternative process to print, then you will probably want a larger negative to work with. I've got some examples at http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/Projects/BearSkins/BearSkins.htm if you would like to take a look. An alternative to regular 8X10 film is to use halftone film of that size, which costs considerably less. The image Jimmy (found at http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/Pinhole/Images/PinholeImages.htm) was made with this film. I would also direct you to the Pinhole FAQ located at http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/Pinhole/Articles/FAQ/pin_faq.htm. There you will find enough information to get you going in the right direction. Cheers - george = Handmade Photographic Images - http://GLSmyth.com DRiP Investing - http://DRiPInvesting.org
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions
- Original Message - From: Fox, Robert r...@aarp.org Are there any practical reasons to shoot at 4x5 rather than 8x10? 4x5 is more, well, practical: smaller, less costly to operate, easier to carry and you don't have to get a second mortage to buy an enlarger (if you wanted larger than 8x10 prints, and eventually you would), 4x5 enlargers are readily available. Also, you could buy an inexpensive real 4x5 camera and use it for pinhole work, i.e.: grey calumet, super graphic, any of the other graphic press cameras, etc. I suppose it would be easy enough to do both That's right. My first 8x10 was a cardboard box. but I'm wondering about people's preferences for architectural and portrait work. The multi-format Zero2000 looks like a good starter as well given the choice of formats for standard roll film. You can't go wrong with a Zero2000 they are truly functional pieces of art! Welcome to the list. Guillermo
Re: [pinhole-discussion] Newbie Intro. and a few questions
--- Fox, Robert r...@aarp.org wrote: [clip] Are there any practical reasons to shoot at 4x5 rather than 8x10? I suppose it would be easy enough to do both, but I'm wondering about people's preferences for architectural and portrait work. The multi-format Zero2000 looks like a good starter as well given the choice of formats for standard roll film. 8X10 film is four times more expensive than 4X5 film (makes sense). The bulk of an 8X10 camera, along with the slide holders, make things much more difficult to work with. Then again, if you are going to use an alternative process to print, then you will probably want a larger negative to work with. I've got some examples at http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/Projects/BearSkins/BearSkins.htm if you would like to take a look. An alternative to regular 8X10 film is to use halftone film of that size, which costs considerably less. The image Jimmy (found at http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/Pinhole/Images/PinholeImages.htm) was made with this film. I would also direct you to the Pinhole FAQ located at http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hmpi/Pinhole/Articles/FAQ/pin_faq.htm. There you will find enough information to get you going in the right direction. Cheers - george = Handmade Photographic Images - http://GLSmyth.com DRiP Investing - http://DRiPInvesting.org __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com