Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re:About Casado Pinhole
Handmade Photographic Images - http://GLSmyth.com DRiP Investing - http://DRiPInvesting.org George, I wondered about two George Smyths a while back when exploring some DRiP investing information on the Motley Fool site, then I just saw that the two are, in fact, the same. Now, back to investing research having taken a break to check my pinhole related e-mail. Tom
[pinhole-discussion] wondering
About the message two days ago; a member took a pinhole image, sharpened it in Adobe or a digital method, and printed it out. I wonder why we don't just take traditional lens photographs and smear them a little and print them out to look like pinhole work. What is it that we are doing? I love pinhole photography and am retired from traditional photo studio work. So my sister asked me recently, why are you and your friends intent on taking bad pictures? I have always felt we had a kind of philosophy...we were trying to see the world, or time, or light another way. And I am not down on digitalbut it is hard to explain to non- participants that we really are doing something, and something important. If we sharpen the images to look like better conventional photos, is something being lost? The mystery? The understanding of an almost occult medium? An atempt to see what light is really doing as it hits and wraps around an object? What can I tell my sister? Jean
RE: [pinhole-discussion] Re:About Casado Pinhole
well put sir! andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of George L Smyth Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 6:02 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re:About Casado Pinhole --- John D. esq j...@johndesq.com wrote: [clip] Therefore I do think it is not fair to say it mildly, complaining about a Java prompt-box which caused confusion at an unnamed person in this group. This can happen, for some newbies only a URL can cause problems. Having said this, a kind E-mail to Joaquin could have solved all problems. I do not see what Yahoo has to do with it! As a Webmaster himself, he should know. It is not comme il faut to denigrate this product (without even seeing any Images) and criticize another Webmaster's work in public. I'm not sure what Yahoo has to do with it either(?). As the unnamed person to whom you refer, I will respond. I would have sent Joaquin an email, but there was no link to do so. I still do not know how to contact him through the website. Oftentimes people here post URLs to sites that they have created and images they are newly offering. The comments here are constructive and helpful. When giving opinions, some of us want to help the individual display their offerings in the best possible light, thus the comments about the site design. When I feel that one could better show what they have to offer, I present my opinion. A person with the greatest images in the world with an unusable website will disappoint, and be disappointed. I offered to the site designer an opinion that a link that takes one to a confusing JavaScript (not Java) prompt, as opposed to a page with the link's description, would yield lost sales. The designer of the camera is not being well server by the designer of the site. Certainly, this is information that Joaquin would like to have, as it would be unfortunate to have such an interesting design not be successful due to a failure by a Webmaster. Joaquin did indeed contact me (thanks Joaquin), so I was able to get some information from him. However, my feeling is that people find it helpful to receive feedback on all aspects of their presentation. For those photographers out there who are working on their own websites, they can only be commended for their efforts, and thanked for sharing their vision. For those camera designers who are depending upon someone else to present their wares to the world, I have a much hasher view when I see that their webmaster's design is more about their design, and less about the camera's design. Cheers - george
[pinhole-discussion] Re: Pinhole-Discussion digest, Vol 1 #810 - 12 msgs
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[pinhole-discussion] Re:About Casado Pinhole
Apologies for another statement referring to URL's where the new Casado Camera can be seen. The Site has experienced some problems when the provider was off-line for some time. This is a mirror URL :http://www.johndesq.com/dpr/casado http://www.johndesq.com/dpr/hal You will find all relevant information and Images in here. As you all know Joaquin Casado's native language is spanish and he can express himself very well in English I think. Above all he is a talented Camera designer and needs no further introduction. Therefore I do think it is not fair to say it mildly, complaining about a Java prompt-box which caused confusion at an unnamed person in this group. This can happen, for some newbies only a URL can cause problems. Having said this, a kind E-mail to Joaquin could have solved all problems. I do not see what Yahoo has to do with it! As a Webmaster himself, he should know. It is not comme il faut to denigrate this product (without even seeing any Images) and criticize another Webmaster's work in public. Happy Holidays, JohnD. Regards, John D. esq
[pinhole-discussion] WWPD site
Tom, Many thanks! That is great, and the navigation is very functional, just what I was wishing for on the 2001 page. Thanks for providing a great venue. Margaret Graham Tom Miller wrote: Hi Margaret, Thank you for bringing this problem to our attention. I forwarded this email to the site's developer and he just mentioned that he problem is fixed now. I just tried accessing the Pinhole Day gallery, both the thumbnails and full images, using IE 6 and Mozilla 1.2.1 and had no problems. The website is starting to undergo some modifications to accomodate the Third Worldwide Pinhole Photography Day, which will happen on April 27, 2003. Bumps like this might happen again. Thanks, Tom Miller WPPD 2003 Coordinator - Original Message - From: Margaret Graham mm...@drexel.edu To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Camera from Joaquin Casado and prompt box George, Given your concern for usability, I know you will want to know about the problem I'm experiencing on your site at http://www.pinholeday.org/gallery/. In attempting to view the April 28, 2002 images, I receive the following message: Fatal error: Cannot redeclare maketextimage() in /usr/www/users/pinhole/WPD/includes/setup.php on line 322 (Windows 2000, IE 5, NS 4.7 and Opera 6.01). Haven't yet tried NS6. Clues? The 2001 images are wonderful although it's a lot to click through. Margaret Graham ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Camera from Joaquin Casado and prompt box
Hi Margaret, Thank you for bringing this problem to our attention. I forwarded this email to the site's developer and he just mentioned that he problem is fixed now. I just tried accessing the Pinhole Day gallery, both the thumbnails and full images, using IE 6 and Mozilla 1.2.1 and had no problems. The website is starting to undergo some modifications to accomodate the Third Worldwide Pinhole Photography Day, which will happen on April 27, 2003. Bumps like this might happen again. Thanks, Tom Miller WPPD 2003 Coordinator - Original Message - From: Margaret Graham mm...@drexel.edu To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Camera from Joaquin Casado and prompt box George, Given your concern for usability, I know you will want to know about the problem I'm experiencing on your site at http://www.pinholeday.org/gallery/. In attempting to view the April 28, 2002 images, I receive the following message: Fatal error: Cannot redeclare maketextimage() in /usr/www/users/pinhole/WPD/includes/setup.php on line 322 (Windows 2000, IE 5, NS 4.7 and Opera 6.01). Haven't yet tried NS6. Clues? The 2001 images are wonderful although it's a lot to click through. Margaret Graham
Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Camera from Joaquin Casado and prompt box
Margaret - Actually, that is not my website (I did help lastyear, but was not selected to help this past year). I am sure that the individual maintaining the site will speak up. Cheers - george http://GLSmyth.com --- Margaret Graham mm...@drexel.edu wrote: George, Given your concern for usability, I know you will want to know about the problem I'm experiencing on your site at http://www.pinholeday.org/gallery/. In attempting to view the April 28, 2002 images, I receive the following message: Fatal error: Cannot redeclare maketextimage() in /usr/www/users/pinhole/WPD/includes/setup.php on line 322 (Windows 2000, IE 5, NS 4.7 and Opera 6.01). Haven't yet tried NS6. Clues? The 2001 images are wonderful although it's a lot to click through. Margaret Graham George L Smyth wrote: --- Guillermo pen...@rogers.com wrote: - Original Message - From: George L Smyth glsm...@yahoo.com Hmmm, okay. Very poor website design. I would like to see more pictures, get more details, maybe even find out how much it costs. I have no desire to send him an email. Anyway, I do my email through Yahoo, so this doesn't do me a whole lot of good. Too bad that something that should be so simple becomes impossible. I wonder if the camera is similarly designed. Common George, give Joaquin a break. The 1000's words the pictures in his site say speak very loud of his design and craftmanship. I said in my post that this was a PRE-ANNOUCEMENT. Joaquin sent me and a couple of other persons an email for us to PRE-VIEW his new creation, the site IS NOT meant as THE site from which he'll sell this camera, nor it is intended to ANNOUNCE the camera to the world, it says in the home page that there will be a web site coming soon. I'll stop short of saying I made a mistake with my posting of Joaquin pre-announcement to the list, Joaquin indicated to me, he was surpriced to find this morning so many emails from people interested, so no question some people were impressed with the beauty of the cameras and wanted to know more. Guillermo I would think that he would want to know that whomever is putting together his site is doing so in a way that potential customers will be driven away. Site designers too often indulge in grandiose designs meant to be cool that are actually unusable. There is nothing more important than usability. Before the final design is complete, it would be best for the site designer to know of the negative feedback from potential customers. If the site remains as is and goes live, he will lose many sales from people who have no idea how to use this confusing site. Just my opinion. Cheers - george = Handmade Photographic Images - http://GLSmyth.com DRiP Investing - http://DRiPInvesting.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ = Handmade Photographic Images - http://GLSmyth.com DRiP Investing - http://DRiPInvesting.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: [pinhole-discussion] New Camera from Joaquin Casado and prompt box
George, Given your concern for usability, I know you will want to know about the problem I'm experiencing on your site at http://www.pinholeday.org/gallery/. In attempting to view the April 28, 2002 images, I receive the following message: Fatal error: Cannot redeclare maketextimage() in /usr/www/users/pinhole/WPD/includes/setup.php on line 322 (Windows 2000, IE 5, NS 4.7 and Opera 6.01). Haven't yet tried NS6. Clues? The 2001 images are wonderful although it's a lot to click through. Margaret Graham George L Smyth wrote: --- Guillermo pen...@rogers.com wrote: - Original Message - From: George L Smyth glsm...@yahoo.com Hmmm, okay. Very poor website design. I would like to see more pictures, get more details, maybe even find out how much it costs. I have no desire to send him an email. Anyway, I do my email through Yahoo, so this doesn't do me a whole lot of good. Too bad that something that should be so simple becomes impossible. I wonder if the camera is similarly designed. Common George, give Joaquin a break. The 1000's words the pictures in his site say speak very loud of his design and craftmanship. I said in my post that this was a PRE-ANNOUCEMENT. Joaquin sent me and a couple of other persons an email for us to PRE-VIEW his new creation, the site IS NOT meant as THE site from which he'll sell this camera, nor it is intended to ANNOUNCE the camera to the world, it says in the home page that there will be a web site coming soon. I'll stop short of saying I made a mistake with my posting of Joaquin pre-announcement to the list, Joaquin indicated to me, he was surpriced to find this morning so many emails from people interested, so no question some people were impressed with the beauty of the cameras and wanted to know more. Guillermo I would think that he would want to know that whomever is putting together his site is doing so in a way that potential customers will be driven away. Site designers too often indulge in grandiose designs meant to be cool that are actually unusable. There is nothing more important than usability. Before the final design is complete, it would be best for the site designer to know of the negative feedback from potential customers. If the site remains as is and goes live, he will lose many sales from people who have no idea how to use this confusing site. Just my opinion. Cheers - george = Handmade Photographic Images - http://GLSmyth.com DRiP Investing - http://DRiPInvesting.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
