Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box

2002-05-25 Thread George L Smyth
--- Chris Harris cpharrisph...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I'll be teaching a pinhole class, constructing cameras from Quaker oatmeal 
 canisters. I'd like to avoid using knives to cut the opening for the 
 pinhole.
 
 I've seen suggestions for using a Dremel drill, which I don't own. A trip to 
 my local hardware store wasn't helpful; the tool guy said a Dremel wouldn't 
 cut a clean hole in cardboard and pointed out the cost of the drill.

You don't really need a clean hole.  I'm assuming that you will be making a
pinhole from pie pan aluminum (or something like that), then affixing it to the
inside of the cannister over the larger hole.  That being the case, I would
think that just about anything would work - perhaps use a pencil to make the
hole, then use sandpaper to smooth the burrs.

Cheers -

george

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box

2002-05-25 Thread R Duarte
If you're worried about safety, I'd just cut the holes before the students
get there.  A Dremel might work, maybe a drill with a forstener bit in it,
but I'd be more worried about safety with all these powertools - especially
since you're drilling something cylindrical.

Rob learned my lesson about drilling wobbly things without clamping them
securely the hard way last month when i drilled through my finger, bone and
fingernail Duarte

 From: Bill Erickson erick...@hickorytech.net
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 Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 06:53:55 -0500
 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box
 
 Any power tool will shred the cardboard. I'd use either an xacto knife or a
 single edger razor blade.
 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Harris cpharrisph...@hotmail.com
 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 7:58 PM
 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box
 
 
 I'll be teaching a pinhole class, constructing cameras from Quaker oatmeal
 canisters. I'd like to avoid using knives to cut the opening for the
 pinhole.
 
 I've seen suggestions for using a Dremel drill, which I don't own. A trip
 to
 my local hardware store wasn't helpful; the tool guy said a Dremel
 wouldn't
 cut a clean hole in cardboard and pointed out the cost of the drill.
 
 Is a Dremel the best alternative to a knife? If so, what Dremel bit should
 I
 buy for this job?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chris
 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box

2002-05-24 Thread Bill Leigh
I have a Dremel tool that I got from my father. I've
been looking into using it for drilling a clean hole.
I just purchased a set of drill bits (sizes 61-80) for
a Dremel tools. When I went to use it, I found that
the chuck (or collett or whatever) did not go small
emough to hold the small drills, so I am looking at
buying a new chuck that can take the drills. The
smallest bit goes down to 0.013

I got an email this morning from a supplier, and I
think I might have found what I need. All of this can
be found at http://www.widgetsupply.com

Once I get the thing working correctly, I'll drop a
note about this. Fortunately, the pieces are pretty
cheap. The shipping is a major part of the cost.


Bill Leigh





--- Chris Harris cpharrisph...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I'll be teaching a pinhole class, constructing
 cameras from Quaker oatmeal 
 canisters. I'd like to avoid using knives to cut the
 opening for the 
 pinhole.
 
 I've seen suggestions for using a Dremel drill,
 which I don't own. A trip to 
 my local hardware store wasn't helpful; the tool guy
 said a Dremel wouldn't 
 cut a clean hole in cardboard and pointed out the
 cost of the drill.
 
 Is a Dremel the best alternative to a knife? If so,
 what Dremel bit should I 
 buy for this job?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chris
 

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box

2002-05-24 Thread Bill Erickson
Any power tool will shred the cardboard. I'd use either an xacto knife or a
single edger razor blade.
- Original Message -
From: Chris Harris cpharrisph...@hotmail.com
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 7:58 PM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box


 I'll be teaching a pinhole class, constructing cameras from Quaker oatmeal
 canisters. I'd like to avoid using knives to cut the opening for the
 pinhole.

 I've seen suggestions for using a Dremel drill, which I don't own. A trip
to
 my local hardware store wasn't helpful; the tool guy said a Dremel
wouldn't
 cut a clean hole in cardboard and pointed out the cost of the drill.

 Is a Dremel the best alternative to a knife? If so, what Dremel bit should
I
 buy for this job?

 Thanks,

 Chris

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box

2002-05-24 Thread Gordon J. Holtslander
 At 05:58 PM 5/23/2002 -0700, you wrote:
 I'll be teaching a pinhole class, constructing cameras from Quaker oatmeal
 canisters. I'd like to avoid using knives to cut the opening for the pinhole.
 How about a punch?  If you were to insert a piece of soft wood (like a 2x4
 clamped to the edge of  a table) into the oatmeal box for a mandrel, you
 could smack a short piece of brass tubing (or anything else you could find
 lying around) with a hammer and punch out a pretty good circular
 hole--especially if you filed the edges of the tube to make it slightly
 sharp (but not skin-cutting sharp).

The above is much like a cork-borer.  This is a tube with one end
sharpened to bore a hole in a cork.  You may be able to get one at a very
good hardware store or from a scientific supply house - maybe even a
wine-making store.

We have a couple of sets of them for making different sized holes in
corks and stoppers.

They should cut through cardboard

Gord




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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box

2002-05-23 Thread Chad Eby

At 05:58 PM 5/23/2002 -0700, you wrote:
I'll be teaching a pinhole class, constructing cameras from Quaker oatmeal 
canisters. I'd like to avoid using knives to cut the opening for the pinhole.
How about a punch?  If you were to insert a piece of soft wood (like a 2x4 
clamped to the edge of  a table) into the oatmeal box for a mandrel, you 
could smack a short piece of brass tubing (or anything else you could find 
lying around) with a hammer and punch out a pretty good circular 
hole--especially if you filed the edges of the tube to make it slightly 
sharp (but not skin-cutting sharp).


Another possibility would be to use a circle template, a mandrel like 
above, and a ball-point pen.  Use the template to draw a circle on the 
cannister in the desired spot, and then keep going around and around using 
the template as a guide, bearing down hard with the pen...soon enough 
you'll come through the other side.  A little time consuming, but pretty 
safe--I'm not sure you couldn't do as much damage with a Dremel as with a 
knife!


Cheers,
Chad




[pinhole-discussion] Cutting oatmeal box

2002-05-23 Thread Chris Harris
I'll be teaching a pinhole class, constructing cameras from Quaker oatmeal 
canisters. I'd like to avoid using knives to cut the opening for the 
pinhole.


I've seen suggestions for using a Dremel drill, which I don't own. A trip to 
my local hardware store wasn't helpful; the tool guy said a Dremel wouldn't 
cut a clean hole in cardboard and pointed out the cost of the drill.


Is a Dremel the best alternative to a knife? If so, what Dremel bit should I 
buy for this job?


Thanks,

Chris

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