RE: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Negatives

2002-11-19 Thread George L Smyth
--- António_Vieira antonio.vie...@siemens.com wrote:
 
 
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  From: dalf...@aol.com [mailto:dalf...@aol.com]
  Sent: Sábado, 16 de Novembro de 2002 20:41
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  Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Negatives
  
  
  In a message dated 11/16/2002 10:35:06 AM Central Standard Time, 
  jruss...@wishtv.com writes:
  
   've been shooting with a Polaroid 545 back for a couple 
  months now.  I've
been tossing my negatives in the trash after development.  
  I was wondering
if there was a way to fix the negatives so that I can keep 
  them for future
use.  I remember seeing something about this, but I can't 
  remember where I
saw it or how I go about doing it.  Whatever the process 
  is, is it the same
for both BW and color negatives?

   If you are using Polaroid Type 55 film(BW) , you can do a 
  couple of things, 
  if you overexpose by one stop , you will get a lighter  
  print, but get a 
  bit more dense negative . If you are  in the field , you can 
  put the neg into 
  a zip lock baggie filled with water, and clear the negative 
   with Hypo 
  Clear once you get home . 
 
 
 
 I was thinking in trying type 55, but I was going to the sodium sulfite. What
 exactly is the Hypo Clear??

Hypo Clear is a solution that removes the sodium (or ammonium) thiosulfate from
the substrate following fixing.  I clear my negatives with PermaWash, which is
a commercial solution used to wash prints.

Of course, none of this has anything to do with the original question, which
had to fixing the negative.  As previously stated, I do not believe that fixing
Type 55 film is necessary - I have numerous old negatives that have simply been
cleared and dried.

Cheers -

george

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Negatives

2002-11-19 Thread DAlfrey
In a message dated 11/18/2002 3:57:21 PM Central Standard Time, 
antonio.vie...@siemens.com writes:

 I was thinking in trying type 55, but I was going to the sodium sulfite. 
What 
 exactly is the Hypo Clear??
  
  Thanks
  
  António Vieira


Antonio,  Hypo Clear, or HCA (Hypo Clearing Agent ) is a product made by a 
couple of companies that I am aware of, there may be more, if anyone else 
knows of the companies , please feel free to chime in here . Kodak makes one, 
and another brand is called Orbit . Hypo Clear is a product to be used after 
the fixing step and a water rinse has been completed , it shortens the 
washing times needed for films. I use it for sheet films as well as roll 
films. My practice using Hypo Clear , is to use it with my Polaroid Type 55 
positive/negative films, I put the negative in a 4X5 film hanger, and dunk 
the film for as long as it takes to get the  developer gunk  off the film, 
usually about 2-3 minutes at the most, I then wash the negative as I normally 
would any negative , and hang to dry. 

Am not sure where you are located Antonio, but if its the United States, you 
can get Hypo Clear at most any camera store, or order it online from 
www.bhphoto.com .

I just looked at the Orbit bath instructions, and they say, to use 4 ounces 
of concentrate to a gallon of water , agitate for 30 seconds , and wash for 5 
minutes . 
A one gallon working solution can do 80/8X10 (double weight) prints , or 150 
sheets of 8X10 film . So you can see it is quite economical . Orbit is made 
by a company called TKO Chemical Co, in St. Joseph , Missouri , USA. price is 
about $10.95 USD per pint .If you order Hypo Clear from www.bhphoto.com, I 
would suggest getting a couple bottles or more,  at time of ordering . 

 I know the instructions on Polaroid Type 55 call for clearing with Sodium 
Sulfite, and I too wondered about using it when I posted my question similar 
to yours. Since I did not use Sodium Sulfite, I can not speak to the results 
. It seems to me someone remarked that using the Sodium Sulfite produced a 
higher grain , than just using a Hypo Clear. Some one correct me if I am 
wrong here . I started with the Hypo Clear ,and have the results I like, so 
have just continued with it . 
Kodak Sodium Sulfite sells for about $9.00 USD in granular form  I know, but 
thats the extent of my knowledge using it for Type 55.



RE: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Negatives

2002-11-18 Thread andy schmitt
Antonio
Hypo Clearing Agent is the Kodak brand of Permawash... Its what you use to
remove fixer  shorten wash times.
andy



...  If you are using Polaroid Type 55 film(BW) , you can do a
 couple of things,
 if you overexpose by one stop , you will get a lighter 
 print, but get a
 bit more dense negative . If you are  in the field , you can
 put the neg into
 a zip lock baggie filled with water, and clear the negative
  with Hypo
 Clear once you get home .



I was thinking in trying type 55, but I was going to the sodium sulfite.
What exactly is the Hypo Clear??

Thanks

António Vieira
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RE: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Negatives

2002-11-18 Thread António Vieira

 -Original Message-
 From: dalf...@aol.com [mailto:dalf...@aol.com]
 Sent: Sábado, 16 de Novembro de 2002 20:41
 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Negatives
 
 
 In a message dated 11/16/2002 10:35:06 AM Central Standard Time, 
 jruss...@wishtv.com writes:
 
  've been shooting with a Polaroid 545 back for a couple 
 months now.  I've
   been tossing my negatives in the trash after development.  
 I was wondering
   if there was a way to fix the negatives so that I can keep 
 them for future
   use.  I remember seeing something about this, but I can't 
 remember where I
   saw it or how I go about doing it.  Whatever the process 
 is, is it the same
   for both BW and color negatives?
   
  If you are using Polaroid Type 55 film(BW) , you can do a 
 couple of things, 
 if you overexpose by one stop , you will get a lighter  
 print, but get a 
 bit more dense negative . If you are  in the field , you can 
 put the neg into 
 a zip lock baggie filled with water, and clear the negative 
  with Hypo 
 Clear once you get home . 



I was thinking in trying type 55, but I was going to the sodium sulfite. What 
exactly is the Hypo Clear??

Thanks

António Vieira
http://www.livinginabox.net




Polaroid instructions say you use 
 Sodium Sulfite, 
 but I once posted the same question on this list and couple 
 others , and the 
 consensus was to use Hypo Clear , wash, and hang to dry . If 
 you are just 
 looking to expose Type 55 to get a good print, that is usable 
 for scanning 
 and Photoshop , then stick to the EI 50 indicated by 
 Polaroid, if you want a 
 denser neg for printing , then use an EI of 25 .
 I use Type 55 a lot with my Santa Barbara Lensless 4X5 wide 
 angle (2-1/2 inch 
 fl ) and use exposures of about the 3-4 second range as a 
 starting point , 
 fine tuning if need be from there . 
 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Negatives

2002-11-16 Thread George L Smyth
--- Jason Russell jruss...@wishtv.com wrote:
 I've been shooting with a Polaroid 545 back for a couple months now.  I've
 been tossing my negatives in the trash after development.  I was wondering
 if there was a way to fix the negatives so that I can keep them for future
 use.  I remember seeing something about this, but I can't remember where I
 saw it or how I go about doing it.  Whatever the process is, is it the same
 for both BW and color negatives?

I've always just cleared and washed them.  I've got some several years old that
are just fine.

Cheers -

george

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Negatives

2002-11-16 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 11/16/02 11:36:40 AM, aschm...@warwick.net writes:

 I've also found that if you shot the 3000 film  are careful about the

negative side it is possible to scan these. I'm still playing with this..

have fun

andy 

Please keep us informed. This sound interesting.
leezy



[pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Negatives

2002-11-15 Thread Jason Russell
I've been shooting with a Polaroid 545 back for a couple months now.  I've
been tossing my negatives in the trash after development.  I was wondering
if there was a way to fix the negatives so that I can keep them for future
use.  I remember seeing something about this, but I can't remember where I
saw it or how I go about doing it.  Whatever the process is, is it the same
for both BW and color negatives?

Thanks inadvance.

Jason Russell
WISH-TV
Indianapolis, IN

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