RE: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Pack Film Mechanics?

2002-10-04 Thread Andy Schmitt
I believe the 553 fits a 550 back. They show up on ebay frequently  are
WONDERFUL. I like them much more than the single sheet backs  the film is
about 1/2 the price of single sheets. I picked up a couple of them so I can
load several type of film...still cheaper than single sheet...
You might find one used at a photo shop. There was a rumor last winter about
the demise of the 550  style of film but my Polaroid rep has assured me it
is false... for what thats worth...
enjoy
andy

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--- michael_georg...@trendmicro.com wrote:
..snip..

 So, here I am with many, many boxes of Polaroid 553,
 Polapan ASA100 4x5 pack
 film, and no way to use it (yet).  I can build a
 camera out of any damn
 thing, but a homemade Polaroid back presents a bit
 more of a challenge.
..snip..

I'm not clear on what you've got:
* 4x5 polaroid single sheet film (where each film is
in a separate light tight paper sleeve)-- I think you
could fake a back with this type: you dummy up a back
where you slide the sheet in, the catch catches on
something inside so you can (partly) pull the paper
sleeve out, take your exposure, slide the paper sleeve
back in, release the catch, pull the whole thing out,
and use a rolling pin from the fat end to spread out
the chemicals.  I got a back to do this for $40 at the
last camera show I went to.

* 4x5 pack film -- I didn't know they made pack film
in this size, but they apparently do!  This looks like
it would be harder to fabricate -- the pack itself
does most of the work (keeping negative  positive
separate, bringing them together as you pull the tabs
out though the rollers) -- but the rollers need to be
hard, clean, and pretty precise (right size, right
spacing, right tension) to work well, and the places
where the tabs pop out would take some thought to
dummy up.  Some of the cheapie polaroids used
spreader bars rather than rollers, and this might be
easier to fabricate -- basically it's two smooth slabs
of metal held almost, but not quite, together with a
heavy spring.  The film is pulled through the bars and
they pop the chemical pod and spread it out...

-- Philip


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Pack Film Mechanics?

2002-10-03 Thread Philip willarney
--- michael_georg...@trendmicro.com wrote:
..snip..
 
 So, here I am with many, many boxes of Polaroid 553,
 Polapan ASA100 4x5 pack
 film, and no way to use it (yet).  I can build a
 camera out of any damn
 thing, but a homemade Polaroid back presents a bit
 more of a challenge. 
..snip..

I'm not clear on what you've got:
* 4x5 polaroid single sheet film (where each film is
in a separate light tight paper sleeve)-- I think you
could fake a back with this type: you dummy up a back
where you slide the sheet in, the catch catches on
something inside so you can (partly) pull the paper
sleeve out, take your exposure, slide the paper sleeve
back in, release the catch, pull the whole thing out,
and use a rolling pin from the fat end to spread out
the chemicals.  I got a back to do this for $40 at the
last camera show I went to.

* 4x5 pack film -- I didn't know they made pack film
in this size, but they apparently do!  This looks like
it would be harder to fabricate -- the pack itself
does most of the work (keeping negative  positive
separate, bringing them together as you pull the tabs
out though the rollers) -- but the rollers need to be
hard, clean, and pretty precise (right size, right
spacing, right tension) to work well, and the places
where the tabs pop out would take some thought to
dummy up.  Some of the cheapie polaroids used
spreader bars rather than rollers, and this might be
easier to fabricate -- basically it's two smooth slabs
of metal held almost, but not quite, together with a
heavy spring.  The film is pulled through the bars and
they pop the chemical pod and spread it out...

-- Philip


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Pack Film Mechanics?

2002-10-03 Thread Guillermo
- Original Message -
From: Gordon J. Holtslander hol...@duke.usask.ca

 Polaroid makes a pinhole camera kit - I wonder if your film would work
 with it?

Gordon: If I am not mistaken, the Pol-Pin takes 3.25x4.25 packs same as the
ones the holder 405 uses.  The famous pos-neg 665 is one example of those
kinds of films.

BTW, Michael, what about renting a Pol 550 back for a day and shooting away
as if there is no tomorrow, until all boxes are gone!!

Guillermo




Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Pack Film Mechanics?

2002-10-03 Thread Guillermo
Michael,
 This site may help you understand how a Polaroid pack works:

http://www.theskeltons.org/polaroids/film.htm

Guillermo


- Original Message -
From: michael_georg...@trendmicro.com

 Anyone have any experience with the mechanics of Polaroid pack film?

= So, here I am with many, many boxes of Polaroid 553, Polapan ASA100 4x5
pack
 film, and no way to use it (yet).  I can build a camera out of any damn
 thing, but a homemade Polaroid back presents a bit more of a challenge.




Re: [pinhole-discussion] Polaroid Pack Film Mechanics?

2002-10-02 Thread Gordon J. Holtslander
Polaroid makes a pinhole camera kit - I wonder if your film would work
with it?

See:

http://www.polaroid.com/products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=381243FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=352851bmLocale=en_USPRDREG=POLSOURCE=catalog

and the guide to using it:

http://www.polaroid.com/service/userguides/photographic/pinhole_ug.pdf

On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 michael_georg...@trendmicro.com wrote:

Lots of people have found old polaroid cameras and converted them to
pinhole - chop the lens off and add a pinhole :)

Gord

 pinhole-discussion@p at ???

 Anyone have any experience with the mechanics of Polaroid pack film?

 I came across many, many boxes of slightly outdated Polaroid 553 film at a
 photoswap, and I bought it, thinking it was some other size, as I was not
 paying close attention... But, I get home and discover my error: I have no
 camera to use with this film.

 So, here I am with many, many boxes of Polaroid 553, Polapan ASA100 4x5 pack
 film, and no way to use it (yet).  I can build a camera out of any damn
 thing, but a homemade Polaroid back presents a bit more of a challenge.

 I found a packfilms_guide.pdf on the Polaroid site, and this guide says,
 ... After an exposure is made, pulling the white tab all the way out moves
 the exposed negative from the focal plane behind the lens to a position
 facing the positive sheet.  Simultaneously, the larger tab of the film is
 positioned between the rollers, and sticks out of the camera or film holder
 where it can be grasped

 I can figure out a back to contain the pack, and I suppose I can accomodate
 the black and white tab slots, and I suppose I can figure out a way to make
 rollers, but I'm a surprised that the negative actually moves to make
 contact with the positive before being extracted through the rollers to
 break the pod, etc...  I've stared deeply into an old Polaroid 250 to figure
 out how it works, but I'm wondering if there is more to it than meets the
 eye... especially with the negative moving into place.

 Anyone ever done a hack to use pack film?  Any advice?  The film was cheap,
 and I don't want to invest in a $50 or $100 back, I just want to figure out
 how to use the film!

 Thanks,

 Michael Georgoff
 San Jose, CA

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