Re: [pinhole-discussion] re: paper negative
- Original Message - From: James you might take a took at this url, the history and how to of paper negatives, including info on william mortenson's special techniques: http://www.photography.about.com/library/weekly/aa051302a.htm James Luckett James, Many thanks for this very interesting reference. Somehow, my Google search on the topic of Paper negatives did not pick it up. For those who want to get a copy of Mortensen's book The paper negative, be prepared to pay anywhere between $500 to close to $700 if you find one. It is a very rare out-of-print book. Don't even think of turning to eBay for a copy! I've tried to get one for a long time and there ain't any...! As regards the practice of wetting the paper (positive and negative) and squeegee the two sheets together, the essence is to be brisk, in order not to let the chemistry on top of the positive to become active and interfere with the exposure and the processing. This has been our greatest difficulty with printing the giant pinhole negative created on April 28. What we will be doing is to pre-wash the positive for 10-15 minutes (in the dark, since the darkroom light will fog the paper if it remains under that light for so long) and to proceed with squeegeeing this pre-washed positive with the negative as per the usual procedure. We also will need to be extremely careful to not let any pounds of water on top of the print or in between the positive and the negative, to avoid maks on the final print. All this is quite easy when you work with 11x14 or 16x20 format. It get's a real challenge when you deal with three strips of paper positive and negative that are 50'' x 8 feet... To my knowledge, nobody has been doing that before. We'll find out this weekend if this can be done successfully...! Best, Guy
Re: [pinhole-discussion] re: paper negative
That was my experience, no logo on the final print. When replying to such a long long thread, please delete the 3262354 irrelevant messages, yahoo sigs, and the tags that the list puts from your post. Just leave the one that you are specifically replying to. I have scrolled through many of the messages of this thread, and have not been able to figure out what has been added, as it is hidden among all the previous replies. John - Original Message - From: George L Smyth glsm...@yahoo.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 9:10 AM Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] re: paper negative Has anyone ever confirmed that the logo on the back affects the image? As previously stated, when I tried a Kodak paper (it was probably Polycontrast III) I saw no logo when I contact-printed the negative. Cheers - george
RE: [pinhole-discussion] re: paper negative
The logo on Kodak paper makes it unsuitable for using as a negative, in my experience, which is to bad because the paper is nice and I would love to suppport an American company. Mitch From: George L Smyth glsm...@yahoo.com Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] re: paper negative Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 09:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Has anyone ever confirmed that the logo on the back affects the image? As previously stated, when I tried a Kodak paper (it was probably Polycontrast III) I saw no logo when I contact-printed the negative. Cheers - george --- D Hill zopp...@yahoo.com wrote: Another note on papers. I used to use Ilford, but I got cranky at the price one day so I picked up a box of Mitsubishi Gekko Matte, tried it and liked it - and It's also great for proofs. It is a wonderful matte surface VC RC paper, and is quite inexpensive at about $33 for 100 - 8x10. It does not have the logo imprinted on the back. You can get the stuff through Freestyle if you want to try it. However, if all of us run out to freestyle to purchase the great inexpensive paper - they just might play the kodak game and charge up the price. Ah, the joys of photography. Don Andy Schmitt aschm...@warwick.net wrote: confirmed...Ilford is logo free... andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of James Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 7:40 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] re: paper negative on paper negatives: seagull oriental brand papers (confirmed with my own eyes) and forte brand (as told by company representative) do not have logos. i've heard that ilford is also logo free. ISO is between 6 and 2. i've been using film developer for about 5-10 minutes, and this reduces the contrast somewhat. you might take a took at this url, the history and how to of paper negatives, including info on william mortenson's special techniques: http://www.photography.about.com/library/weekly/aa051302a.htm -- James Luckett http://consumptive.org ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ - Do You Yahoo!? Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup = Handmade Photographic Images http://GLSmyth.com DRiP Investing http://DRiPInvesting.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
RE: [pinhole-discussion] re: paper negative
Has anyone ever confirmed that the logo on the back affects the image? As previously stated, when I tried a Kodak paper (it was probably Polycontrast III) I saw no logo when I contact-printed the negative. Cheers - george --- D Hill zopp...@yahoo.com wrote: Another note on papers. I used to use Ilford, but I got cranky at the price one day so I picked up a box of Mitsubishi Gekko Matte, tried it and liked it - and It's also great for proofs. It is a wonderful matte surface VC RC paper, and is quite inexpensive at about $33 for 100 - 8x10. It does not have the logo imprinted on the back. You can get the stuff through Freestyle if you want to try it. However, if all of us run out to freestyle to purchase the great inexpensive paper - they just might play the kodak game and charge up the price. Ah, the joys of photography. Don Andy Schmitt aschm...@warwick.net wrote: confirmed...Ilford is logo free... andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of James Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 7:40 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] re: paper negative on paper negatives: seagull oriental brand papers (confirmed with my own eyes) and forte brand (as told by company representative) do not have logos. i've heard that ilford is also logo free. ISO is between 6 and 2. i've been using film developer for about 5-10 minutes, and this reduces the contrast somewhat. you might take a took at this url, the history and how to of paper negatives, including info on william mortenson's special techniques: http://www.photography.about.com/library/weekly/aa051302a.htm -- James Luckett http://consumptive.org ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/ - Do You Yahoo!? Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup = Handmade Photographic Images http://GLSmyth.com DRiP Investing http://DRiPInvesting.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
RE: [pinhole-discussion] re: paper negative
confirmed...Ilford is logo free... andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of James Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 7:40 PM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: [pinhole-discussion] re: paper negative on paper negatives: seagull oriental brand papers (confirmed with my own eyes) and forte brand (as told by company representative) do not have logos. i've heard that ilford is also logo free. ISO is between 6 and 2. i've been using film developer for about 5-10 minutes, and this reduces the contrast somewhat. you might take a took at this url, the history and how to of paper negatives, including info on william mortenson's special techniques: http://www.photography.about.com/library/weekly/aa051302a.htm -- James Luckett http://consumptive.org ___ Post to the list as PLAIN TEXT only - no HTML Pinhole-Discussion mailing list Pinhole-Discussion@p at ??? unsubscribe or change your account at http://www.???/discussion/
