Re: [pinhole-discussion] Alexis' debate of how and why.

2002-01-16 Thread ragowaring
That's beautiful

Alexis



on 16/1/02 1:20 am, Bill Erickson at erick...@hickorytech.net wrote:

 I'm reminded that when I visited the Sistine Chapel the man in front of me
 in line was blind, white cane and all. He seemed to be as moved as the rest
 of us.
 - Original Message -
 From: Murray mur...@uptowngallery.org
 To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 2:21 PM
 Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Alexis' debate of how and why.
 
 
 Hello:
 
 I'm deeply rooted in the 'how' first, before the 'why'. It's my nature to
 try and understand processes before I experiment with them, so thus far,
 I'm
 mostly an 'armchair' pinholer (I spend alot of time planning great things
 rahter than doing them).
 
 I think there is some validity in this approach even in a more balanced
 case...
 
 I draw parallels among different artforms -
 
 To produce poetry of any depth, one has to learn the language
 vocabulary, grammar, style,
 etc, and study previous works.
 
 To produce music, one must learn and practice a great deal of mechanical
 and
 theoretical matters before creating art. Someone once said of jazz, you
 have to learn the rules before you can break them. Heretoo, one has to
 learn the language to 'speak
 
 Painting requires a mastery of technique to allwo the process or craft to
 deliver a feeling, rather than be an obstacle to expression
 
 Some people have told me this is pinhole...just do it. I'm heading
 there...I just don't do well with a purely Edisonian approach (by gosh or
 by
 golly results). I then don't know why something worked or didn't work.
 
 Getting to the 'why' part, I'm practicing with an SLR right now, taking
 shots of things I want to do in pinhole...I feel like maybe if I can learn
 to 'see' composition conventionally, it will give me better pinhole
 results,
 since composing them  is a 'blinder' approach.
 
 Speaking of blind photographers, which has been discussed here earlier,
 someone told me they met an artist recently who sold a painting to Stevie
 Wonder...I paused for a moment, trying to imagine what or how he would
 select, and she said that someone with him guided him and he selected one
 by
 touching it. That was interesting, but that leaves us photographers out of
 the loop.
 
 Murray
 
 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Alexis' debate of how and why.

2002-01-15 Thread Kosinski Family
From: Bill Erickson erick...@hickorytech.net
 I'm reminded that when I visited the Sistine Chapel the man in front of me
 in line was blind, white cane and all. He seemed to be as moved as the
rest
 of us.

you don't need eyes to comprehend the moment, just a working Heart!
jim




Re: [pinhole-discussion] Alexis' debate of how and why.

2002-01-15 Thread Bill Erickson
I'm reminded that when I visited the Sistine Chapel the man in front of me
in line was blind, white cane and all. He seemed to be as moved as the rest
of us.
- Original Message -
From: Murray mur...@uptowngallery.org
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 2:21 PM
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Alexis' debate of how and why.


 Hello:

 I'm deeply rooted in the 'how' first, before the 'why'. It's my nature to
 try and understand processes before I experiment with them, so thus far,
I'm
 mostly an 'armchair' pinholer (I spend alot of time planning great things
 rahter than doing them).

 I think there is some validity in this approach even in a more balanced
 case...

 I draw parallels among different artforms -

 To produce poetry of any depth, one has to learn the language
 vocabulary, grammar, style,
 etc, and study previous works.

 To produce music, one must learn and practice a great deal of mechanical
and
 theoretical matters before creating art. Someone once said of jazz, you
 have to learn the rules before you can break them. Heretoo, one has to
 learn the language to 'speak

 Painting requires a mastery of technique to allwo the process or craft to
 deliver a feeling, rather than be an obstacle to expression

 Some people have told me this is pinhole...just do it. I'm heading
 there...I just don't do well with a purely Edisonian approach (by gosh or
by
 golly results). I then don't know why something worked or didn't work.

 Getting to the 'why' part, I'm practicing with an SLR right now, taking
 shots of things I want to do in pinhole...I feel like maybe if I can learn
 to 'see' composition conventionally, it will give me better pinhole
results,
 since composing them  is a 'blinder' approach.

 Speaking of blind photographers, which has been discussed here earlier,
 someone told me they met an artist recently who sold a painting to Stevie
 Wonder...I paused for a moment, trying to imagine what or how he would
 select, and she said that someone with him guided him and he selected one
by
 touching it. That was interesting, but that leaves us photographers out of
 the loop.

 Murray


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