Re: [PLUG] Is it dead, Jim?

2023-02-09 Thread Ben Koenig
--- Original Message ---
On Thursday, February 9th, 2023 at 11:50 AM, Russell Senior 
 wrote:


> > > > > > "Paul" == Paul Heinlein heinl...@madboa.com writes:
>
>
> Paul> On Thu, 9 Feb 2023, Paul Heinlein wrote:
>
> > > Has the PLUG mailing list died?
>
>
> Paul> Interesting. Mail sent to plug@lists.pdxlinux.org goes to the
>
> Paul> spiretech.net SMTP server [69.168.62.104] and reaches me. But the
>
> Paul> message that arrives sets the return address to p...@pdxlinux.org
>
> Paul> (no "lists." in the domain part of the address). Mail sent to that
>
> Paul> address goes to the tidalhosting.net SMTP server [155.130.138.8]
>
> Paul> and disappears into some as-yet unspooled queue.
>
>
> Thanks for that observation. Mail from Michael at pdxlinux.org also goes
> through spiretech and arrives for me. When I did a dig mx
> lists.pdxlinux.org I didn't see an MX record, just an SOA pointing at 
> ns1.tidalhosting.net
>
>
> --
> Russell Senior
> russ...@personaltelco.net
>
>

Looks like you clicked "reply all" which sent the email to both domains, 
resulting in a double post. Also I'm not convinced mail is being delivered on 
schedule..

For the record, which domain are we supposed to be using? I see no mention of 
lists.pdxlinux.org on the website
https://pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug






Re: [PLUG] Is it dead, Jim?

2023-02-09 Thread wes
On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 3:51 PM Ben Koenig  wrote:

>
> Looks like you clicked "reply all" which sent the email to both domains,
> resulting in a double post. Also I'm not convinced mail is being delivered
> on schedule..


I think this is happening even when only sending to p...@pdxlinux.org - I
think tidal's system is delivering emails twice? for some reason?


>
> For the record, which domain are we supposed to be using? I see no mention
> of lists.pdxlinux.org on the website
> https://pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
>
>
lists.pdxlinux.org is still on spiretech, which is due to be decommissioned
"real soon now"

-wes




Re: [PLUG] Is it dead, Jim?

2023-02-09 Thread Russell Senior
> "Paul" == Paul Heinlein  writes:

Paul> On Thu, 9 Feb 2023, Paul Heinlein wrote:
>> Has the PLUG mailing list died?

Paul> Interesting. Mail sent to plug@lists.pdxlinux.org goes to the
Paul> spiretech.net SMTP server [69.168.62.104] and reaches me. But the
Paul> message that arrives sets the return address to p...@pdxlinux.org
Paul> (no "lists." in the domain part of the address). Mail sent to that
Paul> address goes to the tidalhosting.net SMTP server [155.130.138.8]
Paul> and disappears into some as-yet unspooled queue.

Thanks for that observation. Mail from Michael at pdxlinux.org also goes
through spiretech and arrives for me. When I did a dig mx
lists.pdxlinux.org I didn't see an MX record, just an SOA pointing at 
ns1.tidalhosting.net


--
Russell Senior
russ...@personaltelco.net






Re: [PLUG] Is it dead, Jim?

2023-02-09 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Thu, 9 Feb 2023, Paul Heinlein wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Feb 2023, Paul Heinlein wrote:
>
>> Has the PLUG mailing list died?
>
> Evidently not! Huzzah.

The SMTP path of this message is interesting. I'm using the timestamps
provided by each server, so you'll need to take timezones into account
when calculating elapsed times. All transactions were on Feb 9
(today), so I'm omitting the date and year sections from timestamps.

* Sent from my workstation to my SMTP server at 15:18:42 GMT

* My SMTP server tried sending it to mx2.tidalhosting.net at 15:18:48
GMT but the message was greylisted (which is perfectly legitimate).

* Finally sent from my SMTP server to mx2.tidalhosting.net at 10:39:02
-0500.

* Sent from mx2.tidalhosting.net to mx1.tidalhosting.net at 10:39:20 -0500.

* Sent from mx1.tidalhosting.net to mrtr.tidalhosting.net at 12:50:03
-0500.

* Sent from mrtr.tidalhosting.net to gw2.tidalhosting.net at 12:50:30
-0500.

* Sent from gw2.tidalhosting.net back to my SMTP server at 17:50:43
GMT.

The greylisting delay I understand, but the two-hour delay between
mx1.tidalhosting.net and mrtr.tidalhosting.net confuses me.

--
Paul Heinlein
heinl...@madboa.com
45°22'48" N, 122°35'36" W


Re: [PLUG] Is it dead, Jim?

2023-02-09 Thread Robert Citek
Courtois! - Robert

On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 9:51 AM Paul Heinlein  wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Feb 2023, Paul Heinlein wrote:
>
> > Has the PLUG mailing list died?
>
> Evidently not! Huzzah.
>
> --
> Paul Heinlein
> heinl...@madboa.com
> 45?22'48" N, 122?35'36" W
>




Re: [PLUG] Is it dead, Jim?

2023-02-09 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Thu, 9 Feb 2023, Paul Heinlein wrote:

> Has the PLUG mailing list died?

Evidently not! Huzzah.

--
Paul Heinlein
heinl...@madboa.com
45?22'48" N, 122?35'36" W


Re: [PLUG] Is it dead, Jim?

2023-02-09 Thread Robert Citek
It’s alive, Jim, but not as we knew it. - Robert

On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 8:22 AM Paul Heinlein  wrote:

> Has the PLUG mailing list died?
>
> --
> Paul Heinlein
> heinl...@madboa.com
> 45°22'48" N, 122°35'36" W
>