Re: [PLUG] Logging network use while using Zoom

2021-05-13 Thread Dick Steffens

On 5/13/21 1:32 PM, Russell Senior wrote:


In the context of paying for bandwidth during a Zoom call, unless you
have a way of turning off those other uses, you are going to end up
shuttling those bytes over your data plan and needing to pay for them
anyway, so it seems to me worth counting them.


Once this system is set up, these Zoom meetings will be the only traffic 
on it. The hotspot won't be open to anyone else.


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Re: [PLUG] Logging network use while using Zoom

2021-05-13 Thread Dick Steffens

On 5/13/21 12:23 PM, Paul Heinlein wrote:

I know that Russell is aware of this, but it's worth noting that 
aggregate numbers won't necessarily be limited to your Zoom session. 
Your package manager may be configured to look for updates every once 
in a while; a cron job may kick off a network session; any local 
network filesystem activity can bump the aggregate.


Perhaps none of those scenarios applies to your system during the Zoom 
call, but beware that they will impact your numbers.


If the package manger goes out and looks for stuff, that won't be a 
large amount of data, and I don't have anything set to automatically 
download updates. Also, there are no cron jobs that I've set up, nor 
local network activity during the meeting.


Thanks for the clarification.


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Re: [PLUG] Logging network use while using Zoom

2021-05-13 Thread Dick Steffens

On 5/13/21 11:44 AM, Russell Senior wrote:

You do want to be looking at the whole picture though, not just
firefox. Those numbers are way too low to be your online meeting.

You might want to track total in/out bytes of the interface. Before
and after your meeting run ifconfig -a. For each interface, you should
see a line like:

   RX bytes:7251003175 (7.2 GB)  TX bytes:282820023 (282.8 MB)

Or, if you like iproute2 tools instead, ip -s link, where you will see
lines like this:

RX: bytes  packets  errors  dropped overrun mcast
 7255250852 7218804  0   0   0   0
 TX: bytes  packets  errors  dropped carrier collsns
 284958814  1699378  0   0   0   0

Subtracting the before numbers from the after numbers, you should get
the aggregate "during" numbers.



That makes a lot of sense. Thanks.


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Re: [PLUG] Logging network use while using Zoom

2021-05-13 Thread Russell Senior
On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 12:23 PM Paul Heinlein  wrote:
>
> On Thu, 13 May 2021, Russell Senior wrote:
>
> > You do want to be looking at the whole picture though, not just
> > firefox. Those numbers are way too low to be your online meeting.
> >
> > You might want to track total in/out bytes of the interface. Before
> > and after your meeting run ifconfig -a. For each interface, you should
> > see a line like:
> >
> >  RX bytes:7251003175 (7.2 GB)  TX bytes:282820023 (282.8 MB)
> >
> > Or, if you like iproute2 tools instead, ip -s link, where you will see
> > lines like this:
> >
> >   RX: bytes  packets  errors  dropped overrun mcast
> >7255250852 7218804  0   0   0   0
> >TX: bytes  packets  errors  dropped carrier collsns
> >284958814  1699378  0   0   0   0
> >
> > Subtracting the before numbers from the after numbers, you should get
> > the aggregate "during" numbers.
>
> I know that Russell is aware of this, but it's worth noting that
> aggregate numbers won't necessarily be limited to your Zoom session.
> Your package manager may be configured to look for updates every once
> in a while; a cron job may kick off a network session; any local
> network filesystem activity can bump the aggregate.
>
> Perhaps none of those scenarios applies to your system during the Zoom
> call, but beware that they will impact your numbers.

In the context of paying for bandwidth during a Zoom call, unless you
have a way of turning off those other uses, you are going to end up
shuttling those bytes over your data plan and needing to pay for them
anyway, so it seems to me worth counting them.
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Re: [PLUG] Logging network use while using Zoom

2021-05-13 Thread Paul Heinlein

On Thu, 13 May 2021, Russell Senior wrote:


You do want to be looking at the whole picture though, not just
firefox. Those numbers are way too low to be your online meeting.

You might want to track total in/out bytes of the interface. Before
and after your meeting run ifconfig -a. For each interface, you should
see a line like:

 RX bytes:7251003175 (7.2 GB)  TX bytes:282820023 (282.8 MB)

Or, if you like iproute2 tools instead, ip -s link, where you will see
lines like this:

  RX: bytes  packets  errors  dropped overrun mcast
   7255250852 7218804  0   0   0   0
   TX: bytes  packets  errors  dropped carrier collsns
   284958814  1699378  0   0   0   0

Subtracting the before numbers from the after numbers, you should get
the aggregate "during" numbers.


I know that Russell is aware of this, but it's worth noting that 
aggregate numbers won't necessarily be limited to your Zoom session. 
Your package manager may be configured to look for updates every once 
in a while; a cron job may kick off a network session; any local 
network filesystem activity can bump the aggregate.


Perhaps none of those scenarios applies to your system during the Zoom 
call, but beware that they will impact your numbers.


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Re: [PLUG] Logging network use while using Zoom

2021-05-13 Thread Russell Senior
You do want to be looking at the whole picture though, not just
firefox. Those numbers are way too low to be your online meeting.

You might want to track total in/out bytes of the interface. Before
and after your meeting run ifconfig -a. For each interface, you should
see a line like:

  RX bytes:7251003175 (7.2 GB)  TX bytes:282820023 (282.8 MB)

Or, if you like iproute2 tools instead, ip -s link, where you will see
lines like this:

   RX: bytes  packets  errors  dropped overrun mcast
7255250852 7218804  0   0   0   0
TX: bytes  packets  errors  dropped carrier collsns
284958814  1699378  0   0   0   0

Subtracting the before numbers from the after numbers, you should get
the aggregate "during" numbers.

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On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 9:24 AM Dick Steffens  wrote:
>
> On 5/12/21 10:58 PM, TomasK wrote:
> > Or you could just read the in/out 75MB/53.6MB numbers I put in brackets
> >   for you, double check the columns and call it a day.
>
> In the light of "another day" this makes sense.
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: [PLUG] Logging network use while using Zoom

2021-05-13 Thread Dick Steffens

On 5/12/21 10:58 PM, TomasK wrote:

Or you could just read the in/out 75MB/53.6MB numbers I put in brackets
  for you, double check the columns and call it a day.


In the light of "another day" this makes sense.

Thanks.

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