Re: [PLUG] Can't shut down

2022-02-03 Thread Jason Barnett
They pressing and holding the power button for 30 seconds. It should should
turn off.

- Sent from my pocket computing telecommunications device.  All typos and
poor communications will be blamed on the autocarrot function of said
device.

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022, 8:38 PM John Jason Jordan  wrote:

> I my travails with the new Dell laptop, while trying Mint I clicked on
> something and the panel disappeared. It was Mint Xfce so I tried
> xfce4-panel -r, but that did nothing. Then I decided to try the Install
> Mint button, and suddenly the screen blacked out with text rolling down
> saying
>
> 1529.99 SQASHFS error squashfs_read_data failed to read
> block0x40f81eeb
>
> The block number on the right remains constant, but the left number
> increments with each new line, with a new line every millisecond or so.
>
> I can't get a terminal open, and even the power button won't function.
> It looks like I'm just going to have to sit here until the battery runs
> down.
>
> Maybe I should just throw it off a bridge.
>


Re: [PLUG] Can't shut down

2022-02-03 Thread Russell Senior
That's your live boot media. Try writing it again, or try a different USB
thumb drive, maybe?

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022, 20:38 John Jason Jordan  wrote:

> I my travails with the new Dell laptop, while trying Mint I clicked on
> something and the panel disappeared. It was Mint Xfce so I tried
> xfce4-panel -r, but that did nothing. Then I decided to try the Install
> Mint button, and suddenly the screen blacked out with text rolling down
> saying
>
> 1529.99 SQASHFS error squashfs_read_data failed to read
> block0x40f81eeb
>
> The block number on the right remains constant, but the left number
> increments with each new line, with a new line every millisecond or so.
>
> I can't get a terminal open, and even the power button won't function.
> It looks like I'm just going to have to sit here until the battery runs
> down.
>
> Maybe I should just throw it off a bridge.
>


[PLUG] Can't shut down

2022-02-03 Thread John Jason Jordan
I my travails with the new Dell laptop, while trying Mint I clicked on
something and the panel disappeared. It was Mint Xfce so I tried
xfce4-panel -r, but that did nothing. Then I decided to try the Install
Mint button, and suddenly the screen blacked out with text rolling down
saying

1529.99 SQASHFS error squashfs_read_data failed to read
block0x40f81eeb

The block number on the right remains constant, but the left number
increments with each new line, with a new line every millisecond or so.

I can't get a terminal open, and even the power button won't function.
It looks like I'm just going to have to sit here until the battery runs
down.

Maybe I should just throw it off a bridge.


Re: [PLUG] Slackware 15.0 finally happened!

2022-02-03 Thread Wayne E. Van Loon Sr.

Amen! (Praise Bob)

My first Slackware system required a bunch of floppy disks, maybe 1996?. 
Business partners and myself at the time thought Debian was a better 
choice and we never did any projects with that Slackware.


Later on and working as a sole proprietor, I needed pretty firm 
real-time performance and decided to try RTLinux developed at New Mexico 
Institute of Mining and Technology. The RTLinux patches at the time 
required a standard kernel as released by the kernel developers which 
was what Slackware shipped with. So I went back to Slackware and stayed 
there even after the standard kernels evolved to having a option to 
recompile to decent real-time performance.


I am retired now, but last year a customer from 2011 wanted to update 
one of my systems. It is a distributed processing system doing some 
optimization on logs that are up to 70 Ft. in length with some machine 
control. The system originally utilized 6 ea. 6 core Athlons running 32 
bit Slackware. I moved the system to Slackware64 current (current in May 
2021) running on a SuperMicro SuperServer with 2 ea 12 core Xeon 
processors. Man what a machine!


I am old now and I guess that was my swan song. I made a living for 
years using Slackware and was able to save enough to retire comfortably.


Wayne

On 2/3/22 1:27 PM, Ben Koenig wrote:

It finally happened! Slackware 15.0 has been released!
http://www.slackware.com/

The world's oldest active Linux distro lives on! Praise Bob!

-Ben




Re: [PLUG] Location Server?

2022-02-03 Thread Bill Barry
On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 6:36 PM Michael Barnes  wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 7:51 AM Bill Barry  wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022, 1:48 AM Russell Senior 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Your computers will, of course, be in different locations, but I
>> > concur on gpsd as probably the right tools for what you describe.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 10:06 PM Michael Barnes 
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I know about time (ntp) servers I can hook a GPS to a computer and
>> > > broadcast time to the other computers in my local network.
>> > >
>> > > Is it possible to do this with location information? I have various
>> > > programs which can take data from a GPS dongle and use it in the program
>> > > for different purposes. With a number of computers in my office, I would
>> > > like to somehow hook only one to a GPS and share the location data
>> > > throughout the network. Otherwise, I have to get multiple GPS receivers
>> > and
>> > > hook one to each computer.
>> > >
>> > > Is this doable?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Michael
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> Assuming the computers are not moving  you could just use the gps to
>> determine their position one time and record it in some file on that
>> computer.
>>
>> Bill
>
>
> Incorrect assumption. Ultimately, if this proves to be viable, it would be 
> incorporated into a deployment package where multiple operating positions 
> would be deployed to a site. There would be multiple computers that would 
> have various applications running that need to have accurate position 
> information. Right now, those applications are looking for serial GPS 
> connections. Somewhat related to this is a marine application for boats that 
> have a central GPS device that would feed several devices needing location 
> data. Having a separate GPS receiver for each piece of equipment is 
> impractical.
>
> Michael
>

gpsd might be what you are looking for,  but it also should be
possible to use socat to share the serial port.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22624653/create-a-virtual-serial-port-connection-over-tcp/22689163

Bill


Re: [PLUG] Can't get into BIOS, Dell Latitude 7275

2022-02-03 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 16:11:11 -0800
John Jason Jordan  dijo:

>>Does anyone know the secret way to boot to the BIOS?
>
>Never mind, I finally succeeded. Xubuntu Live is running. The
>touchscreen and the wifi are both working, so I'm going to hit the
>Install icon.

A slight problem before I install Xubuntu: With Xubuntu Live the
touchscreen is working, but when I rotate the screen it stays in
landscape mode. Not good for reading books and journal articles.

Before I bought this computer I asked the eBay seller if the screen
automatically rotated when you hold it portrait, and he said that it
did. Of course, all he had was Windows 10. And it does work with
Windows 10, which I verified the few times it started to boot Windows
before I finally got the BIOS/UEFI straightened out.

Does anyone know of a simple utility to make Xubuntu automatically
rotate the 1920x1080 screen? The machine must have a sensor that
Windows gets its orientation information from, but I don't have any
idea how to access it. All I can think of is xrandr, but that's kind of
clumsy if you have to switch back and forth.


Re: [PLUG] Can't get into BIOS, Dell Latitude 7275

2022-02-03 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 16:41:32 -0800
VY  dijo:

>Can you share steps how you get into the BIOS to boot from a linux
>live USB?
>
>I have one coming soon.
>I am a bit concern that these newer laptops may have something
>incompatible so I also want to try with a live USB first.
>( I am planning to use Linux Mint)

It's kinda tricky because it doesn't always work. My technique is to
shut the computer completely down and then, with the Xubuntu Live USB
plugged in, hold down F12 and keep holding it down while pressing the
power on button. If it works the screen shows the big Dell logo while
in the upper right corner it says 'preparing boot options.' A few
moments later you get a GUI showing the computer's hard drive and
'Windows,' and under it the USB stick with the identification that the
burn program put on it, 'Xubuntu 21.10' in my case. The touchscreen was
working, so I just selected Xubuntu, et voilà, It booted the Live
distro. 


Re: [PLUG] Can't get into BIOS, Dell Latitude 7275

2022-02-03 Thread Vince Winter
With windows 10 hold down shift then click on shutdown or restart. You will
get the advanced boot options, where you can get to the UEFI firmware
settings(ie bios options). Windows 10 likes to not actually shut down all
the way but using fastboot to more or less come back from sleep(kind of).

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 4:11 PM Jason Barnett 
wrote:

> Make sure you POWER OFF (not REBOOTING) the laptop before trying to get
> into the bios. I've had similar issues where I couldn't get into bios
> because you can only do so after a full power off. Some care, others don't,
> but worth a try.
>
> - Sent from my pocket computing telecommunications device.  All typos and
> poor communications will be blamed on the autocarrot function of said
> device.
>
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022, 3:25 PM John Jason Jordan  wrote:
>
> > My Dell Latitude 7275 2-in-1 was delivered an hour ago. My plan was to
> > boot to an Xubuntu 21.10 live USB to figure out if it would even work
> > and, if it does work, then install it, wiping out the Windows 10
> > already installed.
> >
> > I have the Xubuntu USB plugged in, but the laptop just boots directly
> > to Windows. According to Dell Support for the Latitude 7275:
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000131221/how-to-boot-to-an-external-device-using-usb-type-c-connection
> >
> > Please enable below two options to support boot from external
> > device.
> >
> > At boot, Press the F2 key (or alternately press the F12 key
> > then select the option to enter the BIOS setup). In POST
> > Behavior, Select - Fastboot the select the Thorough option
> > (Figure 1):
> >
> > I tried tapping F2 repeatedly after pressing the power button, but it
> > has no effect - it still goes straight into Windows. I also tried
> > holding F2 down continuously, but it still boots directly to Windows.
> > And I did the same using F12, with no success.
> >
> > Does anyone know the secret way to boot to the BIOS?
> >
>


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Re: [PLUG] Can't get into BIOS, Dell Latitude 7275

2022-02-03 Thread VY
Can you share steps how you get into the BIOS to boot from a linux live USB?

I have one coming soon.
I am a bit concern that these newer laptops may have something incompatible
so I also want to try with a live USB first.
( I am planning to use Linux Mint)

thanks


On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 4:11 PM John Jason Jordan  wrote:

> >Does anyone know the secret way to boot to the BIOS?
>
> Never mind, I finally succeeded. Xubuntu Live is running. The
> touchscreen and the wifi are both working, so I'm going to hit the
> Install icon.
>


Re: [PLUG] Location Server?

2022-02-03 Thread Michael Barnes
On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 7:51 AM Bill Barry  wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022, 1:48 AM Russell Senior 
> wrote:
>
> > Your computers will, of course, be in different locations, but I
> > concur on gpsd as probably the right tools for what you describe.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 10:06 PM Michael Barnes 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I know about time (ntp) servers I can hook a GPS to a computer and
> > > broadcast time to the other computers in my local network.
> > >
> > > Is it possible to do this with location information? I have various
> > > programs which can take data from a GPS dongle and use it in the
> program
> > > for different purposes. With a number of computers in my office, I
> would
> > > like to somehow hook only one to a GPS and share the location data
> > > throughout the network. Otherwise, I have to get multiple GPS receivers
> > and
> > > hook one to each computer.
> > >
> > > Is this doable?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Michael
> >
>
> >
>
> Assuming the computers are not moving  you could just use the gps to
> determine their position one time and record it in some file on that
> computer.
>
> Bill
>

Incorrect assumption. Ultimately, if this proves to be viable, it would be
incorporated into a deployment package where multiple operating positions
would be deployed to a site. There would be multiple computers that would
have various applications running that need to have accurate position
information. Right now, those applications are looking for serial GPS
connections. Somewhat related to this is a marine application for boats
that have a central GPS device that would feed several devices needing
location data. Having a separate GPS receiver for each piece of equipment
is impractical.

Michael


Re: [PLUG] Can't get into BIOS, Dell Latitude 7275

2022-02-03 Thread Jason Barnett
Make sure you POWER OFF (not REBOOTING) the laptop before trying to get
into the bios. I've had similar issues where I couldn't get into bios
because you can only do so after a full power off. Some care, others don't,
but worth a try.

- Sent from my pocket computing telecommunications device.  All typos and
poor communications will be blamed on the autocarrot function of said
device.

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022, 3:25 PM John Jason Jordan  wrote:

> My Dell Latitude 7275 2-in-1 was delivered an hour ago. My plan was to
> boot to an Xubuntu 21.10 live USB to figure out if it would even work
> and, if it does work, then install it, wiping out the Windows 10
> already installed.
>
> I have the Xubuntu USB plugged in, but the laptop just boots directly
> to Windows. According to Dell Support for the Latitude 7275:
>
>
> https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000131221/how-to-boot-to-an-external-device-using-usb-type-c-connection
>
> Please enable below two options to support boot from external
> device.
>
> At boot, Press the F2 key (or alternately press the F12 key
> then select the option to enter the BIOS setup). In POST
> Behavior, Select - Fastboot the select the Thorough option
> (Figure 1):
>
> I tried tapping F2 repeatedly after pressing the power button, but it
> has no effect - it still goes straight into Windows. I also tried
> holding F2 down continuously, but it still boots directly to Windows.
> And I did the same using F12, with no success.
>
> Does anyone know the secret way to boot to the BIOS?
>


Re: [PLUG] Can't get into BIOS, Dell Latitude 7275

2022-02-03 Thread John Jason Jordan
>Does anyone know the secret way to boot to the BIOS?

Never mind, I finally succeeded. Xubuntu Live is running. The
touchscreen and the wifi are both working, so I'm going to hit the
Install icon.


[PLUG] Can't get into BIOS, Dell Latitude 7275

2022-02-03 Thread John Jason Jordan
My Dell Latitude 7275 2-in-1 was delivered an hour ago. My plan was to
boot to an Xubuntu 21.10 live USB to figure out if it would even work
and, if it does work, then install it, wiping out the Windows 10
already installed.

I have the Xubuntu USB plugged in, but the laptop just boots directly
to Windows. According to Dell Support for the Latitude 7275:

https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000131221/how-to-boot-to-an-external-device-using-usb-type-c-connection

Please enable below two options to support boot from external
device.

At boot, Press the F2 key (or alternately press the F12 key
then select the option to enter the BIOS setup). In POST
Behavior, Select - Fastboot the select the Thorough option
(Figure 1):

I tried tapping F2 repeatedly after pressing the power button, but it
has no effect - it still goes straight into Windows. I also tried
holding F2 down continuously, but it still boots directly to Windows.
And I did the same using F12, with no success.

Does anyone know the secret way to boot to the BIOS?


Re: [PLUG] Slackware 15.0 finally happened!

2022-02-03 Thread Tomas Kuchta
My first X on PC was XFree86 on fairly recent SuSE, think they just
switched from Slackware then.

Before PC - I used some X looking/feeling thing on sunOS, VMS and HPUX, if
i recall these abbreviations correctly.

-T

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022, 17:23 Russell Senior  wrote:

> My first distro was SLS in December 1992. I was an early adopter of
> Debian when it came along.
>
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 2:10 PM Paul Heinlein  wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 3 Feb 2022, Ben Koenig wrote:
> >
> > > It finally happened! Slackware 15.0 has been released!
> > > http://www.slackware.com/
> > >
> > > The world's oldest active Linux distro lives on! Praise Bob!
> >
> > I remember installing Slackware '95. It was my first experience with
> > Linux and difficult for me to fully understand. But it ran, and I got
> > X11 configured. So chuffed was I! :-)
> >
> > --
> > Paul Heinlein
> > heinl...@madboa.com
> > 45.38° N, 122.59° W
>


[PLUG] Rebuilding backup RAID1

2022-02-03 Thread Rich Shepard

Because one of the WD Blue disks in the backup RAID1, /dev/md0, failed I
bought a pair of WD Red NASdrives. They're installed and partitioned as a
linux filesystem. They show up in fdisk -l as /dev/sde/ and /dev/sdf/.

When I try to create a new RAID1 on these disks I get this result:
# mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 -l 1 -n 2 /dev/sd{e,f}
mdadm: /dev/sde appears to be part of a raid array:
   level=raid0 devices=0 ctime=Wed Dec 31 16:00:00 1969
mdadm: partition table exists on /dev/sde but will be lost or
   meaningless after creating array
mdadm: Note: this array has metadata at the start and
may not be suitable as a boot device.  If you plan to
store '/boot' on this device please ensure that
your boot-loader understands md/v1.x metadata, or use
--metadata=0.90
mdadm: /dev/sdf appears to be part of a raid array:
   level=raid0 devices=0 ctime=Wed Dec 31 16:00:00 1969
mdadm: partition table exists on /dev/sdf but will be lost or
   meaningless after creating array
mdadm: size set to 1953383488K
mdadm: automatically enabling write-intent bitmap on large array
Continue creating array? yes
mdadm: /dev/md0 is already in use.

I deleted /dev/md0, but mdadm still sees it being present. As I need only
one RAID how can I get mdadm to create a new /dev/md0 because it's not in
/dev/.

Rich



Re: [PLUG] Slackware 15.0 finally happened!

2022-02-03 Thread Russell Senior
My first distro was SLS in December 1992. I was an early adopter of
Debian when it came along.

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 2:10 PM Paul Heinlein  wrote:
>
> On Thu, 3 Feb 2022, Ben Koenig wrote:
>
> > It finally happened! Slackware 15.0 has been released!
> > http://www.slackware.com/
> >
> > The world's oldest active Linux distro lives on! Praise Bob!
>
> I remember installing Slackware '95. It was my first experience with
> Linux and difficult for me to fully understand. But it ran, and I got
> X11 configured. So chuffed was I! :-)
>
> --
> Paul Heinlein
> heinl...@madboa.com
> 45.38° N, 122.59° W


Re: [PLUG] Slackware 15.0 finally happened!

2022-02-03 Thread Paul Heinlein

On Thu, 3 Feb 2022, Ben Koenig wrote:


It finally happened! Slackware 15.0 has been released!
http://www.slackware.com/

The world's oldest active Linux distro lives on! Praise Bob!


I remember installing Slackware '95. It was my first experience with 
Linux and difficult for me to fully understand. But it ran, and I got 
X11 configured. So chuffed was I! :-)


--
Paul Heinlein
heinl...@madboa.com
45.38° N, 122.59° W

[PLUG] TONIGHT! PLUG Meeting: This is a test(1): A shell scripter's guide to ubiquitous assumption testing

2022-02-03 Thread Michael Dexter

Portland Linux/Unix Group General Meeting Announcement

Who: Michael Dexter
What: This is a test(1): A shell scripter's guide to ubiquitous 
assumption testing

Where: Zoom, flawed as it is, link below
When: Thursday, February 3rd, 2022 at 7pm
Why: The pursuit of technology freedom

"Look before you leap" is a valuable lesson in many aspects of life but 
particularly in computer science and administration. Responsible 
developers make extensive use of the test(1), a.k.a. "[" utility which 
quickly and programmatically tests assumptions as simple as, "does this 
file exist", relying on zero and non-zero return values to answer that 
question. This deceptively-simple yet highly-efficient use of return 
values can avoid hours of debugging and achieve goals such as 
idempotence. This talk will explain the importance of the test(1) 
utility, and explain similar functionality in other utilities such as 
FreeBSD's grep(1), kldstat(8), and others that support "-q quiet" mode. 
It will also identify opportunities for additional "quiet mode" 
functionality.


About Michael

He broke it, he bought it. Michael has organized PLUG since late 2009 
and did not find a speaker. By day, Michael has nursed depressed NAS 
systems back to life since 2012.



https://us06web.zoom.us/j/85249530401?pwd=dWZPTllGRk1udWtVRXB0STZ2VlJXZz09

Meeting ID: 852 4953 0401
Passcode: 8675309
One tap mobile
+13462487799,,85249530401# US (Houston)
+17207072699,,85249530401# US (Denver)


PLUG is open to everyone and does not tolerate abusive behavior on its 
mailing lists or at its meetings.


PLUG Page with information about all PLUG events: http://pdxlinux.org/
Follow PLUG on Twitter: http://twitter.com/pdxlinux

Michael Dexter
PLUG Volunteer


[PLUG-ANNOUNCE] TONIGHT! PLUG Meeting: This is a test(1): A shell scripter's guide to ubiquitous assumption testing

2022-02-03 Thread Michael Dexter

Portland Linux/Unix Group General Meeting Announcement

Who: Michael Dexter
What: This is a test(1): A shell scripter's guide to ubiquitous 
assumption testing

Where: Zoom, flawed as it is, link below
When: Thursday, February 3rd, 2022 at 7pm
Why: The pursuit of technology freedom

"Look before you leap" is a valuable lesson in many aspects of life but 
particularly in computer science and administration. Responsible 
developers make extensive use of the test(1), a.k.a. "[" utility which 
quickly and programmatically tests assumptions as simple as, "does this 
file exist", relying on zero and non-zero return values to answer that 
question. This deceptively-simple yet highly-efficient use of return 
values can avoid hours of debugging and achieve goals such as 
idempotence. This talk will explain the importance of the test(1) 
utility, and explain similar functionality in other utilities such as 
FreeBSD's grep(1), kldstat(8), and others that support "-q quiet" mode. 
It will also identify opportunities for additional "quiet mode" 
functionality.


About Michael

He broke it, he bought it. Michael has organized PLUG since late 2009 
and did not find a speaker. By day, Michael has nursed depressed NAS 
systems back to life since 2012.



https://us06web.zoom.us/j/85249530401?pwd=dWZPTllGRk1udWtVRXB0STZ2VlJXZz09

Meeting ID: 852 4953 0401
Passcode: 8675309
One tap mobile
+13462487799,,85249530401# US (Houston)
+17207072699,,85249530401# US (Denver)


PLUG is open to everyone and does not tolerate abusive behavior on its 
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Re: [PLUG] Location Server?

2022-02-03 Thread Bill Barry
On Thu, Feb 3, 2022, 1:48 AM Russell Senior 
wrote:

> Your computers will, of course, be in different locations, but I
> concur on gpsd as probably the right tools for what you describe.
>
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 10:06 PM Michael Barnes 
> wrote:
> >
> > I know about time (ntp) servers I can hook a GPS to a computer and
> > broadcast time to the other computers in my local network.
> >
> > Is it possible to do this with location information? I have various
> > programs which can take data from a GPS dongle and use it in the program
> > for different purposes. With a number of computers in my office, I would
> > like to somehow hook only one to a GPS and share the location data
> > throughout the network. Otherwise, I have to get multiple GPS receivers
> and
> > hook one to each computer.
> >
> > Is this doable?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Michael
>

>

Assuming the computers are not moving  you could just use the gps to
determine their position one time and record it in some file on that
computer.

Bill