Re: [PLUG] Seeking web developer who knows the Hugo framework

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 28 Oct 2022, Kevin Brooks wrote:


What are the issues you can’t fix?


Kevin,

It's 2 steps forward and 1 step back. The latest step back comes from adding
the hugo-debug-utils.


Jumping into a broken (?) template based on (the old) bootstrap4 might be
more difficult than just developing the site from scratch.


I tried using the Hugo-Tikva theme but found it much too complex. The
Hugo-Justice theme is clean and I belive it is a good look for my needs.
Tikva is not supported and the developers of Justice didn't respond to my
email asking for assistance.


I’ve built a couple of Hugo based sites and of all the static site
generators I’ve used I like Hugo the best. The site/page rebuild speed is
unmatched. The file structure is straight forward and the included tools
make a lot of things - easy.


Yes, it's great to spend the learning time when developing multiple sites.
I'm interested in only upgrading my site.


Another nice static site generator is Publii (https://getpublii.com). It’s
great for smaller sites and a lot easier to learn (it includes a GUI) than
most static site generators, including Hugo (huge learning curve). Did you
buy a copy of the Hugo book? It’s excellent and was a huge help to me when
I decided to learn Hugo.


I purchased the PDF versions of Atishay Jain's "Hugo in Action" and Brian
Hogan's "Build Websites With Hugo." Read most of both. The former focuses on
corporate development teams while the latter focuses on a single web site.
Perhaps reading both contributed to my confusion. :-)

I like the Hugo Justice theme and have no idea how to modify it from
bootstrap4 or use it to accommodate nested/sub menus; the latter seems to
have caused a lot of pain.

I'll look at Publii.

Thanks,

Rich

Re: [PLUG] Seeking web developer who knows the Hugo framework

[Kevin Brooks]

What are the issues you can’t fix? Adding search and images isn’t too 
difficult. Jumping into a broken (?) template based on (the old) bootstrap4 
might be more difficult than just developing the site from scratch. I’ve built 
a couple of Hugo based sites and of all the static site generators I’ve used I 
like Hugo the best. The site/page rebuild speed is unmatched. The file 
structure is straight forward and the included tools make a lot of things - 
easy. Another nice static site generator is Publii (https://getpublii.com). 
It’s great for smaller sites and a lot easier to learn (it includes a GUI) than 
most static site generators, including Hugo (huge learning curve). Did you buy 
a copy of the Hugo book? It’s excellent and was a huge help to me when I 
decided to learn Hugo.

Kevin

> On Oct 28, 2022, at 9:06 AM, Rich Shepard  wrote:
> 
> I've been trying to modernize my company web site from plain html5/css3
> usint the Hugo static site framework, but the Go templating language is
> beyond me. I have the content and basic strucure (using the Justice
> template) but there are issues I cannot fix. Adding a debugging tool
> generates more, and different errors.
> 
> I have a limited budget but would like someone to clean up the code, add a
> couple of images, and a site search capability. The development code (using
> ipsum lorus text) is on github:
> .
> 
> If you, or someone you know, might be able to help me contact me off the
> mail list.
> 
> Rich
> 

Re: [PLUG] Seeking web developer who knows the Hugo framework

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 28 Oct 2022, John Sechrest wrote:


Let me suggest that you might find a tool like Gatsby a bit easier to
maintain, since it is not based on Go.
https://www.gatsbyjs.com/


John,

Thanks. I'll look at Gatsby.


A markup based static site might get you a long way.


Hugo's content is based on markdown as well as toml and yaml.

Regards,

Rich

Re: [PLUG] Seeking web developer who knows the Hugo framework

[John Sechrest]

Let me suggest that you might find a tool like Gatsby a bit easier to
maintain, since it is not based on Go.

https://www.gatsbyjs.com/

There are several static website engines, so you have several choices.

A markup based static site might get you a long way.

On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 9:06 AM Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> I've been trying to modernize my company web site from plain html5/css3
> usint the Hugo static site framework, but the Go templating language is
> beyond me. I have the content and basic strucure (using the Justice
> template) but there are issues I cannot fix. Adding a debugging tool
> generates more, and different errors.
>
> I have a limited budget but would like someone to clean up the code, add a
> couple of images, and a site search capability. The development code (using
> ipsum lorus text) is on github:
> .
>
> If you, or someone you know, might be able to help me contact me off the
> mail list.
>
> Rich
>
>

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Re: [PLUG] Seeking web developer who knows the Hugo framework

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 28 Oct 2022, Russell Senior wrote:


I can honestly say that I have never heard of the Hugo framework. My
general advice would be to stick with something widely adopted and
understood. But I don't have any particular expertise in web dev.


Russell,

My searches taught me that Hugo is one of the most popular frameworks for
static web sites.

Regards,

Rich

Re: [PLUG] Nordic, Russian keyboards TAKE TWO

[Ali Corbin]

On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 11:21 PM Keith Lofstrom  wrote:

> I will clarify a bit -
>
> Lately I've encountered MANY pages of photocopied Russian
> and Cyrillic, some sent by my respondents, some with the
> name Кит Лофстром in them, and I want to suss out roughly
> what they are before I select a few for professional
> translation, the $$$ kind.
>
> Sorry, I didn't realize that you were starting with images.
The quickest way to input the text would probably be to run the image
through tesseract, specifying the language it's in.  I've found it does a
pretty good job.  (You might still have to fix the smudges, but it might
even be able to figure those out from its dictionary.)

Re: [PLUG] Seeking web developer who knows the Hugo framework

[Paul Heinlein]

On Fri, 28 Oct 2022, Russell Senior wrote:


I can honestly say that I have never heard of the Hugo framework. My
general advice would be to stick with something widely adopted and
understood. But I don't have any particular expertise in web dev.


I use Hugo for madboa.com. It's reasonably good at what it does, but 
the Go templating language is ... quirky. I like it because it allows 
me to manage a fully templated site but using all static content and 
not a live system like PHP.


--
Paul Heinlein
heinl...@madboa.com
45°22'48" N, 122°35'36" W

Re: [PLUG] Seeking web developer who knows the Hugo framework

[Russell Senior]

I can honestly say that I have never heard of the Hugo framework. My
general advice would be to stick with something widely adopted and
understood. But I don't have any particular expertise in web dev.

On Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 09:06 Rich Shepard  wrote:

> I've been trying to modernize my company web site from plain html5/css3
> usint the Hugo static site framework, but the Go templating language is
> beyond me. I have the content and basic strucure (using the Justice
> template) but there are issues I cannot fix. Adding a debugging tool
> generates more, and different errors.
>
> I have a limited budget but would like someone to clean up the code, add a
> couple of images, and a site search capability. The development code (using
> ipsum lorus text) is on github:
> .
>
> If you, or someone you know, might be able to help me contact me off the
> mail list.
>
> Rich
>
>

[PLUG] Seeking web developer who knows the Hugo framework

[Rich Shepard]

I've been trying to modernize my company web site from plain html5/css3
usint the Hugo static site framework, but the Go templating language is
beyond me. I have the content and basic strucure (using the Justice
template) but there are issues I cannot fix. Adding a debugging tool
generates more, and different errors.

I have a limited budget but would like someone to clean up the code, add a
couple of images, and a site search capability. The development code (using
ipsum lorus text) is on github:
.

If you, or someone you know, might be able to help me contact me off the
mail list.

Rich

Re: [PLUG] Nordic, Russian keyboards TAKE TWO

[Russell Senior]

Re Cyrillic, there isn't quite a direct transliteration from US_en latin
letters to the phonetics of Cyrillic. I learned to pronounce Cyrillic when
I was in college and used to correspond in hand-written pseudo-Russian with
my dad. It was all in English, but spelled phonetically with Cyrillic
characters which was fun, but there were some gymnastics involved in using
a Cyrillic character that made the weird English sounds I was aiming for.
It probably also amused the people steaming open the mail.

Re nordic, I studied Swedish for a few years, half-heartedly (the one
phrase I really mastered was: "Jag förstår inte"). That's going to be at
least similar to Norwegian. In Swedish, there are literally just three
extra letters: å, ä, and ö.  From consulting wikipedia, Norwegian also has
three extra letters: æ, ø and å. Learning how to produce the three extra
letters with the compose key shouldn't be too onerous (see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key#Common_compose_combinations).
Finnish looks similar (mostly Swedish with a few extra for borrow words
from other languages, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_orthography
).



On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 11:48 PM Simon McGrath 
wrote:

> If your goal is simply transliteration I think it would be more apt to
> memorize the pronunciation of each Cyrillic character than to learn to
> type it on a keyboard in a way that substitutes a partially-
> correspondent English letter for each Russian letter.
>
> I'm a bit confused at your hangup about 2-byte unicode vs ASCII, since
> I was under the impression that an ordinary computer will properly
> transform the incoming keyboard data into unicode. The keyboard input
> is not ascii, and this is the data my computer receives when I press
> the a key:
>
> : 307a 5b63   7137 0d00    0z[cq7..
> 0010: 0400 0400 1e00  307a 5b63    0z[c
> 0020: 7137 0d00   0100 1e00 0100   q7..
> 0030: 307a 5b63   7137 0d00    0z[cq7..
>
> -Simon
>
> On Thu, 2022-10-27 at 23:16 -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 08:19:00PM -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
> > > I hope to purchase native "Nordic" and "Cyrillic/Russian"
> > > USB keyboards.
> > >
> > > I exchange emails with Swedish and Finnish writers, and
> > > recently a Berlin author writing a Russian language book.
> > > Multinational geekiness for a monolingual American.
> > >
> > > Google translate is often helpful, and I can cut and paste
> > > from that, but sometimes I need to type the special letters
> > > in these languages; remembering and typing the digraphs is
> > > a pain.
> >
> > --
> >
> > For all of you cheerfully answering the wrong question,
> > not about KEYBOARDS, I thought I would repeat it, above.
> >
> > I will clarify a bit -
> >
> > Lately I've encountered MANY pages of photocopied Russian
> > and Cyrillic, some sent by my respondents, some with the
> > name Кит Лофстром in them, and I want to suss out roughly
> > what they are before I select a few for professional
> > translation, the $$$ kind.
> >
> > Or use the impose-on-my-Russian-speaking-friends kind of
> > translation.  A keyboard with "native" Cyrillic key-caps
> > would be helpful for visually transcribing a few lines of
> > text ... with trial-and-error for the characters that
> > are so smudged that they will require a few guesses.
> >
> > Ditto for Swedish and Finnish.
> >
> > I can indeed chord a US-English keyboard, SLOWLY
> > generating alt-alphabet characters as some respondents
> > suggest, but my time is worth more than that.  I could
> > even read a table and type the ISO hexadecimal, wasting
> > even more time.
> >
> > But I am working too many hours as it is, and if I am
> > willing to spend spend $17,000 for a new roof next week,
> > I can spend $50-$100 on an alternate alphabet keyboard
> > if that saves me many hours.
> >
> > As the list conversation drifted off into the weeds, I
> > punted and ordered a Nordic keyboard for $40 yesterday.
> > But ... it may not generate two-byte Unicode, or it may
> > not signal its "Nordic-ness" to the computer.  Perhaps I
> > wasted my money, along a two week wait for the delivery
> > time from Europe.
> >
> > But if that Nordic keyboard can be made to work the way
> > I want, generating Nordic characters from Nordic-topped
> > key clicks, in parallel with a US-ASCII keyboard generating
> > US-ASCII characters, I will try punting again, and order
> > a more-costly Cyrillic keyboard, and wait even longer for
> > that to be delivered, perhaps purchased from some dodgy
> > central European vendor who also buys baby-killing gas
> > for the P-twit in the East.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Or perhaps ... someone can answer the question about two
> > keyboards at once with different character sets.  I know I
> > can connect two US-ASCII USB keyboards into one computer,
> > and type the US-ASCII letters from either keyboard.
> >
> > 

Re: [PLUG] Nordic, Russian keyboards TAKE TWO

[Simon McGrath]

If your goal is simply transliteration I think it would be more apt to
memorize the pronunciation of each Cyrillic character than to learn to
type it on a keyboard in a way that substitutes a partially-
correspondent English letter for each Russian letter.

I'm a bit confused at your hangup about 2-byte unicode vs ASCII, since
I was under the impression that an ordinary computer will properly
transform the incoming keyboard data into unicode. The keyboard input
is not ascii, and this is the data my computer receives when I press
the a key:

: 307a 5b63   7137 0d00    0z[cq7..
0010: 0400 0400 1e00  307a 5b63    0z[c
0020: 7137 0d00   0100 1e00 0100   q7..
0030: 307a 5b63   7137 0d00    0z[cq7..

-Simon

On Thu, 2022-10-27 at 23:16 -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 08:19:00PM -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
> > I hope to purchase native "Nordic" and "Cyrillic/Russian"
> > USB keyboards.
> > 
> > I exchange emails with Swedish and Finnish writers, and
> > recently a Berlin author writing a Russian language book.
> > Multinational geekiness for a monolingual American.
> > 
> > Google translate is often helpful, and I can cut and paste
> > from that, but sometimes I need to type the special letters
> > in these languages; remembering and typing the digraphs is
> > a pain.
> 
> --
> 
> For all of you cheerfully answering the wrong question,
> not about KEYBOARDS, I thought I would repeat it, above.
> 
> I will clarify a bit - 
> 
> Lately I've encountered MANY pages of photocopied Russian
> and Cyrillic, some sent by my respondents, some with the
> name Кит Лофстром in them, and I want to suss out roughly
> what they are before I select a few for professional
> translation, the $$$ kind.
> 
> Or use the impose-on-my-Russian-speaking-friends kind of
> translation.  A keyboard with "native" Cyrillic key-caps
> would be helpful for visually transcribing a few lines of
> text ... with trial-and-error for the characters that
> are so smudged that they will require a few guesses.  
> 
> Ditto for Swedish and Finnish.
> 
> I can indeed chord a US-English keyboard, SLOWLY
> generating alt-alphabet characters as some respondents
> suggest, but my time is worth more than that.  I could
> even read a table and type the ISO hexadecimal, wasting
> even more time. 
> 
> But I am working too many hours as it is, and if I am
> willing to spend spend $17,000 for a new roof next week,
> I can spend $50-$100 on an alternate alphabet keyboard
> if that saves me many hours.
> 
> As the list conversation drifted off into the weeds, I
> punted and ordered a Nordic keyboard for $40 yesterday.
> But ... it may not generate two-byte Unicode, or it may
> not signal its "Nordic-ness" to the computer.  Perhaps I
> wasted my money, along a two week wait for the delivery
> time from Europe. 
> 
> But if that Nordic keyboard can be made to work the way
> I want, generating Nordic characters from Nordic-topped
> key clicks, in parallel with a US-ASCII keyboard generating
> US-ASCII characters, I will try punting again, and order
> a more-costly Cyrillic keyboard, and wait even longer for
> that to be delivered, perhaps purchased from some dodgy
> central European vendor who also buys baby-killing gas
> for the P-twit in the East.
> 
> 
> 
> Or perhaps ... someone can answer the question about two
> keyboards at once with different character sets.  I know I
> can connect two US-ASCII USB keyboards into one computer,
> and type the US-ASCII letters from either keyboard.
> 
> What happens if I pair US-ASCII with "Euro", perhaps with
> two different logins?
> 
> If that won't work on one computer, perhaps I could plug
> two keyboards into two different computers, re-configure
> the Other computer for "native" Swedish or Finnish or
> Cyrillic, and ssh the result to the US-ASCII computer.
> 
> But Linux is multilingual, and its originator is a 
> Swedish-speaking Finn.  WWLD?  What Would Linus Do?
> 
> Keith
> 

[PLUG] Finally upgraded to Ubuntu 20.04 from 16.04 LTS

[Tony Schlemmer]

I finally upgraded my laptop to 20.04. I orginally had 16.04 LTS and so
there was not way to upgrade directly from 16.04 to 20.04 without
upgrading for 18.04 first. Very smooth upgrade process overall. I did
not have to restall my printers of anything. I know there is a Ubuntu
22.04 as well but I will wait for a while for that. 

I did backup my home directory but the upgrade went very smoothly. I
decided to keep my existing laptop but I had to buy  some new Lithium
Ion batteries since my current set would hold a charge but the lifespan
was gone after 5 years.

I use this for some of my work and also using digikam for my pictures.
I still have all of my pictures but the new version of digikam needs a
database or something. I will look into fixing digikam later.

Tony

-- 
Tony Schlemmer 

[PLUG] Nordic, Russian keyboards TAKE TWO

[Keith Lofstrom]

On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 08:19:00PM -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
> I hope to purchase native "Nordic" and "Cyrillic/Russian"
> USB keyboards.
> 
> I exchange emails with Swedish and Finnish writers, and
> recently a Berlin author writing a Russian language book.
> Multinational geekiness for a monolingual American.
> 
> Google translate is often helpful, and I can cut and paste
> from that, but sometimes I need to type the special letters
> in these languages; remembering and typing the digraphs is
> a pain.

--

For all of you cheerfully answering the wrong question,
not about KEYBOARDS, I thought I would repeat it, above.

I will clarify a bit - 

Lately I've encountered MANY pages of photocopied Russian
and Cyrillic, some sent by my respondents, some with the
name Кит Лофстром in them, and I want to suss out roughly
what they are before I select a few for professional
translation, the $$$ kind.

Or use the impose-on-my-Russian-speaking-friends kind of
translation.  A keyboard with "native" Cyrillic key-caps
would be helpful for visually transcribing a few lines of
text ... with trial-and-error for the characters that
are so smudged that they will require a few guesses.  

Ditto for Swedish and Finnish.

I can indeed chord a US-English keyboard, SLOWLY
generating alt-alphabet characters as some respondents
suggest, but my time is worth more than that.  I could
even read a table and type the ISO hexadecimal, wasting
even more time. 

But I am working too many hours as it is, and if I am
willing to spend spend $17,000 for a new roof next week,
I can spend $50-$100 on an alternate alphabet keyboard
if that saves me many hours.

As the list conversation drifted off into the weeds, I
punted and ordered a Nordic keyboard for $40 yesterday.
But ... it may not generate two-byte Unicode, or it may
not signal its "Nordic-ness" to the computer.  Perhaps I
wasted my money, along a two week wait for the delivery
time from Europe. 

But if that Nordic keyboard can be made to work the way
I want, generating Nordic characters from Nordic-topped
key clicks, in parallel with a US-ASCII keyboard generating
US-ASCII characters, I will try punting again, and order
a more-costly Cyrillic keyboard, and wait even longer for
that to be delivered, perhaps purchased from some dodgy
central European vendor who also buys baby-killing gas
for the P-twit in the East.



Or perhaps ... someone can answer the question about two
keyboards at once with different character sets.  I know I
can connect two US-ASCII USB keyboards into one computer,
and type the US-ASCII letters from either keyboard.

What happens if I pair US-ASCII with "Euro", perhaps with
two different logins?

If that won't work on one computer, perhaps I could plug
two keyboards into two different computers, re-configure
the Other computer for "native" Swedish or Finnish or
Cyrillic, and ssh the result to the US-ASCII computer.

But Linux is multilingual, and its originator is a 
Swedish-speaking Finn.  WWLD?  What Would Linus Do?

Keith

-- 
Keith Lofstrom  kei...@keithl.com