Re: [PLUG] PLUG "Marketing" and hosting input welcome
i am bimodal. $dayjob is a bottom feeding scum sucking sillicone valley vendor who has not fired me yet. my research and personal life is quite different. yes, i am on mastodon enoclue@iox.exchange. my twitter accound has been dormant for ages. i do not use facebook et alia. i run my own mail, dns, jitsi, xmpp, ..., usually debian or freebsd. at least i no longer coordinate portland's fidonet :) i do not give a squat about external facing marketing stuff. but i admit it would be good if new folk could find portland's geek community. randy, a surly old curmudgeon, but not as surly as keith :)
Re: [PLUG] Question on Linux Firewalls (and hardware)
Hi, The Beelink U59 more than satisfies OPNSense’s recommended specifications. It should run just fine with that setup. Kevin On Thu, Jan 19, 2023, at 8:27 PM, MC_Sequoia wrote: > "See https://www.amazon.com/Beelink-Intel-2-9Ghz-USB3-0-Type-C/dp/B09J4D6TMG/ > > I am trying to determine if this is a good choice for the hardware or not?" > > The Opensense Hardware Sizing document is a good place to start. > https://docs.opnsense.org/manual/hardware.html > > It's the second result on a Google search of "Opensense firewall hardware". > >
[PLUG] PLUG "Marketing" and hosting input welcome
Hello again, A lot has changed since PLUG last met in person back in ... March of 2020 when we had a home lab show and tell * Work From Home went from a luxury to the norm, providing a slap in the face to disabled people who never doubted that it could be a thing. * As a result, online literacy improved, for lack of a better term. * Twitter, which I was using for PLUG announcements went kinda weird. * The Fediverse rapidly went from a little known club of sorts to a compelling alternative. * The company volunteering the PLUG hosting was bought, aiming to eventually move the site to a VMware environment. * The cloud lost some of its shine with more and more self-hosted options emerging That said, how, beyond maybe a web site from this century, do think PLUG should present itself to the world? I don't envision it self-hosting services yet, especially the mailing lists, but I do encourage it to "dog food" open source software whenever possible. Are YOU on Mastodon/the Fediverse? Do one of you want to shepherd a Facebook or LinkedIn presence beyond what is there already? Are people still using Calagator? I see that it's still up and running and has events. What other new and old resources should we consider? David and I have always been in favor of simple solutions because they can be sustained for a decade or two with little maintenance. However... just last week I got a recorded meeting of a different topic posted to YouTube within hours of recording it. YouTube Studio has come a LONG way since I used it last and I should be able to finally get previous meeting recordings up. However... the YouTube factor remains: it is proprietary and a near-monopoly. Vimeo exists but I fear it would both paid and has far lower traffic. There's my brain dump on these topics, what's yours? All the best, Michael Dexter PLUG Volunteer
[PLUG] PLUG February 2nd In-Person Meeting Soft Announcement
Tap tap... is this thing on? Hello everyone. I have confirmed the venue in Hillsdale and am awaiting final speaker confirmation. I hope to post all details shortly. Topic: Zoneminder from an extremely-knowledgeable local presenter Some facts, policies, and requests: I would appreciate a person or two to arrive 30 minutes in advance to help with chairs. The venue officially wants payment but, full disclosure, supposedly PLUG has unclaimed donations with the State of Oregon. I have started the paperwork to find out more about this. Regardless of what the venue eventually costs, I will pass round a hat for donations for the center as I am very involved with it and trust me, things like new carpet would be nice. Every bit helps. We CAN have food and beverages there if that is of interest to people. There are table available but I do not think we want to drag them out. There is a Hillsdale McMenamins and food cards at the nearby high school that might still be open but how about "bring something if you like, clean it up if you spill it". As if those topics are not controversial enough, let's talk masks. My last two in-person tech conferences and two upcoming ones have strict masking and testing policies. They also kindly provide both quality masks and tests. We all want COVID-19 to be over and how about we continue to take steps toward that goal. Until further notice, I would like to enforce a mask policy for everyone but the active speaker, following the example of my recent conferences. I will bring a few sealed masks for those who need them and I am doing my best to have a streaming option for those who cannot risk any exposure or profoundly object to the mask policy. That all said, I have begun updating the web site and will keep filling in the various little bits that need to take place behind the scenes. Please check the site to see if I missed any of the softPLUG meetings in the Past Meeting Topics. Speaking of the site... it's dated as heck. I prefer keep it static but I will not rule out using a site generator or a SUPER modular HTML5 template. I am looking or one for another project but I am open to suggestions of a strategy that can last another decade or so. All the best, Michael Dexter PLUG Volunteer
[PLUG-ANNOUNCE] PLUG February 2nd In-Person Meeting Soft Announcement
Tap tap... is this thing on? Hello everyone. I have confirmed the venue in Hillsdale and am awaiting final speaker confirmation. I hope to post all details shortly. Topic: Zoneminder from an extremely-knowledgeable local presenter Some facts, policies, and requests: I would appreciate a person or two to arrive 30 minutes in advance to help with chairs. The venue officially wants payment but, full disclosure, supposedly PLUG has unclaimed donations with the State of Oregon. I have started the paperwork to find out more about this. Regardless of what the venue eventually costs, I will pass round a hat for donations for the center as I am very involved with it and trust me, things like new carpet would be nice. Every bit helps. We CAN have food and beverages there if that is of interest to people. There are table available but I do not think we want to drag them out. There is a Hillsdale McMenamins and food cards at the nearby high school that might still be open but how about "bring something if you like, clean it up if you spill it". As if those topics are not controversial enough, let's talk masks. My last two in-person tech conferences and two upcoming ones have strict masking and testing policies. They also kindly provide both quality masks and tests. We all want COVID-19 to be over and how about we continue to take steps toward that goal. Until further notice, I would like to enforce a mask policy for everyone but the active speaker, following the example of my recent conferences. I will bring a few sealed masks for those who need them and I am doing my best to have a streaming option for those who cannot risk any exposure or profoundly object to the mask policy. That all said, I have begun updating the web site and will keep filling in the various little bits that need to take place behind the scenes. Please check the site to see if I missed any of the softPLUG meetings in the Past Meeting Topics. Speaking of the site... it's dated as heck. I prefer keep it static but I will not rule out using a site generator or a SUPER modular HTML5 template. I am looking or one for another project but I am open to suggestions of a strategy that can last another decade or so. All the best, Michael Dexter PLUG Volunteer ___ PLUG: https://pdxlinux.org PLUG-announce mailing list PLUG-announce@pdxlinux.org https://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-announce
Re: [PLUG] Protonmail vs PLUG - The battle rages on
Well, it appears that Proton has made their decision and are blaming PLUG for this issue. >From there support team: *> Filip F.* (ProtonMail) > Jan 20, 2023, 16:26 GMT+1 > Hello Ben, > Thanks for the feedback. We apologize for the delayed response. > Yes, that's correct. Proton Mail does not allow third-party services to send messages on our behalf. > Third-party servers should not use any Proton Mail address as the "From Address" of an email. Emails sent this way would be dropped because they would use an incorrect From Address. > Thank you for your understanding. > Kind regards, > Filip F. > Customer Support > Proton Mail """ I still don't buy this, simply because if Proton wants to say that any message where there is a discrepancy between the sender domain and the "from" domain must be dropped, they should do so consistently. They let through everyone else so I still call BS on them. BUT, is PLUG in any way different from how other mailing lists operate? i.e. LKML or any of the lists used by various distros. If the PLUG lists are configured the way everyone does it then Proton is basically saying everyone except them is doing it wrong. -Ben On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 7:22 AM Kevin Williams wrote: > Ben, > > I started migrating from Gmail to ProtonMail a few years ago, bought a > paid plan, and parked my domain with them. > > I switched to Fastmail about four months ago, because proton mail does not > support Mutt, or any email client without their local decryption bridge > installed (no support for the BSDs). > > I still have a proton account, but without my domain there, and on the > free plan. It’s a recovery address in case anything happens with my domain. > > Kevin > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2023, at 6:57 PM, Ben Koenig wrote: > > Testing a working around. Father unit noticed some discrepencies with > protonmail interop on other mailman lists. > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > --- Original Message --- > > On Wednesday, January 18th, 2023 at 8:55 AM, Ben Koenig < > techkoe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > (responding from my gmail account now) > > > > > > So sure, there are technical nuances that are the underlying cause of > this > > > behavior. However, the whole point of a computer is consistent > execution of > > > a given policy. Regardless of protonmail's stance on this there are a > > > number of problems with the way they have communicated it, expectations > > > they have set, and even the technical side itself is in question. > > > > > > Mailing lists are a fact of how email is used. By configuring your > server > > > in a way that causes this situation you are effectively disabling > support > > > for things like Linux Kernel development (they work through the LKML). > > > Saying that your Secure Email Service can't be used to assist in the > > > development of one of the world's biggest Secure Operating Systems > hardly > > > seems like a reasonable business strategy. I'm not a dev or engineer, > but I > > > am an expert in Support and this is something that companies need to > stop > > > doing. I'm going through their support docs and have yet to find > anything > > > stating what I was just told. No FAQ's referencing this or any other > > > warnings that this is not supported. > > > > > > There is also the double standard that the UI literally knows how to > > > differentiate normal emails from list emails by displaying a message > that > > > says "This message is from a mailing list". Ths implies that protonmail > > > does in fact support interop with mailman, despite their support team's > > > claim that they do not. Their website (https://proton.me/mail) also > > > suggests that mailing lists can be used with their service. So why am > I now > > > being told that they don't support it? > > > > > > I pay protonmail SPECIFICALLY for the honesty and support that comes > with > > > being a paying customer. I don't complain too harshly about the dumb > shit > > > gmail does because it costs me $0 to have gmail. If you don't like what > > > google does - LEAVE. Not only am I considering cancelling my > subscription, > > > but I have half a mind to reach out to a lawyer and see if this can be > > > considered false advertising. I really don't care who is to blame for > this > > > shit, because upper managers at tech companies need to learn how to > keep > > > their entire organization synchronized. > > > > > > Selling access to a web service isn't just about how it works. It's > about > > > setting expectations and building trust. And in this case, a bunch of > > > scientists from CERN just abused my trust and I can either challenge > them > > > on a field of facts... or I can "lie back and take it". Since PLUG has > > > several other protonmail users, I suggest they contact support and ask > > > what's up. > > > > > > -Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 8:22 AM Jason Barbier ja...@corrupted.io > wrote: > > > > > > > I can tell you they are right and wrong, I get
Re: [PLUG] Bacula in Ubuntu
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023, Paul Heinlein wrote: On Thu, 19 Jan 2023, Paul Goins wrote: Seems like this was intentional due to a Debian bug at the time. Note this from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy/amd64/bacula: Removed from disk on 2022-07-23. Removal requested on 2021-12-08. Deleted on 2021-12-08 by Steve Langasek FTBFS, removed from Debian testing, blocks libssl transition; Debian bug #997139 Thank you for the lead on that. I will wander down the path when my schedule allows. I finally found a working bug report on the issue: * https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bacula/+bug/1973322 A thread message by Alex Murray dated yesterday (2023-01-19) says, FYI I have prepared a backport from the current version in kinetic to jammy - this is now sitting in the New queue - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy/+queue?queue_state=0_text=bacula - and needs assistance from the SRU team (or perhaps an AA?) to get it into jammy-proposed. So ... progress! -- Paul Heinlein heinl...@madboa.com 45°22'48" N, 122°35'36" W
Re: [PLUG] Bacula in Ubuntu
On Thu, 19 Jan 2023, Galen Seitz wrote: Purely out of curiosity, what kind of tapes drives are you using, and what type of interface is used to connect them? We're using a mix of LTO-6 and LTO-7 tapes in a Quantum library with four IBM Ultrium-TD7 drives. The drives are connected to the backup server via an Emulex fibre channel HBA. Does that answer your question? Yes, thanks. I have old DLT IV drives here, and it was tricky to keep them streaming. Getting an LTO-7 (300 MB/s raw, up to 750 MB/s compressed) seems like quite the feat. Stage it all to an SSD? We do spool to disk prior to writing to tape, but we use a ZFS-managed array of spinning platters rather than SSDs. Backup work typically involves a lot of sequential reading and writing, and traditional hard drives handle that work load just fine for our purposes. We do use SSDs to host the postgresql database Bacula uses to manage its metadata. -- Paul Heinlein heinl...@madboa.com 45°22'48" N, 122°35'36" W
