Re: [PLUG] Migrating content - MediaWiki or WordPress?

2023-03-08 Thread Paul Heinlein

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023, Keith Lofstrom wrote:

So - which format may be less prone to long term bit-rot and 
security fails, MediaWiki or WordPress?  What will be easier for a 
future disciple (if any) to host and expand on their own website?


This seems like asking which 1980 BBS system or Usenet UUCP mailing 
list is easiest to migrate to Twitter.


It is difficult to make predictions, especially about the future.


You're asking which publication software will last, which seems an odd 
question because yo want to know about keeping your content alive, not 
about keeping its current html presentation.


If I were asking, my question would concern which markup language will 
be most resistant to deprecation over the next several years. Were I 
betting, I'd say markdown currently has the inside track for longevity 
since it's github's current markup of choice -- and several other 
content generators can use it as well.


This assumes that you don't have dynamic content of a sort that 
requires an database that can be queried. If that's the case, I have 
no answer for you.


--
Paul Heinlein
heinl...@madboa.com
45°22'48" N, 122°35'36" W


Re: [PLUG] Venue for next month ...

2023-03-08 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 8 Mar 2023, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:


Ridership on all mass transit has fallen and is stagnant. The original
dream was they would get all of the middle and upper middle class people
riding it when the Freeways like I5 and US 26 were overcapacity. For 4
decades highway policy in PDX has been to encourage congestion in order to
force people out of cars into transportation Alternatives.


Ted,

In 1973 I was living in east central Illinois (Urbana) when the arab oil
embargo hit. The politicos in DC urged eveyone to use public transportation
which was readily available in the Boston-DC corridor but not in flyover
country. Urbana/Champaign had no bus service and few taxis. The railroad
passenger train stopped once per day (as it did in Pocatello, ID, too). We
had no alternative but drive in our POVs.


I recall in the 1990's literally going 5Mph all the way from Cornelius
Pass Road to downtown PDX at 5pm at night. No longer, it's been years
since it's been like that.


When I arrived in Portland in 1990 I lived in NE and commuted to an office
downtown. Buses took about 45 minutes in the morning and 1 hour or more in
the evening. There were no places to park near a MAX stop. It took me about
15 minutes (morning) and 30 minutes (evening) to drive the 3 or so miles.

I was told that Portland deliberately limited parking downtown to get people
to use MAX or buses, but they provided parking no closer than Gateway (as I
learned when I moved to Troutdale), and that lot was small and had high
vehicle damage incidents. I wrote to the city suggesting they put a parking
structure over I-84 at 42nd Ave which is a hub for bus and light rail. Never
received a response. The furthest eastern MAX terminus is about 3 miles from
home and it took more than 1 hour each way to commute to downtown so I soon
gave up on that.

Policies may be nice in theory but have unintended consequences.

Rich



Re: [PLUG] "Ancient" Verizon fiber Re: Verizon towers ...

2023-03-08 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 8 Mar 2023, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:


They use a box that has a chip in it where it converts the fax tones from
your fax machine to some protocol I forget the name of (fax over internet)
then when that protocol comes out into the PTSN it's converted back to a
fax.



Unfortunately your fax machine has to support this protocol. It's part of
all newer fax machines.


Ted,

Thanks very much for the explanation.

Regards,

Rich


Re: [PLUG] "Ancient" Verizon fiber Re: Verizon towers ...

2023-03-08 Thread Rich Shepard

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023, Russell Senior wrote:


I would not expect a fax to work on their voip product.


Yep. Mine's dead. Not sure what to do with it.


More tragic from my perspective, pulse dialing doesn't work.


Well, if it's dead it has no pulse.

Rich