Re: [pmwiki-users] Lost editing capabilities during Upgrade

2010-08-22 Thread Tegan Dowling
Make sure your .htaccess files are intact -- in place and uncorrupted.

Just to rule out the easy stuff...

Tegan

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Kevin Knuth drkn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I have two websites which have nearly identical installations (same skin but
 with different graphics):

 I just recently upgraded one of them from 2.2.8 version 2002008 to 2.2.17
 2002017
 but I have lost ALL editing capabilities.

 Here is the working 2.2.8 version
 http://cyberphysics.rit.albany.edu/index.php/Maintenance/UsingPmWiki

 and the broken 2.2.17 version
 http://knuthlab.rit.albany.edu/index.php/Maintenance/UsingPmWiki

 Note that the latter is *missing* the View Edit History Print Login links
 If I try to edit the page by writing the URL myself by adding ?action=edit

 http://knuthlab.rit.albany.edu/index.php/Maintenance/UsingPmWiki?action=edit
 I get a blank page in response

 It sounds like I missed upgrading something.
 Thanks for any help anyone can give me.



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Re: [pmwiki-users] What attachment operations do you want or need?

2010-05-04 Thread Tegan Dowling
 On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Eemeli Aro eem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings.

 I'm working on a bundle of recipes for better PmWiki attachment
 handling http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Attache.

snip

I'd like to hear what you want or need
 to do with PmWiki attachments that isn't possible yet, or is too
 difficult with current recipes.


I'd like fault-tolerant name conversions or context-sensitive warnings and
instructions. I'm thinking of the ways that naive editors get tripped up...

Maybe an option for case insensitive filename handling, so MyPic.JPG is
displayed when the editor keys Attach:mypic.jpg (or vice versa)?
And space/punctuation stripping, so that Attach:My Picture.jpg or
Attach:My-picture.jpg or My'picture.jpg will render MyPicture.jpg if it
exists?
And if the user uploads My Picture.JPG, or My.Picture.jpg, then
Attach:MyPicture.jpg will render it?
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Re: [pmwiki-users] What attachment operations do you want or need?

2010-05-04 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Tegan Dowling tmdowl...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Eemeli Aro eem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings.

 I'm working on a bundle of recipes for better PmWiki attachment
 handling http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Attache.

 snip

 I'd like to hear what you want or need
 to do with PmWiki attachments that isn't possible yet, or is too
 difficult with current recipes.


 I'd like fault-tolerant name conversions or context-sensitive warnings and
 instructions. I'm thinking of the ways that naive editors get tripped up...

 Maybe an option for case insensitive filename handling, so MyPic.JPG is
 displayed when the editor keys Attach:mypic.jpg (or vice versa)?
 And space/punctuation stripping, so that Attach:My Picture.jpg or
 Attach:My-picture.jpg or My'picture.jpg will render MyPicture.jpg if it
 exists?
 And if the user uploads My Picture.JPG, or My.Picture.jpg, then
 Attach:MyPicture.jpg will render it?


Ooh! Also! Bulk uploads.

Tegan
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Re: [pmwiki-users] Mark Things Done! - Released/Recipe Created

2010-03-30 Thread Tegan Dowling
Hi, Mark:

Congratulations on this recipe! I don't know if I'll use it myself, but it's
clearly well thought-out and friendly, so if I decide I want to explore such
a tool, I won't hesitate to take it for a spin.  Thanks for sharing it!

Tegan

On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Mark Bacas mba...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 Mark Things Done! is a GTD based system using PmWiki, Fox, and PowerTools.

 Well it's something that has evolved and that I've been working on for
 quite a while. I've finally created a cookbook recipe on PmWiki for
 it.

 If you are interested in such a system I'd appreciate any feedback.
 I'll do whatever I can to correct any issues as quickly as possible.

 You can find the recipe at:
 http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/MarkThingsDone

 A demo site is at: http://www.markthingsdone.com

 I'd like to thank Pm for creating a great wiki engine, Petko for
 maintaining it, Hans for creating Fox and PowerTools and answering
 lots of my questions, Peter for making PageListPlus and answering a
 lot of my questions, and several other people here and on PmWiki.org.
 Lots of information was gleaned from the various cookbook recipes and
 information posted on the PmWiki site.

 Now I'm off to mark a project done in my system: Post “Mark Things
 Done!” on PmWiki.

 Regards,

  - Mark

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Enable javascript in locked-down wiki?

2010-02-14 Thread Tegan Dowling
 On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Simon nzsk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just one page, or all.


Just one page


 If one page what I have done (based on original advice from PM) was to add
 the following to config.php

 Markup('includefile', 'directives',
 '/\\(:includefile\\s+([-\\w.]+)\\s*:\\)/e', Keep(implode('',
 file('/home/websitename/public_html/includefiles/$1';

 In your wiki page try

 (:includefile myfile.js:)


What would the content of myfile.js be? The code that makes up the widget,
or something else?


 where myfile.js is in the directory includefiles


Thanks, Simon!




  On 14 February 2010 14:36, Tegan Dowling tmdowl...@gmail.com wrote:

  For a school's site, I'd like embed this widget code in a page:

 script type=text/javascript src=
 http://widgets1.renlearn.com/content/widgets/readingactivity/readingactivitywidget.js;/scriptscriptif
 (READINGACTIVITYWIDGET) READINGACTIVITYWIDGET.renderWidget('
 http://widgets1.renlearn.com/', 'MCPSCX6');/scriptnoscriptEnable
 Javascript in your browser to view this content./noscript

 I do have html enabled on the site, and I added script and noscript to
 the list of html terms to enable -- in local\config.php I have:

 include_once($FarmD/cookbook/enablehtml.php);

 EnableHtml(a|select|option|form|input|iframe|img|small|object|param|embed|script|noscript);

 Having done that at least results in hiding the lines above when I add
 them to a page, but it doesn't suffice to display the widget.

 Can I add something else to the enablehtml stuff on config.php that will
 make this work?  I don't know from javascript, so I don't know if part of
 doing this right might be to put some of the widget code in the header of
 the skin.tmpl file -- but if so, which part, and what goes on the page
 itself?

 Thanks!

 Tegan


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[pmwiki-users] Enable javascript in locked-down wiki?

2010-02-13 Thread Tegan Dowling
For a school's site, I'd like embed this widget code in a page:

script type=text/javascript src=
http://widgets1.renlearn.com/content/widgets/readingactivity/readingactivitywidget.js;/scriptscriptif
(READINGACTIVITYWIDGET) READINGACTIVITYWIDGET.renderWidget('
http://widgets1.renlearn.com/', 'MCPSCX6');/scriptnoscriptEnable
Javascript in your browser to view this content./noscript

I do have html enabled on the site, and I added script and noscript to
the list of html terms to enable -- in local\config.php I have:

include_once($FarmD/cookbook/enablehtml.php);

EnableHtml(a|select|option|form|input|iframe|img|small|object|param|embed|script|noscript);

Having done that at least results in hiding the lines above when I add them
to a page, but it doesn't suffice to display the widget.

Can I add something else to the enablehtml stuff on config.php that will
make this work?  I don't know from javascript, so I don't know if part of
doing this right might be to put some of the widget code in the header of
the skin.tmpl file -- but if so, which part, and what goes on the page
itself?

Thanks!

Tegan
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Re: [pmwiki-users] Display PDF

2010-01-21 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:18 PM,  pmw...@911networks.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Is there a way of displaying an existing PDF? I ealier did a search
 on PmWiki.org, by the way it 11:20am PST and pmwiki.org is down, and
 could only found find how to output to PDF.

Another option: Upload to Scribd.com and embed html widget?

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Changing basic Skin

2010-01-06 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Patrick Provinciael
patrick.provinci...@gmail.com wrote:
 Problem has been solved. Apparently, you're not supposed to change the name
 of the file pmwiki.css

 I changed it because http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/Skins section How
 can I modify an existing skin? led me to believe you could.

 I quote: While the name of the skin.tmpl and skin.css files don't usually
 matter, the optional skin.php file MUST match the name of the skin. 

Hi, Patrick,

Here's my understanding of how the names work:
You can rename skin.tmpl to whatever you like -- the first .tmpl in
the directory is the one that gets used. Then there's a line near the
top of the html code in your skin.tmpl file where you specify which
skin.css file to use.

Anyone: is that right, wrong, incomplete?

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Re: [pmwiki-users] group headers not working in login page???

2009-12-31 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Tegan Dowling tmdowl...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:40 AM, dan mcmullen b...@bangzero.org wrote:
 wouldn't that mean figuring out how to embed the current special logic in
 the new login/attach/history pages?  from what i've seen of the code that
 might be tricky, since they are generated directly from raw html to some
 extent.  if i am missing your point Tegan please elaborate.

 On 12/28/2009 10:01 AM, Tegan Dowling wrote:

 thanks for the thoughts everyone.  i'm guessing at this point that these
 'special' pages just can't be styled in the way i am hoping for.

 Then make your own?  Create a custom.tmpl and add a new div before any
 of the other page-level divs, and use the wiki! code in it to have it
 populated by a new page (that Site.GlobalStyles one again, maybe)?

 So, have you tried, even just as a test, putting a sample of your
 style markup in SiteHeader? If that works, then just putting (:include
 Site.GlobalStyles:) in SiteHeader should work, provided that anything
 in Site.GlobalStyles that shouldn't be displayed in SiteHeader is
 nested in something like (:if ! name Site.GlobalStyles:) blah blah
 (:ifend:)

 If not, then I'll try to explain what I'm suggesting for adding a new
 page in a new div that will hold your settings, so you don't need to
 get them into the special pages.

Well!  Never mind me -- I have no clue how to fix this.  I just tried
a few tests. I put this:

%define=note font-style=italic color=green%

Note %note%test note%%

on a page of one of my wikis, and the Note test note displayed just
as you'd expect, with the second and third words italicized and green.
Then I took away the line %define=note font-style=italic color=green%
and put that in the wikigroup's GroupHeader, and the Note test note
still displayed as expected.

Next I deleted the group's GroupHeader page and put the line
%define=note font-style=italic color=green% in the Site.Header (my
skin's SiteHeader page). Now the Note test note line is no longer
formatted.

I finally tried adding %define=note font-style=italic color=green% to
a separate page Site.OverPage that I have displayed above the
Site.Header -- coded in the skin's .tmpl file as

div id=outsidetop
!--wiki:Site.OverPage--
/div

but the Note test note line still dispays unformatted.

Other rules that I have hidden in Site.OverPage and Site.Header do
work, rules like

(:if expr ! exists {*$Group}.SideMenu  ! exists {*$Group}.SideBar
:)(:noleft:)(:if expr ! exists {*$Group}.RightMenu  ! exists
{*$Group}.RightBar :)(:noright:)(:ifend:)

BUT these style definitions don't. Why?

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Re: [pmwiki-users] group headers not working in login page???

2009-12-30 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:40 AM, dan mcmullen b...@bangzero.org wrote:
 wouldn't that mean figuring out how to embed the current special logic in
 the new login/attach/history pages?  from what i've seen of the code that
 might be tricky, since they are generated directly from raw html to some
 extent.  if i am missing your point Tegan please elaborate.

 On 12/28/2009 10:01 AM, Tegan Dowling wrote:

 thanks for the thoughts everyone.  i'm guessing at this point that these
 'special' pages just can't be styled in the way i am hoping for.

 Then make your own?  Create a custom.tmpl and add a new div before any
 of the other page-level divs, and use the wiki! code in it to have it
 populated by a new page (that Site.GlobalStyles one again, maybe)?

So, have you tried, even just as a test, putting a sample of your
style markup in SiteHeader? If that works, then just putting (:include
Site.GlobalStyles:) in SiteHeader should work, provided that anything
in Site.GlobalStyles that shouldn't be displayed in SiteHeader is
nested in something like (:if ! name Site.GlobalStyles:) blah blah
(:ifend:)

If not, then I'll try to explain what I'm suggesting for adding a new
page in a new div that will hold your settings, so you don't need to
get them into the special pages.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] group headers not working in login page???

2009-12-28 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 12:21 AM, dan mcmullen b...@bangzero.org wrote:
 Tegan has the idea i am going for here.  so, the styles in AllGroupHeader
 are mostly those which effect the color scheme for the site.  i have some
 custom markup that defines a site color set.  then all the site styles, both
 css and wikistyles, can use meaningful color names instead of hex.  and this
 provides a single point in an easily modified page where a webmaster can
 tweak the site colors.

 the problem seems to be that the login, uploads and history pages do not use
 the normal page layout scheme.  so changing $GroupHeaderFmt does not seem to
 be effective, for css or wikistyles.  i will try Tegan's suggestion of
 putting styles in my skin's SiteHeader page.  but that seems awkward, and i
 think the SiteHeader page is normally processed after the main page content,
 so i'm uncertain if it would work for normal pages.

 thanks for the thoughts everyone.  i'm guessing at this point that these
 'special' pages just can't be styled in the way i am hoping for.

Then make your own?  Create a custom.tmpl and add a new div before any
of the other page-level divs, and use the wiki! code in it to have it
populated by a new page (that Site.GlobalStyles one again, maybe)?

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Re: [pmwiki-users] group headers not working in login page???

2009-12-27 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 12:13 AM, dan mcmullen b...@bangzero.org wrote:
 ps- looks like it's the same situation for the uploads page.

 On 12/26/09 7:01 PM, dan mcmullen wrote:
 hello all!

 i am using an AllGroupHeader page to define some global styles.  it
 seems that group headers are not normally in effect for some page
 actions - i.e. PageName?action=xxx.  for the search and edit actions i
 can put (:groupheader:) in the respective Site page and enable the
 global styles.  but this does not work in Site.AuthForm, so the global
 styles are missing on the login page.

 anyone know of a way to make this work?  i could just disable the site
 header and sidebar for the login page, which hides the problem.  but it
 would be nicer to present the login page in the same format as the rest
 of the site.

I like to set my sites up so that, as much as possible, things are
do-able from within the wiki -- so that users (appropriately
authorized/authenticated) can configure stuff without having access to
the server, SO I respect your effort to configure global styles from
within wiki pages that are globally displayed.

How about putting your settings (or including something like a
Site.GlobalStylesSettings page) in the site's header instead of its
AllGroupHeader? I don't use the default PmWiki skin, so I'm not
familiar with what elements have what actual names, but I mean the
page that produces the part of the skin that contains the site's logo
and main title.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Tags

2009-12-01 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Mark Trumpold mtrump...@cacegypt.org wrote:
 Hi Folks

 How can I place tags in my pages to help improve traffic to our websites

Mark: Do you by any chance mean keywords, for search-engine robots?

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Setting page privs from config.php

2009-10-02 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Hans desi...@softflow.co.uk wrote:
 Friday, October 2, 2009, 7:33:51 AM, Christian Bartolomaeus wrote:

 My suggestion was to override the global passwords (from config.php)
 in a page customization file (say Main.Test.php for page Main.Test).

 I think it is unwise to set any default password
 in a page or group customisation file, because
 a page protected in such a way will not be protected if it is for
 instance included by another page.
 To have proper protection for an individual page its
 password attributes need to be set in the page with action=attr,
 or for the group in the GroupAttributes page with action=attr.
 Do not use a page customization php file for this!

Whoa! This is a bit off-topic but, Hey!  This could come in really
handy.  There have been times when that's *just* what I wanted -- to
protect a page itself from being read (or edited) directly, but still
allow it to show up in an include. Good to keep in mind.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] double logon

2009-09-30 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Peter Bowers pbow...@pobox.com wrote:
 I have a site which I just recently converted to a farm, using the
 existing site as the main site and others referring into that
 location.

 I can't guarantee that the switch to the farm was what caused it
 because I use this site to mess around often and may have broken it
 before without noticing.

 But every time I try to log in (authuser) it makes me log in twice.
 Once I've logged in twice then everything is great.

 Any idea what could cause this?  (2.2.0)

Just for clarity, do you mean that as soon as you log in, it asks you
to log in again, or is it that you log in, then try to do something,
and then get asked to log in again?

(note that I absolutely do not have the solution to this, no matter
what the situation turns out to be.)

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Re: [pmwiki-users] double logon

2009-09-30 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Peter Bowers pbow...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Tegan Dowling tmdowl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just for clarity, do you mean that as soon as you log in, it asks you
 to log in again, or is it that you log in, then try to do something,
 and then get asked to log in again?

 The former -- as soon as I type username/password and submit the form
 it immediately comes back to ask me for another username/password.
 This is the case even if I'm on a page that doesn't require
 authorization and I have just used ?action=login.

Fwding to the list -- because, as I said, I absolutely do not have the
solution to this, no matter what the situation turns out to be.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Find out which passwords are set

2009-09-25 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Petko Yotov 5...@5ko.fr wrote:
 On Friday 25 September 2009 16:42:24 Mike wrote:
 Hello everyone,

 Hello!

 Now I have a particular page which I want to be available to all users
 of the @readers group, as well as to anyone who know one of four passwords.

 So I set the read attribute to
 @readers pw1 pw2 pw3 pw4

 Now unfortunately, if after 4 months I come back and forgot which
 passwords I distributed, I cannot determine this anymore. All I see is
 @readers *** *** *** ***.

 Would there be any way to find out in a way as convenient as possible,
 which passwords have been set for which page?

 No, the page does not store the real passwords, but one-way encoded hashes --
 it can verify that the user knows the real password, but cannot decode back
 the password from the hash.

 It's a security measure, to prevent an attacker who managed to get the disk
 files to learn your real passwords.

 In particular, the problem arises when I want to distribute one more
 password but maybe forget one of the older ones: it then becomes
 unusable which I did not want to achieve.

 If you disable a password because you don't remember it, the people who use it
 will call you, and you can fix it at that time. You can leave them a message
 not to panic, on your page [[Site.AuthForm]], it will appear on the login
 form.

Maybe something like what I do would help you.

To avoid this problem, and to make changing passwords easier, I often
add a page named Access to a restricted wiki-group. The exact rules,
privileges and wording of the page may vary depending on the
circumstances, but I usually edit-protect with @lock, so only an admin
can edit it, and if the group has multiple read-passwords, I may
read-protect the Access page with just the one that I consider
highest-ranking. I'll have on it:

The read password(s) for this page-group is/are

-'''pswd1 pswd2'''

The edit and upload password(s) for this page-group is/are

-'''pswd1 pswd2'''



To change passwords for the page-group, a user must be logged in with
the site's admin password.
(:if auth admin:)
# edit this page and modify either or both of the lists above (the
list must be a space-separated series of one-word passwords)
# save the edit
# select (highlight) the new list and copy it
# go to [[{$Group}.GroupAttributes?action=attr]] and paste the list
into the form field for the read, edit or upload attribute, as
appropriate
**note that edit-access does 'not' automatically confer read-
or upload-access -- each attribute must be modified individually
(:ifend:)

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Using pmwiki for School Websites

2009-09-18 Thread Tegan Dowling
http://www.milwcollegeprep.com/ is built with v2.1.26.  I don't have a
wikigroup for each teacher, though -- I couldn't convince them to use
it that way.

http://www.nonviolentworm.org has a bloggish part at
http://www.nonviolentworm.org/DiaryOfAWorm/HomePage that uses a bunch
of custom pieces -- but the new bloge recipe (I think it's called)
might be more fully developed.

My main concern here would be security -- once you start having
classrooms and instructors using the site, they are likely to want to
let their kids use it, too -- I would hope so, anyhow!  But that
probably means per-user authorization/authentication, with usernames
and individual passwords and preferably addons to automate that.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Adam Eyring adameyr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I've been roped as a volunteer into coming up with a revised website for my
 kid's school using pmwiki (the budget is too low for a site produced by a
 paid consultant). I've been using pmwiki for neighorhood and alumni groups.
 It's going to be more challenging to do the school because teachers would
 like to have their own password-protected pages for posting assignments (not
 grades because there is a separate system for that). The principal also
 would love to add notes now and then like a blog. I can see this being all
 possible, but I'd like to hear from others who have created school sites and
 associated issues.

 Thank you and I look forward to your response.
 Adam
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[pmwiki-users] Can I set default home page name to HomePage instead of {$Group}?

2009-09-12 Thread Tegan Dowling
If I create a link to the home page of a group that doesn't yet exist:
[[NewGroup/]] and click it, the wiki takes me to
NewGroup.NewGroup?action=edit.  I want it to take me to
NewGroup.HomePage?action=edit.

I can live with the Site.Site and SiteAdmin.SiteAdmin pages
functioning as the home pages for those default groups, but I want new
groups to have default home pages named HomePage, not named the same
as the group -- I find users confused by having the home page of a
group having the same name as the group itself.

I've looked in the documentation, of course, but if the answer is
there, I'm not finding it.

Thanks!

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Re: [pmwiki-users] PmWiki 2.2.3 released

2009-09-06 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Petko Yotov 5...@5ko.fr wrote:

 Hello. I have released pmwiki-2.2.3 stable today

 snip

 A new variable $EnableUploadGroupAuth was added; if set to 1, it allows
 password-protected uploads to be checked against the Group password. This
 variable works with $EnableDirectDownload set to 0.


How does this compare to, or alter, the previous method of
password-protecting uploads? Running 2.1.x, I've been using the method of
1) setting  $EnableDirectDownload to 0 in config.php, and
2) having uploads/.htaccess with:
Order Deny,Allow
Deny from all

Now I've upgraded to 2.2.5, and looking over all the 2.2.x changes, I see we
have http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/UploadVariables#EnableUploadGroupAuth,
which says: Set $EnableUploadGroupAuth = 1; to authenticate downloads with
the group password. This could be used together with $EnableDirectDownload =
0;.

I'm confused -- if I'm already setting $EnableDirectDownload to 0, what does
EnableUploadGroupAuth do?

Is the difference some change in the file uploads/.htaccess?

Instructions at http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/SecureAttachments don't
reflect any change, other than to add a See Also link to
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/UploadVariables#EnableUploadGroupAuth.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] PmWiki 2.2.3 released

2009-09-06 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Eemeli Aro eem...@gmail.com wrote:

 2009/9/6 Tegan Dowling tmdowl...@gmail.com:
  Now I've upgraded to 2.2.5, and looking over all the 2.2.x changes, I see
 we
  have
  http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/UploadVariables#EnableUploadGroupAuth,
  which says: Set $EnableUploadGroupAuth = 1; to authenticate downloads
 with
  the group password. This could be used together with
 $EnableDirectDownload =
  0;.
 
  I'm confused -- if I'm already setting $EnableDirectDownload to 0, what
 does
  EnableUploadGroupAuth do?

 With $EnableDirectDownload disabled, downloading an attachment
 requires 'read' permissions on the page to which the upload is
 attached. However, in the default case uploads are kept in per-group
 directories, which means that the same file is accessible from every
 page in a group. Previously, and without $EnableUploadGroupAuth, it
 would be possible that a page in a group has more lax read permissions
 than other pages, and an attachment apparently belonging to a
 restricted page would be accessible via this page. With
 $EnableUploadGroupAuth enabled, the download permissions are always
 checked instead from the GroupAttributes page, which is common to all
 files in the group.


So, then, would there be any reason to set $EnableUploadGroupAuth = 1
without also setting $EnableDirectDownload=0? And must uploads/.htaccess be
the same in any case?
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Re: [pmwiki-users] embed google form in page

2009-09-04 Thread Tegan Dowling
I just enable select html, either for the page(s) where the form will be
embedded, or for the whole wiki, depending on the security setup in place.

// Enable HTML
 include_once($FarmD/cookbook/enablehtml.php);
 EnableHtml(a|select|option|form|input|img|iframe);



On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Chris Lott ch...@chrislott.org wrote:

 Google spreadsheet forms produce an iframe based embed code... is
 there some way to use this code (or other method) to embed a google
 form into a wiki page? Here's a sample of the embed code as it is
 produce by google apps:

 iframe src=
 https://spreadsheets.google.com/a/alaska.edu/embeddedform?key=xxx;
 width=760 height=997 frameborder=0 marginheight=0
 marginwidth=0Loading.../iframe

 c
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[pmwiki-users] Restore little feature lost w 2.2.5?

2009-08-31 Thread Tegan Dowling
I've been hanging with 2.1.26 until now, because I knew the relative
variables were going to require a whole lot of tweaking of fancy-pants
wiki-code I've stuck all over the place.  I'm now in the middle of updating
a test site, and that aspect of things is going as expected -- I'm getting
there.

I knew changes would also show up in unexpected places (I've been expecting
the unexpected), and so far have been able to work out what's going on with
those. Here's one that I can't figure out, though:

I had my sites set up so that action=edit would always display the page
preview below the EditQuickReference.  This was accomplished by having this
in local\config.php:
## Show preview below all edits
   if ($action == 'edit') $_POST['preview'] = 1;

Now edit mode no longer displays the preview until I hit the preview button
(as in the default PmWiki configuration).  What change can I make to restore
this lost functionality?

Thanks!
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Re: [pmwiki-users] Restore little feature lost w 2.2.5?

2009-08-31 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Eemeli Aro eem...@gmail.com wrote:

 if ($action == 'edit') $_REQUEST['preview'] = 1;


Fantastic -- that did it -- thank you!
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Re: [pmwiki-users] Reducing PmWiki website mainteance

2009-08-16 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Simon nzsk...@gmail.com wrote:

 These is an ongoing background load of sandbox type changes to new pages in
 the Main group and at times to New groups.
 I'd like to see a discussion about, and to suggest, that,
 on PmWiki.org all Main pages (except sandbox), and new page creation,
 should be password protected (you know which one),
 and creation of new groups should similarly be password protected.


I'm a mere wikignome-type toiler in the garden; I did some work de-spamming
and de-sandboxing of the site for a while, but quit when I saw the incidents
becoming so frequent (in fact, I quit watching AllRecentChanges because of
it) that I became convinced an automated system was called for.

I've long admired Simon's tenacity in his efforts to keep the wiki clean; if
Simon says (heh) passwords are needed, then I believe passwords are needed.
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Re: [pmwiki-users] [pmwiki-devel] New Page Pulls Content From Template

2009-06-24 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Ryan O'Toole r...@mit.edu wrote:

 Hi PmWiki

 How can I setup my wiki so that any page created in a given group will be
 automagically populated with some default content, i.e. a set of headings
 which need to be consistent across pages in that group?

 I thought I'd seen this explained somewhere on the site, but I'm failing to
 find it.


Yup!  They're called Edit Templates, and introduced here:
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/EditVariables#EditTemplatesFmt
Let us know if you have trouble with it.
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Re: [pmwiki-users] Looking for suggestions for neighborhood site

2009-06-15 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 1:32 AM, kjettil kjet...@wanadoo.fr wrote:

 David Spitzley wrote:
  Ideally I want to allow separate logins per business or other
 organization, with separate pages for each, each of them individually
 stylable.  I'm half considering rolling my own, but I'd like hear any
 suggestions others may have of either specific configurations of pmwiki
 (I've done about 6 installs for different purposes, but nothing too
 different from a standard wiki), or of other software which would support
 such a project effectively.
 
 Snip All sites work like charm, except ...

 ... except  for sites with  novice users, where PmWiki's lack of
 WYSIWYG editing is an effective barrier to user participation. Most
 people simply don't want to take the time to learn wiki coding. And if
 they try, they often get things wrong, end up with an ugly looking page
 and never try again. In one case, a club site where club members were
 supposed to contribute text and images, we had to scrap the PmWiki site
 entirely and instead use WordPress. That reduced the number of degrees
 of freedom in web design but solved the problem with user participation.


That's my experience, too -- unless I have a good relationship with a very
capable representative of the users' group, and together we're prepared to
watch the site like hawks and jump in helpfully the moment a user has
trouble (*after* conducting group and one-on-one training sessions that
communicate, above all, the availability of help when it's needed), you'll
get users giving up in disgust.

Most of my wikis have very few users, and I work with them to get them
comfortable with the wiki markup.

You might look at something like a roll your own social network -- e.g.
ning.com.
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Re: [pmwiki-users] OT: Google Wave -- the new wiki (and everything else)

2009-05-31 Thread Tegan Dowling
I haven't finished watching all of it, but it's exciting.

As long as we have an OT thread, here's another, much briefer video about
using wikis and wiki philosophy:
http://www.ikiw.org/2009/05/26/ward-cunningham-explains-wiki-philosophy-with-furniture/

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:46 PM, DaveG pmw...@solidgone.com wrote:

 Looks very interesting, and a nice take on mashing together a number of
 concepts.

 http://wave.google.com/

 Video is long, but well worth it.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Import tables keeping alignment?

2009-05-23 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Simon nzsk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Try one of the table recipeshttp://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Category/Tables

 http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Category/Tablessay
 http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Text2Tbl
 http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Text2Tblor
 http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Tabulate


or http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/ExcelPaste
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Re: [pmwiki-users] Space in pagelist

2009-05-11 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Steven Benmosh word...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a wikifarm, with the main site being
 http://www.words2u.net/pmwiki/?n=Home.HomePage and a secondary wiki of
 recipes at http://www.words2u.net/recipes/index.php?n=Main.HomePage.

 I have two configuration files, the main at /pmwiki/local/config.php and
 the other at /recipes/config.php, and both have in them
 $SpaceWikiWords = 1;  Indeed the title of the page names in both wikis is
 spaced.

 However, I am finding that the behavior of pagelists is different. On
 http://www.words2u.net/pmwiki/?n=BusRoutes.HomePage the pagelist command
 is (:pagelist group=BusRoutes -Template list=normal count=7 order=-ctime:)
 and the links are spaced. In
 http://www.words2u.net/recipes/index.php?n=Recipes.Recipes, the pagelist
 command is (:pagelist group=Recipes list=normal -Template:) and the links
 are not with spaces.


Hi, Steven:  I don't know why the default pagelist format would give you
spaced output in one place, and un-spaced in another, but as a work-around,
you could use the fmt= part of
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/PageListsto choose a format to
specify. There are a bunch of pre-defined formats for
the pagelist output, and if you don't find the one you want, you can create
a Site.LocalTemplates page on your site and create your own format there.

Does that help?
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Re: [pmwiki-users] Duplicated '' in edited pages

2009-05-02 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Petko Yotov 5...@5ko.fr wrote:
 On Friday 01 May 2009 00:33:55 st...@projectexperts.com wrote:
 Whenever I edit a page that has an apostrophe mark, either because of
 bolding or because of a standalone apostrophe, it doubles it when it saves.
 If I do this 10 times, it doubles the number of apostrophes 10 times.

 I am using FixFlowSkin, and have also downloaded the current version of
 that skin. I also copied to a different site, with the same results.

 Hello.

 Does the problem happen with another skin? Like the default pmwiki skin?

 Do you have any local customizations? Recipes, new markup rules, $ROEPatterns
 or $ROSPatterns?

 Does anyone have any suggestions?

 Usually, you can disable your settings in config.php, one after another
 (temporarily place # at the beginning of the line). While a recipe is
 disabled, you edit a wiki page to see if the problem has gone. If yes, the
 disabled recipe was probably responsible.

Ben Stallings had an issue that might have been the same back in
December. He had three posts, with two replies from PM, on 12/19 and
12/20, in a thread apostrophes getting doubled, backslashes
stripped, which might be useful -- it was over my head, but had to do
with magic quotes and a host's php settings.

Hope that helps,

Tegan

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Re: [pmwiki-users] comment spam and blogs

2009-04-30 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Peter Bowers pbow...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Simon nzsk...@gmail.com wrote:
 I use a publicly accessible password,
 I don't even have to go as far as a captcha,
 it has stopped 100% of the spam,

 I use this as well and can concur that it stopped 100% of spammers.

 You can see http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/OpenPass to see how it
 is implemented.

 -Peter

Peter:  That looks like a cool recipe! Would it be easy to create a
version that would only work for specified wikigroup(s)?  On many of
my sites I have a site-wide, user password that I would NOT want
displayed in the manner of this recipe, but I could want a public
password on certain publicly-editable pages.

That is, as I read it, your recipe defaults to displaying a password,
except when over-ridden.  I'd like the opposite case, with defaults to
NOT displaying the password, except when desired.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] internal page

2009-04-21 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Xueli Wang w...@knmi.nl wrote:

 Hello pmwiki users:

 I have a question over making page in the pmwiki which can only viewed
 by certain group of people. We want to have some pages that internal for
 ourself. Is it possible to do that?
 If you have a hint please mail me.


In the Organizing and Protecting Pages section of
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/DocumentationIndex, follow the  link
Passwords. Other links to follow, for additional reading, might be the one
to Wiki groups, and in the Installation and mainentance section, the
link to read about Security.

Please let us know if those don't answer your questions, or if you'd like
some examples.
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[pmwiki-users] Meta Description -- top or bottom of page?

2009-04-21 Thread Tegan Dowling
I'm wondering if (:description your page's description goes here:) should be
at the top or bottom of a page?  If one page, including its
meta-description, is included in another, which description 'wins'?

I always have (:title page title goes here:) at the foot of my pages as a
consistent way of preventing the 'last title wins' issue with titles -- is
description similar?

Thanks!
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Re: [pmwiki-users] [listes] Images Not Displaying

2009-04-16 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Lane Lester lles...@info-fast.com wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Velosteph velost...@ferrosteph.net
 wrote:

 Read the documentation about attach files

 Thanks, Stephane, for the tips. I read and have used the upload/attach
 technique, but the docs also say:
 To place an image into a page, enter the address (url) of the image into the
 markup text. Any alternate text (used for tooltips and for browsers that do
 not display images) is placed in double quotes immediately following the
 image url. A caption can follow separated by a vertical bar (|), and may
 include simple formatting

 That's the technique we were trying to use. If it doesn't work (it didn't
 for us), then I'll tell the students they have to use the upload/attach
 approach. But if there's a way to make it work, I'd like to know what it is.

What was the URL?  Can you send it to us?

Or can you try putting it on http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Test/ImageTest ?

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[pmwiki-users] Petko's FixFilenames feature in Mini

2009-04-15 Thread Tegan Dowling
Last month, Petko added an option to his already-wonderful
image-gallery recipe Mini (http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Mini)
that will convert an uploaded file's 'extension to lowercase, spaces
to underscores _, and will strip all problematic characters.'  The
option is:

$Mini['FixFilenames'] = 1;

I'd like to be able to use such a setting for all uploads, regardless
of whether they're images for mini or not -- is this already enabled
in 2.2.1 (I'm running 2.1.26)?  In any case, is it possible to add
this to my 2.1.26?  This would be **such** a great help with many of
my sites' authors!

Thanks,

Tegan Dowling
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Re: [pmwiki-users] Older Versions

2009-04-14 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Chris Lott chris.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 Am I correct in assuming that the only way to view an old version of a
 page is to: go to the history, click restore, and then preview (or
 save and view) that version?

That's how I always do it -- I'm not aware of any alternative.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Changing login content

2009-04-13 Thread Tegan Dowling
There are at least a couple of ways to do this.  One would be to
create a special version of the skin for your Main/HomePage that
doesn't incorporate any of the Site-group or other Main-group pages,
then set read-access to Main/HomePage to @nopass.

Another way would be to create an all-html version of index.php, with
the material you want your visitors to see, just with normal html
markup.  Where I've done this, I've customized the root-level
.htaccess file
FROM:
RewriteEngine on
RewriteRule ^([A-Z].*) /pmwiki.php?n=$1 [L,qsappend]
RewriteRule ^$ /index.php [L,qsappend]
php_flag display_errors off

TO:
RewriteEngine on
RewriteRule ^([A-Z].*) /pmwiki.php?n=$1 [L,qsappend]
RewriteRule ^$ /index.php [L,qsappend]
php_flag display_errors off

(and I've also incorporated an html link somewhere to the site's
Main/HomePage for my own convenience.)

There are probably other approaches, as well.  Ask if yo need more information,

Tegan Dowling
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On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 11:13 PM, graeinler graein...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I have pmwiki password protected all pages and groups  by editing the
 config.php file. This works fine, however, I'm wanting to
 add in some content (preferrably html) to the login page so that non
 members of the site at least has some content to look over.

 I've tried looking over the website on how to do this but I haven't come
 around anything.

 If anyone can point me where to start or what I need specifically to
 change, that would be most appreciated.

 Thanks ahead.



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Re: [pmwiki-users] Changing login content

2009-04-13 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 11:13 PM, graeinler graein...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I have pmwiki password protected all pages and groups  by editing the
 config.php file. This works fine, however, I'm wanting to
 add in some content (preferrably html) to the login page so that non
 members of the site at least has some content to look over.

 I've tried looking over the website on how to do this but I haven't come
 around anything.

 If anyone can point me where to start or what I need specifically to
 change, that would be most appreciated.

Whoops!  Sorry for the top-post, before, and also for my sloppiness in
the before-and-after pictures of the .htaccess file.  Delete that
reply, please, and use this one:

There are at least a couple of ways to do this.  One would be to
create a special version of the skin for your Main/HomePage that
doesn't incorporate any of the Site-group or other Main-group pages,
then set read-access to Main/HomePage to @nopass.

Another way would be to create an all-html version of index.php, with
the material you want your visitors to see, just with normal html
markup.  Where I've done this, I've customized the root-level
.htaccess file
FROM:
RewriteEngine on
RewriteRule ^([A-Z].*) /index.php?n=$1 [L,qsappend]
RewriteRule ^$ /index.php [L,qsappend]
php_flag display_errors off

TO:
RewriteEngine on
RewriteRule ^([A-Z].*) /pmwiki.php?n=$1 [L,qsappend]
RewriteRule ^$ /index.php [L,qsappend]
php_flag display_errors off

(and I've also incorporated an html link somewhere to the site's
Main/HomePage for my own convenience.)

There are probably other approaches, as well.  Ask if you need more information,

Tegan Dowling
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Re: [pmwiki-users] Using PmWiki as an invisible wiki for a personal website

2009-03-03 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Jo Vermeulen jo.vermeu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello,
 I have been experimenting with a few wikis lately in order to use one as
 the backend for my personal website. I was partly motivated by an article
 about WikkaWiki [1] that described how it can be tuned to allow only the
 administrator to edit pages. Moreover, they also modify the skin to hide
 wiki actions and the typical wiki look and feel (see [2] for details). The
 reason I want to use a wiki as a backend for my website is that I want to
 focus on the content, and want to easily add a few things on my website or
 reorganize content.

 Although I did experiment a bit with WikkaWiki, I have also been looking
 into PmWiki because I like its features and customizability (amongst others
 flat files, the ability to upload, wiki trails and wiki groups).

 I was wondering how I can use PmWiki as an invisible wiki backend. I
 figured out how to allow only admins to edit pages, but I'm not sure how I
 can easily hide edit/view/history etc. actions. Is there any PHP variable
 that I can use in my template (I'm creating a custom skin) to hide the
 actions bar at the bottom of the page?

 Thanks in advance!

 [1] http://www.academicproductivity.com/2009/how-to-run-an-invisible-wiki/
 [2] http://docs.wikkawiki.org/InvisibleWiki


I do this for almost all my sites; I call them stealth wikis.  See
http://www.emergencydigital.com/Gallery

Tegan Dowling
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Re: [pmwiki-users] Fwd: Hosting Qs: reseller, wikifarm

2009-02-11 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Patrick R. Michaud pmich...@pobox.com wrote:
 I have and use reseller accounts on my VPS (provided through
 powervps.com) to set up multiple domains and wikis.  Maintaining
 a wiki farm in such an environment is fairly easy to do, and the
 individual accounts are able to manage their own mail settings,
 mailing lists, and other items through the cpanel interface.
 It works very well.

 That said, I've never actually done any invoicing or bookkeeping
 for these accounts, as I host them as a donation/courtesy to
 various organizations I'm involved with or feel like supporting.

 In 2006 I also wrote a longish message on this subject on
 another list [1], and what I wrote there continues to be
 true today -- it's important to find a service provider where
 their typical client fits your profile, because their support
 systems are then tuned to meeting your needs most effectively.
 For many years I would be at providers where the issues I had
 were not the common ones for the provider, and I had many
 frustrations and delays as a result.

 [1] http://www.ntlug.org/pipermail/discuss/Week-of-Mon-20060828/026653.html

 To answer some of the specifics of your message:

 Do reseller accounts typically include Virtual Private Server service,
 or not?  If not, that is something I should also look for, right?

 VPS and reseller accounts can be either separate or combined --
 i.e., one can have a VPS-only, reseller only, or VPS+reseller.
 I have the latter.  I decided to go with VPS because I wanted
 better ability to troubleshoot and tune things myself without
 having to go through support (and would probably choose this
 even if I didn't already know how to do that because I can always
 learn).

 In
 either case, I would need the host to provide support for hardware and
 LAMP system stuff, as I would have no clue how to administer my own
 environment.  How do I ask for this - what's the correct terminology?

 This is normally provided for you as part of any VPS or reseller
 package -- the provider takes care of the basic operating system
 and software updates, you're responsible only for any customizations
 you perform.

 AND I'd ideally like to be able to manage the client sites as fields
 in a wiki farm, so somehow I'd like to be able to have the PmWiki
 engine installed on a parent account that the client fields would take
 orders from.  Is this possible, in a reseller environment?

 It's certainly possible, but in this case you probably want to be
 sure to get a virtual private server.  With a reseller-only account
 you might not have sufficient access to be able to easily make
 the wikifarm installation available to your clients -- having a VPS
 means you almost certainly can do it.

 Another reason to favor having a VPS is that with reseller-only
 accounts there may be other resellers' clients sharing the
 server (virtual or otherwise) with your clients.  This can make
 things a bit more complicated if you ever want to upgrade
 your service level with a provider, or migrate to another
 provider.  Also, having your own VPS means you don't have to
 worry about other resellers' clients being able to
 (accidentally or maliciously) access your clients' data.


 If you decide to go with a VPS+reseller combination similar
 to what I have with pmwiki.org, I highly recommend PowerVPS.com .
 I've had very good experience with them, both in terms of
 long-term stability and in the responsiveness/quality of their
 support teams.  Unlike many providers, they _only_ offer VPS
 and dedicated hosting packages, and not individual site accounts.
 The advantage of this (and the primary advantage I was looking for)
 is that my support questions aren't buried in a flood of
 How do I change my password?  and  What is a domain?  types
 of questions that come from the people buying smaller packages
 available from other providers.  The potential disadvantage
 is that I don't know how much hand-holding they're able
 to provide for those types of questions if you're likely to
 have them.  However, it appears to me that the web interfaces
 they provide are such that even someone with limited LAMP
 experience would be able to function well in their vps.

 Hope this helps; if I can provide any more details or answer
 other questions I'll be glad to do so.

 Pm

Wow, that's great, and makes all kinds of sense.  I'm looking at and
impressed with PowerVPS, and right away see that I would need to
choose between cpanel and plesk.  I have the impression that cpanel is
a little friendlier to a less-knowledgeable user.  Is that correct,
do you think? If so, do you know if I would Iose functionality I need
for a wikifarm if I chose that?

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[pmwiki-users] Fwd: Hosting Qs: reseller, wikifarm

2009-02-10 Thread Tegan Dowling
Bumping, just in case anyone has successfully combined reseller
hosting with wikifarm setup?

-- Forwarded message --
From: Tegan Dowling tmdowl...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 9:16 AM
Subject: Hosting Qs: reseller, wikifarm
To: PmWiki Users pmwiki-users@pmichaud.com


Hey:

I'd like to figure out what features to look for in a host.
Recommendations of specific hosts would be terrific, but for a more
general, long-term approach it would be helpful to have lists of
must-haves, nice-to-haves, and mustn't-haves (lists that include basic
stuff that might seem obvious to many).

I'd like to set up a new hosting account for myself and my clients, so
a reseller account.  I'd like it to have features for invoicing
clients for hosting and wiki support that I provide, while allowing
clients to administer their own email (and possibly other features
like the plug-ins many hosts provide).  Any suggestions for features
to watch (out) for, there?

Do reseller accounts typically include Virtual Private Server service,
or not?  If not, that is something I should also look for, right?  In
either case, I would need the host to provide support for hardware and
LAMP system stuff, as I would have no clue how to administer my own
environment.  How do I ask for this - what's the correct terminology?

AND I'd ideally like to be able to manage the client sites as fields
in a wiki farm, so somehow I'd like to be able to have the PmWiki
engine installed on a parent account that the client fields would take
orders from.  Is this possible, in a reseller environment?

I'll add whatever comes out of this (if anything does) to a page on PmWiki.org.

Tegan Dowling
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Re: [pmwiki-users] Sidebar quit showing up for each group

2009-02-10 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Allyen Wilson awil...@allyenwilson.com wrote:
 I am using 2.2.0

 I have a group for each of my clients. Each client has a unique
 sidebar. Recently, the specific sidebar quit showing for the
 individual client. The main sidebar always shows.


What skin are you using? (reply to the list, not to me please)

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Sidebar quit showing up for each group

2009-02-10 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Allyen Wilson awil...@allyenwilson.com wrote:
 On Feb 10, 2009, at 12:08 PM, Tegan Dowling wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Allyen Wilson awil...@allyenwilson.com
  wrote:
 I am using 2.2.0

 I have a group for each of my clients. Each client has a unique
 sidebar. Recently, the specific sidebar quit showing for the
 individual client. The main sidebar always shows.


 What skin are you using? (reply to the list, not to me please)

 I am using skin abitmodern

 my site is eloquor.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php

Could it have to do with the changes that have been made to your Site/SideBar?

Look at
http://eloquor.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Site.SideBar?action=diff, or
http://eloquor.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Site.SideBar?action=diffsource=yminor=y

Did the different sidebar for each wikigroup work after the most
recent change there, on Jan 23?

(please don't top-post)

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Sidebar quit showing up for each group

2009-02-10 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Tegan Dowling tmdowl...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Allyen Wilson awil...@allyenwilson.com 
 wrote:
 On Feb 10, 2009, at 12:08 PM, Tegan Dowling wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Allyen Wilson awil...@allyenwilson.com
  wrote:
 I am using 2.2.0

 I have a group for each of my clients. Each client has a unique
 sidebar. Recently, the specific sidebar quit showing for the
 individual client. The main sidebar always shows.


 What skin are you using? (reply to the list, not to me please)

 I am using skin abitmodern

 my site is eloquor.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php

 Could it have to do with the changes that have been made to your Site/SideBar?

 Look at
 http://eloquor.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Site.SideBar?action=diff, or
 http://eloquor.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Site.SideBar?action=diffsource=yminor=y

 Did the different sidebar for each wikigroup work after the most
 recent change there, on Jan 23?

Oh, I notice here:
http://eloquor.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=VirtualTeam.RecentChanges that
you have a page VirtualTeam.Sidebar, and not VirtualTeam.SideBar
(bar, not Bar; Case Matters).

How long has this problem existed?  That change from SideBar to
Sidebar is pretty old, but it would create the problem you describe if
it happened on any of my wikis.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Feature request - selecting between multiple templates for new pages

2009-02-09 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Steven Benmosh word...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 Here is a feature that will help me with my web site (I will explain below
 why), and I wonder if it is already implemented or should be added to a
 feature list for the future.

 The feature: I would like to be able to choose between several (existing)
 templates when I create a new page in my wiki.

 Explanation:

 I started my wiki (link below) with the idea of documenting gps tracks and
 points of interest in Costa Rica. I created groups based on context. Tracks
 include bus routes, hikes and car rides. Points of interest are broken up
 into restaurants, sights, hotels, stores and POI which includes everything
 else (cemeteries, city parks, etc.)

 Each group has its own template page.

 Now I am finding that I am adding data from other locations - the US,
 Nicaragua, Panama, Israel, Europe - all grouped together under a single
 group 'Misc.' I have no way of having different templates based on the type
 of point in these countries, except to create a separate wiki for each one.
 So what I do right now is add the content under the main wiki, than manually
 copy the page to the Misc. group.

 I also have a user-edited group, but because it can only have one template,
 I limit it to points of interest.

 What I would like to have multiple templates, and be able to choose when I
 create a new page which one to use. This way, I can easily regroup the pages
 based on countries, without losing the ability to match the template to the
 page content.

Have you looked at

http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/NewGroupBox
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/NewPageBox
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/NewPageBoxPlus
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/NewPageForm

And the rules for defining your own templates:
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/EditTemplates

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[pmwiki-users] Flickr, Youtube, etc.

2009-02-08 Thread Tegan Dowling
I'd like to allow users of my sites to embed Flickr slideshows and
Youtube videos.  I've been doing this by enabling the requisite hmtl
code for individual, edit-protected pages, but now and then someone
wants these capabilities enabled globally on a site for which
edit-access has or will be broadly conferred.  I'm uncomfortable
enabling the html in such cases.  I find some recipe add-ins on
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Flash that ought to provide the
solution, but those addins are fragmented.

Could some php guru visit the various files in the section entitled
YouTube, Flickr Video, Google Video, and Vimeo (swf-sites.php,
swf-sites2.php, youtube2.php etc.), and see if they can be combined?

ALSO, can someone tell if swf-sites.php or swf-sites2.php should
enable a flickr slide-show, or only flickr video?

I CAN'T be alone in needing this kind of thing -- the future is in
this ability to display widgets and gadgets, but we need a way to do
it safely.  If I can do any of the work of organizing information to
make this comparison/combining work easier for a PHP do-er, I'd be
happy to try to help; as it is, I can only apologize for pointing out
a problem with no ability to offer assistance.


Tegan Dowling
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[pmwiki-users] Re-thinking Intro to markup pages

2009-02-08 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 3:04 PM,  john.ran...@affinity.co.nz wrote:
 FWIW, my view is that PmWiki's markup set now presents a very
 high barrier to entry for new users, especially those who are new
 to wiki markup.

 I do not have a good answer to this and your posts are convincing
 me that the pages in question are not fit for their intended purpose.
 Let me suggest an alternative for discussion. We now have the
 Creole markup standard which gives a core markup set that every
 wiki ought to offer as a minimum. AFAIK, the Creole set was a very
 carefully chosen balance between power and simplicity.

 My proposal is that an IntroductionToPmWIkiMarkup page presents
 PmWiki's markup rules for the Creole markup functions, in the
 order they are described in the Creole standard. See
 http://www.wikicreole.org/

 For avoidance of doubt: the Introduction page would contain
 *only* the Creole markup set, no matter how much we might
 want to include just one or two more features.

 I would be very happy to see the PmWiki documentation factored
 to use the Creole set as an introduction, with branches to more
 advanced markup features. This does not require PmWiki to adopt
 the Creole standard, just use the Creole thinking. I think I would
 also refactor EditQuickReference to present only the Creole markup
 set, with links to other markup features. Or at least separate the
 Creole set from anything else that may be on the quick reference
 page.

 JR

As a non-programming user who trains and supports other
non-programming users, I like John's thinking here.  For what that's
worth.  I've been thinking about looking at, with an eye to enabling,
the creole recipe if it looks like it's stable, and then training new
users to that -- this way at least whatever I taught them would be
supported elsewhere as well, making them more confident that they're
learning useful rules.  What's more, I'm hoping that we'll have a
wysiwyg interface for the creole set, some day.

SO having the introductory material begin with the creole set (even if
they aren't the creole rules) would be a great place to start my
trainees.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Flickr, Youtube, etc.

2009-02-08 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 2:30 PM, DaveG pmw...@solidgone.com wrote:


 Tegan Dowling wrote:

 As for Flickr,  Flickr provides the embed code for slideshows. Below
 is the code they provide for
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bobsyouruncle/sets/72157612582511784/show/

 When I enable the html that's used in this, then embed this on a wiki
 page, it works beautifully:

 object width=400 height=300
 param name=flashvars

 value=offsite=truelang=en-uspage_show_url=%2Fphotos%2Fbobsyouruncle%2Fsets%2F72157612582511784%2Fshow%2Fpage_show_back_url=%2Fphotos%2Fbobsyouruncle%2Fsets%2F72157612582511784%2Fset_id=72157612582511784jump_to=/param
 param name=movie
 value=http://www.flickr.com/apps/slideshow/show.swf?v=63961;/param
 param name=allowFullScreen value=true/param
 embed type=application/x-shockwave-flash
 src=http://www.flickr.com/apps/slideshow/show.swf?v=63961;
 allowFullScreen=true

 flashvars=offsite=truelang=en-uspage_show_url=%2Fphotos%2Fbobsyouruncle%2Fsets%2F72157612582511784%2Fshow%2Fpage_show_back_url=%2Fphotos%2Fbobsyouruncle%2Fsets%2F72157612582511784%2Fset_id=72157612582511784jump_to=
 width=400 height=300/embed/object

 This is the kind of format you need:
 http://www.flickr.com/slideShow/index.gne?user_id=10104...@n02set_id=72157612760405248

 However, it does look like Flickr require a slightly modified html markup to
 get things working, so it looks like using flash.php direct isn't going to
 work after all. You could use the format you have, but from reading, it
 looks like this might be slightly more reliable:
 iframe align=center
 src=http://www.flickr.com/slideShow/index.gne?user_id=10104...@n02set_id=72157612760405248
 frameBorder=0 width=500 scrolling=no height=500/iframe

 You could use one of the other alternate flash markups on the PmWiki page as
 a starting point to creating a Flickr slideshow cookbook, or simply add your
 new flash-type to swf-sites.php.

If I were to try to modify one of the existing recipes (which is just
remotely possible, depending on whether I can figure out which parts
do what, in the existing content), would swf-sites.php be the one to
start with, or swf-sites2.php?

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[pmwiki-users] Hosting Qs: reseller, wikifarm

2009-02-07 Thread Tegan Dowling
Hey:

I'd like to figure out what features to look for in a host.
Recommendations of specific hosts would be terrific, but for a more
general, long-term approach it would be helpful to have lists of
must-haves, nice-to-haves, and mustn't-haves (lists that include basic
stuff that might seem obvious to many).

I'd like to set up a new hosting account for myself and my clients, so
a reseller account.  I'd like it to have features for invoicing
clients for hosting and wiki support that I provide, while allowing
clients to administer their own email (and possibly other features
like the plug-ins many hosts provide).  Any suggestions for features
to watch (out) for, there?

Do reseller accounts typically include Virtual Private Server service,
or not?  If not, that is something I should also look for, right?  In
either case, I would need the host to provide support for hardware and
LAMP system stuff, as I would have no clue how to administer my own
environment.  How do I ask for this - what's the correct terminology?

AND I'd ideally like to be able to manage the client sites as fields
in a wiki farm, so somehow I'd like to be able to have the PmWiki
engine installed on a parent account that the client fields would take
orders from.  Is this possible, in a reseller environment?

I'll add whatever comes out of this (if anything does) to a page on PmWiki.org.

Tegan Dowling
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Re: [pmwiki-users] (:title:) of (:include:) included pages overrides page title

2009-02-03 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Hans desi...@softflow.co.uk wrote:
 Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 12:04:45 PM, Petko Yotov wrote:

 First title wins is in another PITS entry, 
 http://pmwiki.org/wiki/PITS/00266

 I have added a sample code to that page, so that the first title directive to
 override other title directives in the same page or in included pages. (Hans
 has provided another, but for pages on my home wiki with 2+ title directives,
 it seems not working in pagelists and [[Page|+]] links.)

 Petko - subsequent title markups render as 1 when I test your markup
 definition.
 I do not have that problem using my title markup definition. If it
 fails somehow please describe, I cannot see this (yet, but who knows).


 I also think that if we change to use the first title directive, there will
 be no need to disable directives from included pages.

 And if there are votes at the PITS:00266 entry, and if Pm doesn't mind, I am
 very much willing, and I will do it.

 Oh good! You got my vote. I can't remember if I ever added a vote to
 the PITS page.

If you're going to add a first title wins option, please do be sure
that users can retain the existing rules if they choose to - my users
have learned to respect a section at the foot of the page with:



(:comment NOTE please keep this comment and the code that follows
below all other content on the page -- add all add all new material
above this note.:)
(:title page title goes here:)



As all (:include :) statements are placed above those lines, the
intended title always wins.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] disallowing access to /uploads subdirectory

2009-01-22 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Jackie Silva
jlsi...@library.berkeley.edu wrote:
 Greetings PmWiki community,

 I am thinking about denying access to the /uploads directory via the
 httpd-conf file and adding the
 $EnableDirectDownload = 0 in each config.php file.

 I would like to know if anyone has had any difficulty implementing this.
 Did it break anything or cause problems/conflicts with other plug-ins?

 Or any words of wisdom/caution one would like to share-- was it
 successful? Happy with the results?

I've been doing this so long I'm not sure how things differ from
running the wikis without it, but my wikis work, so if this scheme was
responsible for any problems, they were problems I was able to
overcome.

URIs for images on my sites take the form
http://www.example.com/Site/HomePage?action=downloadupname=Something.jpg,
but that generally happens automatically, so I can grab an address
from my browser's address bar if I need it.

Read-protecting the site can require some fiddling to make images
visible for non-admin logins, but again, it works.

I do this because not to leaves uploads findable by search engines
even in otherwise read-protected wiki-groups, which I consider
completely unintuitive, and which I discovered the hard way when a
client found sensitive material showing up in searches -- very
embarrassing for me.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Self registration

2009-01-21 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Sameer Kumar sameerku...@gmail.com wrote:
 My suggestion is a profile page that the user can edit freely, and make
  typos, and not quite understand the markup (we all know users like
 that), and a separate page that the user can access only through a form
 that deals with authentication, etc. That protected page could be one
 per user, or one big one.

 I agree with Sandy's suggestion about keeping the profile
 pages separate from auth information, which requires a greater control.
 I think that Pmwiki should come with an entire authentication
 module/package (AuthUser + htpasswd Form + etc.) which would be disabled by
 default. When enabled, it must allow for self-authentication, with an
 optional email moderator and wait, as suggested by Sandy. It would be
 great to have a Userid, passwd and an email address associated with each
 user account so that if required, it would be possible to use authgroups
 to manage email notifications. This, in my opinion, would be an ideal setup.

I'm a friendly friend of this scheme, as Sandy and Sameer have
sketched it. I'd use it.  If it were in place I might be able to
create wikis that at present I defer to friends who do drupal.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Link to site...

2009-01-20 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:43 PM, DaveG pmw...@solidgone.com wrote:
 Okay, this should be easy, but I can't find it. I need to create a link
 to the base domain of my site, from within a wiki page. Something like:
   [[{$ScriptUrl} | Link to Root page]]

 Has the correct URL, but redirects to target=blank. I'm trying to avoid
 a URL with the Group/Page specifier -- simply the domain name.

I have this in my local.config -- does it do what you want?

//  use {$SiteDomain} to get the site's domain name stripped of the
leading www.
$FmtPV['$SiteDomain'] = ' . 
preg_replace('!^\\w+://(www\.)?!', '',
\$ScriptUrl) . ';

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[pmwiki-users] new host setup Qs

2009-01-16 Thread Tegan Dowling
Hi, all:

I'm trying out a new host, and trying to get my uninformed head around
the various settings and options in the basic installation
environment.  I (think I) know that I need to check the PHP support
option, but should I then check the (PHP 'safe_mode' on )
sub-option? Is safe mode useful/valuable/important? I seem to recall
questions to the user-list that revolved around issues with it, but I
don't know what it is or whether I ought to *try* to use it.

Thanks!

Tegan

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Re: [pmwiki-users] new host setup Qs

2009-01-16 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Patrick R. Michaud pmich...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 07:54:38AM -0600, Tegan Dowling wrote:
 I'm trying out a new host, and trying to get my uninformed head around
 the various settings and options in the basic installation
 environment.  I (think I) know that I need to check the PHP support
 option, but should I then check the (PHP 'safe_mode' on )
 sub-option? Is safe mode useful/valuable/important?

 I find safe mode to be far more trouble than it's worth,
 and despite its name, I don't think it makes anything
 truly safer.  Indeed, I think it serves to lull site
 administrators into believing that things are somehow
 safer when they really not.

Thank you to PM and Rogutės for your recommendations -- Safe Mode will
not be employed!

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Re: [pmwiki-users] pmwiki edit problem

2008-12-29 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:49 PM, pokhrel
pokh...@rainbow.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp wrote:
 Hello!

 Recently my pmwiki started showing an error message when I edit any pages. I
 haven't made any changes and it was all of a sudden.

 The error message looks like:

 PmWiki can't process your request

 Cannot write page to Main.Home (wiki.d/Main.Home)...changes not saved

 We are sorry for any inconvenience.

 When I press the save button it creates a new file in wiki.d named as
 file_name,new.

 The permissions are all fine, for eg. I did 'chmod 777 ' to the wiki.d
 directory, still can't edit anything……

 Any suggestions or idea to resolve this problem would be really appreciated.
 I tried googling but could not find any good solutions..


Has your host just changed versions of php, by any chance?

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Edit box does not appear

2008-12-26 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Arvind Agarwal arvind...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I am a new user to PmWiki. I installed PmWiki successfully and now when I
 click on to edit button to edit an existing page (or a new page after
 creating it through the browser), it asks me for the password and then just
 after I enter the paswword and hit enter, there appears a blank screen. I do
 not see the edit box that I will use to edit the page. I am not sure what
 the problem is. Can anyone help me this? Thanks!

 I changed the config.php to include the edit passwrod and site wide
 password.

Check your page Site/EditForm to make sure it's there, and that it
looks like the one on http://pmwiki.org/wiki/Site/EditForm.  Sometimes
pages/files in the directory wikilib.d fail to copy over or are
corrupted in the process.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] quick question

2008-12-12 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Brent Marshall brent.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 12/12/08, David Johnson david.john...@caldwellfunding.com wrote:

 Hey everyone.  How do you check the version of Pmwiki you have installed?
 This sounds like a very simple thing to me, but I still couldn't figure out
 how to do it.  Is there a way?

 The SiteAdmin/Status page displays this information.

So does the PmWiki/PmWiki page.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Recent Changes according to privileges

2008-11-23 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Jason Dudar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ... I don't want the user to be aware of any pages that he/she
 does not have privileges to read.


You might want to have a look at
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/PrivateGroups -- maybe your
answer's there, or you'll find material to help refine your
question/request.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] easy question to all

2008-10-15 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Vince Administration
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Oct 15, 2008, at 9:41 AM, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
 Note that the code I gave depends on the existence of a page called
 HomePage in whatever group the page being edited belongs to.  So,
 if you try to edit Group.ABC and Group.HomePage doesn't exist, then
 it'll
 look for the group password.

 Perhaps a better approach would be:

 $pagename = ResolvePageName($pagename);
 $rc = FmtPageName('$Group.HomePage', $pagename);
 if (!PageExists($pagename)  !PageExists($rc))
   $DefaultPasswords['edit'] = crypt('group_creation_password');

 This requires the group creation password if the page being edited
 doesn't exist *and* there's not a HomePage for the group.

 Pm
 Patrick,
 We don't use $Group.HomePage (except in Main). For some groups we
 have $Group.$Group, and for others $Group.Index.
 Now it would be easy to add to the conditional, and of course this is
 particular to each installation.  And to make it even worse, we have
 groups that have no HomePage.   Fortunately for us, creating
 unwanted groups is not a serious problem.
   Vince

Looking back at the original post in the thread, the instructions
refer to testing for a group's RecentChanges page, since that is the
one certain test for the existence of a group. What would the code
look like for that?

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Directing users to the wiki homepage

2008-10-02 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Christophe David
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there a way I can direct users who come to the wiki through the side door
 (i.e. a previously bookmarked page) to the wiki homepage and then perhaps
 allow them to get to the original target page?
 I'd be interested to hear if other wiki admins have solved this situation in
 other ways too .

 You could set a cookie on the home page, and test its presence from
 all other pages.  If not set, then redirect.

 But I would personally consider such a behavior as a major annoyance.

 A clearly visible note/link in the sidebar would probably be more user
 friendly...

I agree -- as a visitor, rather than be yanked from my intended
destination to the site's Main/HomePage, I'd prefer to see a section
in a header or sidebar that will display on all pages (or all pages to
which visitors might be jumping directly) that either provides the
news you want me to have OR provides a link to that material, possibly
with some indication of what the news is or how recently it's changed.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] linking an URL that contains the | value

2008-09-30 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Moni Kellermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I want to include a search result link on a page with the link being
 displayed as a short description.

 Unfortunately the search result link contains the value | which of
 course means if I use it with the [[url | url display]] format, the part
 of the link following the | is displayed, the link is cut off and so on.

According to the W3C Page of Special Character codes ISO standards
at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html-spec/html-spec_13.html, a vertical
bar character can be generated using

#124;
(restated, in case email protocols intrude, ampersand, hash, 124, semicolon)

try that?

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Re: [pmwiki-users] homepage for users

2008-09-25 Thread Tegan Dowling
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tegan Dowling
 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 3:14 PM
 To: pmwiki-users@pmichaud.com
 Subject: Re: [pmwiki-users] homepage for users

 On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:16 PM, David Johnson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey, everyone.

 I am setting up a pmwiki wiki for our business and I have LDAP
 authentication working.  Different departments are going to be using
 this wiki and I'm hoping to have them all using the same site, but
 obviously with different access. I don't want the Executive group changing 
 any pages
 by the IT group, for example.  Anyway, I have figured out permissions at
 least on a user basis and I want to make it so certain users or groups of 
 users
 get a different homepage when they enter the wiki.

 Is it possible for a certain user to have a homepage that is not the
 default homepage?  If so, how can I make this work for a few different groups
 of users?

 Are you familiar with the syntax for conditional stuff?  You might
 have something on Main/HomePage that says, in essence,

 If logged in w the rights to view (or edit) Group1.TestPage1
 Then (:redirect Group1.HomePage:)
 Else if logged in w the rights to view (or edit) Group2.TestPage2
 Else ...

 Might that work? You could even suppress the standard redirection
 messages. OR if there's a problem w having multiple redirections on
 one page, then maybe you could do something similar, but under tested
 conditions, (:include Group1.HomePage:)

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 2:29 PM, David Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That's a good idea with the conditional on the main homepage.  I am not
 that familiar with the syntax to do that, actually, so if anyone can
 show me how to do that, I would appreciate it.  Will php work somehow on
 an individual page?

Hmm.  Does your question Will php work somehow on an individual
page? mean that you thing I was talking about using PHP to do the
conditional stuff?  I wasn't -- I don't know enough PHP to figure out
how to do something like that -- I meant using PmWiki's own
conditional syntax.  What version of PmWiki are you using?  I run the
v2.1.26, so don't have/know all the rules for the current version's
conditionals -- I don't know the If...Else constructions as they
aren't enabled in the version I run.

But if it were one of mine, I'd try having Main/HomePage say the parts
between /// lines below:
/
(:if auth read Group1.AuthPage:)(:redirect Group1.HomePage:)
(:if auth read Group2.AuthPage:)(:redirect Group2.HomePage:)
(:ifend:)
Welcome!
///

Then I'd have Group1.AuthPage read-protected for my first group of
people, just as a way of establishing who they are, and have
Group2.AuthPage read-protected for my second group of people.

This is assuming you don't want to read-protect the entire wikigroups
for groups 1 and 2, just want to steer people to the right starting
places.  If you're prohibiting groups 1 and 2 from reading each
other's wikigroups altogether, then you don't need GroupN.AuthPage at
all, just use (:if auth read Group1.HomePage:), etc.

I'm sure someone else can provide something tighter and cleaner. For
one thing, some of this (:if auth read...) stuff may note necessary,
either -- there may be a less round-about way to test for the user's
membership in a target group.  Also note that the way I have it
assumes (:redirect:) statements can even *be* conditionally read -- it
may be that a (:redirect... is read regardless.  (If that's the case,
then I'd try using (:include Group1.HomePage:) instead).  AND also
note that the way I have it, you will want to have some heirarchy of
user-groups in mind, since someone whose login confers read-rights to
both groups will get redirected to (or see the included HomePage of,
depending on how redirect rules actually work) the first one, even if
he/she might prefer the second.

Alternative:  I have some sites where the Main/HomePage has a login
box on it, and then once someone has logged in, the page displays
Your password confers access to the following parts of the site:
followed by a pagelist that only displays links to HomePages of
wikigroups for which the user's password provides access.

Someone else should definitely chime in here, please, with suggestions
and alternatives.  There are almost certainly more elegant ways to do
this stuff with the PmWiki markup, and maybe there actually *is* a way
to do this kind of thing with PHP, for instance, which would surely be
more elegant.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Help needed after server change

2008-09-25 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Curtis, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My initial symptom was inability to edit files, with the pagename,new
 file created with valid data, but getting the pmwiki Cannot write page
 to ... message.  Well, I know the answer, just not how to fix it 
 SELinux is the culprit  I either have to run the system with it
 disabled or figure out what in pmwiki / apache to give enhanced
 permissions to in order to have it work. (httpd_unified is already on).
 If anyone is running SELinux and has hit this, advice would be
 appreciated so that I don't have to turn the whole thing off!

One of our sites had something that might have been similar -- I don't
recall the exact error message -- but anyway, while I never did figure
out what caused it, the problem cleared up once I removed all the
pagename,new files and the .flock file from wiki.d.

The pagename,new files did not contain the valid data in my case,
though -- they were all always zero size -- so maybe it wasn't the
same.

Just a datum for ya, in case it's a clue.

Tegan

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Re: [pmwiki-users] homepage for users

2008-09-24 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:16 PM, David Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey, everyone.



  I am setting up a pmwiki wiki for our business and I have LDAP
 authentication working.  Different departments are going to be using thios
 wiki and I'm hoping to have them all using the same site, but obviously with
 different access. I don't want the Executive group changing any pages by the
 IT group, for example.  Anyway, I have figured out permissions at least on a
 user basis and I want to make it so certain users or groups of users get a
 different homepage when they enter the wiki.

Are you familiar with the syntax for conditional stuff?  You might
have something on Main/HomePage that says, in essence,

If logged in w the rights to view (or edit) Group1.TestPage1
Then (:redirect Group1.HomePage:)
Else if logged in w the rights to view (or edit) Group2.TestPage2
Else ...

Might that work? You could even suppress the standard redirection
messages. OR if there's a problem w having multiple redirections on
one page, then maybe you could do something similar, but under tested
conditions, (:include Group1.HomePage:)


 Is it possible for a certain user to have a homepage that is not the default
 homepage?  If so, how can I make this work for a few different groups of
 users?



 One other question too.  I am, for some reason, needing to log in twice to
 read pages on the wiki.  When I first access the wiki, I need to login, it
 authenticates through LDAP and I'm good….for viewing the homepage….then,
 when I click another page, I need to log in again or I can't view it.  This
 is even true if I click on the link to the homepage I am presently viewing!
 That's weird.  I'm sure it's a simple thing but does anyone know why I might
 need to authenticate twice?

I've experienced something similar -- my hosting setup assumes all
hosted sites have the address syntax http://www.example.com; if one
logs into http://example.com (i.e. without the www), one sees the
behavior you've described -- could that explain it?

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Re: [pmwiki-users] hosting

2008-09-06 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Swift, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  Dear everyone,

 Most of you are aware that of the fact that I'm still in the process of
 establishing my website.

 So, I have come across 2 different companies that will offer hosting:

 1.  www.1and1.com (most of you vouched well for them) although I've
 e-mailed them last week and still haven't heard back from their sales team.

 2.  http://www.dreamhost.com/hosting.html which is currently offering a
 deal with unlimited bandwith and unlimited disk storage.  Does anyone have
 any experience with them?

 Just curious to see what everyone is using and maybe you might have some
 suggestions or 2.


Firstly, just making sure you're aware of the pages on PmWiki --
http://pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/WebHosts and
http://pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/PmwikiFriendlyHosting

Then there's a site devoted to reviews and discussion --
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/index.php

The discussion around the blog post at
http://decaflon.com/technology/notes/2482/ might be helpful, though the
discussion suffers from the same problem as the webhostingtalk.com site --
basically, what you get is more names to consider, and little help ruling
any of them out, since for every negative comment there are positives, about
pretty much any host.

One (at least) of the comments at that last link mentions mediatemple.  I
have friends who have just moved to that host and are delighted.

Hope some of that is somehow helpful - sorry to add positives and not
negatives, same as so many other sources will do. I'm still looking, too,
but will probably go with mediatemple just because my friends are happy
there. I've been unhappy with my present host's service, but am loathe to
mention them by name until I've moved away, lest they discover the mention
via a web-alert and decide to make life difficult(er) for me.  They're not a
big name, though, so you're unlikely to stumble into them.

Tegan
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Re: [pmwiki-users] ExcelPaste (Was: Tabular thought -- simplify conversion between markup styles of tables)

2008-08-27 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Peter Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Christian Ridderström
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I don't think anyone has written a recipe for converting an actual
  spreadsheet file to HTML within PmWiki
 
  Quite right.
  Yet, just to remember as we are on the theme, the Cookbook/ExcelPaste
  recipe works (almost) flawlessy in most cases.

 It occurs to me that a recipe or markup that linked to google
 documents might be an acceptable solution to this...

 I've used recipes or found markup that has linked into google calendar
 and google maps so surely the capability is there to share a
 spreadsheet document and view that from your site?

 Doing a little googling on the topic I found this which might be of
 interest:
 * http://robertfant.com/PMWiki/index.php?n=KSMath/EmbedGoogleDocs
 *
 http://robertfant.com/PMWiki/index.php?n=KSMath/EmbedGoogleDocs?action=source


Other products that might possibly be worth a look are editgrid, wikicalc,
Zoho spreadsheets
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Re: [pmwiki-users] Vertically centering text alongside images.

2008-08-27 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Vince Administration [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 The instructions for displaying images around text in
 http://www.pmwiki.org/PmWiki/Images explains almost everything about
 placing images in a page (well, almost everything that I need), but
 one simple? thing seems to elude me. I am using lfloat  and the
 captioning, etc, work fine, but I would like the text to the right of
 the image
 (the images are usually narrow and several lines long, the text not
 as long) to be vertically centered with the image. Can somebody
 point me to what I need to do?


I use tables.

Heheheheh.  Well?  Someone had to say it.

The tables method is forbidden by CSS purists.  I read everything I can find
about how to do this without tables, but every solution I've ever seen
required so many hacks and work-arounds for the different ways that
different browsers handle stuff that none of them ever seemed do-able to
me.  So I use tables.  If you find a non-table solution that does *not*
require a whole slew of hacks and work-arounds, just be sure to check it in
all the major browsers.
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Re: [pmwiki-users] pmWiki 2.1.27 - not able to view a site except the Homepage

2008-08-20 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Michael Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tegan Dowling schrieb:

 I've seen something that might be similar when the PmWiki install's
 root-level .htaccess file was missing or corrupted -- If you don't
 know how to check for that, post again -- let us know in any case!


 Hi,

 I don't know know exactly how to check that.
 These .htaccess files I can see:


 $ find ./pmwiki -name .htaccess
 ./pmwiki/cookbook/.htaccess
 ./pmwiki/docs/.htaccess
 ./pmwiki/local/.htaccess
 ./pmwiki/scripts/.htaccess


That may be the problem, then -- there should be ./pmwiki/.htaccess --
re-check the files you downloaded from PmWiki for the version that
should have come with the distribution.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] pmWiki 2.1.27 - not able to view a site except the Homepage

2008-08-20 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Michael Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tegan Dowling schrieb:

 On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Michael Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Tegan Dowling schrieb:


 I've seen something that might be similar when the PmWiki install's
 root-level .htaccess file was missing or corrupted -- If you don't
 know how to check for that, post again -- let us know in any case!



 Hi,

 I don't know know exactly how to check that.
 These .htaccess files I can see:


 $ find ./pmwiki -name .htaccess
 ./pmwiki/cookbook/.htaccess
 ./pmwiki/docs/.htaccess
 ./pmwiki/local/.htaccess
 ./pmwiki/scripts/.htaccess



 That may be the problem, then -- there should be ./pmwiki/.htaccess --
 re-check the files you downloaded from PmWiki for the version that
 should have come with the distribution.



 After downloading http://pmwiki.org/pub/pmwiki/pmwiki-latest.tgz I cannot
 see any .htaccess in ./pmwiki/

 # ls -a
 .  README.txt docs   pmwiki.php scripts
 .. cookbook   local  pubwikilib.d

 How does it has to look like? (so I can create it by hand)

Mine has this -- I don't know if it matches the distribution version
or not -- maybe someone else will confirm:

RewriteEngine on
RewriteRule ^([A-Z].*) /index.php?n=$1 [L,qsappend]
RewriteRule ^$ /index.php [L,qsappend]
php_flag display_errors off

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Re: [pmwiki-users] pmWiki 2.1.27 - not able to view a site except the Homepage

2008-08-19 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Michael Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I've just installed pmWiki 2.1.27 on my server (lighttpd 1.4.18 and
 php 5.2.5) and I have a weird behavior. (same behavior when I use the
 current beta version)

 I can call http://myserver/pmwiki/pmwiki.php and it shows the pmWiki
 page correctly. When I click on basic editing 
 (http://myserver/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=PmWiki.BasicEditing
 ) it shows the same page as http://myserver/pmwiki/pmwiki.php; does.

 Same on http://myserver/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=PmWiki.InitialSetupTasks
 and all other links.

 When I click on Edit the normal editing Page opens and lets me edit
 the site.
 When I click on Save my changes disappear and the editing page
 reopens.

 Seems that the parameters after http://myserver/pmwiki/pmwiki.php? are
 ignored.

 Has anybody an idea where the problem is?

I've seen something that might be similar when the PmWiki install's
root-level .htaccess file was missing or corrupted -- If you don't
know how to check for that, post again -- let us know in any case!

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Re: [pmwiki-users] non-standard characters when I use IncludeURL?

2008-08-08 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Chris Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tegan Dowling wrote:
  Hi list:
 
  I'm experimenting with using
  http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/IncludeUrl to display a client's
  blogger blog in a page on their wiki.  Funny formatting stuff happens
  that I think we can live with, except for the appearance of some
  non-standard characters among the text from the included blog.  At least
  in MSIE7 and Firefox 3.01, I see the character  (if it comes through
  email to you) between sentences in the text.
 
  You can see the experiment at
  http://www.wellspringinc.org/Site/TestBlogDisplay -- note the  between
  sentences of the Flood Relief Update blog entry.
 
  I have tried using charset=utf-8 in place of charset=iso-8859-1 in
  the skin's .tmpl file, but that's no help.  Can anyone suggest anything
  that might fix the problem?

 You need to include the xlpage-utf-8.php in your config.php

 include_once($FarmD/scripts/xlpage-utf-8.php);


That did it -- thanks, Chris!
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Re: [pmwiki-users] Import existing web pages

2008-08-07 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:32 AM, Kathryn Andersen 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 01:51:50PM +0100, Hans wrote:
  Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 1:16:35 PM, Jon Paris wrote:
 
   I can see that text files can be imported into PMwiki - but I can't
   find anything on importing existing web pages.  Can anybody point me
   in the right direction please.
 
  perhaps http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/IncludeUrl

 Or http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/IncludeUpload


Or maybe 
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/IncludeUploadEnableHTML?
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[pmwiki-users] non-standard characters when I use IncludeURL?

2008-08-07 Thread Tegan Dowling
Hi list:

I'm experimenting with using
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/IncludeUrlto display a client's
blogger blog in a page on their wiki.  Funny
formatting stuff happens that I think we can live with, except for the
appearance of some non-standard characters among the text from the included
blog.  At least in MSIE7 and Firefox 3.01, I see the character  (if it
comes through email to you) between sentences in the text.

You can see the experiment at
http://www.wellspringinc.org/Site/TestBlogDisplay -- note the  between
sentences of the Flood Relief Update blog entry.

I have tried using charset=utf-8 in place of charset=iso-8859-1 in the
skin's .tmpl file, but that's no help.  Can anyone suggest anything that
might fix the problem?

Thanks!

Tegan
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Re: [pmwiki-users] Import existing web pages

2008-08-07 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Kathryn Andersen 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 12:36:52PM -0500, Tegan Dowling wrote:
  On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:32 AM, Kathryn Andersen 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 01:51:50PM +0100, Hans wrote:
Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 1:16:35 PM, Jon Paris wrote:
   
 I can see that text files can be imported into PMwiki - but I can't
 find anything on importing existing web pages.  Can anybody point
 me
 in the right direction please.
   
perhaps http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/IncludeUrl
  
   Or http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/IncludeUpload
 
  Or maybe http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/
 http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/IncludeUploadEnableHTML?

 Do you mean
 http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/EnableHTML


Yup, that is what I meant.  (I hate when computers guess wrong when they try
to do stuff for me)  Thanks!
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[pmwiki-users] Universal Edit Button -- can we implement?

2008-06-30 Thread Tegan Dowling
Lookit:
http://universaleditbutton.org/Universal_Edit_Button

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Universal Edit Button -- can we implement?

2008-06-30 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Monday, June 30, 2008, 2:07:11 PM, Tegan Dowling wrote:

 Lookit:
 http://universaleditbutton.org/Universal_Edit_Button

 see
 http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/UniversalEditButton

Oh!  Shoot -- sorry Hans; I should have looked first.  I just got all
excited!  Thanks,

Tegan

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Re: [pmwiki-users] GCalendar includeurl

2008-05-14 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Dr Fred C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Update -- you can edit and add things to an included gCalendar pmwiki
 page if you've got permission.  Just click on the date/time and do your
 thing.  If you've got a gmail account, and have permission to edit the
 calendard, it seems you'll be automatically loaded into the edit page.
 Kind of slick... IMHO.

 It's basically as seamless as pmwiki calendar editing, except you've got
 the full power of a modern calendar that you can share across the web
 with others via various automated pathways.   Way cool.

The main reason *not* to use it, in my experience, would be in a wiki
with multiple potential editors, not all of whom are known at the time
of setup -- then simply being able to provide an edit password for a
wiki using pmcal would be less administrative overhead.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Group passwords

2008-05-12 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Henrik Bechmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When I login with a site-wide edit password, I am challenged for an
  additional *read* password for a group for which I have set a read password.

  I'm having a little trouble fathoming this. I thought that an edit
  password trumps a read password.

It doesn't.  Read and edit permissions are set separately, and edit
rights do not confer read rights, any more than read rights confer
edit rights.

If, in your config.php file, you have

$DefaultPasswords['edit'] = crypt('userpasswordhere');

Then in any wikigroup named, for example, ProtectedGroup, you need to
use ProtectedGroup.GroupAttributes?action=attr to:
Set new read password = userpasswordhere

OR use ProtectedGroup.GroupAttributes?action=attr to:
Set new read password = specialgrouppass userpasswordhere
Set new edit password = specialgrouppass userpasswordhere
(create a space-separated list of passwords for each attribute)

You cannot use ProtectedGroup.GroupAttributes?action=attr to:
Set new read password = @_site_edit

That doesn't work.  In discussion in this list-serv in 2006, PM said
that he never intended @_site_edit to be used on
GroupAttributes?action=attr.

(Everybody please VOTE on http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PITS/00836).

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Re: [pmwiki-users] InitialPasswords

2008-04-30 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Erik Haagensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How can I set a complete site back to Initial passwords as they are at
 installation time.
 That is: clear all special passwords related to pages, groups, etc. that
 have been added by different users.

On the server, delete all files in the wiki.d directory named *.GroupAttributes

If you have access, of course.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] caption + float markup

2008-04-29 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 5:16 PM, James Montaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all

  I am trying to figure out the wiki markup required in order to float a
  figure left, in a frame and with a caption. But the caption is wider
  than the figure so must be on two lines.
  I tried something like

  %lframe width=200px%Attach:Picture.jpg|A long caption that requires
  more than one line in order to fit under the image%%

  But that doesn't make the frame 200px wide, only the image.  The frame
  fills out to allow the caption to be a single line.

Place a manual line-break in the caption?

%lframe width=200px%Attach:Picture.jpg|A long caption that requires
more than \\
one line in order to fit under the image%%

(N.B., it's critical that the back-slashes not be followed by anything
other than the line-break; if they're followed by a space, then they
just function as backslashes, and not as formatting)

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Best way for meta tags

2008-04-09 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:12 AM, Hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tuesday, April 8, 2008, 5:05:46 AM, Steven Benmosh wrote:

   Is the header the right/best place for meta tags?

  Use the GroupHeader page for each group. The content of GroupHeader
  (and GroupFooter) are included in each page, so the meta tages are
  part of each page's HTMl header output.

What would then happen if both a page and its group's GroupHeader have
meta information such as Description -- do they conflict, or combine,
or does one win based on the order in which they appear?

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Superimposing text on an image?

2008-04-04 Thread Tegan Dowling
There is this page:
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/BackgroundImages -- it might could
use a little work, though.

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 7:11 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

  Does anyone know of a recipe that let's you place text on top of an image
 on a wiki page?

  Basically I have an image that I embed in a wiki page, and I would like to
 add some explaining text to the image, ideally without modifying the image
 file. (It's ok to modify the image file though)

  /Christian

  --
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 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
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Re: [pmwiki-users] embedding iframe

2008-04-04 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 2:50 PM, James Montaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all

 Is it possible to embed a google map in a pmwiki page? I don't want it to be
 editable, which is I guess the main purpose of the Google API, this is just
 a MyMap I made in google maps, and the html code google gives begins
 iframe width=425  etc etc.

Absolutely!

1) you have to enable html for the page on which the map is to appear.
 You can do this by adding enabling code to the local\config.php file,
or by creating a local\Groupname.Pagename.php file with the enabling
code.  Be careful with this: you do not want to enable html generally
on a site or pages of a site that allow public editing, as this is a
serious security breach.  See
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/EnableHTML

2) if the html code google gives includes amp; in place of
-signs, remove the amp; bits.

Holler if you need more help with it!

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Re: [pmwiki-users] ?action=edit not working anymore

2008-03-30 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Fernando Pont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi! I really need some help here.. I' ve been using PmWiki as a website for
 a NGO for about 2 years now. All of a sudden I had a problem with
 permissions (they were changed supposedly by some script run by the server).
 I solved it by changing back the permissions on wiki.d and wikilib.d (744),
 but since then, I can´t get to edit any page.
  When I add ?action=edit to the url, I just get the part that I need to
 edit, blank...
 You can take a look at the site (it's in spanish) at
 http://www.capituloinfancia.periodismosocial.net/PS/pmwiki.php/Main/RightBar?action=edit
  I included the edit commend to show what I mean...

My first thought was to check for whether Site/EditForm might have
been deleted -- but it's there...

My sites all have permissions for wiki.d set to 777.  Try that and see
if that resolves things?

Please reply to the list, as I'm barely literate in this stuff -- but
hoping this might help.

Tegan

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Re: [pmwiki-users] login visible, not edit etc

2008-03-26 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:56 AM, James Montaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It works!
 I edited Site.PageActions as suggested
 so I get the login menu within the Site group.

 However in the Main group I still get the usual edit/view/etc menu.
 How do I implement this globally?
 (And there is no Main.PageActions page, so Main..HomePage must be picking up
 the edit menu from somewhere else.)

What skin are you using -- the default?

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Re: [pmwiki-users] login visible, not edit etc

2008-03-26 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:21 AM, James Montaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At the moment I'm using the default skin. But I might change that.  Does it
 matter? I thought the skin was just the look and feel.

In the default PmWiki skin template (in pub\skins\pmwiki\pmwiki.tmpl),
there's a section that looks like this:

!--PageActionFmt--
div id='wikicmds'ulli class='browse'  a accesskey=''
rel='nofollow'  class='selflink'
href='http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Main/HomePage'View/a
/lili class='edit'  a accesskey='e'  rel='nofollow'
class='wikilink'
href='http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Main/HomePage?action=edit'Edit/a
/lili class='diff'   a accesskey='h'  rel='nofollow'
class='wikilink'
href='http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Main/HomePage?action=diff'History/a
/lili class='upload'a accesskey='ak_attach'  rel='nofollow'
class='wikilink'
href='http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Main/HomePage?action=upload'Attach/a
/lili class='print' a accesskey=''  rel='nofollow'
class='wikilink'
href='http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Main/HomePage?action=print'Print/a

/li/ul
/div

This is where the page actions displayed in the upper-right of the
default skin come from -- the links are 'hard-coded' into the skin
here.  There's a nifty, nifty feature that lets you suppress display
of this section, conditionally, from within the wiki (!):  That first
bit, !--PageActionFmt-- is in the form of an html comment, but it's
also a section identifier used by the pmwiki scripts.

To suppress display of that section unless the user is logged in with
edit rights, have this somewhere on your page (or on your
GroupHeader):

(:if ! auth edit:)(:noaction:)(:ifend:)

Some skins have the identified sections that display Site pages,
instead of hard-coding features such as the header, this actions area,
etc. -- when that 's the case, you can modify how such  section of the
page looks and acts by editing the page, as well as by using
(:noheader:), (:noaction:), (:noleft:), etc.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] login visible, not edit etc

2008-03-26 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Patrick R. Michaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:27:46AM -0500, Tegan Dowling wrote:
   On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:21 AM, James Montaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At the moment I'm using the default skin. But I might change that.  Does 
 it
matter? I thought the skin was just the look and feel.
  
   In the default PmWiki skin template (in pub\skins\pmwiki\pmwiki.tmpl),
   there's a section that looks like this:
  
   !--PageActionFmt--
   div id='wikicmds'ulli class='browse'  a accesskey=''
   rel='nofollow'  class='selflink'
   href='http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Main/HomePage'View/a
   /lili class='edit'  a accesskey='e'  rel='nofollow'
   class='wikilink'
   href='http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Main/HomePage?action=edit'Edit/a
   /li
   [...]

  This is where the page actions displayed in the upper-right of the
   default skin come from -- the links are 'hard-coded' into the skin
   here.

  That may have been true for very old versions of PmWiki, but
  for a long time now (since at least 2.0.0) the default template
  uses $Group.PageActions or $SiteGroup.PageActions for this
  section and not a hardcoded list.


Urgh.  Sorry -- this is why I first said I'd wait for someone with
more current familiarity to address the question -- as I said, my own
installation is heavily customized, and I haven't looked the the
default skin for a long time.  Sorry again.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] login visible, not edit etc

2008-03-25 Thread Tegan Dowling
James:  If no one else answers you tomorrow, I'll take a shot at it.
There are at least a couple of ways to do what you're asking about,
and my own way is so thoroughly customized that while I do understand
the principles, some of the details are unfamiliar -- so I'm hoping
that someone more familiar with the default skin and its components
will be able to answer you easily.  But, again, if none of them does,
I'll dig around enough to put something together

It really isn't hard, and it really is kind of cool - this way, a site
doesn't appear to be a wiki until one has logged in.  Most of the
sites I've done have used this -- they're not proper wikis at all.
 I'm not at all ashamed of using this fabulous tool to do something it
wasn't designed for, and neither should you be.  AND of course, every
time I provide a small business or non-profit with an easy-to-update
website, I feel as if I've opened the door, just a crack, to the wiki
way, and dare to hope someone in the org. will start using it to do
what it was designed for (over three dozen wikis into it, none of them
has, but one lives in hope).

Tegan

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 5:26 PM, James Montaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all
 I have seen on a couple of pmwiki sites that there is no edit/view/etc menu,
 just a simple login link.  Presumably the other links appear after logging
 in.
 How is this implemented?

 Thanks
  James


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Re: [pmwiki-users] page lists for dynamic menus

2008-03-21 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Friday, March 21, 2008, 12:53:33 PM, Marco Ferretti wrote:


  What I would like now is that the order of the groups stays the
   default one ( alphabetical ) and the current group is exploded

  (:pagelist fmt=#explgroup:)


  [[#explgroup]]
  (:template first {=$Group}:)
  * [[{=$Group}/]]
  (:template each:)
  (:if equal {$Group} {=$Group}:)
  ** [[{=$Group}/{=$Namespaced}]]
  (:if:)
  [[#explgroupend]]


Optional alternatives/enhancements:

__Control which pages in each group are listed__

You could tag each desired page with a hidden term that will never
otherwise appear, like (:comment dosidelist:)
and then your pagelist could be (:pagelist fmt=#explgroup dosidelist:)

OR tag each page that you *don't* want listed with a hidden term, and
exclude those: (:comment donotsidelist:) and (:pagelist fmt=#explgroup
-donotsidelist:)

OR create a custom list in local\config.php, and specify that in your pagelist:

I have this in all of my config.php files:  

$SearchPatterns['forum'][] = 
'!\.(All)?Recent(Changes|Uploads|Comments)$!';
$SearchPatterns['forum'][] =
'!\.Group(Print)?(Header|Footer|Attributes|Path)$!';
$SearchPatterns['forum'][] =
'!\.(Left|Right|Side|Quick)(Bar|Menu|Note|Notes|Tools)$!';
$SearchPatterns['forum'][] = '!\.Template$!';
$SearchPatterns['forum'][] = '!\.HomePage$!';

This prevents the hardware pages of a wikigroup from being listed --
as would be appropriate if the group were a forum, and each page a
topic -- so
(:pagelist fmt=#explgroup list=forum:) would exclude the group's
RecentChanges, RecentUploads, RecentComments, GroupHeader,
GroupFooter, GroupAttributes, GroupPath, LeftBar (or RightBar or
SideBar or QuickBar), Left(or Right, Side, Quick)Menu, LeftNote,
LeftNotes, LeftTools, Template, or HomePage.

You could even have a different list used, depending on the
authorization level of the viewer:

(:if auth admin:)(:pagelist fmt=#explgroup list=all:)(:if ! auth
admin:)(:pagelist fmt=#explgroup list=forum:)

__Minor alternative__

[[#explgroup]]
(:template first {=$Group}:)
* [[{=$Group}/]]
(:template each:)
(:if equal {$Group} {=$Group}:)
** [[{=$Group}/{=$Titlespaced}]]
(:if:)
[[#explgroupend]]

The difference is that I used ** [[{=$Group}/{=$Titlespaced}}]], as
I'd rather see page titles on that sidebar than page names.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Fixflow skin left and right whitespace

2008-03-20 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thursday, March 20, 2008, 3:51:40 PM, David Sovinski wrote:

   You were right. That is almost what I'm looking for. I just need to
   figure out (as you said) how to center it

  try

  body { text-align:center; }
  #wrapper { text-align:left; }

If that doesn't do it, try

body { text-align:center; }
#wrapper {
text-align:left;
display: table; 
margin-left: auto;
margin-right: auto;
width: 990px; /*(my preference, for the second-lowest resolution
anyone ever uses on a monitor, 1024px wide)*/
}

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Request to extend Wiki Styles colors

2008-03-15 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  See also working here as a chart for wiki style colors:
  http://softflow.org/design/Test/MoreWikiStyleColors

Based on what I see on
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/WikiStyleColors, I put this in
local/config.php:

$WikiStyle['mybluexlt']['color']='#d3ebf1';
$WikiStyle['mybluelt']['color']='#b2dae6';
$WikiStyle['mybluem']['color']='#3d809b';
$WikiStyle['myblued']['color']='#2b596a';

but in my wiki, neither of the following renders in my custom color:

%color=myblued%This text should be my dark blue, myblued%%
%bgcolor=myblued white% this text should be white on my dark blue, myblued%%

What am I failing to understand?  Do I need something before or after
the config.php material to make it work?

Thanks!

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Tool tips not working for me (Also Re: Title Attribute?)

2008-03-14 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 3:30 AM, Andrew Standfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On the philosophical side, by setting both Summary and Description for a
 page, you may find greater flexibility in the future. For instance, the
 Description could be used a as very short description of the page (eg.
 Examining Achaeopteryx, but Summary would literally summarize the content
 of the page (eg. Although Achaeopteryx had both teeth and flight feathers,
 it considered a primitive bird.)

Also, doesn't the (:description ... :)  directive render formally
html-recognized bot-stuff thingers? (not to get too technical here)

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[pmwiki-users] spamming pmwiki.org pages again

2008-03-14 Thread Tegan Dowling
There appears to be a 'battle of the bots' (these are the really
polite, apologetic ones) being waged over the page
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/NotSoSimpleSkin

It's more than a human can do to keep it right.  Could it be passworded?

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Strange rendering behavior of vspace

2008-03-09 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 10:12 AM, DaveG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  David Spitzley wrote:
   I've discovered a weird rendering problem:  in Firefox a [[]] pushes 
 everything after it below the bottom of the content in my SideBar, but in IE 
 the [[]] is seamless.  You can see the effect at 
 http://www.davidaspitzley.org/PotatoPatch/index.php?n=Main.WikiSandbox .  Any 
 suggestions as to what's going on here?  Is this limited to the Marinee skin, 
 which is the one I'm using?  I wanted to use [[]] to interrupt float 
 behavior, but this makes that difficult at best.
  I suspect this problem is related to a bug already listed for the
  Marinee skin. I'll add information relating to this problem as well.

This was also an issue with the BeeblebroxNetGila skin --
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/BeeblebroxNetGila.  That skin
appears to have been superseded by the Maguila skin --
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/MaguilaSkin.  Maybe the latter is
free of this defect.  If so, maybe the means of repairing it can be
adapted to your skin.

When I used BeeblebroxNetGila, I added a table structure in the body
of the site (below the SiteHeader area and above the SiteFooter) and
added vertical-align=top to the markup for selected cells to remedy
The Big Gap.

hth,

Tegan

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Re: [pmwiki-users] How to report bugs

2008-03-06 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tegan

 this is an interesting point.
 I feel the questions page is more accessible than searching the mailing
 list,

It is, or would be if the questions posed there were consistently
reviewed and responded to.  You are one of the few knowlegable people
who seems to look at it and post to it regularly.  Many of the
questions there really need responses from a community of users, which
the list provides.  Many of the questions there have had no response
from anyone at all.


 On 02/03/2008, Tegan Dowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 5:36 AM, Hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Thursday, February 28, 2008, 10:07:02 PM, Simon wrote:
 I've drafted a page
 http://pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/HowToReportBugs
 in an attempt to assist everyone who seeks help from the mailing
 lists
  
I read through the page and like to raise a few points:
  
* For people seeking help I find the page both encouraging, as it
gives lots of pointers on what to try or where to look, and
discouraging, as it mentions after a list of 13 check points:
  
  Having done all of this, and being none the wiser about your issue
  (although probably somewhat wiser about PmWiki) you could
  
   * leave a query on the questions page
   * post a message the the PmWiki mailing lists
 
 
  Also, I wonder about having the questions page listed before the
  mailing lists.  From what I've seen, the questions page is a pretty
  poor way to get help.  I'd actually suggest removing it entirely.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] How to report bugs

2008-03-06 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:18 PM, H. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 7:32 AM, Tegan Dowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tegan

 this is an interesting point.
 I feel the questions page is more accessible than searching the mailing
 list,
  
It is, or would be if the questions posed there were consistently
reviewed and responded to.  You are one of the few knowlegable people
who seems to look at it and post to it regularly.  Many of the
questions there really need responses from a community of users, which
the list provides.  Many of the questions there have had no response
from anyone at all.

  FWIW, here's the origin and purpose of the Questions page:

  The Questions page was originally created as sort of an
  infrequently-asked questions page during a documentation cleanup
  effort that happened prior to a major release of PmWiki.  At the time
  the pages of the PmWiki group, the FAQ page in particular, had a lot
  of questions that didn't belong wherever they were.  Most of the
  questions moved to the page were previously unnoticed and unanswered.

  I agree that the Questions page is largely being ignored -- except by
  a few stand-up folks like Tegan Downling (Thanks!)  -- but removing
  the Questions page will not necessarily reduce the number of
  unanswered questions on pmwiki.org.

Actually, I was just recommending that reference to it be removed from
the how to get help or how to report a bug documentation, NOT that
the page be removed from the wiki.  It does serve a purpose (some
new-comers to PmWiki might be reluctant to join the list, and
shouldn't have to join just to get help), but I wish that we, as a
community, could severally do a better job of fielding those
questions, since as things are, those same new-comers are seeing the
designated where to go on the site for help page full of
un-replied-to cries for help.

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Re: [pmwiki-users] An action to e-mail the page to friends, possible?

2008-03-01 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 5:40 AM, imoc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've searched here and cookbook, and can't find any solution.
  I want to have a link (or action) allowing readers to sand email
  to his friends to share the page he is reading.

  I know the html mailto syntex, but I don't know how to put
  the {$Title} to the mail subject and put the text as the mail
  content.


See if this will do: http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/TellAFriend

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Re: [pmwiki-users] Apply a style to an include ?

2008-03-01 Thread Tegan Dowling
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Stéphane Heckel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi List,

  Any way to apply a 'style' to an include

  ie : I want to 'italic'
  ''(:include {=$FullName}#entrybody#extendedbody:)''

  ie : I want to change the fontsize
  [--(:include {=$FullName}#entrybody#extendedbody:)--]


Have a look here:  http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Test/Include

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