Re: [pmwiki-users] Fwd: Do I need Zap or Fox?

2007-02-25 Thread Hans
Sunday, February 25, 2007, 12:10:29 AM, Francis wrote:

 I basically want users to be able to edit and add  lines to tables without
 going directly into the wiki markup which can get rather confusing for long
 tables.  I like the 'delete' button that comes with AddDeleteLine2, but
 really also want an 'edit' button  that calls the data from that line of
 table back to the form and then allows it to be updated.

Fox adds a few features to AddDeleteLine2, mostly features implemented
in CommentBoxPlus, to make it a more flexible for building comment forms,
blogs, simple forums etc. As others said it is primarily for adding
content to a page (same page or different target page). It allows
insertion of a delete button for deleting the posted content later,
but it has for now no facility to add an edit button or link for
editing the posted content (and not editing the whole page).
Cookbook/SectionEdit may be used to add this feature I would think.

To add and delete lines in a table with a form input both
AddDeleteLine2 and Fox are equally suited. To edit individual lines
in the table I don't know. SectionEdit may not be able to do this,
since lines are not sections. But I have not investigated the
possibilities here.

If anyone has ideas how to add editing of lines and sections to Fox i
would be very interested.

ZAP is based on creating a new data pages for each posting of new
content, and then using pagelists to integrate the content to be
viewed on a single page.


Hans


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Re: [pmwiki-users] Fwd: Do I need Zap or Fox?

2007-02-24 Thread Kathryn Andersen
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 12:10:29AM +, Francis Casson wrote:
 I basically want users to be able to edit and add  lines to tables without
 going directly into the wiki markup which can get rather confusing for long
 tables.  I like the 'delete' button that comes with AddDeleteLine2, but
 really also want an 'edit' button  that calls the data from that line of
 table back to the form and then allows it to be updated.  I suspect probably
 both Zap and Fox will do what I need, but I am tempted to go with Zap just
 because it has nice documentation for a semi-novice like myself... What are
 the differences between the two?  I can't make it out from their cookbook
 pages!

My understanding is that Fox is for adding content to a given page (and
deleting it); which is useful for adding comments and forums and things like 
that.

Zap is oriented towards editing data pages with forms, not adding
additional content to pages.

I'm not entirely sure which one would be better for your purposes.

Kathryn Andersen
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Re: [pmwiki-users] Fwd: Do I need Zap or Fox?

2007-02-24 Thread The Editor
On 2/24/07, Kathryn Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 12:10:29AM +, Francis Casson wrote:
  I basically want users to be able to edit and add  lines to tables without
  going directly into the wiki markup which can get rather confusing for long
  tables.  I like the 'delete' button that comes with AddDeleteLine2, but
  really also want an 'edit' button  that calls the data from that line of
  table back to the form and then allows it to be updated.  I suspect probably
  both Zap and Fox will do what I need, but I am tempted to go with Zap just
  because it has nice documentation for a semi-novice like myself... What are
  the differences between the two?  I can't make it out from their cookbook
  pages!

 My understanding is that Fox is for adding content to a given page (and
 deleting it); which is useful for adding comments and forums and things like 
 that.

 Zap is oriented towards editing data pages with forms, not adding
 additional content to pages.

 I'm not entirely sure which one would be better for your purposes.


Fox is probably more what you are looking for as I think it is
designed specifically for what you have in mind.  You can do the same
thing in ZAP using its log function, and it might be a better option
if you want to use some of ZAP's various other functions, but I'm out
of town again another week and won't be able to provide much support.
And Hans is good at providing support for Fox.  Another good reason to
take a look at Fox.

To summarize the difference between Fox and ZAP, I would say ZAP is a
multipurpose forms processing engines with many capabilities that can
be used for many kinds of applications.  Fox has one specific
purpose--inserting content into a page.  Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Dan

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