[libreoffice-projects] lists without moderators

2011-03-18 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

I did a quick research, and it seems that the following mailing lists 
have no moderator yet. So, my question is, who likes to jump in? Those 
who already moderate other lists in the respective domains are ideal 
candidates, of course. :-)


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hr.libreoffice.org/users
hr.libreoffice.org/announce
hr.libreoffice.org/discuss
fi.libreoffice.org/users
fi.libreoffice.org/announce
fi.libreoffice.org/discuss
fa.libreoffice.org/users
fa.libreoffice.org/announce
fa.libreoffice.org/discuss
ru.libreoffice.org/users
ru.libreoffice.org/announce
ru.libreoffice.org/discuss
documentfoundation.org/moderators
gl.libreoffice.org/announce
zh-cn.libreoffice.org/announce
zh.libreoffice.org/announce
it.libreoffice.org/announce
sl.libreoffice.org/users
sl.libreoffice.org/announce
sl.libreoffice.org/discuss
bg.libreoffice.org/users
bg.libreoffice.org/announce
bg.libreoffice.org/discuss
libreoffice.org/accessibility
sk.libreoffice.org/users
sk.libreoffice.org/announce
sk.libreoffice.org/discuss
pl.libreoffice.org/users
pl.libreoffice.org/announce
pl.libreoffice.org/discuss
es.libreoffice.org/users
es.libreoffice.org/announce
es.libreoffice.org/discuss
cz.libreoffice.org/users
cz.libreoffice.org/announce
cz.libreoffice.org/discuss
zh-tw.libreoffice.org/announce
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Thanks,
Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-projects] lists without moderators

2011-03-18 Thread Harri Pitkänen
Hi!

On Friday 18 March 2011, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 fi.libreoffice.org/users
 fi.libreoffice.org/announce
 fi.libreoffice.org/discuss

I can start moderating these lists.

Harri

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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: libreofficebox teams and subsites

2011-03-18 Thread Webmaster for Lungstrom.com

On 03/18/2011 04:02 AM, Sophie Gautier wrote:

Hi Erich
On 18/03/2011 02:43, Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote:

what about 'LibOx'?

So, some quick but not very satisfying proposals either:

Box(Libre)Office
LibreOfficeLive
LO0Box (LibreOfficeOutoftheBox)

Again, thanks a lot for sharing all this work, this is really great!
Kind regards
Sophie


I like LibreOfficeLive.
How about: LibreOffice-Project, LibreOffice-Communities, 
LibreOffice-Suite, LibreOffice-Portal



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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: libreofficebox teams and subsites

2011-03-18 Thread Webmaster for Lungstrom.com

On 03/18/2011 05:45 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote:

Hi Sophie,
Am 18.03.2011 09:02, schrieb Sophie Gautier:

Hi Erich
On 18/03/2011 02:43, Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote:



LO0Box (LibreOfficeOutoftheBox)


Is the 0 (null) right? Then you will get many mistakes in pronouncing 
and writing.


I thought we should not use LO as logogram?!

So:
LibOBox or
LiBO0Box or
LibOB

But the best of these is 'LibOx'.

I think we should keep LibreOffice in the name so people who do not 
know the shortened version of the name could find it in a search or 
remember it.



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Re: [libreoffice-projects] libreofficebox teams and subsites

2011-03-18 Thread Erich Christian
Hi Tim, *

Am 18.03.2011 14:42, schrieb Webmaster for Lungstrom.com:
 Am 17.03.2011 22:39, schrieb Erich Christian:
 Are these sub-sites just English, French, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese,
 etc., translations for the German version, or will they be their own
 versions of the original site with content differences and such?

Subsites will be created on demand of teams like at LO website and the
teams are free to decide whether they want to translate or create their
own pages.


 What happens with the projects that are different than the original
 site, like our North American project?  Will it become something like
 north_american.libreofficebox.org ?

Up to you actually, I don't really see any restrictions.


 I would love to see one place where all the different projects will be
 seen and the visitor can choose to go to each project's page[s] and DVD
 offering.  Currently there are several DVD projects being worked on.  It
 would be nice to have all of these DVD projects listed in an easy to
 find place so the visitor to the site can find the right ISO download
 for their needs.  Also that list could include places for the visitors
 to find the groups that are offering physical media for sale.  The old
 OOo site use to have such a list, but Oracle's new site is lacking a lot
 of the mirror and purchase sites that they had when Sun was in charge. 
 I know several people in my building who asked me about where they could
 purchase the DVD.  These people do not have fast Internet access or none
 at all [since the building has a computer center for that use].  So here
 is my list of parts of good International site.
 
 1] The main site in English [standard some would say], but if there is
 the ability for the site to access the visitor's default language, the
 visitor would be forwarded to the correct language version of the main
 site.

I guess there's the possibility to fetch the visitor's browser language
and redirect him, but this is far ahead because it is not our job to do
all the translations - we offer the environment for different teams to
do it, like on the LO website.


 2]  The main site would have a page listing all the different regional
 projects sorted by language[s] and geographical region[s].

http://libreofficebox.org/projects/  is a start for this


 3]  There will be a page where the visitor would find places to download
 the ISO files from these different regional projects, and versions of
 the CD/DVD projects in as many languages as available.

Each subsite can provide a download page on their website in the
according language.


 4] There will be a page that list groups or individuals where a visitor
 can purchase a physical copy of a DVD or CD so there would be no need to
 use their bandwidth to download up to 4.4 GB of file size of an ISO file
 and then burn the ISO to a working CD or DVD for their use.  Have this
 list sorted, again, by language[s] and geographical region[s].  This way
 the visitor can find a seller that is the closest to their location
 and have the least amount of shipping cost to them.

Up to the teams again, we'll provide the space for a website and a
development site as I have written.


 Actually, a nice marketing tag line for the seller would be with
 ever DVD purchase, we will donate a portion of the sale to LibreOffice
 and The Document Foundation.  I would think people would like that.  If
 it costs $10 USD to make a professionally printed DVD and Case, ant it
 takes $5 USD to ship it to the buyer, the buyer would not be to unhappy
 if the seller adds on a $1 or $2 to that price for a donation.  So the
 sale would be $11 plus $5 shipping and processing, with the seller
 sending a check to The Document Foundation/LibreOffice for each purchase
 as a donation.

see above


 [quote]
 We have finished the first step of our move and are up to prepare
 Silverstripe and the iso generating scripts on libreofficebox.org for
 multilingual use
 [unquote]
 
 What does this mean?  It seems to read that there will be a script that
 will generate an ISO file on demand for the visitor.  I do not know
 about you but it takes over 15 minutes to generate a 4 GB DVD on a
 dual core 2GHz Vista machine.

No, not for the visitor but for the teams.
Our service is focussed on the community, the services for visitors are
up to the teams.


 [quote]
 The dvd ui can be exported together with all linked files prior to
 an upcoming release of a dvd into static html, the iso file will be
 generated by script from this export.
 [unquote]
 
 I read this as saying there will be a script in the HTML page that will
 look into a data base file for all the listed DVD projects and display
 this list for the visitor to see.  Then if there is a new project to be
 added to the list, you add it to the data base file and not change the
 code or scripts on the HTML page that displays the list.

Again this procedure is dedicated to the teams to create their iso files.
Visitor can choose from 

Re: [libreoffice-projects] libreofficebox teams and subsites

2011-03-18 Thread Webmaster for Lungstrom.com

On 03/18/2011 12:51 PM, Erich Christian wrote:

Hi Tim, *

Am 18.03.2011 14:42, schrieb Webmaster for Lungstrom.com:

Am 17.03.2011 22:39, schrieb Erich Christian:

Are these sub-sites just English, French, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese,
etc., translations for the German version, or will they be their own
versions of the original site with content differences and such?

Subsites will be created on demand of teams like at LO website and the
teams are free to decide whether they want to translate or create their
own pages.

Thank you for clarifying this.



What happens with the projects that are different than the original
site, like our North American project?  Will it become something like
north_american.libreofficebox.org ?

Up to you actually, I don't really see any restrictions.



Thank you for clarifying this.
I think our project may be something like the above sub-domain.


snip

1] The main site in English [standard some would say], but if there is
the ability for the site to access the visitor's default language, the
visitor would be forwarded to the correct language version of the main
site.

I guess there's the possibility to fetch the visitor's browser language
and redirect him, but this is far ahead because it is not our job to do
all the translations - we offer the environment for different teams to
do it, like on the LO website.

I know many sites do this, but once you get your pages translated to one 
or two other languages you might look into adding that feature to your 
domain.  Our project will have a manual language bar somewhat like 
what is one the wiki pages where you can click on the language and you 
go to that language's version of the displayed page and then stay with 
that language's pages till you switch to a different language.  Actually 
the wiki pages is what made me want to have that option for our site 
and DVD when we have more languages available than English.

2]  The main site would have a page listing all the different regional
projects sorted by language[s] and geographical region[s].

http://libreofficebox.org/projects/  is a start for this

 see the bottom of the email for the error message displayed - the 
web server is unable to respond. . . .
Also on the projects page, the de.libre. . . . link worked before but 
the develop project link did not work.

3]  There will be a page where the visitor would find places to download
the ISO files from these different regional projects, and versions of
the CD/DVD projects in as many languages as available.

Each subsite can provide a download page on their website in the
according language.
It would be nice to have one page listing all the available places.  It 
would be convenient for the user/visitor.  Could you have a symbol/icon 
of a CD/DVD next to the name of the project and/or the projects link 
giving the user an indicator that that project has a DVD, ISO download 
or media to sell, or other icons that indicate something about the 
project.  Language icon, ISO icon, region icon?  Something like the 
icons on the DVD project showing if the link is to a Writer file, and 
archived file, a web link, and email link, and all the other ones in the 
theme folders.

4] There will be a page that list groups or individuals where a visitor
can purchase a physical copy of a DVD or CD so there would be no need to
use their bandwidth to download up to 4.4 GB of file size of an ISO file
and then burn the ISO to a working CD or DVD for their use.  Have this
list sorted, again, by language[s] and geographical region[s].  This way
the visitor can find a seller that is the closest to their location
and have the least amount of shipping cost to them.

Up to the teams again, we'll provide the space for a website and a
development site as I have written.
As before, a list of these sites [whether project sites or other web 
pages] and an icon next to the link showing there is a link to the DVD 
for sale.

Actually, a nice marketing tag line for the seller would be with
ever DVD purchase, we will donate a portion of the sale to LibreOffice
and The Document Foundation.  I would think people would like that.  If
it costs $10 USD to make a professionally printed DVD and Case, ant it
takes $5 USD to ship it to the buyer, the buyer would not be to unhappy
if the seller adds on a $1 or $2 to that price for a donation.  So the
sale would be $11 plus $5 shipping and processing, with the seller
sending a check to The Document Foundation/LibreOffice for each purchase
as a donation.

see above
see above? I do not know where you mean.  This was just an idea for 
those who might be thinking about offering a physical DVD for 
sale/shipped to the visitors.  I was just thinking about a way TDF/LO 
could have an income/donation source.  Every not-for-profit organization 
needs to have money to pay for things.  This one to pay for server 
space, electricity, domain fees, marketing supplies like event banners 
and handouts.  A local non-profit group 

Re: [libreoffice-projects] libreofficebox teams and subsites

2011-03-18 Thread Erich Christian
Hi K-J, *

Am 19.03.2011 00:30, schrieb ol klaus-jürgen weghorn:
 I get a HTTP500 Interner Serverfehler on IE8. On Firefox I get only a
 white page without anything.
 
 Now it works again.
 
 Footer:
 The footer of the webpage is in German. I don't know if it is only if
 the browser is in German or is it for all.
 The three links Datenschutz, Impressum and Sitemap get always a Page
 not found.


Yep, sorry - still updating Silverstripe, took a little longer, will
figure out with different footers.

Cheers
Erich

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