* Present:
Hangout: Andras, Bjoern, Michael M, Thorsten, Tsahi,
Miklos, Adam, Kohei
Phone:Lionel, Eike, David, Norbert, Cloph, Petr,
Pierre-Eric, Kendy, Tibbylickle
Trying etherpad for the 1st time: cf. unusual formatting.
+ http://pad.documentfoundation.org/
* Completed Action Items
+ poke at AFM startup / fontcache issue (Caolan)
+ invite pepp for next week (Michael)
+ working on Date API fix for rc3 (Eike/Michael S)
[ made it into rc3 - many thanks to all concerned !
Eike, Lionel, Michael S ]
+ sidebar option should default enabled it when enabled (Kendy)
+ sent vtune details to Pierre-Eric (Bjoern)
[ pending response from Intel ]
+ talk with Robinson Ask = fdo integration / flow (Joel)
[ doesn't particularly like moving all bugs - ask
may overload the admins change our workflow,
instead move ahead with feedback ]
+ get windows build-bot setup (Thorsten)
[ one machine sent to Cloph, another doing
it's first build, and nice howto from Kendy, which
is here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Tinderbox/Setup ]
* Pending Action items:
+ get remaining GOSC guys introduced on the QA list (Cedric)
+ fdo#60858 needs input (Astron)
+ file a bug to split out the ruler-fix piece (Cedric)
+ file svg / help-about issue in master as 4.2 MAB (Astron)
+ improve configure to avoid versioning mistakes (Cloph)
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 3.6.7 rc2 update, prepared to be announced
+ 4.1.0 rc3 status ...
+ ready to be pushed to mirros after 3.6.7 has been done
+ pre-announce rc3 tomorrow
+ delays down to last minute iterator and indexing fix for
Windows.
+ editing master-pages = release notes, have fix in master
* Should we kill TDF .deb builds ? (Bjoern)
+ pkgs are lame, neither Rene nor Bjoern working on that
+ direct people to Rene's builds / PPAs instead ?
+ long run: fix up-stream pkging to be more distro-like
+ significant differences Debian - TDF (Lionel)
+ pwrt. internal libraries / embedded copies
+ nice to have a comparison to see where the bug is
+ TDF builds run anywhere; Debian/Ubuntu builds not as much
+ what is the real problem ? (Michael)
+ someone wants to install TDF packages, and uninstall them
(Bjoern)
+ could we add a provide + a conflict (Michael)
+ people try to un-install the distro package - but remove
the meta-package, de-install the meta-package
(or forget pkgs like uno/ure which are not globbed by
libreoffice*)
+ problems are inevitable for ISVs (Lionel)
+ just fixed 2x problems with Debian dependencies (Petr)
+ Stephan fixed one before vacation (Michael)
+ instead chance the pkging - to use a single name just
libreoffice+ver everywhere (Petr)
+ get rid of ugly core-01 etc. pkgs - many of them with
no ideas
of what is inside them
AI: come up with proposal for what to do (Rene, Bjoern, Petr)
* QA update (Joel)
+ did the auto-feedback work for the next round of needinfo bugs
+ not closed yet, wait a month
+ counting almost done for the contest, so we should know
winners soon.
+ feedback bits (thanks Joren for helping with this)
+ Robinson kindly committed to do the initial work
+ want it as simple as possible to start with,
no twitter
+ happy + sad face etc. for sending general
feedback.
+ a 'get involved' button.
+ button on the 'ask' site for 'report a bug'
+ admin button to move an ask question to FDO
automatically.
+ ask admins are stretched already
+ let users pre-sort bug vs. ask etc.
+ Need_Advice bugs input appreciated (more of them now)
+ 10 bugs (+0) in that state (thanks)
+ http://tinyurl.com/ce6d8km
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+113-95(+18 overall)
many thanks to the top five:
ign_christian 13
David Tardon13
James6
Caolán McNamara 5
Michael Stahl5
* round-trip interop. work (Tsahi/Adam/Miklos)
+ round-trip interop. of OOXML documents very important to us
(Tsahi)
+ focusing on preserving data, to remove any fear of data loss
+ plan is to add missing data elements to the internal model
+ initially hidden,