Re: [libreoffice-projects] [ke...@collabora.com: Minutes of ESC call: 2016-08-11]

2016-08-16 Thread Heiko Tietze 
In short, mobile only (listening to schuhplattner music somewhere in the 
Austrian alps; the music is not intentionally):
* Breeze & co. originals in git should be done
* ux-advice: keep it, because many bugs are not easy to file against a certain 
component
* tracking of needsux: sure, can do that; but many people may understand 
enhancements similar to ux, which needs to get covered (or better we restrict 
our trust in the numbers)

Not sure if I'll make it this Thursday. We published a post about online media 
integration and got some +1. Mostly because media player is not present at all. 
Would be good to get an update on this issue.

@bjoern: pls forward if necessary.

On August 16, 2016 5:11:01 PM GMT+02:00, Bjoern Michaelsen 
 wrote:
>Forwarding ESC minutes as they seem to be missing on projects@
>- Forwarded message from Jan Holesovsky  -
>
>Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:07:34 +0200
>From: Jan Holesovsky 
>To: libreoffice-dev , Libreoffice-qa
>   
>Subject: Minutes of ESC call: 2016-08-11
>X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.11
>
>* Present: Lionel, Eike, Sophie, Christian, jan I, Kendy, Caolán,
>David,
>  Armin, Michael S, Robinson, Jan-Marek, Thorsten
> 
>* Completed Action Items:
>+ ask for the script to change ::std -> std, check it in & queued up
>for the merge window (JanI)
> 
>* Pending Action Items:
>+ poke at MSDN licenses (Michael)
>[ waiting for a response on new process, on holiday ? ]
>+ investigate a cron job that queries & auto-merges (Norbert)
> [ the solution proposed by David - using his query & a JSON script
> to refine it - will work - needs a bit more python (Norbert) ]
>+ tweak UI and get LiveConnect API key / build case for board
>(Christian)
>+ attempt to re-build a recent gstreamer 1.0 / core spec file
>  on our CentOS6 base (tdf#94508) (Christian)
>+ Program committee to work on the Conf. program (Kendy, Thorsten,
>Italo, Marina)
>+ for breeze etc. originals, find out who needs commit access & enable
>them to do it (Heiko)
> 
>* Release Engineering update (Christian)
>+ 5.1.6 - in October
>+ 5.2.1 RC1
>+ has been tagged yesterday, builds uploading (except OS X)
>+ when uploaded, will announce
>+ Android & iOS Remote
> 
>* LibreOffice Conference in Brno (Kendy)
>+
>https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2016/04/08/libreoffice-brno-conference-call-for-paper/
>   + travelling to Brno -> fly to Vienna / Prague unlikely to go direct
>  (BMI has a flight from Munich, others from London).
>+
>https://conference.libreoffice.org/2016/practical-info/general-planing/
>+ Community-day -> no ESC, meet in the evening.
> 
>* Membership Committee plug (Michael)
>+ Please send nominations and self-nominations via e-mail to
>  electi...@documentfoundation.org (which reaches the Board of
>  Directors in private) and also (!) to
>  board-disc...@documentfoundation.org (which is a public mailing
>  list). We kindly ask nominees who would like to stand for
>  elections to provide a statement of up to 75 words on their
>  candidacy as continuous text (so no bullet lists or multiple
>  paragraphs). In addition, please also provide your full name,
>  e-mail address and your corporate affiliation, if any, and
>  please announce that you will provide information on all future
>  changes as soon as possible.
>+ tooling uses git & is user-friendly for devs.
> 
>* Documentation (Olivier)
>+(had an hard-disk failure and spend time rebuilding computer from
>scratch and restoring backup)
>+ please approve https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/27028/ and
>https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/27857/
>AI: + will check it (Cloph)
>+ investigated gitbook for collaborative book writing
>+ not so much different than editing a wiki page. Has pros and cons
>+ Has issue on importing existing ODT book - investigating
> 
>* GSoC 2016 (Thorsten)
>+ Next deadline is August 23rd 19:00 UTC for students to submit their
>work
>   + Mentors then review, final deadline for mentor eval is August 29th
>+ reminder - blogging at a minimum helps docs / QA teams etc.
>+ !!! soft pen-down next Monday (15th), on 23rd deliver & package
>+ to be frozen and delivered after that
>+ important that the students deliver that on time, otherwise they'll
>be failed
>+ 6 students attending the Conference
> 
>* UX Update (Heiko)
>+ can we start to monitor the unresolved bugs with "needsUXeval" here
>regularly? (Bjoern)
>+ like we do for e.g. QA (needinfo) and mentoring (easyhacks)
>+ currently 164 (22 touched last week):

[libreoffice-projects] [ke...@collabora.com: Minutes of ESC call: 2016-08-11]

2016-08-16 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen 
Forwarding ESC minutes as they seem to be missing on projects@
- Forwarded message from Jan Holesovsky  -

Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:07:34 +0200
From: Jan Holesovsky 
To: libreoffice-dev , Libreoffice-qa

Subject: Minutes of ESC call: 2016-08-11
X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.11

* Present: Lionel, Eike, Sophie, Christian, jan I, Kendy, Caolán, David,
  Armin, Michael S, Robinson, Jan-Marek, Thorsten
 
* Completed Action Items:
+ ask for the script to change ::std -> std, check it in & queued up for 
the merge window (JanI)
 
* Pending Action Items:
+ poke at MSDN licenses (Michael)
[ waiting for a response on new process, on holiday ? ]
+ investigate a cron job that queries & auto-merges (Norbert)
[ the solution proposed by David - using his query & a JSON script
  to refine it - will work - needs a bit more python (Norbert) ]
+ tweak UI and get LiveConnect API key / build case for board (Christian)
+ attempt to re-build a recent gstreamer 1.0 / core spec file
  on our CentOS6 base (tdf#94508) (Christian)
+ Program committee to work on the Conf. program (Kendy, Thorsten, Italo, 
Marina)
+ for breeze etc. originals, find out who needs commit access & enable them 
to do it (Heiko)
 
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 5.1.6 - in October
+ 5.2.1 RC1
+ has been tagged yesterday, builds uploading (except OS X)
+ when uploaded, will announce
+ Android & iOS Remote
 
* LibreOffice Conference in Brno (Kendy)
+ 
https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2016/04/08/libreoffice-brno-conference-call-for-paper/
+ travelling to Brno -> fly to Vienna / Prague unlikely to go direct
  (BMI has a flight from Munich, others from London).
+ https://conference.libreoffice.org/2016/practical-info/general-planing/
+ Community-day -> no ESC, meet in the evening.
 
* Membership Committee plug (Michael)
+ Please send nominations and self-nominations via e-mail to
  electi...@documentfoundation.org (which reaches the Board of
  Directors in private) and also (!) to
  board-disc...@documentfoundation.org (which is a public mailing
  list). We kindly ask nominees who would like to stand for
  elections to provide a statement of up to 75 words on their
  candidacy as continuous text (so no bullet lists or multiple
  paragraphs). In addition, please also provide your full name,
  e-mail address and your corporate affiliation, if any, and
  please announce that you will provide information on all future
  changes as soon as possible.
+ tooling uses git & is user-friendly for devs.
 
* Documentation (Olivier)
+(had an hard-disk failure and spend time rebuilding computer from scratch 
and restoring backup)
+ please approve https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/27028/ and 
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/27857/
AI: + will check it (Cloph)
+ investigated gitbook for collaborative book writing
+ not so much different than editing a wiki page. Has pros and cons
+ Has issue on importing existing ODT book - investigating
 
* GSoC 2016 (Thorsten)
+ Next deadline is August 23rd 19:00 UTC for students to submit their work
+ Mentors then review, final deadline for mentor eval is August 29th
+ reminder - blogging at a minimum helps docs / QA teams etc.
+ !!! soft pen-down next Monday (15th), on 23rd deliver & package
+ to be frozen and delivered after that
+ important that the students deliver that on time, otherwise they'll 
be failed
+ 6 students attending the Conference
 
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ can we start to monitor the unresolved bugs with "needsUXeval" here 
regularly? (Bjoern)
+ like we do for e.g. QA (needinfo) and mentoring (easyhacks)
+ currently 164 (22 touched last week):
  
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED_status=NEW_status=ASSIGNED_status=REOPENED_status=RESOLVED_status=VERIFIED_status=CLOSED_status=NEEDINFO_status=PLEASETEST=needsUXEval%2C%20_type=allwords_id=627266=changeddate%20DESC%2Cpriority%2Cbug_severity=LibreOffice_format=advanced=---
  
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED_status=NEW_status=ASSIGNED_status=REOPENED_status=RESOLVED_status=VERIFIED_status=CLOSED_status=NEEDINFO_status=PLEASETEST=-7d=Now=needsUXEval%2C%20_type=allwords_id=627267=LibreOffice_format=advanced=---
+ urgh, I see we have that already (@jani: or is that EasyHacks only? 
or global?) 
+ would be good though to discuss additions (bugs with new needsUXeval) 
and removals (bugs with solved needsUXeval)
+ according to ESC minutes since Jul 14 we gained some 21 unresolved 
(+15% in one month)
+ actually seems to be monitored already, but not much discussed (Bjoern)
+