[libreoffice-projects] [michael.me...@suse.com: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...]

2012-07-12 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:55:50 +0100
From: Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com
To: libreoffice-dev libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org, Libreoffice-qa 
libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
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* Present:
+ Pierre-Eric, Stephan, Lionel, Eike, Bjoern, Michael,
  Cedric, Astron, Thorsten, Rainer, Caolan, David, Petr

* Completed Action Items
+ fix gerrit moderation issues (Bjoern)
+ help Mirek update Mac installer artwork (Thorsten)
+ always official artwork in RC1, needs thoufgth
+ adapt  bring closer the 3.5.6 schedule (Petr)
+ design team made nice google+ post about new templates (Mirek)

https://plus.google.com/u/0/102673546895803839652/posts/B69SRVVi89t

* Pending Action Items
+ notify all committers when we have a nice simple, minimal
  statement of what is required for gerrit written (Bjoern)
+ pending Norbert's return
+ check new templates are using auto-fitting functionality (Thorsten)
+ crediting: can we separate templates in the credits page (Spaetz?)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 3.5.5 retrospective
+ went well, modulo needing another release-candidate
+ should we extend the gap between RC's - or not ?
+ prolly not we get few of these fix regressions
+ 3.5.6 RC1 - July 14th - 2 weeks time.
+ 3.6.0 RC1
+ builds ready, pending Mac PPC builds, announce tomorrow
+ looking good, but plenty of bugs to fix
+ 3.6.0 RC2 - Monday deadline
AI: + quest for kind volunteer to update the website (Michael)
+ Unique IP's using 3.6.0 betas so far:
+ B1 - 1100
+ B2 - 1000
+ B3 - 220

* GSOC update (Cedric)
+ time to ensure all evaluations are in; only 2 pending.

* UI / design update (Astron)
+ concerns about green-ness of new branding
+ leave it as-is for now; fix later in 3.6.2 if
  people havn't acclimatised to the brightness.
+ more tweaks to meet branding / alignment requirements
= new splashes coming
+ progress bar appearance on OS/X is poor
+ about-box / background image work in progress
AI: + Mango icons - not in yet, going in ~tomorrow (Astron)
AI: + fix CC-By-SA licensing requirements (Michael)

* re-basing update (Michael)
+ 76 modules ~complete, 59 to go
+ ~17k files re-based.

* Solaris compile / status update (Pierre-Eric)
+ friendly French chap working for Lanedo
+ couple of weeks of work to make it compile on Solaris with gcc
+ so far, starts, looks pretty and crashes
+ involved on IRC (pepp) - debugging and improving things there
+ focused on Intel initially

* un-merged patches in bugzilla (Michael S / Caolan)
+ halved the numbers of open bugs

* cppunit / build issues (Michael)
+ deferred for Markus / David to be present.

* QA update (Rainer)
+ business as usual
+ no un-expected problems in 3.6
+ no real blockers known currently
+ Tollef's bugzilla improvements
+ migrated database to faster  virtualised hardware.
+ fewer error-message problems so far.

* Windows / ldap (Fridrich)
+ porting from mozilla ldap library to native windows API
+ moving to openldap included for linux / generic builds
+ leave mozilla code for addressbook integration,
  and/or re-write to avoid big chunk of mozilla bundled
+ use NSS for security pieces

* gerrit update (David / Bjoern)
+ E-mail firehose
+ initially a bit much, turned it down a bit.
+ send mails for 'new change' and 'merged' now.
+ 'merged' is buggy, if you push directly without
  signing-off on gerrit before; bug filed.
+ gerritbot: scripting to eg. send mails etc. is in:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/contrib/dev-tools/tree/gerritbot
+ can we have the patch in the 'new change' mail (Lionel)
+ would be nice !
+ two ways to do mailing - better to move to using stream object
  and generate our own mails (Bjoern)
+ change templates on server-side; would affect all
  subscribing to a watched project.
+ could we not send mails for committers' changes (Petr)
+ hard to do (Bjoern)
+ some benefits
+ only a few more steps (Eike)
+ confusion from several routes through the flow
+ patches are well-formed  apply (Michael)
+ unwelcome transactional cost (Fridrich)
  

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2012-06-15 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:13:21 +0100
From: Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com
To: libreoffice-dev libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org, Libreoffice-qa 
libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
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* Present:
+ Norbert, Rainer, Eike, Lionel, Michael, Stephan, Andras,
  Cedric, Bjoern, Kendy, Astron, Petr, Mitch

* Completed Action Items
+ add encryption default UI option in 3.6 (Thorsten)
+ poke at Windows 8 certification requirements (Andras)
+ ran the test kit on LibreOffice, passed with warnings
+ clean uninstall modulo
+ not un-installing fonts - a feature
+ file signing issues - need to sign executables
+ tested on 64bit Win8 - works nicely.
+ update the splash-screen image for 3.6 (Astron)
+ contest ongoing ... targeted for Beta3

* Pending Action Items
+ [pending] merge the new pretty templates in place of the old ugly 
ones (Bjoern)
+ all of the templates in modulo BrightBlue problems
+ these show up only in the product
+ ready in a branch for merge before Beta2

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 3.6 / Beta 1 retrospective
+ delayed by deluge of commits just before FF.
+ misc. problems caused by one-off gbuild migrations
+ testing much encouraged here:
+ not enough new 3.6 specific bugs
+ 3.6 / Beta 2
+ Monday freeze - want all late-features in by then.
+ 3.5.5
+ thanks for all the patch reviews !
+ linux build host failed, Fridrich re-built a replacement
+ rc1 builds up-loaded, deadline for rc2 is in 25th June
+ longer window than usual

* GSOC update (Cedric)
+ checked-in with a few students this week

* Late features for Beta2
+ Windows 7 / UI improvements needs 2x more reviews.
+ Astron: approved the look - with some bug fixes
AI: + provide 3rd review of it (Markus)
+ calc: data-bars  color-scales (Moggi)
+ Beta1 has most of the core changes for the feature
+ dialogs  ODF changes were missing  need review / merging
+ ~1k lines of change
AI: + mail this evening for that (Markus)
AI: + review Markus' changes (Kendy)
AI: + sanity check UI of Markus' changes (Astron)
AI: + final sanity check of Kendy's issues (Eike)

* UI / design update (Astron)
+ icon licensing
AI: + send out some mail addresses to poke (Astron)
AI: + poke Tango authors (Michael)
+ default document / style-loading before feature-freeze
+ not quite ready yet
+ limited font selection annoying / is it worthwhile ?
+ needs testing, as to whether updating the std. styles
  alters future documents, and/or impacts performance
= punt to 3.7 post discussion
+ discussing promoting style use (Kendy/Mirek)
+ show styles in a drop-down
+ with a sub-menu for improving the styles

* SQLite vs. HSQLDB for base (Lionel)
+ SQLite very sloppy typing can cause serious problems cf.
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38811
+ no date/time datatype.
= perhaps not a good idea to switch to sqlite
   longer term
+ without tons of special casing, get lots of
  nasty bugs outside string, float
+ a new candidate with sane licensing, sane language,
  and code size required - thinking ongoing.
+ our best shot might be firebird
+ MPL license variant
+ feature set looks good

* Idiots' guide to using gerrit (Bjoern)
+ postponed for next week

* Exciting - existing user profile / upgrade bug tracker:
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489
+ potentially split this out into the 3.5 regression
  breakdown

* gcc 4.7 builds (Bjoern)
+ is anyone building regularly with this ?
+ latest Fedora building routinely with that (Stephan)
+ mostly just new warning cleanup
+ found an internal compiler error (Bjoern)
+ subsequenttest failure (Bjoern)
+ UNO bridges over-aggressive optimisation fix (Stephan)

* MSI cross-compile / packaging (Mitch)
+ Elidh making good progress, sees MSI files created
  by the code...

* re-basing update (Michael)
+ so far ~4k / 60k .[ch] files re-based
+ more aggressive string cleanups etc. are now welcome in
  any file 

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2012-05-17 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 21:00:51 +0100
From: Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com
To: libreoffice-dev libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org, Libreoffice-qa 
libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
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* Present:
+ Rainer, Petr, Kendy, Bjoern, Michael, David, Tor, Eike,
  Andras, Caolan, Astron, Kohei, Markus, Norbert, Thorsten

* Completed action items
+ poke Jimmac for updated Tango icons (Mirek/Astron)
+ v. positive response from Lapo
+ Noel to ack repeat-format proposal for ODF/TC (Noel / Thorsten)
+ get Alexander commit access  give a free hand (Michael)
+ look at bytemark / win32 tinderboxes (Fridrich)

* Pending Action Items
+ [working on it] pull up misc. internal versions for 3.6 (Fridrich)
+ latest cairo build bust on Windows - cairo needed for svg
+ switch to ChromeOS fonts in master if no reply from Liberation team 
(Caolan)
+ 
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-May/167150.html
+ rename VCL API to make it GetBeamerFoo  fix (Michael)
+ [pending] add encryption default UI option in 3.6 (Thorsten)
+ [in-progress] think over consequences of moving master - 3.6 on 
release etc. (Rainer)
+ finding the best sol'n
+ [in-progress] create new bugzilla components next week (Rainer)
+ write 2 paragraph gerrit teaser to dev-list (Bjoern)
+ connect Rainer with sysadmins wrt. status/live issues ticker 
(Thorsten)

* Action Items review

* GSOC update (Cedric)
+ poke students who havn't interacted - kick them if no
  git commit details setup  interactions.

* UI / design update (Astron/Mirek)
+ Alex - working on a design for Android / file manager
+ another good looking design for the impress remote
+ discussions around updating Tango on-going
+ conditional formatting - color-scales for 3.6 or not ?
+ it will be in 3.6, with data-bars ...
+ prettier rulers  theming (Kendy)
+ improved ruler thanks to Mirek's design
+ Windows 7 theming improvements in progress

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 3.5.4 - update
+ RC1 builds up-loading to mirrors; on-schedule.
+ Monday: deadline for 3.5.4rc2
+ 3.6 status
+ Will do an Alpha0 build to test building ...
  week before feature-freeze ie. week after 3.5.4-rc2
+ connectivity, reportreader, shell, scp2
+ will enable adding 10-12 modules to tail_build.
+ will merge next week, in time for 3.6
+ eager tripple review volunteers for experimental features
+ Petr, Bjoern, Caolan

* git submodules status / update (Norbert)
+ plan to integrate remaining modules into git
  using submodules
+ switching to it is a bit of a pain
+ renaming everything one directory up is annoying
+ applying patches across is annoying
+ can still checkout just the repos you want
+ tinbuild work is ongoing
+ best window to include it - before LibO 3.6

** Interesting for Release Engineers **

+ will move the git structure around inside
  binfilter, dictionaries, helpcontent
+ will try to get it in before 3.6 branch
+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Submodules

+ Advantage is - one sha identified version, across
  the board - and git bisecting works.

* build / tinderbox machines
+ bytemark windows tinderbox machine up  running ...
+ building a full install with debugsymbols
+ once per day.
AA: + get up-load ssh keys sent / setup (Norbert / Thorsten)

* security bug / updated website review (Caolan)
+ latest CVE information update at:
http://www.libreoffice.org/advisories/
+ perhaps should list CVEs that don't affect us too ?

* QA update (Rainer)
+ creating new bugzilla components
+ please visit link  answer questions tomorrow
  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Talk:BugReport_Details

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
+ 60 open (of 213) older 67/211   68/205  71/205  68/199 74/201 73/193 
66/183
 28%  32%  33% 35% 34%37%38%
36%
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 151(+6) bugs open of 556(+24) total

* Componentcount net *
+ Writer   - 58 (+5)
+ Presentation - 18 (-4)
+ LibreOffice  - 15 (+2)
+ Spreadsheet  - 13 (+3)
+ Drawing  - 9  (+0)
+