[libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Website Redesign - Beta
Hello! 2014-01-21 11:15 GMT+02:00 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org: http://newdesign.libreoffice.org What is the status with this? The subdomain does not work anymore and the new design is not in use at the main site. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Website Redesign - Beta
Hi Florian, *, On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Otto Kekäläinen wrote on 2014-02-13 12:37: What is the status with this? The subdomain does not work anymore and the new design is not in use at the main site. @Cloph, Alex: Any ETA on when the new VM will be available? Sorry for not announcing it here - it is currently available using the ip 144.76.139.236 so if you add the following to your /etc/hosts you can see it 144.76.139.236 newdesign.libreoffice.org ciao Christian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Website Redesign - Beta
Hi, Christian Lohmaier wrote on 2014-02-13 15:53: Sorry for not announcing it here - it is currently available using the ip 144.76.139.236 any objections that I change the DNS entry? :) Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Website Redesign - Beta
Not at all. Perhaps staging.libreoffice.org might be better :-) Best, Charles. Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit : Hi, Christian Lohmaier wrote on 2014-02-13 15:53: Sorry for not announcing it here - it is currently available using the ip 144.76.139.236 any objections that I change the DNS entry? :) Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Envoyé de mon téléphone avec Kaiten Mail. Excusez la brièveté. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Website Redesign - Beta
Hi, Site looks pretty nice. Thanks for your work and sorry for late (no) feedback from me :( I strongly agree with Otto regarding to items 1 and 4. 21 Oca 2014 15:24 tarihinde Otto Kekäläinen o...@seravo.fi yazdı: Hi 2014/1/21 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org: http://newdesign.libreoffice.org 1) Screenshots, screenshots, screenshots! Please put some clear, shiny and fancy screenshots. And trying to explains features with images is very easy and effective. What is Calc? Question can be answered as equivalent of Excel but it won't satisfy only users sees similarity with UI. Visualization of Charts, pivot tables, filters and functions gived them confidence. The thing is that LO is an office suite and not the one that people introduced first. Also look iwork site of Apple. Beautiful screenshots, great look of sample works gives the feeling that oh that's cool and i can make them easily. Impressive 4) Comparison to Microsoft Office This should be in the website. The question can it open ms office files is still the number 1. Having a main comparison table will help much. Best regards, Hope to have much time in near future -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Website Redesign - Beta
Excelent. On 21 January 2014 11:23, Otto Kekäläinen o...@seravo.fi wrote: 2014/1/21 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org: http://newdesign.libreoffice.org Wow, looks very good! I have nothing to add to the design/layout. About the contents I have some comments: 1) Screenshots, screenshots, screenshots! Immediately when somebody visits libreoffice.org to find out about LibreOffice, they whould be presented with screenshots. In the carousel the first image should include screenshots so that people get a sense about what it would look like if they ran LibreOffice. When features are presented and explained, they should have screenshots to visualize the description. 2) Free - but why? This is an old discussion, but free does not always communicate very well. I rather use the term open, but if you want to emphasize the American libertarian view and talk about Free/Freedom, the please add some text below each Free Office Suite which explains Why free? clarify the usual misunderstandings. 3) More facts, less marketing For example the main page has a paragraph LibreOffice comes with a host of new features for its users as well as several important changes and improvements under the hood. It looks very good and I agree with the content, but in my experience people don't respond well to this kind of argumentation even in a marketing context. Rather mention a few features and deliver some facts of what LibreOffice actually does. I know, writing short and good text is difficult.. 4) Comparison to Microsoft Office I noticed the absence of any mentions of the competitor. Is there a policy against it? I hope the marketing part of the site could some how state that LibreOffice is as good as MS Office and it is in most cases safe and sensible to switch. And if you need X, Y and Z, then LibreOffice is even better. Take inspiration from https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Feature_Comparison:_LibreOffice_-_Microsoft_Office 5) If this is so good, how come nobody uses it? Please add some list of famous users, e.g. the French Gendarmerie, City of Münich, Ministry of Justice in Finland etc.. LibreOffice is very popular, so show examples and figures. That should make people more safe to make the switch. Thanks and keep up the good work! -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- *Klaibson Ribeiro* Graduado em Administração de Empresas - UNISUL Currículo Lattes - http://lattes.cnpq.br/4254300895959474 Pós-graduando em Educação Tecnológica e Profissional - CETIQT/Senai Membro da Associação Software Livre de Santa Catarina - SOLISC - http://www.solisc.org.br Membro da Comunidade LibreOffice - pt-br.libreoffice.org Membro da The Document Foundation - www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/members/ Usuário Linux: 559705 - Registre-se é de graça - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Website Redesign - Beta
Le Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:23:42 +0200, Otto Kekäläinen o...@seravo.fi a écrit : 2014/1/21 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org: http://newdesign.libreoffice.org Wow, looks very good! I have nothing to add to the design/layout. About the contents I have some comments: 1) Screenshots, screenshots, screenshots! Immediately when somebody visits libreoffice.org to find out about LibreOffice, they whould be presented with screenshots. In the carousel the first image should include screenshots so that people get a sense about what it would look like if they ran LibreOffice. When features are presented and explained, they should have screenshots to visualize the description. No. And by the way, have you checked out the website for Microsoft Office or Mozilla? Because there are either no screenshots, or they are stuck somewhere in a back menu. 2) Free - but why? This is an old discussion, but free does not always communicate very well. I rather use the term open, but if you want to emphasize the American libertarian view and talk about Free/Freedom, the please add some text below each Free Office Suite which explains Why free? clarify the usual misunderstandings. Sorry about that, in fact, that text will be entirely scraped out and replaced by something completely different. The only Free you should see is in the trilogy: Free Office Suite, Fantastic People, Fun project. 3) More facts, less marketing For example the main page has a paragraph LibreOffice comes with a host of new features for its users as well as several important changes and improvements under the hood. It looks very good and I agree with the content, but in my experience people don't respond well to this kind of argumentation even in a marketing context. Rather mention a few features and deliver some facts of what LibreOffice actually does. I know, writing short and good text is difficult.. This portion can of course be changed. But if anything, we should do ten times more marketing, and less facts. We are getting bored to hell with facts. People don't care about facts; they want something fun they can use and understand as fast as possible. They also want to be part of something, like a community, and they want meaning. Facts in place of marketing could kill Free Software, I could swear it. 4) Comparison to Microsoft Office I noticed the absence of any mentions of the competitor. Is there a policy against it? I hope the marketing part of the site could some how state that LibreOffice is as good as MS Office and it is in most cases safe and sensible to switch. And if you need X, Y and Z, then LibreOffice is even better. Take inspiration from https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Feature_Comparison:_LibreOffice_-_Microsoft_Office In fact, this page is already linked in the Discover section. For various reasons (part of them legal, part of them related to messaging) I don't feel comfortable putting out such a list staight on the website, however, we *do* link to it. 5) If this is so good, how come nobody uses it? Please add some list of famous users, e.g. the French Gendarmerie, City of Münich, Ministry of Justice in Finland etc.. LibreOffice is very popular, so show examples and figures. That should make people more safe to make the switch. Very good point. I cannot promise such a page for next week, but we definitely should have a catchy page with such testimonials. At least we can do better than the Awards Page (About Us Awards) Thanks and keep up the good work! Thanks! -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-founder, The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: projects+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
