Thanks Andy, that's very helpful.

I had looked at the Abstract Model but the "i.e. an rdfs:Resource"
interpretation wasn't obvious to me from that which is why I turned to
the FAQ. 

Dave

On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 10:16 +0100, Andy Powell wrote: 
> Well... the DCMI Abstract Model [1] says that a 'described resource' is a 
> 'resource' (i.e. an rdfs:Resource):
> 
> resource (http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#Resource)
> Anything that might be identified. Familiar examples include an electronic 
> document, an image, a service (for example, "today's weather report for Los 
> Angeles"), and a collection of other resources. Not all resources are network 
> "retrievable"; for example, human beings, corporations, concepts and bound 
> books in a library can also be considered resources.
> 
> so in the context of current DCMI thinking your interpretation is too narrow. 
> (I haven't looked at the FAQ but I'm not sure how well maintained it is, nor 
> whether it has been updated in line with the language used in the Abstract 
> Model).
> 
> Historically, DCMI used to talk about document-like objects (DLOs) as being 
> the kind of things that DC metadata was optimised to describe. Some of this 
> legacy remains in, say, the definition of dcterms:format (which is pretty 
> horrible in any case) [2] and the DC Type vocabulary [3] and in more general 
> attitudes and practice.
> 
> To make matters worse, I think there are probably a wide range of views about 
> what DC metadata can reasonably be used to describe within the DCMI community 
> - and indeed on the value of things like Linked Data :-). I tried to touch on 
> some of this in my recent talk at the ISKO Linked Data - the future of 
> knowledge organisation on the Web conference a few weeks ago [4]. One of 
> DCMI's problems is that its longevity means that there are a wide range of 
> attitudes and practices to accommodate.
> 
> Overall though, I suggest that there is a general trend towards the 
> acceptance of using an appropriate mix of DC terms to describe any kind of 
> resource. If nothing else, DC terms are used to describe DC terms, which are 
> themselves conceptual :-).
> 
> (Note that I was one of the authors of the Abstract Model and therefore tend 
> to use it as my reference point rather more heavily than others do. For info, 
> there is a current conversation within DCMI about the continuing need for a 
> separate DCMI Abstract Model, as opposed to simply using the RDF model.)
> 
> [1] http://dublincore.org/documents/2007/06/04/abstract-model/
> [2] http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-terms/#terms-format
> [3] http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-terms/#H7
> [4] http://www.slideshare.net/andypowe11/linked-data-the-long-and-winding-road
> 
> Andy
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-lod-requ...@w3.org [mailto:public-lod-requ...@w3.org] On Behalf 
> Of Dave Reynolds
> Sent: 11 October 2010 22:54
> To: Linking Open Data
> Subject: Domain of Dublin Core terms
> 
> This is a back to basics kind of question ...
> 
> What sorts of entities are we happy to describe using Dublin Core Terms?
> 
> The Dublin Core Abstract Model [1] talks about "described resources"
> which are described in the FAQ [2] as "anything addressable via a
> URL ... including various collections of documents and non-electronic
> forms of media such as a museum or library archive". I've always taken
> this to mean that such resources are Information Resources in the sense
> of http-range-14, not abstract concepts. 
> 
> So I've been happy using, say, dct:spatial to talk about the area
> covered by some report or some data set (c.f. its use in dcat [3]) but
> not happy to use it for, say, the area affected by some public project
> or administered by a local council.
> 
> Various discussions have led me to question whether I'm being too
> restrictive here and whether the LOD general practice has evolved to use
> dcterms more broadly than that.
> 
> The published schema for dcterms has no rdfs:domain declarations for the
> bulk of the properties and no class representing describable resources.
> So from a pure inference point of view using properties such as
> dct:spatial on an abstract thing like a project does no harm. 
> 
> The question is whether the informal semantics or best practice
> expectations suggest avoiding this.
> 
> Dave
> 
> [1] http://dublincore.org/documents/2007/06/04/abstract-model/
> [2] http://dublincore.org/resources/faq/#whatisaresource
> [3]
> http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/Vocabulary_Reference#Property:_spatial.2Fgeographic_coverage
> 
> 
> 
> 
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