Re: Modeling large scale ontologies in OWL: Unmet needs

2006-09-21 Thread Phillip Lord

 DD == David Decraene [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  DD In large scale ontologies, one link should suffice,
  DD HasPart, and whether the part is a finger, toe, nail, muscle or
  DD anything else is not a task for the property to describe, but
  DD for the target


I'm not sure why this should be true for large ontologies. It seems to
me that this is just a question of modelling style. Either way should
actually work depending on what you are trying to achieve. 

Having multiple properties allows you to provide different properties
to the properties which can be useful. If, in your example, you have a
super property hasPart, then it seems to me that it would be
relatively straight forward to reduce the information content of the
ontology so that the subproperties are no longer represented. So hand
some hasDigit Finger can be represented as hand some hasPart Finger. 


  DD In formal ontology you could express this relation
  DD on a general level of parthood: Hand HasPart 6thfinger,
  DD cardinality 0. This is not possible in OWL.

Many people have used subproperties to do something like this. It's a
poor hack for representing qualified cardinality (and doesn't capture
exactly the same semantics). But it is only a hack. As others have
said, the lack of qualified cardinality in OWL is generally regarded
as unfortunate, and it should be coming back in. 

Phil






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Biomedical Data Integration Use Cases

2006-09-21 Thread Kashyap, Vipul








Susie,



Heres a set of biomedical data integration we have
been working on at Partners.

We identified three information queries that might be of
interest to biomedical researchers

and identified the following scenarios:



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Current state: The sequence of steps
a biomedical researcher would go through today to answer these questions

-
Proposed state (involving Semantic
Web Technologies): We have tried to identify where in the current state, SW
technology can be applied and what could be the value (steps in red font).



These are at a high level and need more drilling down, so I
look to the following feedback:


 Are the value propositions
 identified in these use cases feasible? Have I missed any?
 Any suggestions for drill
 down including examples, queries, databases, etc. would be helpful




The use cases are available at the following Wiki page: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIGUseCases/BiomedicalDataIntegration




If there is interest, I could present this at the next
BIORDF telecom and possibly discuss it at the next F2F.



Thanks and Regards,



---Vipul



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