Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] PA Roadmap Planning and LAC Conference

2011-03-24 Thread Kurt Taylor
Hi all, I was wondering what happed with the LAC meetup. Were any plans
firmed up to have a pulseaudio working session before/after LAC?

Kurt Taylor (irc krtaylor)

On 19 February 2011 00:40, Arun Raghavan arun.ragha...@collabora.co.ukwrote:

 On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 23:00 +0200, Tanu Kaskinen wrote:
  On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 11:15 -0600, Kurt Taylor wrote:
   Thanks for organizing this Colin!  I will do my best to attend, but
 that is
   5am (UTC-6) for me.
 
  It sounds like a few hours later would be better than the suggested
  11:00 UTC. Arun would probably be the first person to be annoyed by the
  time being moved too much forward, but he's going to sleep at 21:30 UTC,
  so there's plenty of headroom :)

 :) Indeed. If it helps, I created a little webthingummy to get
 everyone's preferences (we can add more options, but it seemed to me
 24th was acceptable to all):

 http://www.doodle.com/ivx28di2kzztm2dt

 Cheers,
 Arun

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Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] PA Roadmap Planning and LAC Conference

2011-03-24 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Kurt Taylor at 24/03/11 23:21 did gyre and gimble:
 Hi all, I was wondering what happed with the LAC meetup. Were any plans
 firmed up to have a pulseaudio working session before/after LAC?

Nothing formal arranged as of yet, but I'll be going, open to timing
suggestions.

Col

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Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] PA Roadmap Planning and LAC Conference

2011-02-18 Thread David Henningsson

On 2011-02-17 00:54, Colin Guthrie wrote:

Hi all,

There have been a few discussions recently about getting a solid roadmap
organised for the next medium term of PA development. While the
stable-queue stuff has been bubbling along nicely enough, there are
several new features in the 1.x master branch but no real timescales
decided. There are quite a few willing people out there these days which
is really encouraging, but we need to get a solid focus on when to
expect releases and what we hope to achieve in each one. This email is
the start of that process.


This is a great initiative, thanks!


In addition, there is the LAC conference[1] in Dublin (or just outside)
in May and there is already plans for quite a few PA developers and
interested parties attending. I will book my flights very soon, but if
there are several of us going, then I wonder if it would make sense to
try and have a sprint day before the conference (or after) to see if
we can all sit down in once place and concentrate on stuff for a little
while. Being in one pace would probably help a lot with certain
discussions and really help progress.

So this email is really about two things:
  1. Planning a time for an IRC meeting on the near term Road Map.
  2. Discussions if a sprint day at LAC is possible (so we can book
flights.


With regards to IRC meeting, I propose initially that we do this next
week sometime (the sooner the better). For the sake of argument, I'll
pick a time: 11am UTC Thursday 24th. Other timing suggestions welcome.
I'd expect it to take at least 1h but probably less than 2h and it would
be good if people involved could be fairly focused during the meeting
window. I'll prepare an agenda and ensure that notes/logs are taken
(with a meetbot) and made available afterwords. We will likely use a new
IRC channel for this but anyone who wants to sit in, lurk or actively
particpate would be most welcome.
  Q: Is this time suitable for everyone (Lennart in particular)?


Works for me.


With regards to LAC, David has already indicated he'll have to leave on
the Sunday (after the conf which is on Fri/Sat), so if no-one has any
objections, I'll propose that we have a Sprint day on Thursday 5th May
(ideally so people can arrive on Wed evening or early Thursday so we get
the full day). How would that fit for everyone? I've no idea about
space/location, but I'm sure something can be arranged, even if it's
just in the corner of a pub!


Agreed. Could also be worth checking with the LAC organisers if they 
could spare a room for us on Thursday.



Perhaps this can just be incorporated into
the Fri/Sat programme anyway and a separate day is not needed? Having
not been before, I'm not sure how practical the conf is and whether
the extra day would be needed or beneficial, but my general thoughts
would be more time = more code, so an extra day could still be nice!


I would prefer a separate day. This is because I don't want to miss the 
rest of the conference.


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Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] PA Roadmap Planning and LAC Conference

2011-02-18 Thread Scott Reeves
 On 2/16/2011 at 04:54 PM, Colin Guthrie gm...@colin.guthr.ie wrote: 
 Hi all,
 
 There have been a few discussions recently about getting a solid roadmap
 organised for the next medium term of PA development. While the
 stable-queue stuff has been bubbling along nicely enough, there are
 several new features in the 1.x master branch but no real timescales
 decided. There are quite a few willing people out there these days which
 is really encouraging, but we need to get a solid focus on when to
 expect releases and what we hope to achieve in each one. This email is
 the start of that process.

Sounds great. Have you pushed a stable-queue+latest updates out recently for
your distro? I've been testing it the last few days and it seems pretty good.
I'm thinking about pushing it to openSUSE

 With regards to IRC meeting, I propose initially that we do this next
 week sometime (the sooner the better). For the sake of argument, I'll
 pick a time: 11am UTC Thursday 24th. Other timing suggestions welcome.
 I'd expect it to take at least 1h but probably less than 2h and it would
 be good if people involved could be fairly focused during the meeting
 window. I'll prepare an agenda and ensure that notes/logs are taken
 (with a meetbot) and made available afterwords. We will likely use a new
 IRC channel for this but anyone who wants to sit in, lurk or actively
 particpate would be most welcome.
  Q: Is this time suitable for everyone (Lennart in particular)?

I would really like to attend but I am UTC-7 so that's 4am for me. A couple 
hours later
would be great but I understand moving it for me probably makes it worse for
someone else.  I'll try and attend but will certainly read the logs if not.


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Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] PA Roadmap Planning and LAC Conference

2011-02-18 Thread Kurt Taylor
Thanks for organizing this Colin!  I will do my best to attend, but that is
5am (UTC-6) for me.

Regards,
Kurt Taylor (irc krtaylor)

On 18 February 2011 11:03, Scott Reeves sree...@novell.com wrote:

  On 2/16/2011 at 04:54 PM, Colin Guthrie gm...@colin.guthr.ie wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  There have been a few discussions recently about getting a solid roadmap
  organised for the next medium term of PA development. While the
  stable-queue stuff has been bubbling along nicely enough, there are
  several new features in the 1.x master branch but no real timescales
  decided. There are quite a few willing people out there these days which
  is really encouraging, but we need to get a solid focus on when to
  expect releases and what we hope to achieve in each one. This email is
  the start of that process.

 Sounds great. Have you pushed a stable-queue+latest updates out recently
 for
 your distro? I've been testing it the last few days and it seems pretty
 good.
 I'm thinking about pushing it to openSUSE

  With regards to IRC meeting, I propose initially that we do this next
  week sometime (the sooner the better). For the sake of argument, I'll
  pick a time: 11am UTC Thursday 24th. Other timing suggestions welcome.
  I'd expect it to take at least 1h but probably less than 2h and it would
  be good if people involved could be fairly focused during the meeting
  window. I'll prepare an agenda and ensure that notes/logs are taken
  (with a meetbot) and made available afterwords. We will likely use a new
  IRC channel for this but anyone who wants to sit in, lurk or actively
  particpate would be most welcome.
   Q: Is this time suitable for everyone (Lennart in particular)?

 I would really like to attend but I am UTC-7 so that's 4am for me. A couple
 hours later
 would be great but I understand moving it for me probably makes it worse
 for
 someone else.  I'll try and attend but will certainly read the logs if not.


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Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] PA Roadmap Planning and LAC Conference

2011-02-18 Thread Tanu Kaskinen
On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 11:15 -0600, Kurt Taylor wrote:
 Thanks for organizing this Colin!  I will do my best to attend, but that is
 5am (UTC-6) for me.

It sounds like a few hours later would be better than the suggested
11:00 UTC. Arun would probably be the first person to be annoyed by the
time being moved too much forward, but he's going to sleep at 21:30 UTC,
so there's plenty of headroom :)

-- 
Tanu

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Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] PA Roadmap Planning and LAC Conference

2011-02-18 Thread Arun Raghavan
On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 23:00 +0200, Tanu Kaskinen wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 11:15 -0600, Kurt Taylor wrote:
  Thanks for organizing this Colin!  I will do my best to attend, but that is
  5am (UTC-6) for me.
 
 It sounds like a few hours later would be better than the suggested
 11:00 UTC. Arun would probably be the first person to be annoyed by the
 time being moved too much forward, but he's going to sleep at 21:30 UTC,
 so there's plenty of headroom :)

:) Indeed. If it helps, I created a little webthingummy to get
everyone's preferences (we can add more options, but it seemed to me
24th was acceptable to all):

http://www.doodle.com/ivx28di2kzztm2dt

Cheers,
Arun

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Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] PA Roadmap Planning and LAC Conference

2011-02-17 Thread Maarten Bosmans
2011/2/17 Colin Guthrie gm...@colin.guthr.ie:
 There have been a few discussions recently about getting a solid roadmap
 organised for the next medium term of PA development. While the
 stable-queue stuff has been bubbling along nicely enough, there are
 several new features in the 1.x master branch but no real timescales
 decided. There are quite a few willing people out there these days which
 is really encouraging, but we need to get a solid focus on when to
 expect releases and what we hope to achieve in each one. This email is
 the start of that process.

A solid plan for the next releases would indeed be very nice.

 With regards to IRC meeting, I propose initially that we do this next
 week sometime (the sooner the better). For the sake of argument, I'll
 pick a time: 11am UTC Thursday 24th. Other timing suggestions welcome.
 I'd expect it to take at least 1h but probably less than 2h and it would
 be good if people involved could be fairly focused during the meeting
 window. I'll prepare an agenda and ensure that notes/logs are taken
 (with a meetbot) and made available afterwords. We will likely use a new
 IRC channel for this but anyone who wants to sit in, lurk or actively
 particpate would be most welcome.
  Q: Is this time suitable for everyone (Lennart in particular)?

I'll try to be there.

I'm not sure if there is space on the agenda, but I'd like to discuss
pavucontrol for a little bit. Not so much the current status, but
rather what our vision is to what it should be, especially compared to
the Gnome/KDE-specific alternatives.

Maarten
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[pulseaudio-discuss] PA Roadmap Planning and LAC Conference

2011-02-16 Thread Colin Guthrie
Hi all,

There have been a few discussions recently about getting a solid roadmap
organised for the next medium term of PA development. While the
stable-queue stuff has been bubbling along nicely enough, there are
several new features in the 1.x master branch but no real timescales
decided. There are quite a few willing people out there these days which
is really encouraging, but we need to get a solid focus on when to
expect releases and what we hope to achieve in each one. This email is
the start of that process.

In addition, there is the LAC conference[1] in Dublin (or just outside)
in May and there is already plans for quite a few PA developers and
interested parties attending. I will book my flights very soon, but if
there are several of us going, then I wonder if it would make sense to
try and have a sprint day before the conference (or after) to see if
we can all sit down in once place and concentrate on stuff for a little
while. Being in one pace would probably help a lot with certain
discussions and really help progress.

So this email is really about two things:
 1. Planning a time for an IRC meeting on the near term Road Map.
 2. Discussions if a sprint day at LAC is possible (so we can book
flights.


With regards to IRC meeting, I propose initially that we do this next
week sometime (the sooner the better). For the sake of argument, I'll
pick a time: 11am UTC Thursday 24th. Other timing suggestions welcome.
I'd expect it to take at least 1h but probably less than 2h and it would
be good if people involved could be fairly focused during the meeting
window. I'll prepare an agenda and ensure that notes/logs are taken
(with a meetbot) and made available afterwords. We will likely use a new
IRC channel for this but anyone who wants to sit in, lurk or actively
particpate would be most welcome.
 Q: Is this time suitable for everyone (Lennart in particular)?


With regards to LAC, David has already indicated he'll have to leave on
the Sunday (after the conf which is on Fri/Sat), so if no-one has any
objections, I'll propose that we have a Sprint day on Thursday 5th May
(ideally so people can arrive on Wed evening or early Thursday so we get
the full day). How would that fit for everyone? I've no idea about
space/location, but I'm sure something can be arranged, even if it's
just in the corner of a pub! Perhaps this can just be incorporated into
the Fri/Sat programme anyway and a separate day is not needed? Having
not been before, I'm not sure how practical the conf is and whether
the extra day would be needed or beneficial, but my general thoughts
would be more time = more code, so an extra day could still be nice!
 Q: Lennart, are you going to LAC (I kinda assume so!) Have you booked
your flights yet, and could a sprint day be incorporated into your plans?


Comments and feedback welcome, but with LAC in particular, feedback
would be welcomed ASAP so people can book their flights (the sooner the
cheaper usually!).



FWIW, the things most interesting me personally (and things that I will
hopefully find time to actively work on!) will be the routing priority
lists I've talked about in the past and how to incorporate that into the
core, jack sensing, how to deal with the various virtual sinks in UI
friendly ways, and how to query what sinks a card profile would produce
without activating it (essentially higher level things that lead to good
user experience/tools/UI).

All the best

Col


[1] http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2011/?page=about
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