[puredyne] A New Install

2012-02-08 Thread Julian Brooks
Just some ideas for different future ways to share
common aims and efforts

Yes indeed, which is precisely what we could do with atm.

And as dope as that looks, tbh my immediate thoughts are with having a
fresh install.  Though I'm sure there must be more of us who have been
running Puredyne as our main install and are unsure where to go next, I'm
also presuming that there are others who are also thinking that any other
ready made OS will seem like a step backwards from what we've had already.
If I'd wanted to have a different distro I would have shifted to that
already!

So the general vibe is with building on debian: which one and how basic can
we get to have that custom feel yet contains enough 'stuff' to get going?

Obviously going to need a realtime kernel.  Are there really decent
benefits from rolling your own to fit your own machine?  And again if so -
how?

Personally I would be well chuffed to have a lappy where pretty much
everything is compiled and tweeked for my machine.  Not sure how big the
performance gains would be but personal satisfaction-wise it would be
sizeable.

And then to be able to clone that as a system restore whilst having learnt
how to make custom live-iso's for whatever reason (family, friends,
community, work, etc.) would be a really useful skill to share.

Onwards eh,

Julian




On 7 February 2012 23:47, Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk wrote:


 This side of Debian has always impressed me

 http://live-build.debian.net/cgi-bin/live-build

 Rather than a project that attempts to create and maintain
 a one-size-fits-all distribution I believe the future
 for software that supports groups like this is that
 they become a knowledge base with a pick-and-mix
 set of frequently desired features or configurations
 that can move forward independently of the host base
 system. This is different from the downstream model
 with backporting etc, in that it abandons the attempt to
 preserve a definitive version. For 64Studio, Daniel James
 and Free Ekanayaka adopted a powerful model based around
 PDK (shares some ideas with builders like Broth)
 with a concept of different blendable channels.

 Another advantage is that the base Debian doesnt have
 to be downloaded every time and doesnt need to be hosted
 by the team, its just a channel (package repo and rules for
 blending). Going back to the root of Debian frees the project
 from policies and decisions downstream at Ubuntu.

 Just some ideas for different future ways to share
 common aims and efforts




 On Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 06:28:11PM -0500, Dave Britton wrote:
  I've recently been struggling with carrot and coriander's limited
  life support from being karmic-based, so a long-term support
  distribution would be fine with me, I'd vote for Debian or Ubuntu
  just because I know it more and like the packaging system. The most
  important aspect of puredyne for me is the real-time kernel
  implementation, so I may have to just learn how to roll a linux
  distro myself to get the latest RT. I'm working in Supercollider,
  not pd, and I need jack and alsa to work well. I'd be happy to learn
  more about broth, and the intricacies of packaging in general, and
  help where I can.
 
  I also want to go on record thanking Aymeric and the rest of the
  team for bringing a great concept to reality and supporting its
  development for as long and well as you have. puredyne has helped me
  a lot!
  -Dave
 
  On 02/07/2012 09:07 PM, Julian Brooks wrote:
  Erm, now what?
  
  What is the general consensus of where to go next...
  
  I'm guessing that people are thinking of building on top of a minimal
  debian type thing?
  +1 for Debian :)
 
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Re: [puredyne] A New Install

2012-02-08 Thread Geofroy Tremblay
For me I just did a fresh debian stable install - still strugling to 
install fluxus though.


on my other mahcine I am using #! (crunchbang) which is quite minimal 
and fast! (running mixxx on a eeepc 701!!)


would love to contribute on a flexible loose distro based on debian and 
or a centralized information center for computational art / floss art os





On 08.02.2012 11:35, Julian Brooks wrote:

Just some ideas for different future ways to share
 common aims and efforts

Yes indeed, which is precisely what we could do with atm.

And as dope as that looks, tbh my immediate thoughts are with having
a fresh install.  Though I'm sure there must be more of us who have
been running Puredyne as our main install and are unsure where to go
next, I'm also presuming that there are others who are also thinking
that any other ready made OS will seem like a step backwards from 
what

we've had already.  If I'd wanted to have a different distro I would
have shifted to that already!

So the general vibe is with building on debian: which one and how
basic can we get to have that custom feel yet contains enough 'stuff'
to get going?

Obviously going to need a realtime kernel.  Are there really decent
benefits from rolling your own to fit your own machine?  And again if
so - how?

Personally I would be well chuffed to have a lappy where pretty much
everything is compiled and tweeked for my machine.  Not sure how big
the performance gains would be but personal satisfaction-wise it 
would

be sizeable.

And then to be able to clone that as a system restore whilst having
learnt how to make custom live-iso's for whatever reason (family,
friends, community, work, etc.) would be a really useful skill to
share.

 Onwards eh,

Julian

 

On 7 February 2012 23:47, Andy Farnell  wrote:


This side of Debian has always impressed me

http://live-build.debian.net/cgi-bin/live-build [1]

Rather than a project that attempts to create and maintain
a one-size-fits-all distribution I believe the future
for software that supports groups like this is that
they become a knowledge base with a pick-and-mix
set of frequently desired features or configurations
that can move forward independently of the host base
system. This is different from the downstream model
with backporting etc, in that it abandons the attempt to
preserve a definitive version. For 64Studio, Daniel James
and Free Ekanayaka adopted a powerful model based around
PDK (shares some ideas with builders like Broth)
with a concept of different blendable channels.

Another advantage is that the base Debian doesnt have
to be downloaded every time and doesnt need to be hosted
by the team, its just a channel (package repo and rules for
blending). Going back to the root of Debian frees the project
from policies and decisions downstream at Ubuntu.

Just some ideas for different future ways to share
common aims and efforts

On Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 06:28:11PM -0500, Dave Britton wrote:
 I've recently been struggling with carrot and coriander's
limited
 life support from being karmic-based, so a long-term support
 distribution would be fine with me, I'd vote for Debian or
Ubuntu
 just because I know it more and like the packaging system. The
most
 important aspect of puredyne for me is the real-time kernel
 implementation, so I may have to just learn how to roll a linux
 distro myself to get the latest RT. I'm working in
Supercollider,
 not pd, and I need jack and alsa to work well. I'd be happy to
learn
 more about broth, and the intricacies of packaging in general,
and
 help where I can.

 I also want to go on record thanking Aymeric and the rest of the
 team for bringing a great concept to reality and supporting its
 development for as long and well as you have. puredyne has
helped me
 a lot!
 -Dave

 On 02/07/2012 09:07 PM, Julian Brooks wrote:
 Erm, now what?
 
 What is the general consensus of where to go next...
 
 I'm guessing that people are thinking of building on top of a
minimal
 debian type thing?
 +1 for Debian :)

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 http://identi.ca/group/puredyne [3]
 irc://irc.goto10.org/puredyne [4]
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