Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Michael Lauer
Am Mit, 2003-01-15 um 23.05 schrieb Torsten Marek:
 What is the future of pyke.sf.net, because I want to know if it is possible to place 
some 
 little programs I happened to write on that page. By now, I do not have my own page 
and I 
 wouldn't like to create one.
 So it would be nice if there was a section of programs with links and/or direct 
downloads.

Yeah, I second this. I have a bunch of (hopefully resuable) PyQt widgets
which I could publish and would be interested in seeing other ones.

 One of the programs I mean is outline.py. It started as a port of the outline 
example of 
 Qt, but is under development for some time now and has evolved.
 It keeps a tree of remarks in an XML file, I use it as todolist/notepad/knowledge 
 base/organizer.

Sounds interesting.

Who is in charge of [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Jonathan Gardner
On Thursday 16 January 2003 05:13, Michael Lauer wrote:
 Am Mit, 2003-01-15 um 23.05 schrieb Torsten Marek:
  What is the future of pyke.sf.net, because I want to know if it is
  possible to place some little programs I happened to write on that page.
  By now, I do not have my own page and I wouldn't like to create one.
  So it would be nice if there was a section of programs with links and/or
  direct downloads.

 Yeah, I second this. I have a bunch of (hopefully resuable) PyQt widgets
 which I could publish and would be interested in seeing other ones.

snip

 Who is in charge of [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

This is really neat. I am in charge of pykde.sf.net, at least the 
administration part. I think it would be great to have this stuff on the 
site. It is no problem at all to put your programs in the downloads section.

Here are the options, and what is holding back each one. If someone has 
something they can donate (time or servers) to get one of these going, let me 
know and I'll work with you.

Option one is to have some sort of system where one could sign up, post 
scripts, rate other's scripts, comments on each other's scripts, offer 
patches, etc..., all hosted on SourceForge. This would be a lot of work, and 
it needs to be written in PHP. I can't help with this because I don't know 
PHP, I don't have the time to learn it, nor the time to implement something 
with it. If anyone knows PHP, or wants to learn it, and has time to do the 
development, let me know and I'll help get you set up.

Option two is to host your scripts somewhere else that already is in 
existence, most likely at a python script warehouse, or a Qt or KDE program 
warehouse. Unfortunately, I have yet to find a site that I personally enjoy 
and find useful, so there is no place that I can suggest for this. If anyone 
knows of a good site, let me know.

Option three is to use someone's web server, install mod_perl with apache, and 
get a real solution together, not this PHP stuff that SourceForge requires us 
to use. I would enjoy doing a lot of development work putting together an 
interactive website. The only downside is that we need to find someone with a 
suitable server. 

Those are the three long tem solutions I am looking at. The most realistic and 
the best option in my opinion is the first one. However, I myself cannot 
implement it. If anyone else has any other ideas, let me know.

In the meantime, if you want to see your source code on sourceforge, send me 
your code and a brief description of what your software does and why it is 
cool. I'll talk with the current webmaster and see what we can do with it.

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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Phil Thompson
On Thursday 16 January 2003 2:59 pm, Jonathan Gardner wrote:
 On Thursday 16 January 2003 05:13, Michael Lauer wrote:
  Am Mit, 2003-01-15 um 23.05 schrieb Torsten Marek:
   What is the future of pyke.sf.net, because I want to know if it is
   possible to place some little programs I happened to write on that
   page. By now, I do not have my own page and I wouldn't like to create
   one. So it would be nice if there was a section of programs with links
   and/or direct downloads.
 
  Yeah, I second this. I have a bunch of (hopefully resuable) PyQt widgets
  which I could publish and would be interested in seeing other ones.

 snip

  Who is in charge of [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

 This is really neat. I am in charge of pykde.sf.net, at least the
 administration part. I think it would be great to have this stuff on the
 site. It is no problem at all to put your programs in the downloads
 section.

 Here are the options, and what is holding back each one. If someone has
 something they can donate (time or servers) to get one of these going, let
 me know and I'll work with you.

 Option one is to have some sort of system where one could sign up, post
 scripts, rate other's scripts, comments on each other's scripts, offer
 patches, etc..., all hosted on SourceForge. This would be a lot of work,
 and it needs to be written in PHP. I can't help with this because I don't
 know PHP, I don't have the time to learn it, nor the time to implement
 something with it. If anyone knows PHP, or wants to learn it, and has time
 to do the development, let me know and I'll help get you set up.

 Option two is to host your scripts somewhere else that already is in
 existence, most likely at a python script warehouse, or a Qt or KDE program
 warehouse. Unfortunately, I have yet to find a site that I personally enjoy
 and find useful, so there is no place that I can suggest for this. If
 anyone knows of a good site, let me know.

 Option three is to use someone's web server, install mod_perl with apache,
 and get a real solution together, not this PHP stuff that SourceForge
 requires us to use. I would enjoy doing a lot of development work putting
 together an interactive website. The only downside is that we need to find
 someone with a suitable server.

 Those are the three long tem solutions I am looking at. The most realistic
 and the best option in my opinion is the first one. However, I myself
 cannot implement it. If anyone else has any other ideas, let me know.

 In the meantime, if you want to see your source code on sourceforge, send
 me your code and a brief description of what your software does and why it
 is cool. I'll talk with the current webmaster and see what we can do with
 it.

I can offer web space, but there is still the problem that a front end needs 
to be coded up. I have the skills, but not the time.

Phil

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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Hans-Peter Jansen
On Thursday 16 January 2003 14:13, Michael Lauer wrote:
 Am Mit, 2003-01-15 um 23.05 schrieb Torsten Marek:
  What is the future of pyke.sf.net, because I want to know if it is
  possible to place some little programs I happened to write on that page.
  By now, I do not have my own page and I wouldn't like to create one.
  So it would be nice if there was a section of programs with links and/or
  direct downloads.

 Yeah, I second this. I have a bunch of (hopefully resuable) PyQt widgets
 which I could publish and would be interested in seeing other ones.

  One of the programs I mean is outline.py. It started as a port of the
  outline example of Qt, but is under development for some time now and has
  evolved.
  It keeps a tree of remarks in an XML file, I use it as
  todolist/notepad/knowledge base/organizer.

 Sounds interesting.

 Who is in charge of [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

Do possibly mean http://sourceforge.net/project/admin/?group_id=61057

Jonathan and Jim are the project managers there.

Jonathan, Jim, what do you think about a contribution package section.
If somebody want to upload something, just post the details in this list
file name: 
package name:
package version:
release notes:
changelog (opt.):

and upload to anonymous@ftp://upload.sourceforge.net

Hopefully some project member picks it up quickly enough, and publish
the thing in download section.

Comments?

Pete

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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Michael Lauer
 Option one is to have some sort of system where one could sign up, post 
 scripts, rate other's scripts, comments on each other's scripts, offer 
 patches, etc..., all hosted on SourceForge. This would be a lot of work, and 
 it needs to be written in PHP. I can't help with this because I don't know 
 PHP, I don't have the time to learn it, nor the time to implement something 
 with it. If anyone knows PHP, or wants to learn it, and has time to do the 
 development, let me know and I'll help get you set up.

Take a look at openzaurus.org, which is coded in php. Since I'm very
active in this project, I know the guy who did this. Maybe we could
take some of this code?

Mickey.
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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Jonathan Gardner
On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:26, Phil Thompson wrote:

 I can offer web space, but there is still the problem that a front end
 needs to be coded up. I have the skills, but not the time.


Jim,

Thanks for the offer.

Is the server running Linux? Would you mind if I used Apache and mod_perl with 
a PostgreSQL database to get this done? Would you mind if I was able to have 
a normal user account on the system?

I think it is a great idea to have something like this hosted outside of 
SourceForge because we can have so much control over it. The only worry is 
that if it gets terribly busy, will it impose on your ISP bill? I always like 
using SourceForge for bandwidth munching things because the bill ends up in 
VA's lap.

Anyway, I have a few people who are willing to do this using PHP on the 
SourceForge site, so if there is any reason you would be uncomfortable doing 
this, don't be afraid to let me know.

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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Jim Bublitz
On 16-Jan-03 Jonathan Gardner wrote:
 On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:27, Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:
 Jonathan and Jim are the project managers there.

 Jonathan, Jim, what do you think about a contribution package
 section.
 
 I think it is a great idea. I think it is necessary for
 wide-spread acceptance  of PyQt and PyKDE. Our goal is world
 domination, isn't it? ;-)

My goal is to just get the next release done (I don't know if that
deserves a :) or :( )

I thought this was great software back when it was  1.0, and a lot
of stuff (including Phil's v 4.0 and Detlev's 'eric') is going to
make it even better. I'd like to see sip, PyQt and PyKDE get wider
use and recognition.

I probably average privately an inquiry per month from people who
want to build on top of PyQt/PyKDE, but a lot of that is still
proprietary stuff. That's in addition to stuff like Gerard's
package and some other things on sf that occasionally get mentioned
here.
 

Jim

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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Phil Thompson
On Thursday 16 January 2003 4:42 pm, Jonathan Gardner wrote:
 On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:26, Phil Thompson wrote:
  I can offer web space, but there is still the problem that a front end
  needs to be coded up. I have the skills, but not the time.

 Jim,

 Thanks for the offer.

Errm, me or Jim?

 Is the server running Linux? Would you mind if I used Apache and mod_perl
 with a PostgreSQL database to get this done? Would you mind if I was able
 to have a normal user account on the system?

My server (rather my ISP's server) is PHP and MySQL. You couldn't have an 
account. I'd have to vet the code before installing it. However, I wouldn't 
have a problem maintaining the code once the first version was up.

Phil

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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Jonathan Gardner
On Thursday 16 January 2003 09:12, Phil Thompson wrote:
 On Thursday 16 January 2003 4:42 pm, Jonathan Gardner wrote:
  On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:26, Phil Thompson wrote:
   I can offer web space, but there is still the problem that a front end
   needs to be coded up. I have the skills, but not the time.
 
  Jim,
 
  Thanks for the offer.

 Errm, me or Jim?


Sorry Phil, I meant you. Oops..

  Is the server running Linux? Would you mind if I used Apache and mod_perl
  with a PostgreSQL database to get this done? Would you mind if I was able
  to have a normal user account on the system?

 My server (rather my ISP's server) is PHP and MySQL. You couldn't have an
 account. I'd have to vet the code before installing it. However, I wouldn't
 have a problem maintaining the code once the first version was up.


Is there any advantage to using your (or your ISP's) servers over SourceForge? 
Wouldn't you rather have SourceForge foot the bill? It sounds like the setup 
is almost exactly the same.

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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Phil Thompson
On Thursday 16 January 2003 5:30 pm, Jonathan Gardner wrote:
 On Thursday 16 January 2003 09:12, Phil Thompson wrote:
  On Thursday 16 January 2003 4:42 pm, Jonathan Gardner wrote:
   On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:26, Phil Thompson wrote:
I can offer web space, but there is still the problem that a front
end needs to be coded up. I have the skills, but not the time.
  
   Jim,
  
   Thanks for the offer.
 
  Errm, me or Jim?

 Sorry Phil, I meant you. Oops..

   Is the server running Linux? Would you mind if I used Apache and
   mod_perl with a PostgreSQL database to get this done? Would you mind if
   I was able to have a normal user account on the system?
 
  My server (rather my ISP's server) is PHP and MySQL. You couldn't have an
  account. I'd have to vet the code before installing it. However, I
  wouldn't have a problem maintaining the code once the first version was
  up.

 Is there any advantage to using your (or your ISP's) servers over
 SourceForge? Wouldn't you rather have SourceForge foot the bill? It sounds
 like the setup is almost exactly the same.

No advantage at all - but it's there as an option.

Phil

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Re: [PyKDE] pykde.sourceforge.net

2003-01-16 Thread Jim Bublitz
On 16-Jan-03 Jonathan Gardner wrote:
 On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:26, Phil Thompson wrote:

 I can offer web space, but there is still the problem that a
 front end
 needs to be coded up. I have the skills, but not the time.

 Jim,
 
 Thanks for the offer.

Please note that it's Phil's offer -- I'm not that generous :)
(Actually I don't have any web space to offer)

Jim

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