Re: redirect_to and beaker session?
On 5/15/07, Ben Bangert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Max Ischenko wrote: I have run into something like a bug. I'm using beaker's session and if my controller method issues a redirect the value I put in the session is not preserved. e.g.: session['page_message'] = message session.save() redirect_to(url_for('optima')) Anyone experienced this? What version of Pylons are you using? An earlier version (I believe 0.9.3 or so) had a bug where it wasn't saved. That was my logic error that caused session key to be popped out in __after__. Max. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Using Mako 2
Could someone help me out with this problem? Its a Mako template that does not render. Thanks Restarting Starting server in PID 2504. serving on 0.0.0.0:5000 view at http://127.0.0.1:5000 Debug at: http://localhost:5000/_debug/view/1179300848 Exception happened during processing of request from ('127.0.0.1', 1174) Traceback (most recent call last): File c:\python24\lib\site-packages\Paste-1.3-py2.4.egg\paste \httpserver.py, line 592, in process_request_in_thread self.finish_request(request, client_address) File C:\Python24\lib\SocketServer.py, line 254, in finish_request self.RequestHandlerClass(request, client_address, self) File C:\Python24\lib\SocketServer.py, line 521, in __init__ self.handle() File c:\python24\lib\site-packages\Paste-1.3-py2.4.egg\paste \httpserver.py, line 400, in handle BaseHTTPRequestHandler.handle(self) File C:\Python24\lib\BaseHTTPServer.py, line 316, in handle self.handle_one_request() File c:\python24\lib\site-packages\Paste-1.3-py2.4.egg\paste \httpserver.py, line 395, in handle_one_request self.wsgi_execute() File c:\python24\lib\site-packages\Paste-1.3-py2.4.egg\paste \httpserver.py, line 266, in wsgi_execute self.wsgi_start_response) File c:\python24\lib\site-packages\Paste-1.3-py2.4.egg\paste \cascade.py, lin e 92, in __call__ return self.apps[-1](environ, start_response) File c:\python24\lib\site-packages\Paste-1.3-py2.4.egg\paste \registry.py, li ne 327, in __call__ app_iter = self.application(environ, start_response) File c:\python24\lib\site-packages\Paste-1.3-py2.4.egg\paste \recursive.py, l ine 80, in __call__ return self.application(environ, start_response) File c:\python24\lib\site-packages\Paste-1.3-py2.4.egg\paste \errordocument.py , line 185, in __call__ app_iter = self.application(environ, change_response) File c:\python24\lib\site-packages\Paste-1.3-py2.4.egg\paste \evalexception\mi ddleware.py, line 186, in __call__ return self.respond(environ, start_response) File c:\python24\lib\site-packages\Pylons-0.9.5-py2.4.egg\pylons \error.py, l ine 269, in respond return debug_info.content() File c:\python24\lib\site-packages\Pylons-0.9.5-py2.4.egg\pylons \error.py, l ine 308, in content result = formatter_(self.exc_value) File c:\python24\lib\site-packages\Pylons-0.9.5-py2.4.egg\pylons \error.py, l ine 288, in mako_html_data return mako.exceptions.html_error_template().render()[610:-16] File c:\python24\lib\site-packages\mako-0.1.5-py2.4.egg\mako \template.py, li ne 109, in render return runtime._render(self, self.callable_, args, data) File c:\python24\lib\site-packages\mako-0.1.5-py2.4.egg\mako \runtime.py, lin e 286, in _render _render_context(template, callable_, context, *args, **_kwargs_for_callable( callable_, data)) File c:\python24\lib\site-packages\mako-0.1.5-py2.4.egg\mako \runtime.py, lin e 303, in _render_context _exec_template(inherit, lclcontext, args=args, kwargs=kwargs) File c:\python24\lib\site-packages\mako-0.1.5-py2.4.egg\mako \runtime.py, lin e 336, in _exec_template callable_(context, *args, **kwargs) File memory:0x124ed90, line 61, in render_body UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xef in position 0: ordinal not in range(128) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Using Mako 2
I did some poking around. This is the Pylons debug: CompileException: Could not read template using encoding of 'ascii'. Did you forget a magic encoding comment? in file 'D:\Projects \Pylons_projects\test\test\templates/standard.html' at line: 0 char: 0 1 !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd; 2 html 3 head 4 titleF#246;n/title 5 link rel=SHORTCUT ICON href=img/favicon.ico I tried saving the file as UTF-8, that die not help at all, the Paster server threw an exception : File memory:0x128a810, line 61, in render_body UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xef in position 0: ordinal not in range(128) Does someone have an idea on the workflow of constructing templaters for mako from plain HTML from designers? Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: myghty: Error(UnicodeDecodeError): 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3
Actually, yes, this flag has no effect when i was trying. But, we have resolved it. We save the .myt file into encoding utf-8, and add a line to the top of the myt file: # encoding: utf-8 The Myghty will add the line into the translated .myt.py file like this: # File: templates|base.myt CompilerID: Myghty.Lexer|Myghty.Compiler| (5, {'disable_unicode': False}) Timestamp: Wed May 16 16:12:52 2007 # -*- encoding: utf-8 -*- so, everything is ok. On Apr 5, 11:07 pm, Chris Shenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using Pylons-0l9.4.1 and Myghty-1.1. I can't seem to set encoding to utf-8 for Myghty or mod_python so that Pylons gets it. My app was working well but just started bombing, likely because one of my techs entered a name into a form which had non-ascii chars, and then the rendering in the display failed. When I run with debug enabled, I get a bit more info: Error: Error(UnicodeDecodeError): 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 15: ordinal not in range(128) File: /usr/local/clientproj/er/templates/vendor_show.myt line 11 Context: 8: trthClient Name/ththUpdated/ththCreated/th/tr 9: % for client in c.clients: 10: tr 11: tda href=%h.url_for('client_show', client_id=client.client_id)%%client.name%/a/td 12: td%client.ts_updated%/td 13: td%client.ts_created%/td 14: /tr Error - myghty.exception.Error: Error(UnicodeDecodeError?): 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 15: ordinal not in range(128) at /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Myghty-1.1-py2.4.egg/myghty/requestbuffer.py line 367 I've read up on this and found suggestions in http://www.myghty.org/docs/params.myt#parameters_output_encoding to set encoding in config/environment.py, which I've done: myghty = {} myghty['log_errors'] = True myghty['escapes'] = dict(l=webhelpers.auto_link, s=webhelpers.simple_format) myghty['output_encoding'] = 'utf-8' myghty['encoding_errors'] = 'htmlentityreplace' return pylons.config.Config(myghty, map, paths) but this didn't help. The error continued to complain about ascii codec so it looks like this setting above isn't getting seen by myghty. It also suggested setting this in the mod_python section of my Apache config, which I also tried: Location /er SetHandler mod_python Pythonhandler mod_python.wsgi PythonPath ['/usr/local/clientjob] + sys.path PythonOptionwsgi.application startup-bluecoat::app PythonOptionSCRIPT_NAME /er # 2007-04-05 setting in config/environment.py isnt' working? PythonOption MyghtyOutputEncoding utf-8 PythonOption MyghtyEncodingErrors htmlentityreplace /Location But this also had no effect, same complaint about ascii. http://pylonshq.com/docs/internationalization.htmlsaid I could do the following, again in config/environment.py: tmpl_options['myghty.output_encoding'] = 'UTF-8' but that file didn't know about the tmpl_options dict. I've seen similar suggestion to the above in a #pylons IRC transcript but none of these are working for me. Why is it still using an ascii codec when I've set it in two different places? I've tried removing the template cache .py and .pyc files but that had no effect. I was finally able to get things to work by creating .../site-packages/sitecustomize.py: import sys sys.setdefaultencoding('utf-8') and saw that one of my clients names was an O-umlaut. (Should I now expect surprises from other things, like the fact that I'm not using unicode strings in my python?) I'd really like to do this in Pylons or Myghty instead than site-wide and don't understand why the documented mechanisms don't work for me. Any suggestions? Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bug with beaker.cache ?
Michael Bayer wrote: has_key passes unit tests added in rev 70, using DBM files like your example, im fairly certain this worked in older versions so you might want to double check your cache expiry/etc. and/or upgrade to beaker trunk; fixed/added support for unicode keys in rev 71. I've updated to the Beaker-0.7dev_r71-py2.4.egg. I had to change some import statments in pylons/wsgiapp.py because SessionMiddleware and CacheMiddleware were moved over in beaker/middleware.py. Then start the Pylons' command-line shell: paster shell development.ini So the unicode fix works fine now. But I'm still having trouble with the has_key, eventhough, the behaviour has changed a bit: cache.get_cache(users).set_value(anonymous, bla) cache.get_cache(users).get_value(anonymous) 'bla' cache.get_cache(users).has_key(anonymous) False cache.get_cache(users).has_key(foo) # was previously returning 0 False anonymous in cache.get_cache(users) False foo in cache.get_cache(users) False This is raw from the command line. There's no expire set anywhere. And it all returns `False` even if a key really exists. [... much later ...] I have found out where my problem came from. It turns out that if I do the following, it works fine (inspired from your unit tests): _cache = cache.get_cache(users) _cache.set_value(anonymous, bla) _cache.get_value(anonymous) 'bla' _cache.has_key(anonymous) True _cache.has_key(foo) False anonymous in _cache True foo in _cache False I noticed that pylons cache object (beaker.cache.CacheManager) returns a different beaker.cache.Cache object everytime: cache.get_cache(users) beaker.cache.Cache object at 0x12543d0 cache.get_cache(users) beaker.cache.Cache object at 0x1244410 cache.get_cache(users) beaker.cache.Cache object at 0x1254490 cache.get_cache(users) beaker.cache.Cache object at 0x1254410 cache.get_cache(users) beaker.cache.Cache object at 0x1244410 cache.get_cache(users) beaker.cache.Cache object at 0x12543d0 cache.get_cache(users) beaker.cache.Cache object at 0x1254490 Actually, it seems to randomly return a previously returned object. It's pretty confusing. Doing a .get_value(anonymous) always returns the correct information, but the .has_key() method doesn't work. Am I missing something ? Regards, -- Alexandre CONRAD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Using Mako 2
On 16 mai, 10:03, voltron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did some poking around. This is the Pylons debug: CompileException: Could not read template using encoding of 'ascii'. Did you forget a magic encoding comment? in file 'D:\Projects \Pylons_projects\test\test\templates/standard.html' at line: 0 char: 0 1 !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd; 2 html 3 head 4 titleF#246;n/title 5 link rel=SHORTCUT ICON href=img/favicon.ico I tried saving the file as UTF-8, that die not help at all, the Paster server threw an exception : File memory:0x128a810, line 61, in render_body UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xef in position 0: ordinal not in range(128) You may want to reads this: http://docs.pythonweb.org/display/pylonscookbook/Using+Mako+templating+language Does someone have an idea on the workflow of constructing templaters for mako from plain HTML from designers? Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: myghty: Error(UnicodeDecodeError): 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3
Hi Steve, this is good information as it is a good workaround for the problem that I have been having with my Mako templates with Umlauts( see thread http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss/browse_thread/thread/4d278dee35c62519) I´m just worried that it seems like a hack and not the official way to set things in Pylons. On May 16, 10:18 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, yes, this flag has no effect when i was trying. But, we have resolved it. We save the .myt file into encoding utf-8, and add a line to the top of the myt file: # encoding: utf-8 The Myghty will add the line into the translated .myt.py file like this: # File: templates|base.myt CompilerID: Myghty.Lexer|Myghty.Compiler| (5, {'disable_unicode': False}) Timestamp: Wed May 16 16:12:52 2007 # -*- encoding: utf-8 -*- so, everything is ok. On Apr 5, 11:07 pm, Chris Shenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using Pylons-0l9.4.1 and Myghty-1.1. I can't seem to set encoding to utf-8 for Myghty or mod_python so that Pylons gets it. My app was working well but just started bombing, likely because one of my techs entered a name into a form which had non-ascii chars, and then the rendering in the display failed. When I run with debug enabled, I get a bit more info: Error: Error(UnicodeDecodeError): 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 15: ordinal not in range(128) File: /usr/local/clientproj/er/templates/vendor_show.myt line 11 Context: 8: trthClient Name/ththUpdated/ththCreated/th/tr 9: % for client in c.clients: 10: tr 11: tda href=%h.url_for('client_show', client_id=client.client_id)%%client.name%/a/td 12: td%client.ts_updated%/td 13: td%client.ts_created%/td 14: /tr Error - myghty.exception.Error: Error(UnicodeDecodeError?): 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 15: ordinal not in range(128) at /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Myghty-1.1-py2.4.egg/myghty/requestbuffer.py line 367 I've read up on this and found suggestions in http://www.myghty.org/docs/params.myt#parameters_output_encoding to set encoding in config/environment.py, which I've done: myghty = {} myghty['log_errors'] = True myghty['escapes'] = dict(l=webhelpers.auto_link, s=webhelpers.simple_format) myghty['output_encoding'] = 'utf-8' myghty['encoding_errors'] = 'htmlentityreplace' return pylons.config.Config(myghty, map, paths) but this didn't help. The error continued to complain about ascii codec so it looks like this setting above isn't getting seen by myghty. It also suggested setting this in the mod_python section of my Apache config, which I also tried: Location /er SetHandler mod_python Pythonhandler mod_python.wsgi PythonPath ['/usr/local/clientjob] + sys.path PythonOptionwsgi.application startup-bluecoat::app PythonOptionSCRIPT_NAME /er # 2007-04-05 setting in config/environment.py isnt' working? PythonOption MyghtyOutputEncoding utf-8 PythonOption MyghtyEncodingErrors htmlentityreplace /Location But this also had no effect, same complaint about ascii. http://pylonshq.com/docs/internationalization.htmlsaidI could do the following, again in config/environment.py: tmpl_options['myghty.output_encoding'] = 'UTF-8' but that file didn't know about the tmpl_options dict. I've seen similar suggestion to the above in a #pylons IRC transcript but none of these are working for me. Why is it still using an ascii codec when I've set it in two different places? I've tried removing the template cache .py and .pyc files but that had no effect. I was finally able to get things to work by creating .../site-packages/sitecustomize.py: import sys sys.setdefaultencoding('utf-8') and saw that one of my clients names was an O-umlaut. (Should I now expect surprises from other things, like the fact that I'm not using unicode strings in my python?) I'd really like to do this in Pylons or Myghty instead than site-wide and don't understand why the documented mechanisms don't work for me. Any suggestions? Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Using Mako 2
Thanks Bruno, I have read that. In a thread a few days ago I asked questions about it, see this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss/browse_thread/thread/bceff9ef23772e5d/35aa3a21e4ce3e43?lnk=stq=rnum=30#35aa3a21e4ce3e43 The thing is, in the thread, 2 people mentioned that it was unnecessary, which is true when one does not use umlauts On May 16, 12:14 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 mai, 10:03, voltron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did some poking around. This is the Pylons debug: CompileException: Could not read template using encoding of 'ascii'. Did you forget a magic encoding comment? in file 'D:\Projects \Pylons_projects\test\test\templates/standard.html' at line: 0 char: 0 1 !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd; 2 html 3 head 4 titleF#246;n/title 5 link rel=SHORTCUT ICON href=img/favicon.ico I tried saving the file as UTF-8, that die not help at all, the Paster server threw an exception : File memory:0x128a810, line 61, in render_body UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xef in position 0: ordinal not in range(128) You may want to reads this:http://docs.pythonweb.org/display/pylonscookbook/Using+Mako+templatin... Does someone have an idea on the workflow of constructing templaters for mako from plain HTML from designers? Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: myghty: Error(UnicodeDecodeError): 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3
On 5/16/07, voltron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steve, this is good information as it is a good workaround for the problem that I have been having with my Mako templates with Umlauts( see thread http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss/browse_thread/thread/4d278dee35c62519) I´m just worried that it seems like a hack and not the official way to set things in Pylons. Maybe it is not officially declared in Pylons, but it is for sure the correct way to set the encoding for a Python file, in general. But working with UTF-8 and Unicode can sometimes be a real pain in Python. I resorted to setting the site.py on all sites I manage to UTF-8, but it is a very cumbersome solution. Jens --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: myghty: Error(UnicodeDecodeError): 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3
Oh I did not know about that, thanks Jens. Excuse my newbiness, but could you explain your method further? where is site.py? Thanks On May 16, 1:13 pm, Jens Hoffrichter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/16/07, voltron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steve, this is good information as it is a good workaround for the problem that I have been having with my Mako templates with Umlauts( see threadhttp://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss/browse_thread/thread/4d...) I´m just worried that it seems like a hack and not the official way to set things in Pylons. Maybe it is not officially declared in Pylons, but it is for sure the correct way to set the encoding for a Python file, in general. But working with UTF-8 and Unicode can sometimes be a real pain in Python. I resorted to setting the site.py on all sites I manage to UTF-8, but it is a very cumbersome solution. Jens --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Pylons (Kid? Paste?) converting my XHTML to HTML
Sorry to spam the list, but eventually I resolved the problem - for future readers I suggest updating the modules Pylons, Paste, PasteScript Kid and TurboKid to the latest versions. For some reason PasteScript didn't want to update to 1.3 through easy_install -U so downloading the source and running python setup.py install and manually removing 1.1 did the trick. Ben was right in that format=xhtml is the way to do it, but some combination of the different modules I had meant that did not work. I'm guessing it is related to my earlier install of TurboGears since some of the modules are shared, so I ended up with muddled versions. Cheers, Ben On May 14, 9:12 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In addition to the above I changed middleware.py to have the following: config.template_engines.pop()#remove myghty kidopts = {'kid.outputformat':'xhtml','kid.assume_encoding':'utf-8', 'kid.encoding':'utf-8'} config.add_template_engine('kid', 'familiarsserver.templates', kidopts) according to the example athttp://pylonshq.com/docs/0.9.5/class-pylons.config.Config.html The 'kid.outputformat':'xhtml' is a turbogears option for TurboKid which I see is the format Pylons also uses, so I presume it would be passed on to Kid in the same way. However, this still has no effect. Even changing outputformat to xml also has no effect. Is there something I'm still missing? Maybe I'm using that outputformat option wrong? Or a poor configuration is causing it to fall back on html as a default? I'm pretty lost here, but I think I'm closer, and also think it's something in how the templating options are set up. Cheers again Ben On May 14, 3:18 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheers for the suggestion but it doesn't seem to have any effect. I realise I'm probably posting in the wrong group, but I'd rather let Pylons take care of Kid so any Pylons solution is going to be easier (rather than wrangling Kid directly and bypassing Pylons here). I'm confident it's probably me not configuring something correctly... I've noticed that I get an error if Kid detects I've entered invalid XML in my template file. I presume that this validation process must be close to the bit that is doing the conversion. I input an invalid tag and get the following stack trace: The function call is, as suggested, render_response(template,format=xhtml) http://pylonshq.com/pasties/259 To my inexperienced eyes it looks like from line 45 Kid is parsing my template and running the python code, so I presume it is somewhere around there that the conversion happens, but I can't see where. For reference, my middleware.py uses this line to tell pylons to use Kid: config.init_app(global_conf, app_conf, package='myapplication', template_engine='kid') I notice this line in environment.py: # The following template options are passed to your template engines tmpl_options = {} Adding 'format':'xhtml' doesn't make a difference here either. There is nothing in development.ini that refers to Kid or templating options Sorry again about posting this to the pylons group but I'm convinced there are some Pylons configuration options that might fix it if only I knew where to look :) Cheers for patience, Ben On May 1, 6:31 pm, Ben Bangert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 1, 2007, at 8:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All my kid templates work great, but they seem to be parsed through some kind of filter (pylons is using HTMLSerializer from Kid maybe?) that converts all my tags into HTML 4.01 versions: title becomes TITLE and img src=blah / becomes IMG SRC=blah what is it that is doing this? Is there some way for me to switch it to spit outXHTML? or just to preferably leave my code as I wrote it? It worries me that the server is going through this extra conversion process for every page it renders. I believe this is Kid doing that. Pylons has no output filtering of its own. You probably need to specify a default format for Kid of xhtml(though I'm pretty certain that the Pylons Kid defaults already set the format toxhtml...). Alternatively, you can specify format='xhtml' to render_response or render which should be passed to Kid. HTH, Ben --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: myghty: Error(UnicodeDecodeError): 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3
Cool, thanks! On May 16, 2:26 pm, Jens Hoffrichter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Voltron, On 5/16/07, voltron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh I did not know about that, thanks Jens. Excuse my newbiness, but could you explain your method further? where is site.py? The declaration for working with encodings in Python files is described here, in PEP 263: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0263/ The site.py is normally located in your base library directory, for me on Debian Linux it is /usr/lib/python2.4, or maybe even /etc/python2.4/site.py Search for the string ascii in the file, and then you can see why it is very hard to change the default encoding after this file is executed. And site.py is automagically executed everytime you start python ;) But, as I said, it is cumbersome, because you must have access to the site.py file, and this isn't guaranteed, especially for a shared hoster. There exists another solution, at least for normal python applications: You can place a file called sitecustomize.py in the directory of your application (or maybe in the first library path for it, I'm not sure, but that is normally the application path), where you can put in something like that: snip import sys sys.setdefaultencoding(UTF-8) snip This works as well. I normally don't use it, and especially haven't used it with pylons (because I'm actually on this list because I had a Myghty caching question, and somehow stayed ;) ), but this is the only solution python applications compiled with py2exe, as you have no other method of setting the site.py there. But, as I said, I don't know how it would work in pylons, maybe someone with a broader knowledge in pylons can look at it. Jens --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Iteration in Mako templates
nevermind table % for item in c.links: tr td${item}/td /tr % endfor /table On May 16, 4:02 pm, voltron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I tnink this is for the Pylons group and not Mako, if I´m mistaken, I apologize given: c.links =[link1, link2, link3] table % for item in c.links: tr tdc.links[item]}/td /tr % endfor /table How do I iterate over the list? My code above does not work. Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Iteration in Mako templates
You do have syntax error at: tdc.links[item]}/td should be: td${c.links[item]}/td I believe this is what you want... assuming that c.links is being declared in your controller! #controller def some_action(self): c.links = [link1,link2,link3] return render_response('/some_template.mak') #some_template.mak table % for item in c.links: tr td${item}/td /tr % endfor /table voltron wrote: Hi, I tnink this is for the Pylons group and not Mako, if I´m mistaken, I apologize given: c.links =[link1, link2, link3] table % for item in c.links: tr tdc.links[item]}/td /tr % endfor /table How do I iterate over the list? My code above does not work. Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Iteration in Mako templates
voltron wrote: nevermind table % for item in c.links: tr td${item}/td /tr % endfor /table Nothing to do about your initial problem, but by reading your HTML, I can only suggest that you'd probably prefer using HTML unordered lists ul, list items li and format the output with CSS instead of using tables. ul % for item in c.links: li${item}/li % endfor /ul I like to point this link once in a while: http://hotdesign.com/seybold/everything.html Regards, -- Alexandre CONRAD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Iteration in Mako templates
You do have syntax error at: tdc.links[item]}/td should be: td${c.links[item]}/td I believe this is what you want... assuming that c.links is being declared in your controller! #controller def some_action(self): c.links = [link1,link2,link3] return render_response('/some_template.mak') #some_template.mak table % for item in c.links: tr td${item}/td /tr % endfor /table voltron wrote: Hi, I tnink this is for the Pylons group and not Mako, if I´m mistaken, I apologize given: c.links =[link1, link2, link3] table % for item in c.links: tr tdc.links[item]}/td /tr % endfor /table How do I iterate over the list? My code above does not work. Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Iteration in Mako templates
Yes, actually, the code which I first posted is from the tutorial, my real production code looks like this: div class=submenu_center ul class=submenu % for item in c.sublinks: lia href=${item}/ class=level_submenu${item}/ a/li % endfor /ul /div Thank you all for the tips On May 16, 4:20 pm, Alexandre CONRAD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: voltron wrote: nevermind table % for item in c.links: tr td${item}/td /tr % endfor /table Nothing to do about your initial problem, but by reading your HTML, I can only suggest that you'd probably prefer using HTML unordered lists ul, list items li and format the output with CSS instead of using tables. ul % for item in c.links: li${item}/li % endfor /ul I like to point this link once in a while: http://hotdesign.com/seybold/everything.html Regards, -- Alexandre CONRAD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: paster shell not available
On May 16, 2007, at 11:09 AM, Max Ischenko wrote: Here is the question: where is paster shell command hooked in? When I attempt to use paster shell in my current project I got this: $ paster shell development.ini Command shell not known Known commands: Newly created Pylons projects have this functionality working so I guess I need to upgrade something in my existing project to get this command. Make sure there's a file called paster_plugins.txt inside your egg_info directory with, at least, the following lines: Pylons PasteScript Alberto --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Issues with @validate decorator
Hi all, I see there's discussion about the issues with the @validate decorator in the tracker. I've come across a few problems myself in the last few weeks, so hopefully I can contribute here: - In order to use multiple fields, you need to set variable_decode to True. This is probably fair enough, and it probably ought to be the default. It does have other side effects for field names containing '-' or '.' Making variable_decode True by default is certainly not a backwards-compatible change. - In order to use htmlfill with multiples, params also needs to be mapped from a MultiDict. At present htmlfill called from the decorator only selects the first value for fields with multiple values. I think this can be fixed by passing decoded instead of params to htmlfill. - It's worth noting that line 98 tests for the type of params, and if it is a UnicodeMultiDict decodes the page to unicode. So any playing around with params needs to preserve its type. This doesn't feel right to me. - Specifying separate validators (as opposed to a schema) fails if no value is passed for a multiple. I suspect that line 90: validator.to_python(decoded[field] or None) should read validator.to_python(decoded.get(field, None)) Regards, Graham --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Calling in-line classes with routes
Given: # snippet from gameolymp.lib.base import * class NavigationController(BaseController): def index(self): return render_response('base') class InnerClass(BaseController): def index(self): return Response('innner') How would I route the inner class? map.connect('spiele', '', controller='navigation.innerclass', action='index' ) does not work. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Iteration in Mako templates
The choice between CSS 'tables' and HTML 'tables' is purely a matter of opinion. Just to point out a totally different point-of-view, please see: http://www.decloak.com/Dev/CSSTables/CSS_Tables_01.aspx Alexandre CONRAD wrote: voltron wrote: nevermind table % for item in c.links: tr td${item}/td /tr % endfor /table Nothing to do about your initial problem, but by reading your HTML, I can only suggest that you'd probably prefer using HTML unordered lists ul, list items li and format the output with CSS instead of using tables. ul % for item in c.links: li${item}/li % endfor /ul I like to point this link once in a while: http://hotdesign.com/seybold/everything.html Regards, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Calling in-line classes with routes
Nevermind On May 16, 4:58 pm, voltron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given: # snippet from gameolymp.lib.base import * class NavigationController(BaseController): def index(self): return render_response('base') class InnerClass(BaseController): def index(self): return Response('innner') How would I route the inner class? map.connect('spiele', '', controller='navigation.innerclass', action='index' ) does not work. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Iteration in Mako templates
On May 16, 2007, at 12:34 PM, Dan wrote: The choice between CSS 'tables' and HTML 'tables' is purely a matter of opinion. Just to point out a totally different point-of-view, please see: http://www.decloak.com/Dev/CSSTables/CSS_Tables_01.aspx theres an argument to use table tags for sure...but that guy's nuts. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Using Mako 2
On May 16, 2007, at 1:03 AM, voltron wrote: I did some poking around. This is the Pylons debug: CompileException: Could not read template using encoding of 'ascii'. Did you forget a magic encoding comment? in file 'D:\Projects \Pylons_projects\test\test\templates/standard.html' at line: 0 char: 0 1 !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd; 2 html 3 head 4 titleF#246;n/title 5 link rel=SHORTCUT ICON href=img/favicon.ico You definitely need a magic encoding comment because there's non- ascii characters in your template. I tried saving the file as UTF-8, that die not help at all, the Paster server threw an exception : Did you include the magic encoding comment when you did this? Some editors will also use the utf-8 bom at the beginning of a file to identify mark the file as being in utf-8 (so a magic encoding comment isn't required). Python supports the utf-8 bom for .py files, however mako only started supporting identifying the utf-8 bom in the latest version (trunk). File memory:0x128a810, line 61, in render_body UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xef in position 0: ordinal not in range(128) Does someone have an idea on the workflow of constructing templaters for mako from plain HTML from designers? -- Philip Jenvey --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Iteration in Mako templates
On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 14:10 -0400, Michael Bayer wrote: On May 16, 2007, at 12:34 PM, Dan wrote: The choice between CSS 'tables' and HTML 'tables' is purely a matter of opinion. Just to point out a totally different point-of-view, please see: http://www.decloak.com/Dev/CSSTables/CSS_Tables_01.aspx theres an argument to use table tags for sure...but that guy's nuts. Nuts is being kind. Cliff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Iteration in Mako templates
Lol. The other article was just as fanatical, using cartoon images to persuade the reader into thinking CSS was the best thing since 'sliced bread'. To be fair, I'd say they are both nuts. Michael Bayer wrote: On May 16, 2007, at 12:34 PM, Dan wrote: The choice between CSS 'tables' and HTML 'tables' is purely a matter of opinion. Just to point out a totally different point-of-view, please see: http://www.decloak.com/Dev/CSSTables/CSS_Tables_01.aspx theres an argument to use table tags for sure...but that guy's nuts. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Issues with @validate decorator
On May 16, 2007, at 7:51 AM, Graham Stratton wrote: Hi all, I see there's discussion about the issues with the @validate decorator in the tracker. I've come across a few problems myself in the last few weeks, so hopefully I can contribute here: - In order to use multiple fields, you need to set variable_decode to True. This is probably fair enough, and it probably ought to be the default. It does have other side effects for field names containing '-' or '.' Making variable_decode True by default is certainly not a backwards-compatible change. - In order to use htmlfill with multiples, params also needs to be mapped from a MultiDict. At present htmlfill called from the decorator only selects the first value for fields with multiple values. I think this can be fixed by passing decoded instead of params to htmlfill. Decoded as in variable_decode=True again, right? Defaulting variable_decode to True was brought up a long time ago but it never happened. I don't think everyone (at least I didn't) realized there were so many cases in which formencode doesn't work with MultiDicts unless variable_decode is enabled. The fact that variable_decode=True fixes the MultiDict problems is more of a coincidence. The variable_decode function is supposed to flatten/de-nest a normal dictionary with '-' and '.' separators, the fact that it correctly flattens a MultiDict is almost a side effect. The flattening it does is essentially the same result as having called MultiDict.mixed(). validate passing MultiDict.mixed() to formencode would be an even better solution than defaulting variable_decode=True. The qualm I have with doing any of these is that Pylons/Paste users that aren't using the validate decorator need to know to use MultiDict.mixed() or variable_decode=True. It's reasonable to require variable_decode=True if you're using the '-' and '.' nesting syntax. But if you're not, I'd rather MultiDicts Just Worked(tm). I spoke to Ian (who I've CCed) about MultiDicts and formencode a while ago. I got the impression from him that he wanted MultiDicts to Just Work(tm) with formencode. Ian, what's your opinion on all this? - It's worth noting that line 98 tests for the type of params, and if it is a UnicodeMultiDict decodes the page to unicode. So any playing around with params needs to preserve its type. This doesn't feel right to me. What doesn't feel right exactly? - Specifying separate validators (as opposed to a schema) fails if no value is passed for a multiple. I suspect that line 90: validator.to_python(decoded[field] or None) should read validator.to_python(decoded.get(field, None)) You're right, in fact this should probably be a getall() instead of a normal get() (depending on how we solve variable_decode issue anyway). Regards, Graham -- Philip Jenvey --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Iteration in Mako templates
dan To be fair, I'd say they are both nuts. Hmmm... I wonder if they are friends? ;-) -- Skip Montanaro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Issues with @validate decorator
Philip Jenvey wrote: On May 16, 2007, at 7:51 AM, Graham Stratton wrote: Hi all, I see there's discussion about the issues with the @validate decorator in the tracker. I've come across a few problems myself in the last few weeks, so hopefully I can contribute here: - In order to use multiple fields, you need to set variable_decode to True. This is probably fair enough, and it probably ought to be the default. It does have other side effects for field names containing '-' or '.' Making variable_decode True by default is certainly not a backwards-compatible change. - In order to use htmlfill with multiples, params also needs to be mapped from a MultiDict. At present htmlfill called from the decorator only selects the first value for fields with multiple values. I think this can be fixed by passing decoded instead of params to htmlfill. Decoded as in variable_decode=True again, right? Defaulting variable_decode to True was brought up a long time ago but it never happened. I don't think everyone (at least I didn't) realized there were so many cases in which formencode doesn't work with MultiDicts unless variable_decode is enabled. The fact that variable_decode=True fixes the MultiDict problems is more of a coincidence. The variable_decode function is supposed to flatten/de-nest a normal dictionary with '-' and '.' separators, the fact that it correctly flattens a MultiDict is almost a side effect. The flattening it does is essentially the same result as having called MultiDict.mixed(). validate passing MultiDict.mixed() to formencode would be an even better solution than defaulting variable_decode=True. The qualm I have with doing any of these is that Pylons/Paste users that aren't using the validate decorator need to know to use MultiDict.mixed() or variable_decode=True. It's reasonable to require variable_decode=True if you're using the '-' and '.' nesting syntax. But if you're not, I'd rather MultiDicts Just Worked(tm). I spoke to Ian (who I've CCed) about MultiDicts and formencode a while ago. I got the impression from him that he wanted MultiDicts to Just Work(tm) with formencode. Ian, what's your opinion on all this? Yeah, I think that's reasonable. Really FormEncode is intended to work with, um, params.mixed()? FormEncode could just check for that attribute in schemas and call it if it's there. Ian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Error with myghty request processing unicode
On May 15, 2007, at 3:22 PM, Victor Kryukov wrote: Hi group, I've just installed pylons yesterday, so I apologize if the question I'm asking is too trivial. Here it is: I tried to redefine TemplateController as suggested in it's documentation string: from ljeye.lib.base import * import myghty.exception class TemplateController(BaseController): def view(self, url): try: return render_response('/'+url) except myghty.exception.ComponentNotFound: return Response(code=404) I also placed file called 'help.myt' under /templates. Now, when I'm trying to access localhost:5000/help.myt, I'm getting the following error: Error(AttributeError): 'unicode' object has no attribute 'is_file_component' The reason for this error lies in the way Myghty handles unicode components: Error: Error(AttributeError): 'unicode' object has no attribute 'is_file_component' File: /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Myghty-1.1-py2.5.egg/myghty/ request.py line 227 Context: 224: try: 225: if type(component) == types.StringType: 226: component = self.fetch_lead_component(component) 227: elif component.is_file_component(): 228: self.request_path = component.path 229: 230: self.request_component = component For some reason, component in my case is u'help.myt', and hence the type(component)==types.StringType comparison failes. Note that I'm using freshly downloaded 0.9.5 Pylons, python2.5 etc., and I'm just playing with freshly created pylons project. I would appreciate if you could clarify that for me. This is a funny new bug with the TemplateController and the latest version of routes required by Pylons 0.9.5. Routes now gives you back unicode values -- in this case the url passed to the TemplateController's action is unicode. And unfortunately Myghty has trouble with a component name in unicode. There's a few ways to solve this: o (the easiest) convert the url back to a string yourself: return render_response('/'+str(url)) or even: return render_response('/'+url.encode('utf-8')) o upgrade to the experimental routes trunk that offers a couple ways of turning off unicode: - switch the encoding setting to None in your mapper: mapper = Mapper() mapper.encoding = None - switch the encoding off for the particular route: map.connect('*url', controller='template', action='view', _encoding=None) I've logged a ticket for it here: http://pylonshq.com/project/ pylonshq/ticket/242 -- Philip Jenvey --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Issues with @validate decorator
Hello, On 5/16/07, Graham Stratton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I see there's discussion about the issues with the @validate decorator in the tracker. I've come across a few problems myself in the last few weeks, so hopefully I can contribute here: I have another @validate issue (totally unrelated to the discussion): When there are errors and form is redisplayed to the user how the template can tell it (to display something like there were errors, please correct and resubmit)? From what I gather, htmlfill only fills individual fields' placeholders but there is no form-wide one. Am i mistaken? If not, why aren't errors passed as c.form_errors or something? Max. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---