Time out beaker session?
Hi All, Is it possible to make the beaker session time out / delete itself after a period of inactivity? I'd like it so that when a user doesn't use the site for x amount of time the session is deleted, forcing the user to re log in [user name is stored in the session]. Many thanks, Jules --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: pyjamas + pylons
lkcl wrote: [ a lot of good stuff] FWIW, here's another few cents about pyjamas, gleaned from using it for a couple of weeks. I found Ian Bicking's JSON-RPC example a good starting point for doing the rpc stuff with pyjamas and repoze.bfg, so I imagine it will work similarly well in pylons. http://pythonpaste.org/webob/jsonrpc-example.html If you want to use all the batteries included with python, you need to use that code server side. Protect your rpc methods with authentication, authorization and XSS safeguards. For auth/auth, repoze.who/what are definitely usable. The html that pyjamas/GWT generates tends to use table-based layout, very ugly for those of us trying to get away from that. But it is liberally sprinkled with uniformly-named class attributes, so styling can still be done with css. If you think user interface rather than web page, this is really not too bad a way to go. In pyjamas, you can maybe use your favorite external javascript libraries. Sometimes it is as easy as import thatotherlibrary.js Then, if thatotherlibrary exposes a function fribble, you can use it in a python function or method def xfribble(obj1,obj2): JS(return fribble(obj1,obj2);) Several python syntactical constructs are not currently available in pyjamas. At compile time, pyjamas will tell you if you do something it cannot handle. Generally, if you keep your python code simple and readable, it will work fine. Compiling is pretty fast. pyjamas does not currently minimize or obfuscate its output javascript, so your javascript debugger will give you fairly useful hints about what might be going wrong. Fix your python code, recompile, try again. The widget set available in pyjamas is pretty basic. You can compose fancier widgets from the basic ui objects. You can also snoop in the various libraries folks have built for GWT, and rewrite the java code in python, if you do not want to reinvent the wheel too much. I have not seen anything easier to work with to generate a complex user interface for a web app. Any widget can request data from the server and handle the response. This is a very nice way to make things happen. - Jim Washington --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
is there a way to call render with string teamplates?
ie -- instead of passing in a file, passing in a string? the only way i can think of this right now is with a tmpfile, and i'd like to avoid that. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: pyjamas + pylons
Easy to work with is questionable when the first thing you encounter is an error during easy install of pyjamas. The menu widget displays incorrectly when you scroll the page (a basic widget and pretty much unusable) and there is no rich text editor. AFAIK no one is using pyjamas for a production site. There is almost no active development or community. The documentation is lacking (to say the least). So there is a lot of potential but this project still needs a lot of work to be usable for production, unless you want to deal with all the issues yourself. On Feb 6, 5:31 am, Jim Washington jwas...@vt.edu wrote: lkcl wrote: [ a lot of good stuff] FWIW, here's another few cents about pyjamas, gleaned from using it for a couple of weeks. I found Ian Bicking's JSON-RPC example a good starting point for doing the rpc stuff with pyjamas and repoze.bfg, so I imagine it will work similarly well in pylons.http://pythonpaste.org/webob/jsonrpc-example.html If you want to use all the batteries included with python, you need to use that code server side. Protect your rpc methods with authentication, authorization and XSS safeguards. For auth/auth, repoze.who/what are definitely usable. The html that pyjamas/GWT generates tends to use table-based layout, very ugly for those of us trying to get away from that. But it is liberally sprinkled with uniformly-named class attributes, so styling can still be done with css. If you think user interface rather than web page, this is really not too bad a way to go. In pyjamas, you can maybe use your favorite external javascript libraries. Sometimes it is as easy as import thatotherlibrary.js Then, if thatotherlibrary exposes a function fribble, you can use it in a python function or method def xfribble(obj1,obj2): JS(return fribble(obj1,obj2);) Several python syntactical constructs are not currently available in pyjamas. At compile time, pyjamas will tell you if you do something it cannot handle. Generally, if you keep your python code simple and readable, it will work fine. Compiling is pretty fast. pyjamas does not currently minimize or obfuscate its output javascript, so your javascript debugger will give you fairly useful hints about what might be going wrong. Fix your python code, recompile, try again. The widget set available in pyjamas is pretty basic. You can compose fancier widgets from the basic ui objects. You can also snoop in the various libraries folks have built for GWT, and rewrite the java code in python, if you do not want to reinvent the wheel too much. I have not seen anything easier to work with to generate a complex user interface for a web app. Any widget can request data from the server and handle the response. This is a very nice way to make things happen. - Jim Washington --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
storing formattable strings in the config file?
i want to store something in my config file like foo %(bar)s normally in python, i would do this foo %%(bar)s to escape the string interpolation. paste doesn't like that. anyone have a suggestion. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: is there a way to call render with string teamplates?
Hello,
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Jonathan Vanasco jonat...@findmeon.comwrote:
ie -- instead of passing in a file, passing in a string?
the only way i can think of this right now is with a tmpfile, and i'd
like to avoid that.
I'm pretty sure that methods must return string and that's the only
requirement on them.
That basically means you can use template engines directly. If it is mako
something like that should work:
from mako.template import Template
print Template(hello ${data}!).render(data=world)
Example was shamelessly take from first page of
http://www.makotemplates.org/.
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Re: is there a way to call render with string teamplates?
Previously Dalius Dobravolskas wrote: Hello, On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Jonathan Vanasco jonat...@findmeon.comwrote: ie -- instead of passing in a file, passing in a string? the only way i can think of this right now is with a tmpfile, and i'd like to avoid that. I'm pretty sure that methods must return string and that's the only requirement on them. Or string-like things. If you want to have the option of doing transformation on the output rendering to XML doms and returning repoze.xmliter (see http://repoze.org/viewcvs/repoze.xmliter/trunk/README.txt?rev=2839view=auto) instances is quite interesting. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.netIt is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
beaker_cache query_args when duplicate queries are in
i've got a controller that will accept multiple same name args in the query string ?id=10id=100id=50 it looks like beaker_cache does not interpret these as different query strings, so ?id=10id=100id=50 will return the same as ?id=10id=100id=20id=50 any recommended workarounds for this? on a tangential note, does beaker_cache support keying on a controllers 'action' as well as a 'query_arg' ? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: is there a way to call render with string teamplates?
ok, this has given me ideas! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: is there a way to call render with string teamplates?
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Dalius Dobravolskas
dalius.dobravols...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Jonathan Vanasco jonat...@findmeon.com
wrote:
ie -- instead of passing in a file, passing in a string?
the only way i can think of this right now is with a tmpfile, and i'd
like to avoid that.
I'm pretty sure that methods must return string and that's the only
requirement on them.
That basically means you can use template engines directly. If it is mako
something like that should work:
from mako.template import Template
print Template(hello ${data}!).render(data=world)
Example was shamelessly take from first page of
http://www.makotemplates.org/.
Yes, the biggest issue is whether the template engine accepts input
from a string. I didn't realize Mako did. I had to consider this
when I was building that upgrade to Buffet that didn't end up being
used. My research showed that some engines have flexible input
formats, while others are more narrow.
render_mako() should really be considered a convenience function. It
encapsulates some repetitive steps, and that's it's only purpose.
It's not intended to enforce some API that you have to use. It's just
that the render_* functions shipped with Pylons have to use a common
API to avoid confusing newbies. The most commonly-requested change is
to pass a dict of template values rather than using 'c'. You can
certainly do that (although I personally like 'c' better).
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Re: monit + pylons under Ubuntu 8
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Jonathan Vanasco jonat...@findmeon.comwrote: I'm new to ubuntu, and their syntax for scripts seems to differ from all the examples i've seen floating in the pylons community ( ie. lots of errors ) One thing that might help, is that by default, Ubuntu isn't using 'bash' for /bin/sh; it's using 'dash'. I've found this borks some of the init.d scripts that I move from one server to another. I don't know what best-practices are for /etc/init.d and pylons, which is the google search that brought me to your message. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: monit + pylons under Ubuntu 8
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Matt Feifarek matt.feifa...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Jonathan Vanasco jonat...@findmeon.com wrote: I'm new to ubuntu, and their syntax for scripts seems to differ from all the examples i've seen floating in the pylons community ( ie. lots of errors ) One thing that might help, is that by default, Ubuntu isn't using 'bash' for /bin/sh; it's using 'dash'. I've found this borks some of the init.d scripts that I move from one server to another. I don't know what best-practices are for /etc/init.d and pylons, which is the google search that brought me to your message. Every distro has different init scripts. Ubuntu uses different functions than Red Hat, which uses different functions than Gentoo, etc. Your best bet is to copy the smallest existing init script on your system and modify it. As for init scripts for Pylons, Pylons is not a daemon. I assume you mean an init script for paster. Although the OP asked for a script for Monit, which according to its website is a daemon manager. I use another daemon manager, Supervisor, with the attached Ubuntu script. (Note that I have Supervisor installed in its own virtualenv /usr/local/venv-supervisor.) It was written for Ubuntu 7.04. I will probably work on 8.10 without changes. (I'll know next week when I finish setting up my 8.10 server. :) -- Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- supervisor Description: Binary data
HOWTO: Installing Pylons on Hardy
Hello, I recently had to do this for a customer. It wasn't as easy as it should be, but it was hardly difficult. I have blogged it here if any are interested: http://www.commandprompt.com/blogs/joshua_drake/2009/02/configuring_pylons_on_ubuntu_hardy/ I do make some assumptions in the document but anyone reasonably familiar with how to use a web browser and their own system configuration shouldn't have any problems. Comments welcome. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake -- PostgreSQL - XMPP: jdr...@jabber.postgresql.org Consulting, Development, Support, Training 503-667-4564 - http://www.commandprompt.com/ The PostgreSQL Company, serving since 1997 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: monit + pylons under Ubuntu 8
wow , i totally forgot about this... its been 8 months! i ended up making a shell script to wrap start/stop/restart on paster, and use monit to trigger that i'll post it soon! and i'll look into your supervisor info. in practice, monit is less of a daemon manager than it is a daemon monitor. it sends you emails and restarts services. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: is there a way to call render with string teamplates?
well, for this purpose I know that the templates will ALWAYS be mako -- its a failsafe built-in template for a distributed system that is only used if not overridden. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Beginners tutorial broken
Hello, I created my HelloWorld application which suggests I go to the Beginners Tutorial. The link it provides is: http://pylonshq.com/docs/en/0.9.7/gettingstarted.html Which is broken. Joshua D. Drake -- PostgreSQL - XMPP: jdr...@jabber.postgresql.org Consulting, Development, Support, Training 503-667-4564 - http://www.commandprompt.com/ The PostgreSQL Company, serving since 1997 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beginners tutorial broken
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Joshua D. Drake j...@commandprompt.com wrote: Hello, I created my HelloWorld application which suggests I go to the Beginners Tutorial. The link it provides is: http://pylonshq.com/docs/en/0.9.7/gettingstarted.html Which is broken. I too a quick look, and the index.html in the application template is out of date, which probably means the other links on the page should be reviewed too. There is a Getting Started page if you remove the .html suffix (http://pylonshq.com/docs/en/0.9.7/gettingstarted), although I think it has changed beyond what the index page anticipated. In that the Getting Started page tells how to install Pylons and create the hello app, but if you've created the hello app you've obviously already done that. By the way, what's the status of the QuickWiki tutorial? The website still has the 0.9.6 version. Last I heard two people were working on updates, which had to be merged. -- Mike Orr sluggos...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: storing formattable strings in the config file?
maybe foo \x25(bar)s On Feb 6, 11:11 am, Jonathan Vanasco jonat...@findmeon.com wrote: i want to store something in my config file like foo %(bar)s normally in python, i would do this foo %%(bar)s to escape the string interpolation. paste doesn't like that. anyone have a suggestion. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: beaker_cache query_args when duplicate queries are in
yes, you're right it's totally weird that the key beaker_cache uses for caching controller actios, doesn't include the action in it by default. My solution was to write my own decorator. On Feb 6, 1:52 pm, eleith ele...@gmail.com wrote: i've got a controller that will accept multiple same name args in the query string ?id=10id=100id=50 it looks like beaker_cache does not interpret these as different query strings, so ?id=10id=100id=50 will return the same as ?id=10id=100id=20id=50 any recommended workarounds for this? on a tangential note, does beaker_cache support keying on a controllers 'action' as well as a 'query_arg' ? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: HOWTO: Installing Pylons on Hardy
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Joshua D. Drake j...@commandprompt.com wrote: Hello, I recently had to do this for a customer. It wasn't as easy as it should be, but it was hardly difficult. I have blogged it here if any are interested: http://www.commandprompt.com/blogs/joshua_drake/2009/02/configuring_pylons_on_ubuntu_hardy/ I do make some assumptions in the document but anyone reasonably familiar with how to use a web browser and their own system configuration shouldn't have any problems. Comments welcome. Can't figure out how to comment on your blog It seems that installation/configuration of apache is what is hard/painful. Installing pylons is pretty straightforward on ubuntu/gentoo/macos -matt --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pylons-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
