Re: Documentation for begginers
Hi, Mike... On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 08:46:20PM -0800, Mikeroz wrote: I've just started to have some fun with pylons and I've got a question - what's wrong with the documentation? I mean - it's cool because it's there but there's almost no tutorials and stuff... is someone working on it? Or maybe someone could give us (begginers) some links to them? :) When I started playing with Pylons many moons ago I found myself in the same situation. And documentation was even worse back then. It's nice that the wiki contains documentation on many topics. But there's nothing like a print it out and let it lie around at the toilet tutorial so that's what I started working on. It was delayed because there were some changes between 0.9.4 and 0.9.6 that I wanted to document properly and during the same time Michael Bayer was bored and tossed the SQLAlchemy API around making most of my documentation deprecated before I could check it in. ;) Currently I can only show a cheat sheet at http://wiki.pylonshq.com/display/pylonsmisc/Pylons+Cheatsheet which is not quite suitable for beginners but up-to-date. And quite some time ago I contributed my http://wiki.pylonshq.com/display/pylonscookbook/Concepts+of+Pylons article which is technically less detailed but gives an overview of Pylons. So my current work is to create a profound article introducing newcomers to the general concepts of MVC and Pylons while creating an actual Pylons project (a bookmark manager) that deals with many areas like i18n, session cookies, AJAX, deployments, database models, templates, URL routing, form validation and best practices using paster shell and the online debugger. The working title is Beginning Pylons and it's currently maintained at http://workaround.org/cgi-bin/hg-beginning-pylons but it's in no way ready to be used. However I keep receiving feedback from people who want me to finish that article so as soon as I can show something I'll ask for feedback. Some time this year Apress is to release a Pylons book, too. AFAIK it will also be available as LGPL or something. So perhaps I'm creating redundant work - I don't know. Perhaps that slows down my efforts a little because I hate redundancy. Let's see what comes first. :) Cheers Christoph -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.workaround.org JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg key: 79CC6586 fingerprint: 9B26F48E6F2B0A3F7E33E6B7095E77C579CC6586 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Documentation for begginers
On Jan 28, 2008 12:53 AM, Christoph Haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Mike... On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 08:46:20PM -0800, Mikeroz wrote: I've just started to have some fun with pylons and I've got a question - what's wrong with the documentation? I mean - it's cool because it's there but there's almost no tutorials and stuff... is someone working on it? Or maybe someone could give us (begginers) some links to them? :) When I started playing with Pylons many moons ago I found myself in the same situation. And documentation was even worse back then. It's nice that the wiki contains documentation on many topics. I wonder if Mikeroz saw the Pylons Cookbook, which contains a few tutorials. http://wiki.pylonshq.com/display/pylonscookbook/Home QuickWiki and Flickr are in the official docs. http://wiki.pylonshq.com/display/pylonsdocs/ What exactly is missing? One thing that's missing, I think, is how to build a bigger app. What choices are available for the optional features and add-on packages, and how to choose whether to use them or not. So my current work is to create a profound article introducing newcomers to the general concepts of MVC and Pylons while creating an actual Pylons project (a bookmark manager) that deals with many areas like i18n, session cookies, AJAX, deployments, database models, templates, URL routing, form validation and best practices using paster shell and the online debugger. The working title is Beginning Pylons and it's currently maintained at http://workaround.org/cgi-bin/hg-beginning-pylons but it's in no way ready to be used. However I keep receiving feedback from people who want me to finish that article so as soon as I can show something I'll ask for feedback. That sounds wonderful. The official docs can't do an in-depth discussion of MVC and other background stuff, but something like this can. Some time this year Apress is to release a Pylons book, too. AFAIK it will also be available as LGPL or something. So perhaps I'm creating redundant work - I don't know. Perhaps that slows down my efforts a little because I hate redundancy. Let's see what comes first. :) The text will be online. But that's several months away. Ben's also planning an upgrade to the official docs. So you could coordinate with them to make sure it's not redundant. However, your bookmark app and different perspective will be worth reading in any case. -- Mike Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Documentation for begginers
About QuickWiki tutorial: in models, _init_.py file i've got: class Page(object): content = None def __str__(self): return self.title def get_wiki_content(self): content = publish_parts(self.content, writer_name=html) [html_body] titles = sets.Set(wikiwords.findall(content)) for title in titles: title_url = h.url_for(controller='page', action='index', title=title) content = content.replace(title, h.link_to(title, title_url)) return content mapper(Page, pages_table) and when I go with paster setup-app development.ini it shows error name Page is not definied. Where could I go wrong? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Documentation for begginers
On Jan 28, 2008, at 4:46 PM, Mikeroz wrote: About QuickWiki tutorial: in models, _init_.py file i've got: class Page(object): content = None def __str__(self): return self.title def get_wiki_content(self): content = publish_parts(self.content, writer_name=html) [html_body] titles = sets.Set(wikiwords.findall(content)) for title in titles: title_url = h.url_for(controller='page', action='index', title=title) content = content.replace(title, h.link_to(title, title_url)) return content mapper(Page, pages_table) and when I go with paster setup-app development.ini it shows error name Page is not definied. Where could I go wrong? Your mapper line seems to be indented incorrectly (it shouldn't be indented at all). Python most likely gave you its specific line number in the error message. -- Philip Jenvey --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Documentation for begginers
Hi everyone :) I've just started to have some fun with pylons and I've got a question - what's wrong with the documentation? I mean - it's cool because it's there but there's almost no tutorials and stuff... is someone working on it? Or maybe someone could give us (begginers) some links to them? :) Best wishes, Mike *mikeroz* Rozycki --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
