Re: simplejson install error, need help
Vista and extensions for simplejson and other libraries give me headaches all the time too. Anyway. I think the simplejson library was included in the python 2.6 under the name json. Creating quite a mess because there is already json in python.org/pypi, but different one. Probably the best would be conditional installation of simplejson only for python =2.5 (or is this dependency really necessary at all?) Tibor On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Rod Morison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm starting a new project and am trying to install Pylons 0.9.7 on a fresh install of Windows Vista/64 with Python 2.6. Easy install quits on an error installing simplejson. I see a thread on the subject ( http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss/browse_thread/thread/48d0a48a5ccc4a6e/22f12c08cf642b63?lnk=gstq=simplejson#22f12c08cf642b63 ) , but I don't see a workaround I can use. The top and bottom of my install output, with -v, is below. Any suggestions or help for a workaround is appreciated, I want to get started with this project! python ez_setup.py -v -f http://pylonshq.com/download/0.9.7 -U Pylons Searching for Pylons Reading http://pylonshq.com/download/0.9.7 Found link: http://pylonshq.com/download/0.9.7/Babel-0.9.3-py2.3.egg [cut] copying simplejson\tests\test_indent.py - build\lib.win-amd64-2.6\simplejson\tests copying simplejson\tests\test_pass1.py - build\lib.win-amd64-2.6\simplejson\tests copying simplejson\tests\test_pass2.py - build\lib.win-amd64-2.6\simplejson\tests copying simplejson\tests\test_pass3.py - build\lib.win-amd64-2.6\simplejson\tests copying simplejson\tests\test_recursion.py - build\lib.win-amd64-2.6\simplejson\tests copying simplejson\tests\test_scanstring.py - build\lib.win-amd64-2.6\simplejson\tests copying simplejson\tests\test_separators.py - build\lib.win-amd64-2.6\simplejson\tests copying simplejson\tests\test_unicode.py - build\lib.win-amd64-2.6\simplejson\tests copying simplejson\tests\__init__.py - build\lib.win-amd64-2.6\simplejson\tests running build_ext building 'simplejson._speedups' extension error: Setup script exited with error: None --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: simplejson install error, need help
Agreed on all counts. In _my_ case the problem was a setup bug when simplejson can't find the cl.exe compiler on windows (as posted here previously.) Tibor Arpas wrote: Vista and extensions for simplejson and other libraries give me headaches all the time too. Anyway. I think the simplejson library was included in the python 2.6 under the name json. Creating quite a mess because there is already json in python.org/pypi http://python.org/pypi, but different one. Probably the best would be conditional installation of simplejson only for python =2.5 (or is this dependency really necessary at all?) Tibor --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: simplejson install error, need help
If someone submits a patch to simplejson to resolve any of these stupid Windows issues, it will be accepted. I don't personally care for Windows so I don't test it there, the current state of Windows support in simplejson is the way it is because that's what was contributed to me. If someone spent the time to fix it to do better compiler detection and submitted the patch, then this problem would go away. On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Rod Morison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed on all counts. In _my_ case the problem was a setup bug when simplejson can't find the cl.exe compiler on windows (as posted here previously.) Tibor Arpas wrote: Vista and extensions for simplejson and other libraries give me headaches all the time too. Anyway. I think the simplejson library was included in the python 2.6 under the name json. Creating quite a mess because there is already json in python.org/pypi http://python.org/pypi, but different one. Probably the best would be conditional installation of simplejson only for python =2.5 (or is this dependency really necessary at all?) Tibor --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: simplejson install error, need help
I might try to tackle this once I get through some higher order business. No promises, though. Bob Ippolito wrote: If someone submits a patch to simplejson to resolve any of these stupid Windows issues, it will be accepted. I don't personally care for Windows so I don't test it there, the current state of Windows support in simplejson is the way it is because that's what was contributed to me. If someone spent the time to fix it to do better compiler detection and submitted the patch, then this problem would go away. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: simplejson install error, need help
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Tibor Arpas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vista and extensions for simplejson and other libraries give me headaches all the time too. Anyway. I think the simplejson library was included in the python 2.6 under the name json. Creating quite a mess because there is already json in python.org/pypi, but different one. Probably the best would be conditional installation of simplejson only for python =2.5 (or is this dependency really necessary at all?) Is it possible to limit a dependency to certain versions of Python? -- Mike Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: simplejson install error, need help
On Nov 25, 2008, at 12:43 PM, Mike Orr wrote: Is it possible to limit a dependency to certain versions of Python? It should be. Setup.py is just a Python file, I don't see why I can't test the Python version and toggle the dependencies. Any code in Pylons using simplejson will need a toggle to try to import the Python 2.6 one first of course. Also, I believe simplejson 2.0.4 has fixes and such that didn't make it for Python 2.6, which means one should be running the latest simplejson even in 2.6. What version made it into Python 2.6? Cheers, Ben smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: simplejson install error, need help
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Ben Bangert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 25, 2008, at 12:43 PM, Mike Orr wrote: Is it possible to limit a dependency to certain versions of Python? It should be. Setup.py is just a Python file, I don't see why I can't test the Python version and toggle the dependencies. Any code in Pylons using simplejson will need a toggle to try to import the Python 2.6 one first of course. Also, I believe simplejson 2.0.4 has fixes and such that didn't make it for Python 2.6, which means one should be running the latest simplejson even in 2.6. What version made it into Python 2.6? simplejson 1.9.x made it into python 2.6, with a few fixes. simplejson 2.x is a couple times faster for encoding and decoding, so it's not worth using the version that ships with 2.6 unless you have to. There is/was a patch in the queue for 2.6.1 but I think it's still waiting for review and probably won't make it (patch was submitted at least a month or two ago though, but it's out of my hands). -bob --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: simplejson install error, need help
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Bob Ippolito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Ben Bangert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 25, 2008, at 12:43 PM, Mike Orr wrote: Is it possible to limit a dependency to certain versions of Python? It should be. Setup.py is just a Python file, I don't see why I can't test the Python version and toggle the dependencies. Any code in Pylons using simplejson will need a toggle to try to import the Python 2.6 one first of course. Also, I believe simplejson 2.0.4 has fixes and such that didn't make it for Python 2.6, which means one should be running the latest simplejson even in 2.6. What version made it into Python 2.6? simplejson 1.9.x made it into python 2.6, with a few fixes. simplejson 2.x is a couple times faster for encoding and decoding, so it's not worth using the version that ships with 2.6 unless you have to. There is/was a patch in the queue for 2.6.1 but I think it's still waiting for review and probably won't make it (patch was submitted at least a month or two ago though, but it's out of my hands). Also note that the optimizations to the pure python version simplejson 2.x are often faster than 1.9.x with the speedups, so even if you can't build the extension it's probably better to use simplejson 2.x. simplejson 2.x with the speedups is on par or better than any of the other JSON encoders and decoders, and is even faster than cPickle on occasion. -bob --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: simplejson install error, need help
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Ben Bangert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 25, 2008, at 12:43 PM, Mike Orr wrote: Is it possible to limit a dependency to certain versions of Python? It should be. Setup.py is just a Python file, I don't see why I can't test the Python version and toggle the dependencies. Aren't the dependencies stored in the egg_info files and reparsed when you call pkg_resources.require()? Otherwise I don't see how it could do its cascade of dependency checking when you load the application egg, because setup.py isn't available at that point. -- Mike Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: simplejson install error, need help
Previously Mike Orr wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Ben Bangert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 25, 2008, at 12:43 PM, Mike Orr wrote: Is it possible to limit a dependency to certain versions of Python? It should be. Setup.py is just a Python file, I don't see why I can't test the Python version and toggle the dependencies. Aren't the dependencies stored in the egg_info files and reparsed when you call pkg_resources.require()? Otherwise I don't see how it could do its cascade of dependency checking when you load the application egg, because setup.py isn't available at that point. It works with source eggs since that python is run during dependency determination, and for binary eggs since those are python version-specific. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: simplejson install error, need help
On Nov 23, 2008, at 10:07 AM, Rod Morison wrote: I'm starting a new project and am trying to install Pylons 0.9.7 on a fresh install of Windows Vista/64 with Python 2.6. Easy install quits on an error installing simplejson. snip building 'simplejson._speedups' extension error: Setup script exited with error: None What version of setuptools/ez_setup was in use here? -- Philip Jenvey --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: simplejson install error, need help
setuptools-0.6c9-py2.6.egg Philip Jenvey wrote: On Nov 23, 2008, at 10:07 AM, Rod Morison wrote: I'm starting a new project and am trying to install Pylons 0.9.7 on a fresh install of Windows Vista/64 with Python 2.6. Easy install quits on an error installing simplejson. snip building 'simplejson._speedups' extension error: Setup script exited with error: None What version of setuptools/ez_setup was in use here? -- Philip Jenvey --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
simplejson install error, need help
I'm starting a new project and am trying to install Pylons 0.9.7 on a fresh install of Windows Vista/64 with Python 2.6. Easy install quits on an error installing simplejson. I see a thread on the subject (http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss/browse_thread/thread/48d0a48a5ccc4a6e/22f12c08cf642b63?lnk=gstq=simplejson#22f12c08cf642b63) , but I don't see a workaround I can use. The top and bottom of my install output, with -v, is below. Any suggestions or help for a workaround is appreciated, I want to get started with this project! python ez_setup.py -v -f http://pylonshq.com/download/0.9.7 -U Pylons Searching for Pylons Reading http://pylonshq.com/download/0.9.7 Found link: http://pylonshq.com/download/0.9.7/Babel-0.9.3-py2.3.egg [cut] copying simplejson\tests\test_indent.py - build\lib.win-amd64-2.6\simplejson\tests copying simplejson\tests\test_pass1.py - build\lib.win-amd64-2.6\simplejson\tests copying simplejson\tests\test_pass2.py - build\lib.win-amd64-2.6\simplejson\tests copying simplejson\tests\test_pass3.py - build\lib.win-amd64-2.6\simplejson\tests copying simplejson\tests\test_recursion.py - build\lib.win-amd64-2.6\simplejson\tests copying simplejson\tests\test_scanstring.py - build\lib.win-amd64-2.6\simplejson\tests copying simplejson\tests\test_separators.py - build\lib.win-amd64-2.6\simplejson\tests copying simplejson\tests\test_unicode.py - build\lib.win-amd64-2.6\simplejson\tests copying simplejson\tests\__init__.py - build\lib.win-amd64-2.6\simplejson\tests running build_ext building 'simplejson._speedups' extension error: Setup script exited with error: None --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: simplejson install error, need help
Hi, building 'simplejson._speedups' extension error: Setup script exited with error: None It failed to build speedups. The main point is that speedups are not required and you can avoid them. Try to follow this advice: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/python/python/635113#635113 I don't have Windows now so can't help you more. -- Dalius http://blog.sandbox.lt --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: simplejson install error, need help
Solved! (though with a wrinkle) I went ahead and installed Visual Studio 2008 and ran the easy install from a vs2008 shell (i.e., ran C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\Common7\Tools\vsvars32.bat in the shell before the easy install). simplejson _was_ able to install, I assume because it's setup could find the msft cl.exe compiler. The wrinkle is the compile actually failed because of a 32/64 bit conflict. Apparently, the simplejson setup dies if there is no compiler, but will correctly substitute the non-speedup, Plain-Python install if there is a compiler, and that compiler fails. Here's the top of my successful Pylons install (restarting where it left off with simplejson): C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\Common7\Tools\vsvars32.bat Setting environment for using Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 x86 tools. C:\Users\rodcd \ C:\python ez_setup.py -f http://pylonshq.com/download/0.9.7 -U Pylons Searching for Pylons Reading http://pylonshq.com/download/0.9.7 Reading http://pypi.python.org/simple/Pylons/ Reading http://www.pylonshq.com/ Reading http://pylons.groovie.org/ Best match: pylons 0.9.7rc3 Processing pylons-0.9.7rc3-py2.6.egg pylons 0.9.7rc3 is already the active version in easy-install.pth Using c:\python26\lib\site-packages\pylons-0.9.7rc3-py2.6.egg Reading http://www.pylonshq.com/download/0.9.7 Processing dependencies for Pylons Searching for simplejson=2.0.3 Reading http://pypi.python.org/simple/simplejson/ Reading http://undefined.org/python/#simplejson Best match: simplejson 2.0.5 Downloading http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/s/simplejson/simplejson-2.0.5 .tar.gz#md5=11e65b91e7fd08eda931e683c5f98543 Processing simplejson-2.0.5.tar.gz Running simplejson-2.0.5\setup.py -q bdist_egg --dist-dir c:\users\rod\appdata\l ocal\temp\easy_install-mgvah0\simplejson-2.0.5\egg-dist-tmp-vb_j4r _speedups.c simplejson/_speedups.c(1652) : warning C4028: formal parameter 1 different from declaration python26.lib(python26.dll) : fatal error LNK1112: module machine type 'x64' conf licts with target machine type 'X86' *** WARNING: The C extension could not be compiled, speedups are not enabled. Failure information, if any, is above. I'm retrying the build without the C extension now. *** *** WARNING: The C extension could not be compiled, speedups are not enabled. Plain-Python installation succeeded. *** Adding simplejson 2.0.5 to easy-install.pth file Installed c:\python26\lib\site-packages\simplejson-2.0.5-py2.6.egg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups pylons-discuss group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
