[PyMOL] PyMol Connectivity Data

2010-08-05 Thread Martin Hediger
Dear all
I am confused about the requirement of providing connectivity data in a 
pdb file to properly render a protein with PyMol.
Right now, I am displaying a pdb file not containing any connectivity 
data but still the protein seems perfectly valid.

My question is: how does PyMol know how to properly display structures 
when no connectivity is provided (i understand this usually is at the 
end of the file in the 'CONECT...' section. Can it determine 
connectivity from the atom-labels, like the residue and the 
atom-descriptor (e.g ATOM   5   CB  VAL A 1 ...)?
Related to this: I'm not a specialist in protein dynamics, but i 
understand, every reasonable force field (AMBER, CHARMM, ...) will 
require me to provide connectivity, correct? The point is, i see the 
protein displayed correctly in PyMol, but there is no connectivity in 
the PDB file. Does this mean the force field computation will also work?

Thanks for a statement
Martin

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Re: [PyMOL] PyMol Connectivity Data

2010-08-05 Thread Robert Campbell
Dear Martin,

On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:44:45 +0200 Martin Hediger ma@bluewin.ch wrote:

 I am confused about the requirement of providing connectivity data in a 
 pdb file to properly render a protein with PyMol.
 Right now, I am displaying a pdb file not containing any connectivity 
 data but still the protein seems perfectly valid.
 
 My question is: how does PyMol know how to properly display structures 
 when no connectivity is provided (i understand this usually is at the 
 end of the file in the 'CONECT...' section. Can it determine 
 connectivity from the atom-labels, like the residue and the 
 atom-descriptor (e.g ATOM   5   CB  VAL A 1 ...)?
 Related to this: I'm not a specialist in protein dynamics, but i 
 understand, every reasonable force field (AMBER, CHARMM, ...) will 
 require me to provide connectivity, correct? The point is, i see the 
 protein displayed correctly in PyMol, but there is no connectivity in 
 the PDB file. Does this mean the force field computation will also work?

PyMOL simply draws bonds where atoms are close enough (defined by the sum of
their vdw radii) or where there are explicit CONECT records.  CONECT records
are only needed where bond lengths are longer than expected.

Molecular dynamics programs require explicit topology (bond lengths, angles,
dihedral angles, chirality), because they are doing much more than simply
making pretty pictures.  So no, a force field computation will not work
simply because PyMOL can draw the bonds you expect to see.

Cheers,
Rob
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Re: [PyMOL] Fetch Command

2010-08-05 Thread Jason Vertrees
Greetings,

Fetch has been fixed and the code checked into SVN with some other
changes.  I'm calling this v1.3r1 because 'fetch' is so integral to
PyMOL.

For Incentive PyMOL subscribers, the new v1.3r1 builds will be
available before the weekend.

As usual please report any problems.

Cheers,

-- Jason

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Jason Vertrees
jason.vertr...@schrodinger.com wrote:
 Hi Daphna,

 The PDB servers underwent some reorganization and moved the files on
 us!  I will post a fix for this by tomorrow night.

 Thanks!

 -- Jason

 On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Daphna Meroz daphname...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Sir/Madam,

 I am using MacPymol version 1.2r1. For some reason, the fetch pdb command 
 does not work anymore (the error message is unable to load pdb).
 Is there some way to resolve this?

 Thank you,
 Daphna Meroz
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