[PyMOL] Selecting ASP and GLU

2011-03-01 Thread Martin Hediger

Dear all
What is the selection syntax to select all GLU and ASP residues within 
an object?


I'm trying it the way its written on the wiki:

remove resn hoh# remove water
h_add  # add hydrogens

as surface
color grey90

color slate, resn lys   # lysines in light blue
color paleyellow, resn cys  # cysteines in light yellow
*color tv_red, (resn asp or(resn glu))  # aspartic and glutamic acid in light 
red*

but, the selection kind of does not work for me (I'm assuming the 
operator for the logical AND is 'and').

What is it that I need to do differently?

Kind regards
Martin
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Re: [PyMOL] Selecting ASP and GLU

2011-03-01 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Martin,

The wiki way should work. The only thing I can think of is that you're
not doing what you think you're doing :S
Did you copy paste the commands from the wiki? Did you get an error?
What version are you using?

 but, the selection kind of does not work for me (I'm assuming the operator
 for the logical AND is 'and').

That's correct, 'and' gives the intersection.

 What is it that I need to do differently?

Can you provide an example that works using fetch and such? Just a
simple script we can try.

Cheers,

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Re: [PyMOL] Selecting ASP and GLU

2011-03-01 Thread David Rodríguez
Hi Martin,

Try the following:

color tv_red, resn asp+glu
or
color tv_red, resn asp or resn glu

Cheers,

2011/3/1 Martin Hediger ma@bluewin.ch

  Dear all
 What is the selection syntax to select all GLU and ASP residues within an
 object?

 I'm trying it the way its written on the wiki:

 remove resn hoh# remove water
 h_add  # add hydrogens

 as surface
 color grey90

 color slate, resn lys   # lysines in light blue
 color paleyellow, resn cys  # cysteines in light yellow*color tv_red, (resn 
 asp or(resn glu))  # aspartic and glutamic acid in light red*

 but, the selection kind of does not work for me (I'm assuming the operator
 for the logical AND is 'and').
 What is it that I need to do differently?

 Kind regards
 Martin


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Re: [PyMOL] Selecting ASP and GLU

2011-03-01 Thread Sampson, Jared
Hi Martin -

** Short answer:

Use `resn asp+glu` (although your original command actually works for me).

** Not-so-short answer, with a bonus question about comment syntax:

The Asp/Glu line of your script can be condensed slightly using a plus sign, 
but the original syntax of that line actually works fine for me (PyMOL v.1.3, 
Fink/X11 build on Mac OS 10.6.6).  However, for me, the lines to remove waters 
and add hydrogens fail.

To elaborate, I've found that, with certain commands (but oddly not all of them 
-- for example, the `color` statements in your original script handle this just 
fine), adding a comment on the same line returns a Malformed selection error. 
 I don't know if this is by design or an unintended feature.  I would expect 
these comments to be handled the same way as in Python code, but for whatever 
reason, they are not.

(Query for the developers: Is there a specific reason some PyMOL functions 
attempt to include the hash mark and comment in the selection, rather than 
ignoring everything after the #?  Perhaps it has something to do with the 
number of arguments--both the commands below that fail with an inline comment 
take only a single selection argument.)

If you really want to keep the comment on the same line, add a semicolon 
between the command and the comment.  The other option, of course, is to place 
the comment on the previous line.

Also, you can use `remove solvent` to cover all the different ways of 
describing water (HOH, WAT, H2O).

Try this:

# remove water
remove solvent;  # or put the comment on the same 
line after a semicolon

# add hydrogens
h_add;   # this one also requires a 
semicolon

# basic view
as surface
color grey90

# color lys blue, cys yellow, asp/glu red
color slate, resn lys# comments here seem to work 
without the semicolon
color paleyellow, resn cys
color tv_red, resn asp+glu

Hope that helps,
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On Mar 1, 2011, at 7:44 AM, Martin Hediger wrote:

Dear all
What is the selection syntax to select all GLU and ASP residues within an 
object?

I'm trying it the way its written on the wiki:

remove resn hoh# remove water
h_add  # add hydrogens

as surface
color grey90

color slate, resn lys   # lysines in light blue
color paleyellow, resn cys  # cysteines in light yellow
color tv_red, (resn asp or(resn glu))  # aspartic and glutamic acid in light red



but, the selection kind of does not work for me (I'm assuming the operator for 
the logical AND is 'and').
What is it that I need to do differently?

Kind regards
Martin
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Re: [PyMOL] Selecting ASP and GLU

2011-03-01 Thread Jason Vertrees
Hi Martin,

To select all ASPs and GLUs just type,

select resn GLU+ASP

or

select resn GLU or resn ASP

or, if you need parentheses,

select ((resn GLU) or (resn ASP))


Maybe this will help:

# fetch a test protein

fetch 1rsy, async=0

# color all ASPs and GLUs red

color tv_red, (resn ASP or resn GLU)


While the boolean 'and' works, the following will fail to select and
color any atoms:

color tv_red, (resn ASP and resn GLU)

because there will be no _single atom_ in both an ASP and a GLU.  The
boolean 'and' in (resn ASP and resn GLU) requests an atom that is in
any ASP _and_ in any GLU--which is impossible.

Cheers,

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On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Martin Hediger ma@bluewin.ch wrote:
 Dear all
 What is the selection syntax to select all GLU and ASP residues within an
 object?

 I'm trying it the way its written on the wiki:

 remove resn hoh# remove water
 h_add  # add hydrogens

 as surface
 color grey90

 color slate, resn lys   # lysines in light blue
 color paleyellow, resn cys  # cysteines in light yellow
 color tv_red, (resn asp or(resn glu))  # aspartic and glutamic acid in light
 red

 but, the selection kind of does not work for me (I'm assuming the operator
 for the logical AND is 'and').
 What is it that I need to do differently?

 Kind regards
 Martin

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Re: [PyMOL] Selecting ASP and GLU

2011-03-01 Thread Robert Campbell
Hi Martin,

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:44:36 +0100 Martin Hediger ma@bluewin.ch wrote:

 Dear all
 What is the selection syntax to select all GLU and ASP residues within 
 an object?
 
 I'm trying it the way its written on the wiki:
 
 remove resn hoh# remove water
 h_add  # add hydrogens
 
 as surface
 color grey90
 
 color slate, resn lys   # lysines in light blue
 color paleyellow, resn cys  # cysteines in light yellow
 *color tv_red, (resn asp or(resn glu))  # aspartic and glutamic acid in light 
 red*

The easier way to write that is:

 color tv_red, resn asp+glu

You can string several sorts of selections together that way, for example:

select actsite, resi 105+262+286

select aliphatic, resn ala+val+leu+ile

Cheers,
Rob

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