Re: [PyMOL] Pymol: Cartoon representation for .pdb file with multible entries

2011-10-27 Thread Alexander Schulz
Hi Robert,

this solves exactly my problem and gives me the pictures I wanted.

Thank you very much for the quick answer!

Cheers,
Alexander

Am Mittwoch, den 26.10.2011, 09:48 -0400 schrieb Robert Campbell:
 Hi Alexander,
 
 On Wed, 2011-10-26 12:53  EDT,  Alexander Schulz
 sch...@dwi.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
 
  Hi Thomas,
  
  thank you very much for the answer, I'm beginning to understand the
  actual problem now. 
  
  dss state=1 
  helps, but it changes the problem: I would like to see the secondary
  structure that corresponds to the single snapshot. When I use dss
  state=1, I just see the secondary structure of the first snapshot in all
  snapshots. 
  
  Is there a way to calculate the secondary structure for each individual
  snapshot stored in this single .pdb file?
 
 Yes, simply load the pdb file with the discrete=1 flag:
 
 load md_file.pdb, discrete=1
 dss md_file
 
 Setting the discrete flag causes PyMOL to store more information
 (B-factors, secondary structure) with each atom of each state -- so it can
 also be noticeably slower to load and uses more memory.
 
 Cheers,
 Rob
 



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Re: [PyMOL] Pymol: Cartoon representation for .pdb file with multible entries

2011-10-26 Thread Thomas Holder
Hi Alexander,

by default PyMOL recognized secondary structure as the minimum consensus 
over all states. So if a residue is not recognized as helix or sheet in 
_all_ states, it will be assigned as loop. You might be happy with this:

# type after loading the file
dss state=1

For detailed explanation what values are valid for the state argument 
see the PyMOLWiki page:
http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Dss

Cheers,
   Thomas

On 10/26/2011 11:04 AM, Alexander Schulz wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I'm quite new to Pymol and I hope that I don't ask something that has
 been answered several times before, but I didn't find anything about
 this topic that could solve my problem.

 I've prepared a .pdb file containing one protein at different times in
 the simulation. I'd like to prepare a video from this file, which is why
 I'd like to keep everything in one .pdb file.

 When I select cartoon as a representation, the backbone is visualized
 as a tibe (as always), but no secondary strucutres are recognized. When
 I copy one of the snaphots out of the .pdb and open in seperately, the
 secondary structure is shown correctly.

 How can I make Pymol show the structure of the multible states in one
 file correctly?

 Thanks in advance for answers!

 Cheers,
 Alexander

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Re: [PyMOL] Pymol: Cartoon representation for .pdb file with multible entries

2011-10-26 Thread Alexander Schulz
Hi Thomas,

thank you very much for the answer, I'm beginning to understand the
actual problem now. 

dss state=1 
helps, but it changes the problem: I would like to see the secondary
structure that corresponds to the single snapshot. When I use dss
state=1, I just see the secondary structure of the first snapshot in all
snapshots. 

Is there a way to calculate the secondary structure for each individual
snapshot stored in this single .pdb file?

Cheers,
Alexander

Am Mittwoch, den 26.10.2011, 12:18 +0200 schrieb Thomas Holder:
 Hi Alexander,
 
 by default PyMOL recognized secondary structure as the minimum consensus 
 over all states. So if a residue is not recognized as helix or sheet in 
 _all_ states, it will be assigned as loop. You might be happy with this:
 
 # type after loading the file
 dss state=1
 
 For detailed explanation what values are valid for the state argument 
 see the PyMOLWiki page:
 http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Dss
 
 Cheers,
Thomas
 
 On 10/26/2011 11:04 AM, Alexander Schulz wrote:
  Hi everyone,
 
  I'm quite new to Pymol and I hope that I don't ask something that has
  been answered several times before, but I didn't find anything about
  this topic that could solve my problem.
 
  I've prepared a .pdb file containing one protein at different times in
  the simulation. I'd like to prepare a video from this file, which is why
  I'd like to keep everything in one .pdb file.
 
  When I select cartoon as a representation, the backbone is visualized
  as a tibe (as always), but no secondary strucutres are recognized. When
  I copy one of the snaphots out of the .pdb and open in seperately, the
  secondary structure is shown correctly.
 
  How can I make Pymol show the structure of the multible states in one
  file correctly?
 
  Thanks in advance for answers!
 
  Cheers,
  Alexander
 



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Re: [PyMOL] Pymol: Cartoon representation for .pdb file with multible entries

2011-10-26 Thread Robert Campbell
Hi Alexander,

On Wed, 2011-10-26 12:53  EDT,  Alexander Schulz
sch...@dwi.rwth-aachen.de wrote:

 Hi Thomas,
 
 thank you very much for the answer, I'm beginning to understand the
 actual problem now. 
 
 dss state=1 
 helps, but it changes the problem: I would like to see the secondary
 structure that corresponds to the single snapshot. When I use dss
 state=1, I just see the secondary structure of the first snapshot in all
 snapshots. 
 
 Is there a way to calculate the secondary structure for each individual
 snapshot stored in this single .pdb file?

Yes, simply load the pdb file with the discrete=1 flag:

load md_file.pdb, discrete=1
dss md_file

Setting the discrete flag causes PyMOL to store more information
(B-factors, secondary structure) with each atom of each state -- so it can
also be noticeably slower to load and uses more memory.

Cheers,
Rob

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