Re: [PyMOL] low-end graphics cards/laptops

2007-06-16 Thread DeLano Scientific
David,
 
As long as you run Windows XP and not Vista, most modern shared-memory GPU
systems should have sufficient performance for PyMOL. 
 
If you're thinking of new systems, it is no secret that I unabashedly favor
and recommend the Windows--Linux-capable PC laptops made by that
consumer-products company based out of Cupertino.  
 
The GMA950 is a fine mid-range solution -- but be sure to upgrade to 2 GB of
RAM so that you can dedicate 1G to virtualized operating system instances.
 
Cheers,
Warren
 


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Horita
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Subject: [PyMOL] low-end graphics cards/laptops


Hi,
While I've seen a number of examples of good graphics cards to use with
Pymol, I'd like some feedback on what an acceptable low-end is for a Windows
laptop computer.  Specifically, is the Intel GMA950 completely useless or
just not very good.  Likewise, does the X3100 help (this seems to be weak on
driver support)?  
 
My current system uses an ATI Mobility Radeon 9200, which is a few years old
and not a high-end gaming/workstation card, but lets me spin a molecular
cartoon or surface of a ~300 residue protein without any problems (if the
950 or X3100 equal this level, I'll be satisfied).  Many of the current crop
of 5 lb notebooks use integrated graphics for price and battery life.  If
these units don't provide sufficient graphics power for Pymol/VMD/Deepview,
the useful market shrinks substantially.
 
Thanks,
David
 
 
- 
David A. Horita, Ph.D.
Department of Biochemistry
Wake Forest University School of Medicine
Winston-Salem, NC 27157-1016 
Tel: 336 713-4194
Fax: 336 716-7671 
email:  dhor...@wfubmc.edu
web:  http://www1.wfubmc.edu/biochem/faculty/Horita.htm
http://www1.wfubmc.edu/biochem/faculty/Horita.htm/ 
 



[PyMOL] low-end graphics cards/laptops

2007-06-14 Thread David A. Horita
Hi,
While I've seen a number of examples of good graphics cards to use with
Pymol, I'd like some feedback on what an acceptable low-end is for a
Windows laptop computer.  Specifically, is the Intel GMA950 completely
useless or just not very good.  Likewise, does the X3100 help (this
seems to be weak on driver support)?  
 
My current system uses an ATI Mobility Radeon 9200, which is a few years
old and not a high-end gaming/workstation card, but lets me spin a
molecular cartoon or surface of a ~300 residue protein without any
problems (if the 950 or X3100 equal this level, I'll be satisfied).
Many of the current crop of 5 lb notebooks use integrated graphics for
price and battery life.  If these units don't provide sufficient
graphics power for Pymol/VMD/Deepview, the useful market shrinks
substantially.
 
Thanks,
David
 
 
- 
David A. Horita, Ph.D.
Department of Biochemistry
Wake Forest University School of Medicine
Winston-Salem, NC 27157-1016 
Tel: 336 713-4194
Fax: 336 716-7671 
email:  dhor...@wfubmc.edu
web:  http://www1.wfubmc.edu/biochem/faculty/Horita.htm
http://www1.wfubmc.edu/biochem/faculty/Horita.htm/ 
 


Re: [PyMOL] low-end graphics cards/laptops

2007-06-14 Thread Robert Campbell
Hi David,

* David A.  Horita dhor...@wfubmc.edu [2007-06-14 11:52] wrote:
 Hi,
 While I've seen a number of examples of good graphics cards to use with
 Pymol, I'd like some feedback on what an acceptable low-end is for a
 Windows laptop computer.  Specifically, is the Intel GMA950 completely
 useless or just not very good.  Likewise, does the X3100 help (this
 seems to be weak on driver support)?  
  
 My current system uses an ATI Mobility Radeon 9200, which is a few years
 old and not a high-end gaming/workstation card, but lets me spin a
 molecular cartoon or surface of a ~300 residue protein without any
 problems (if the 950 or X3100 equal this level, I'll be satisfied).
 Many of the current crop of 5 lb notebooks use integrated graphics for
 price and battery life.  If these units don't provide sufficient
 graphics power for Pymol/VMD/Deepview, the useful market shrinks
 substantially.

I use a Lenovo (IBM) Thinkpad T43 with the ATI X300. I use Linux
(Debian) only on this laptop and with the fglrx ATI driver it certainly
gives acceptable performance. I can spin a 300-residue protein drawn in
surface mode easily enough. It seems to be only a little slower than my
desktop, which has a ATI 9500 Pro.

I don't recall trying it on this laptop before I blew Windows off the
disk, but I'd expect you'd get at least as good performance with Windows
as Linux.

The Thinkpads are nice small laptops.

Cheers,
Rob
-- 
Robert L. Campbell, Ph.D.
Senior Research Associate/Adjunct Assistant Professor 
Botterell Hall Rm 644
Department of Biochemistry, Queen's University, 
Kingston, ON K7L 3N6  Canada
Tel: 613-533-6821Fax: 613-533-2497
robert.campb...@queensu.cahttp://pldserver1.biochem.queensu.ca/~rlc