Re: [pypy-dev] Feedback on pypy.org website revamp
Would it be a good idea to include a brief list of suggested applications for PyPy (web services, et al?) Also, a current practice in new software is to offer a docker image as a “batteries included”/“try it without polluting user env” base image (alpine and ubuntu usually) - that may be something to consider. Ben > On Feb 8, 2019, at 7:39 AM, Phyo Arkar wrote: > > - old logo is better > - looks really great on mobile too. > - color theme looks too facebookish > - overalk huge thumbs up > > >> On Fri, Feb 8, 2019, 7:56 PM Antonio Cuni wrote: >> I agree, I like the old logo better. >> >>> On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 2:15 PM Ronan Lamy wrote: >>> Do we really need a new logo? The old one has been our identity for years >>> and was more distinctive. >>> >>> Apart from that, I think this is an improvement. >>> >>> Le ven. 8 févr. 2019 à 11:18, Maciej Fijalkowski a écrit : Hi everyone We are looking to redesign the main pypy website, how do people feel about the new quick look: https://baroquesoftware.com/pypy-website/web/ Best, Maciej Fijalkowski ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>> ___ >>> pypy-dev mailing list >>> pypy-dev@python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >> ___ >> pypy-dev mailing list >> pypy-dev@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev > ___ > pypy-dev mailing list > pypy-dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
Re: [pypy-dev] Feedback on pypy.org website revamp
On Fri, Feb 8, 2019, 04:40 Steven D'Aprano On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 11:17:43AM +0100, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: > > Hi everyone > > > > We are looking to redesign the main pypy website, how do people feel > > about the new quick look: > > > > https://baroquesoftware.com/pypy-website/web/ > > The bar chart seems to be missing bars for CPython. While the legend > shows grey for CPython the chart itself only shows blue PyPy bars. > The grey is referring to the straight line at "1.0". Depending on how you're generating the graph this might be tricky, but often these kinds of graphs are more readable if you get rid of the legend and instead label the items directly. Like put the word "CPython" directly on top of the grey line, and then put "PyPy" next to the bars down below. -n ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
Re: [pypy-dev] Feedback on pypy.org website revamp
- old logo is better - looks really great on mobile too. - color theme looks too facebookish - overalk huge thumbs up On Fri, Feb 8, 2019, 7:56 PM Antonio Cuni wrote: > I agree, I like the old logo better. > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 2:15 PM Ronan Lamy wrote: > >> Do we really need a new logo? The old one has been our identity for years >> and was more distinctive. >> >> Apart from that, I think this is an improvement. >> >> >> Le ven. 8 févr. 2019 à 11:18, Maciej Fijalkowski a >> écrit : >> >>> Hi everyone >>> >>> We are looking to redesign the main pypy website, how do people feel >>> about the new quick look: >>> >>> https://baroquesoftware.com/pypy-website/web/ >>> >>> Best, >>> Maciej Fijalkowski >>> ___ >>> pypy-dev mailing list >>> pypy-dev@python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>> >> ___ >> pypy-dev mailing list >> pypy-dev@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >> > ___ > pypy-dev mailing list > pypy-dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev > ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
Re: [pypy-dev] Feedback on pypy.org website revamp
I agree, I like the old logo better. On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 2:15 PM Ronan Lamy wrote: > Do we really need a new logo? The old one has been our identity for years > and was more distinctive. > > Apart from that, I think this is an improvement. > > > Le ven. 8 févr. 2019 à 11:18, Maciej Fijalkowski a > écrit : > >> Hi everyone >> >> We are looking to redesign the main pypy website, how do people feel >> about the new quick look: >> >> https://baroquesoftware.com/pypy-website/web/ >> >> Best, >> Maciej Fijalkowski >> ___ >> pypy-dev mailing list >> pypy-dev@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >> > ___ > pypy-dev mailing list > pypy-dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev > ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
Re: [pypy-dev] Feedback on pypy.org website revamp
Do we really need a new logo? The old one has been our identity for years and was more distinctive. Apart from that, I think this is an improvement. Le ven. 8 févr. 2019 à 11:18, Maciej Fijalkowski a écrit : > Hi everyone > > We are looking to redesign the main pypy website, how do people feel > about the new quick look: > > https://baroquesoftware.com/pypy-website/web/ > > Best, > Maciej Fijalkowski > ___ > pypy-dev mailing list > pypy-dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev > ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
Re: [pypy-dev] Feedback on pypy.org website revamp
I hope the middle button being blue is just an example. Otherwise it is confusing. Jacob fredag 8 februari 2019 kl. 11:17:43 CET skrev Maciej Fijalkowski: > Hi everyone > > We are looking to redesign the main pypy website, how do people feel > about the new quick look: > > https://baroquesoftware.com/pypy-website/web/ > > Best, > Maciej Fijalkowski > ___ > pypy-dev mailing list > pypy-dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
Re: [pypy-dev] Feedback on pypy.org website revamp
On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 11:17:43AM +0100, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote:
> Hi everyone
>
> We are looking to redesign the main pypy website, how do people feel
> about the new quick look:
>
> https://baroquesoftware.com/pypy-website/web/
The bar chart seems to be missing bars for CPython. While the legend
shows grey for CPython the chart itself only shows blue PyPy bars.
The text is much too low-contrast. Please don't use pale grey text on a
white background, that is very difficult to read, especially for those
of us who are no longer 16 with perfect 20:20 vision.
If I'm reading the CSS properly, the page uses #a8b1b6 for the "muted"
text ("PyPy trunk (with JIT) benchmark times...") -- that might as well
be invisible. Actually, being invisible would be better for me, because
then I wouldn't be straining my eyes trying to read it.
The regular text seems to use #606c76 which I can read in small
quantities, but not comfortably. It would be difficult to read large
quantities of such grey text. (Although it does look nice when bolded,
the extra weight makes a big difference.)
https://www.contrastrebellion.com/
I don't know why the PyPy logo is shown in grey at the bottom of the
page. For thirty years we've been educating users that grey is used for
disabled or inactive elements, or text of lesser importance. I'm not
saying make the logo screaming fluorescent green, but it shouldn't look
like an inactive control. It should use the same blues as the main logo,
just smaller.
I especially like that there are no menus that pop out and annoy me
every time I happen to mouse over parts of the page.
The overall design seems nice and clean and not too "busy", which makes
me happy. Fix the graph and increase the text contrast a bit and I'll
like it a lot.
Thank you.
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Steven
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Re: [pypy-dev] Feedback on pypy.org website revamp
Looks totally hot, only please add a bit more padding between the top navigation bar and browser window edge :) Also maybe add more pythonic details to the bigger version of the logo? a tongue, eyes? Not sure if you want to consciously divorce from the not so subtle reference there was in the past... On Fri, 8 Feb 2019, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: Hi everyone We are looking to redesign the main pypy website, how do people feel about the new quick look: https://baroquesoftware.com/pypy-website/web/ Best, Maciej Fijalkowski ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev -- Sincerely yours, Yury V. Zaytsev ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
Re: [pypy-dev] Feedback on pypy.org website revamp
Feedback from Nathaniel, so he does not have to write it: Imagining a skeptical viewer, the two questions that jump to mind: (1) "what, python 2.7.2? what kind of cooked benchmarks are these", (2) "yeah sure twisted, whatever, they still can't handle the C API or python 3" On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 11:17 AM Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: > > Hi everyone > > We are looking to redesign the main pypy website, how do people feel > about the new quick look: > > https://baroquesoftware.com/pypy-website/web/ > > Best, > Maciej Fijalkowski ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
[pypy-dev] Feedback on pypy.org website revamp
Hi everyone We are looking to redesign the main pypy website, how do people feel about the new quick look: https://baroquesoftware.com/pypy-website/web/ Best, Maciej Fijalkowski ___ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
